Re: [IceHorses] training versus retraining - Stoic versus opinionated
On 27/03/2008, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in all seriousness, oh yeah, he's calmatose most of the time. My > Donny is dyslexic Lots of people are dyslexic, Tom Cruise for one...and there always have been people afflicted with it...it was just never diagnosed when I was in school. I know a few of the boys in my class had trouble reading, but I always thought they were just the brightest kids...the most fun to hang out with :). Nowadays kids get diagnosed when they have difficulties and get the proper help. Thank heaven for progress in our school systems... Wanda thinking of my old school chums...and wondering where they are now.. and can barely read and gets all his words wrong but > you couldnt ever mistake him for being "not bright" even tho most of > the time he appears calmatose. he is one of those people who cant > pass a test but you would sure like to have in the event of a nuclear > holocaust and you had to survive off the land. I found that out the > night we were camping and a storm blew thru and it went from 80 > degrees to 18 in a matter of hours and I had no coat. He made me a > wool cape by taking a blanket and throwing it around me, and making it > fasten by bunching the fabric over a rock and tying a piece of hay > string around it so it was like a button. I woulda never thought of > that... > Janice-- > even good horses have bad days sometimes. > > > > IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses > > "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, > contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and > unrealistic." > > "All truth passes through three stages. > First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. > Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer > > > [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com > [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com > [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo > [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Save the earth, it's the only place to get chocolate.
Re: [IceHorses] training versus retraining - Stoic versus opinionated
you should see him now, he is what donny calls "calmatose", only donny isnt making a joke, he thinks thats how it is spelled and pronounced. People will say wow, Tivar is sure a quiet horse and Donny will reply in all seriousness, oh yeah, he's calmatose most of the time. My Donny is dyslexic and can barely read and gets all his words wrong but you couldnt ever mistake him for being "not bright" even tho most of the time he appears calmatose. he is one of those people who cant pass a test but you would sure like to have in the event of a nuclear holocaust and you had to survive off the land. I found that out the night we were camping and a storm blew thru and it went from 80 degrees to 18 in a matter of hours and I had no coat. He made me a wool cape by taking a blanket and throwing it around me, and making it fasten by bunching the fabric over a rock and tying a piece of hay string around it so it was like a button. I woulda never thought of that... Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] training versus retraining - Stoic versus opinionated
>>> The only horse I own that I can brag on training 100% is my tivar, >>> trained by Shirley and Karen at her house in NC. That Shirley with her >>> quiet kindness and know how to teach a horse what it needs firmly and >>> quietly combined with Karen's will and enthusiasm about getting inside a >>> horse's head and discerning its needs after it has gone sour from other trainers... he was just a lucky guy cause let me tell you something about my Teev, he is like no by god, aint gonna take, I will go down fighting, Thanks Janice, but to be fair, I think Tivar had SOME good basic training and some good rides before we ever met him, but unfortunately, he must have had some bad experiences too. He was not a happy horse at all when we met him. Another good friend, not Shirley this time, kept saying things, like, My god, can you imagine what Tivar would be like if ALL of his training had been so positive?I've said it time and again - training is SO much easier than retraining. I'm lucky to have someone like Shirley who's taught me so much and who can take over the parts that still frustrate me. I do some parts of the rehab work fairly well I think - Tivar and I developed a nice bond on the ground and he was SO willing to learn... but I couldn't have ignored his initial threats of bucking in the quiet and patient way that Shirley did. (My memory of waiting for someone to find me when I broke my back are too vivid.) That would have unnerved me too much and frustrated me, which probably would have kept him on edge. Shirley rarely gets dumped...not because she's a great rider, even though she is. It's because she knows when to mount a horse, and when not to - that's SO important. We agreed early on that Tivar needed something done besides being ridden - no point in anyone. horse or human, being hurt. Once I took the time and did plenty of relaxed groundwork, got him all physically checked out, and figured out to try the ulcer treatment, she was ready to get on him, and could tell that his initial reactions were more from "fear of pain" than from actual pain. As soon as he saw the real pain was gone, it was smooth sailing...slow, but smooth. To Janice's credit, Tivar was in the best state of mind I could imagine when I saw him last fall, almost a year after he left. She needs a huge atta girl for that, that she didn't allow him to backslide during his transition. Karen Thomas, NC
