Fwd: Poster sessions
On 07/Jan/11 05:26, rajesh rajesh wrote: Poster sessions at IETF meeting sounds quite meaningful considering fact that thoughts are written and author available for discussion and will give way for fresh subject. Rajesh On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it mailto:ves...@tana.it wrote: I've never attended an IETF meeting. Why? Because it seems to me quite unlikely to have a chance to say something useful by going there. I mean useful with respect to a problem that I consider important. That is, not just a minimal contribution to an already scheduled session that I may happen to attend. Perhaps, I should request a session... Problems are often expressed in the form of tentative solutions. Such solutions may occasionally happen to be discussed, refined, and agreed upon by a group of individuals. Implementation, standardization, and adoption may eventually follow --not necessarily in this order. Isn't this how the IRTF and the IETF should work? A poster session would be a sort of plenary, lasting a couple of hours or so, with posters hanged on numbered hardboard panels arranged along a walkway. A poster may be sized A0, or ~50 in, or consist of an equivalent number of smaller sheets. Posters may stay exposed for a few hours before/after the scheduled time period. During the session time, however, authors should stand beside their posters and thus have their chance to talk to any interested ietfers, one by one or in small knots, informally. A few dozens of posters per session may provide for adequate gathering. IME, this way of participating is easier and less binding for both authors and attendees. A poster would suit subjects for which it's difficult to carve a niche within a hosting WG's session, but it may also work as a means to achieve consensus on a given topic before raising it in a more official discussion. Opinions/suggestions? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org mailto:Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: IETF Hosting Opportunity - March 2009
India is also becoming significant in terms of well trained graduate IT engineers and certified engineers, it can be more interesting if these IT engineers are more involved in activities of IETF, ISOC, ICANN and other standards related organizations. Probably initiatives can start during their graduate and certification course work by means of having to study a subject related with standards. Right now IT engineers awareness even existence of IEEE or the term 802.xx is very minimum. but in terms of connectivity to major Indian cities are good and with Bangalore like place there are venues available closely matching International level. ISOC fellowships concept needs big appreciation this goes long way in developing countries like India will see major participation in IETF activities and in future India can be venue for IETF meetings. Rajesh India On Nov 29, 2007 8:22 PM, Joel Jaeggli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete Resnick wrote: India is becoming interesting because (a) we're getting more folks from India participating and (b) the mean-time-to-travel to any place on earth for current participants might be trending toward India. (We've got more folks in east Asia who would have a shorter trip to India than to Europe or North America, and there are now direct flights over the pole between North America and India.) Finding a large enough venue in India is a different problem. In the past, willing hosts who can make the costs pencil out have succeeded in in hosting meetings in well connected locations that are a substantial distance from either the united states or europe. The collective set of volunteers the secretariat have made hostless meetings work in locations where they have access to resources. It doesn't seem to be reasonable or workable for the IAOC to attempt meeting venues were there are neither hosts with resources (which variously in the past have included, hands, facilities, circuits, capital, government contacts etc) or ietf participants who are not hosts with access to similar resources. The evolution of the hosting model hasn't thus far (in my experience) eliminated this dependency on the efforts of hosts and/or resources that members of community have access to. Every meeting that I have been involved in since 37 located in the US or outside, perceived to be successful network or otherwise has thus far leveraged those sorts of resources to a lesser or greater extent. If we have resources we can leverage in India there's no reason to be believe that we can't host a successful meeting there. certainly there are well connected cities with usable venues. Personally, on similar mean-time-to-travel grounds, St. Johns in Newfoundland looks interesting. :-) Not, the coldest venue thus far... pr ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Fwd: Africa and IPv6
-- Forwarded message -- From: rajesh rajesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Nov 19, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Africa and IPv6 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Educating decision making people about IPv6 through capacity building and training engineers especially at developing countries will make things clear about IPv6. IPv4 addresses shortage is being felt ...then IPv6 is appears to be the solution. Rajesh On Nov 16, 2007 7:38 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Philemon, I'm not sure if I'm missing something from your email, but what I can tell you is: 1) Africa is not in a so bad situation looking at other regions with IPv6, considering also the actual level of broadband deployment with IPv4. 2) Many people in other regions is also not aware of what IPv6 means, not just as a protocol, but also from the perspective of future applications and services. So no big difference here with the rest of the world, in general. 3) I've very closely worked with AfriNIC in the IPv6 capacity building programs and the results are VERY visible, as the number of commercial IPv6 services, pilots and related activities has been continuously increasing since them, showing the positive results of those actions. 4) Nobody is telling remove IPv4. We talk about transition and coexistence NOT migration, at least not at the time being. Against this is the same problem in other regions, lack of enough education about this matter. Competitors often don't talk openly about what they do, right ? I work with many African ISPs and enterprises, and the situation doesn't look the same you see. 5) Moving to IPv6 is *NOT*, in general, so expensive as perceived. In fact, if you need help, I will be happy to provide it for free, as I often do in developing regions. 6) IPv6 has been designed to cooperate with IPv4 ! Regards, Jordi De: philemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:46:48 +0100 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ietf@ietf.org Asunto: Africa and IPv6 Hi All, Sorry for leading IPv4/IPv6 issues/debats back to the Africa context. indeed, it is important for us who live in this area to undesrtand what is our specific fate, what are our expectations in connection with the 'coming' IP protocol ( I mean IP v6). One note a king of hypocrisy, even in Africa, about the extent of the CURRENT importance or necessity of IPv6 in Africa. Hereupon, i want to share with you my analyze. The keen interest for IPv6 is very very weak throughout the continent http://www.afrinic.net/statistics/ipv6_resources.htm The cause of this fact are numerous: - People are not aware on additional benefits IPv6 should bring in their life; thereby no thing is motivating them sustain to dynamic towars IPv6. The main cause is the fact that there is no active e-strategy program in the different governement political/policy agenda. - Many organisations including afrinic try to initiate some capacity building programs upon IPv6 for the attention of mainly some technical bodies (ISPs...). Since then, not sure that things are going ahead at the exepected speed. We can therefore wonder: Was it strategic to beging the consciousness-raising compaign focusing on those specific bodies? If so why things are not moving upon in Africa? I work in a local ISP in my country, we have some meetings with our competitors but no ISP here refer to IPv6 issues as if it was not a very tipical matter as it is! Here again many ISPs in Africa are not yet aware on the technical/business benefits of IPv6. According to some ISPs/africans), as IPv4 is working well why should us change/remove it? Some one can answer by refering to the exhaustion matter. Thereupon, some one add new arguments so that to remain with IPv4 by well coming in the same time IPv6. They argue: - Moving towards the exclusive IPv6 is very expensive for African governments, operators and users as well... and we cannot. - Why both IPv4 and IPv6 cannot 'collaborate' together forever? Thanks Philemon - Original Message - From: Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: FW: I-D Action:draft-narten-ipv6-statement-00.txt Hi. A little more background/context that got me here. My original thinking was to do something like what ICANN and the RIRs have done, to bring awareness to the IPv4 situation and call for IPv6 deployment. I think the IETF can say a bit more about why, and the threats to the internet architecture. (This came out of some conversations I had at the recent ICANN meeting). Maybe this could be an IAB statement. Maybe an IETF statement. I'm not sure. But I think it would be useful to have an IETF voice also be heard in the call for deployment. Especially
