Re: [IAOC] primary Paris hotel booking

2012-01-19 Thread Stuart Cheshire
On 3 Jan 2012, at 16:02, Bob Hinden wrote:

 Wes,
 
 I think everyone on the IAOC was surprised when we first heard that the 
 meeting hotel insisted that people can only use fax or email to send in their 
 reservations.  We tried to get the hotel to change this, but they would not 
 budge.  This included their rejection of accepting reservations by phone.

I sent them an encrypted PDF by email, and then called Hotel Concorde to give 
Carole Masson the password by phone. I was told that I could neither speak with 
Carole Masson nor leave a message for her. So right now the hotel has an 
encrypted PDF from me which they cannot view.

BTW, the Hotel Concorde phone number given at 
http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/hotel.html is wrong.

Web page says: +33 1 40 68 50 50
Actual number:  +33 1 40 68 50 68

Stuart Cheshire

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Re: [IAOC] primary Paris hotel booking

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Hinden
Wes,

I think everyone on the IAOC was surprised when we first heard that the meeting 
hotel insisted that people can only use fax or email to send in their 
reservations.  We tried to get the hotel to change this, but they would not 
budge.  This included their rejection of accepting reservations by phone.

Other nearby hotels were much more expensive, so this reservation method was 
reluctantly accepted.

You are, of course, free to book online but when I checked earlier today the 
rates were higher even without breakfast included  (but the cancelation policy 
less was severe).  Your tradeoff.  In this venue, the IETF will receive credit 
for your stay if you book on line (or through your corporate travel department).

It also most goes with out saying that there are also many other hotels in 
Paris at lower and higher rates.

Bob





On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:52 AM, George, Wes wrote:

 Happy New Year, it's time for our triannual hotel complaint thread.
 I hate to do it, but I think that there are people who haven't looked at this 
 yet, and I'm hoping that we can perhaps rectify it before the majority of 
 folks try to book:
 
 Instructions for making reservations at Hotel Concorde:
 Please fill out the reservations form and fax it directly to the hotel at: 
 +33 1 57 00 50 79 or email it to cmas...@concorde-hotels.com
 
 It's 2012, but the IETF and this hotel chain expects us to book reservations 
 at the main conference hotel by (international) FAX or by *emailing* a form 
 which includes a credit card number so that the hotel can hold the room and 
 implement its relatively bizarre prepay/anti-cancellation policy.
 Would it be trolling to ask whether anyone verified that cmasson has 
 support for PGP encrypted-email and a proper method of securely storing (and 
 then destroying after use) the several hundred credit card numbers they are 
 about to receive?
 
 What person or rate code should we ask for when booking our rooms over the 
 phone? (hey if I'm going old school, I'm doing it all the way!) Though, given 
 the above, I'm relatively worried that my credit card number will simply end 
 up on an unprotected spreadsheet on a PC somewhere in their office even if I 
 call to book.
 
 More practically, the hotel blocks at the primary hotel typically fill up 
 quite fast once registration is opened, especially since the overflow hotel 
 is actually more expensive than the primary. Does the hotel fax/call us back 
 to tell us that they have no more rooms available for our requested dates, or 
 is the block open-ended such that they will keep selling rooms in it until 
 the cutoff regardless of the number?
 
 Evidently ability to book group rate rooms online is something that should 
 be added to our list of hotel requirements. I'm stunned that it's not there 
 already.
 
 Wes George
 
 
 
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