Re: Author's details in RFCs

2002-03-27 Thread Pekka Savola

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Ian Cooper wrote:
 But why must the author(s)/editor supply addresses and telephone numbers? 
 And what should an independent author/editor with no affiliation provide? 
 (Please don't tell me they should use their residential details - that's 
 unacceptable.)
 
 I understand that in rare cases the RFC Editor will allow publications with 
 only a persistent email address, but in that case I'm curious as to why we 
 don't just go that route and do away with physically bound points of 
 contact altogether.  After all, they don't appear to serve any useful 
 purpose (other than to provide headhunters a number to call).

I agree completely.  I've zero intention to provide anything other than:

 - name
 - affiliation
 - city, country
 - email address

in any draft I'll write; I won't put in street address, phone number or
anything because I don't want to be contacted that way based on a
draft/RFC: email address will work, and if not, it will be more or less
trivial to find another address that does work.  And if a new email 
address couldn't be found, one probably don't want to be contacted about 
the issue anyway.

-- 
Pekka Savola Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy   not those you stumble over and fall
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RE: Article: Mobile security flaw delivers yet another blow to IPv6

2002-03-27 Thread Basavaraj . Patil


Hello James,

The article that you are pointing to is over a year old.

The Mobile IPv6 protocol has come a long way since
then. If you follow the progress of the MIPv6 work on
the Mobile IP WG list, you will realize that the WG is
now in the final stages of completing the work on MIPv6.

-Basavaraj


 - Original Message -
 From: Meritt James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:06 PM
 Subject: Article: Mobile security flaw delivers yet another
 blow to IPv6


 The problems with Mobile IPv6 are frustrating for IPv6 proponents, who
 view wireless applications as the likely first adopters of  IPv6. This
 frustration was evident at a meeting of the IETF's Mobile IP working
 group, which was held in Minneapolis on March 22.

 It's a setback for those who are eager to get IPv6 out there, says
 Steve Deering, a Cisco engineer who helped design IPv6 and
 serves on the IETF's Internet Architecture Board. The Mobile IP working group has
 been working on this since 1991. It's been a long process.

 Full article at http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2001/0402mobileip.html

 --
 James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA
 Booz | Allen | Hamilton
 phone: (410) 684-6566








Re: Article: Mobile security flaw delivers yet another blow to IPv6

2002-03-27 Thread Meritt James

I know.  That wasn't what I was interested in, nor was that the section
I quoted.  What a guy said WAS of interest. But if folks are going to
work themselves up into a froth over it (in particular you), why not
just use the delete key?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello James,
 
 The article that you are pointing to is over a year old.
 
 The Mobile IPv6 protocol has come a long way since
 then. If you follow the progress of the MIPv6 work on
 the Mobile IP WG list, you will realize that the WG is
 now in the final stages of completing the work on MIPv6.
 
 -Basavaraj
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Meritt James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:06 PM
  Subject: Article: Mobile security flaw delivers yet another
  blow to IPv6
 
 
  The problems with Mobile IPv6 are frustrating for IPv6 proponents, who
  view wireless applications as the likely first adopters of  IPv6. This
  frustration was evident at a meeting of the IETF's Mobile IP working
  group, which was held in Minneapolis on March 22.
 
  It's a setback for those who are eager to get IPv6 out there, says
  Steve Deering, a Cisco engineer who helped design IPv6 and
  serves on the IETF's Internet Architecture Board. The Mobile IP working group has
  been working on this since 1991. It's been a long process.
 
  Full article at http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2001/0402mobileip.html
 
  --
  James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA
  Booz | Allen | Hamilton
  phone: (410) 684-6566
 
 
 
 

-- 
James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
phone: (410) 684-6566




Re: [idn] Re: 7 bits forever!

2002-03-27 Thread Claus Färber

D. J. Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote:
 I'm not saying that Quoted-Printable had no short-term benefits for its
 short-term costs. I'm saying that, viewed from our long-term perspective
 eleven years later, the failure to require 8-bit transparency was an
 amazingly stupid decision.

From our present perspective, that's true. Back then, it might
have been the best solution.

Further, remember that the first MIME standards date back to 1992.
Back then, Unicode was brand-new and UTF-8 only came with the 2.0
version in 1996. Without UTF-8, you just could not even think
about using Unicode in message headers; and without Unicode, you
could not solve the charset-labelling problem. This might not seem
to be a problem in the Western world, which only uses ISO-8859-1
(with some exceptions) but it certainly was in Middle and East
Europe, the Arabic world, the Far East etc. Just send 8bit does
not work there because you don't know the charset.

 Probably the result would have been long-term 8-bit with no
 short-term kludges. Conceivably it would have been long-term 8-
 bit plus optional short-term Quoted-Printable. Either way, it
 would have been vastly better than what actually happened.

The short-term kludges are already going away. The body of
messages is now often sent in 8bit instead of qp. Some mailers
will still convert it down to quoted-printable but that does not
matter either because mailers will still have to support the
short-term kludges to handle old mail and mail sent by/through
systems that still need them.
But we still need the charset parameter. The movement towards UTF-
8 everywhere is quite new.

Actually, one could now write a specification that declares the
headers to be UTF-8 or an unkown leagacy 8bit charset.

Claus
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Re: Netmeeting - NAT issue

2002-03-27 Thread Claus Färber

Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote:
 the technical solutions exist.  what is needed is for more OS vendors
 to support v6 (and 6to4 on the host).

What we do need are killer applications. Just imagine what would
happen if Quake IV required IPv6[1]. ;-)

Claus

[1] and came with everything you need to make your host IPv6-
capable, of course.
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Re: Article: Mobile security flaw delivers yet another blow to IPv6

2002-03-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:25:09 CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 the Mobile IP WG list, you will realize that the WG is
 now in the final stages of completing the work on MIPv6.

  It's a setback for those who are eager to get IPv6 out there, says

final stages of completing the work is *NOT* the same thing as
ready to deploy code.
-- 
Valdis Kletnieks
Computer Systems Senior Engineer
Virginia Tech




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RE: PPP

2002-03-27 Thread Bob Braden


  * switching but a rose by any other name ...).  So all of these, including 
  * PPP, exist at layers 1-2 in the TCP/IP model (link, network, internetwork, 
  * transport, application) ...
  * 

(catching up on old email)

Note that this is not the common-accepted definition of the Internet
layering model.  The Host Requirements working grouip went through this
in detail in 1988, and agreed on the definitions in section 1.1.3 of
RFC 1122.  Strictly speaking, there IS no network layer in the
Internet model, although we commonly tolerate calling the Internet
layer (layer 3) the network layer.  Layer 2 is the link layer.

Bob Braden