Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
Most of us are > much luckier than we realize. Yes. My brother-in-law's grandparents lived on the "wrong" side of the Berlin wall. Their Christmas gift to him one year was a carefully hoarded walnut. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
On 2/1/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our son recently marrried a beautiful young woman from the Ukraine. He > visited to meet her family and ask for her hand. The pictures were amazing. > Her family are rather prosperous dairy farmers. Her brother is in > veterinary school. Their farm seemed very rustic to us, and there' > certainly nothing very fancy here. > How well you lived depended greatly on your affiliation to the communist party. Many Russians moved into the Ukraine and took over the big farms. They were taken from the Ukrainians that survived the mass starvation inflicted by the Russians in 1932-33. This genocide resutled in the deaths of 7 million Ukrainians, that is more than two times as many people that died in the Holocust. They came and took all the crops in an effort to quiet the masses. I went with my to the Ukraine with my parents in '94 after the break up of the soviet union. It was the first time they could safely go back. Some of thier friends that went back as late as 70's and 80's 'disappeared'. The Russians kept their 'black lists' for many years. My mom's friend who went back to the Ukraine after her slave labor at the end of WWII disappeared. My mom missed the train, thank God, and stayed in Austria. My dad went AWOL from the Russian army in austria at the end of the war and was definately on the black list. When we visited my parents families, they still had wells and outhouses-no indoor plumbing. They cut their hay for thier one milk cow with a sickle and stacked it to dry. They had electricity but no refrigerator. The store shelves were still very bare two years after the breakup. The soviets took anything they could and threw perishables into the river. When I showed up at the hospital with antibiotics and eyedrops, I was treated like royalty. I literaly brought more with me than what they had available. Most of us are much luckier than we realize. -- Anna Southern Ohio
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
On Feb 1, 2008 10:03 AM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >He > visited to meet her family and ask for her hand. The pictures were amazing. That sounds so romantic! I've often thought it would be nice to visit the Ukraine. V
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
>> > I thank >> God daily that they had the courage to come here so that my 4 sisters >> and I had opportunities that we would have never had in the Ukraine. Our son recently marrried a beautiful young woman from the Ukraine. He visited to meet her family and ask for her hand. The pictures were amazing. Her family are rather prosperous dairy farmers. Her brother is in veterinary school. Their farm seemed very rustic to us, and there' certainly nothing very fancy here. They returned for Christmas this year, but since they make their home in New Jersey, we haven't seen pictures. Nancy
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On Jan 31, 2008 10:19 PM, Anna Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 31, 2008 7:53 PM, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > I thank > God daily that they had the courage to come here so that my 4 sisters > and I had opportunities that we would have never had in the Ukraine. > My grandfather came here because of a war in Ukraine but my grandmother was born in Canada--they had a rough life living in a one room house with no indoor plumbing. My Mother and her sister and brothers were born in Yorkton, Sask. My Mother moved to Toronto when she was 18, met and married my dad who was from Nova Scotia and our family lived in Toronto till I was 16, then we moved East. Because of distance I've gotten out of touch with many of relatives out West and never had the opportunity to observe Ukrainian customs. I feel I lost part of who I am. V
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On Jan 31, 2008 7:53 PM, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I have relatives in Yorkton, Canora and Regina. (I'm 1/2 Ukrainian on > my mothers side) > V > No wonder I feel a kinship to you! I am 1st generation Ukrainian. My parents immigrated here in the 1950's as indentured servents after being torn from their families during WWII. My mother was 18 and was made to work at an Austrian farm as slave labor. My dad was 'recruited' by the Russian army, shortly after that his younger brother was recruited by the German army. They came here with the clothes on their back and one dollar, neither spoke english. I thank God daily that they had the courage to come here so that my 4 sisters and I had opportunities that we would have never had in the Ukraine. -- Anna Southern Ohio
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
On 31/01/2008, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have relatives in Yorkton, Canora and Regina. (I'm 1/2 Ukrainian on > my mothers side) > V Ah...that explains Yorkton and Canora. I was born and raised in Wynyard, which is an Icelandic/Ukrainian town...and is just down the road from Yorkton and Canora. Wanda who is going to Regina tomorrow...
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On Jan 31, 2008 5:00 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 31/01/2008, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (My uncle who lives in Saskatchewan sent me this) > > Where in Saskatchewan??? I have relatives in Yorkton, Canora and Regina. (I'm 1/2 Ukrainian on my mothers side) V
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OMG!! Hilarious! Bill had to park at the end of our 800' driveway last night when he got home from work (not the first time this winter), walk through the snow drifts to the house to get the snow blower to cut a path. I have to take the puppies to the vet for health certificates tomorrow he's scheduling work off to be here to make sure I can get out and back in an hour later! I just sent it on to him, I'm sure he'll identify! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
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On Jan 31, 2008 4:00 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where in Saskatchewan??? I read that as where *is* saskatchewan. ;) Steph -- "Brutality begins where skill ends." "Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels." Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
On 31/01/2008, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (My uncle who lives in Saskatchewan sent me this) Where in Saskatchewan??? -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada
