Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-25 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:09:16AM -0600, Robyn Schulze wrote:
>   stjarni
> > is the only horse i've seen in this area doing anything like soft
> > lateral gaits (at any of the barns i've ridden at, at shows, at the
> > beach, on the trails -- several hundred horses).
> 
> I must say, I find this completely bizarre. What's with you New
> Englanders?  Who wants to be pounded in the butt everytime they want
> an intermediate gait? I'm glad you got smart Vicka.

*laughs* as a total convert, i gotta say i'm finding it a bit bizarre 
myself.  i ride stjarni almost exclusively, but i recently got on a
few different three-gaited horses that my students were considering
leasing (both qh-type paints) and found myself going, "but where's the
tolt?  and why isn't there any mane?  and why am i so far off the
ground?" :)  and i haven't even had stjarni a year yet!  (though my 
previous usual mounts were a 12.3 pinto and a 14.2 appaloosa, so i 
was already unused to being very far up :)

(i confess i did like the quarab one of my students had already chosen
for himself, with one of those long-suspended trotsbut i wouldn't
swap stjarni with him for longer than a few miles on a trail ;)

incidentally i owe roo grubis for this conversion -- she gave me one
lesson three years ago on the arabian i was leasing at the time (i had
just returned to riding), and at the end she said "you know, a lot of
peope come into icelandics from arabians; all the brains without the
teleport gene."  a few weeks later she and her icey moved to vermont,
and i didn't lay eyes on her again or meet her horse at all until the 
recent clinic.  strange world. 

oh -- and speaking of vermont, i should mention the vermont icelandic
horse farm, where i did ride a mare named litfrida twice in a weekend,
and which is (obviously) also in new england.  i've just been there once
(it's not close as new englanders count close :) but i'm sure they have
introduced many people to the breed; as far as i can tell it just has
not become very widespread.

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-21 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:26:29PM -0300, Virginia Tupper wrote:
> Awesome!

thanks -- i love my job :)

--vicka (who just found out she can't enter "novice" classes at the
 icey show, b/c having taught with stjarni i'm "professional")


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-21 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 6/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> right now, i maintain computers for the bioinformatics research network
> (brain imaging) and am conducting a study of how people talk in
> psychotherapy with vs without the use of psychoactive medications.
> previously i worked with correct and incorrect subliminal cuing's
> effects on visual recognition (naming) tasks (with colleagues at mit)
> and ported the "freesurfer" mri analysis package to osx and 64-bit
> architectures.  (i've been here three-and-a-half years.)  in short, i'm
> a brain scientist with a knack for computers and special interest (it
> was my minor in grad school) in linguistics, and particularly enjoy
> research into brain function involving language (my dissertation was on
> the electrophysiological differences between nouns and verbs).  i also
> occasionally supervise grad students or postdocs; i think steven pinker
> (a professor here) assigns either one of my papers or something that
> references one of my papers in some class he teaches, as once a year or
> so i briefly have a slew of students coming to me to talk about syntax
>


Awesome!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-21 Thread Robyn Schulze
  stjarni
> is the only horse i've seen in this area doing anything like soft
> lateral gaits (at any of the barns i've ridden at, at shows, at the
> beach, on the trails -- several hundred horses).

I must say, I find this completely bizarre. What's with you New
Englanders?  Who wants to be pounded in the butt everytime they want
an intermediate gait? I'm glad you got smart Vicka.

Robyn


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-21 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:40:17AM -, kim morton wrote:
> > > Icelandic is doing as a "tolt", it lays us open to
> > > being seen as unknowing about our own breed's gaits.
> > 
> > in what language, and as laid on by whom from on high?
> 
> I would think that other people involved with gaited horses in the 
> US. 

if we like, we can learn to use their terms.  but that leaves us
entirely *without* the word "tolt", which i expect most folks in 
english don't use at all.  (i guess we also lose "flying pace" too?)

> > > Better to say "he's gaiting", and leave it at that.
> > 
> > around here, that means "he's not standing still".
> 
> Here in Kentucky, the Eastern part of the state anyway (where there 
> is a long history of gaited horses), "gaiting" means the horse is 
> doing a lateral gait. 

here in new england, the only "lateral gait" that's recognized is the
pace seen on the racetrack, in driving (not riding) races.  pretty much
nobody rides it (i expect it feels like skeith/flying pace?).  stjarni 
is the only horse i've seen in this area doing anything like soft
lateral gaits (at any of the barns i've ridden at, at shows, at the
beach, on the trails -- several hundred horses).  i *do* think there is
a saddle-seat barn up route 95 somewhere, but i don't know if they teach
"5-gaited riding" or "3-gaited"; their students (adorable in their
little outfits, though i'm not sure the bowler-hats are what i'd
consider safe to ride in) entered the w/t/c english classes.

> > --vicka, phd, brain & language; faculty, harvard medical school
> >
> 
> Vicka, what exactly do you do there?

right now, i maintain computers for the bioinformatics research network
(brain imaging) and am conducting a study of how people talk in
psychotherapy with vs without the use of psychoactive medications.
previously i worked with correct and incorrect subliminal cuing's
effects on visual recognition (naming) tasks (with colleagues at mit)
and ported the "freesurfer" mri analysis package to osx and 64-bit
architectures.  (i've been here three-and-a-half years.)  in short, i'm
a brain scientist with a knack for computers and special interest (it
was my minor in grad school) in linguistics, and particularly enjoy
research into brain function involving language (my dissertation was on
the electrophysiological differences between nouns and verbs).  i also
occasionally supervise grad students or postdocs; i think steven pinker 
(a professor here) assigns either one of my papers or something that 
references one of my papers in some class he teaches, as once a year or
so i briefly have a slew of students coming to me to talk about syntax

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gaits / Tolt

2007-06-20 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 11:54:35PM -, tolt674 wrote:
> Tolt is the Icelandic word for rack, so maybe.  

oh really?  what's the icelandic word for "fox trot"?  "amble"?
"running walk"?

--vicka