Re: The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility

2013-06-27 Thread alejandroacostaalamo
Hi,
  First, as a comment, I guess there is people who follow more IETF remotely 
than other in place.
  Second, I like this idea of changing the threshold.
  Third, In the other hand, since there are several positions that are fill 
using this RFC maybe we can place a testbed. 50% can be fill using the current 
way and 50% using the proposed way, sounds crazy but it might be a good 
beginning.

Thanks,

Alejandro,


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-Original Message-
From: Olafur Gudmundsson 
Sender: ietf-boun...@ietf.org
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:06:36 
To: S Moonesamy
Cc: Internet Whining TF
Subject: Re: The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility


On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:50 AM, S Moonesamy  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> RFC 3777 specifies the process by which members of the Internet Architecture 
> Board, Internet Engineering Steering Group and IETF Administrative Oversight 
> Committee are selected, confirmed, and recalled.
> 
> draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility proposes an update RFC 3777 to allow 
> remote contributors to the IETF Standards Process to be eligible to serve on 
> NomCom and sign a Recall petition ( 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-00 ).
> 
> Could you please read the draft and comment?
> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
> 


SM, 
I read the draft, I think there might be some merit to this proposal but I 
think the threshold issue should be clarified. 
What does "one of the last five mean" during an IETF meeting? 

I think the threshold of having attended one meeting is too low, I would relax 
the rule to say something like this:
"must have attended at least 5 meetings of the last 15 and including one of the 
last 5". 
15 meetings is 5 years, I know that is a long time, t this will allow people 
that that have been involved for a long time but have limited 
resources to attend to participate in Nomcom/recall processes. 

Q: do you want to limit how many "infrequent" attendees can be on Nomcom just 
like the number of people from a single organization can sign a
recall ? 


Olafur



Re: raw meeting minutes (Re: meetecho praise)

2013-03-18 Thread alejandroacostaalamo
Hi, 
  Just my two cents: The very few times I've been minute taker it worked very 
well. Probably the problem might be when there is more than one minute taker 
using Etherpad at the same time.

Alejandro,

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-Original Message-
From: Lou Berger 
Sender: ietf-boun...@ietf.org
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:00:31 
To: ; Mary Barnes; Dave 
Crocker
Cc: IETF-Discussion list
Subject: Re: raw meeting minutes (Re: meetecho praise)

Etherpad is an awesome tool and we've found out to be hugely useful over a 
number of IETFs, but be forewarned that on a couple of rare occasions the 
notes have disappeared. In the first case, it took a manual step for it to 
be restored.  In the second we had a private copy...

Lou



On March 18, 2013 12:35:49 PM Dave Crocker  wrote:
>
> On 3/18/2013 9:28 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
> > it seems to take
> > a long time for many to get their meeting minutes uploaded.  My
> > suggestion is for chairs to at least upload the raw minutes as drafts
>
>
> If minutes takers used etherpad, the raw minutes would be available in 
> real-time, rather than requiring everyone to wait for the polished version.
>
> It would also allow some crows-sourcing of corrections and additions to the 
> raw minutes...
>
> d/
>
> --
>   Dave Crocker
>   Brandenburg InternetWorking
>   bbiw.net
>




Re: meetecho praise

2013-03-18 Thread alejandroacostaalamo
Hi all,
  I would like to join Mikael's words.
  I used to connect using a regular jabber client but the experience with 
meetecho is much better. Having audio, chat room  and the slides is fantastic.
  I did not use the html5 version so my audio was using vlc, I had to modify 
our firewall rules becase the destionation port was blocked. Audio was very 
good (it can always be better of course).

Thanks,
 


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-Original Message-
From: Mikael Abrahamsson 
Sender: ietf-boun...@ietf.org
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:04:06 
To: 
Subject: meetecho praise


Hello.

I would just like to say I'm very grateful for the WGs that used Meetecho 
to record their sessions. The HTML5 versions works out of the box with no 
plugins in Chrome both on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine and Chrome on my 
Windows7 machine. The sync of sound, slides, picture and jabber room is 
excellent and makes it very easy top follow what's going on. Some other 
recordings focus too much on the video of the speaker, where I'm of the 
opinion that it's the slides and the sound that is most important, and 
current incarnation of Meetecho solves this very nicely.

I applaud these efforts and hope we can end up in a situation where all 
meetings at the IETF is recorded in this way.

Thanks.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se