Re: followup discussion

2003-03-15 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Spencer Dawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It seems to be a well-kept secret, but there IS a page of
> Concluded Working Groups at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/index.html (and accessible
> from the Working Groups page). So the paragraph should point to
> this as well (just in case a working group DOES conclude!)

Sadly, sometimes information about various groups vanishes. A while
ago, years after the group concluded, I wanted to get in touch with
the TFTP extensions folks, but all traces of the list archives and
authors seem to have vanished (although I know what addresses
everything once used, it doesn't help much...)

Perry



RE: followup discussion

2003-03-14 Thread Spencer Dawkins
It seems to be a well-kept secret, but there IS a page of
Concluded Working Groups at
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/index.html (and accessible
from the Working Groups page). So the paragraph should point to
this as well (just in case a working group DOES conclude!)

Spencer

p.s. It would be swell if the hyperlink for the working group
didn't change when it concluded, but that doesn't seem to be the
case (just looking at
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/tcpimpl-charter.html as an
example).

--- Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There just need to be a little paragraph in the RFC about the
> IETF web site
> and where to find the workgroup that created this RFC,
> something like:
> 
> This RFC was produced by a Working Group of the IETF
> (www.ietf.org). The
> IETF maintains a list of all active Working Group. If you have
> questions or
> comments please consult the IETF web site on how to contact
> the appropriate
> workgroup.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joe Touch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 6:00 
> > To: Dave Crocker
> > Cc: John Stracke; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: followup discussion
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave Crocker wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > > 
> > > For some reason, we continue to make followup discussion a
> matter of
> > > accident, rather than facilitation.
> > > 
> > > In line with Don's suggesttion:
> > > 
> > > We ought to make sure that all I-Ds and RFCs contain
> contact
> > > information, not just for the authors, but also for the 
> > group context,
> > > such as the mailing list.
> > 
> > FWIW, this seems somewhat ephemeral. Many mailing lists
> don't 
> > last very 
> > long; some change (PPVPN has moved quite a bit), while
> others 
> > disappear 
> > after the WG ends, which is often just when the more 
> > significant final 
> > RFCs are issued.
> > 
> > There are many means by which we can find the WG associated 
> > with an RFC, 
> > such as the IETF WG pages themselves.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > 
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RE: followup discussion

2003-03-13 Thread Franck Martin
There just need to be a little paragraph in the RFC about the IETF web site
and where to find the workgroup that created this RFC, something like:

This RFC was produced by a Working Group of the IETF (www.ietf.org). The
IETF maintains a list of all active Working Group. If you have questions or
comments please consult the IETF web site on how to contact the appropriate
workgroup.



> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Touch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 6:00 
> To: Dave Crocker
> Cc: John Stracke; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: followup discussion
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Crocker wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > For some reason, we continue to make followup discussion a matter of
> > accident, rather than facilitation.
> > 
> > In line with Don's suggesttion:
> > 
> > We ought to make sure that all I-Ds and RFCs contain contact
> > information, not just for the authors, but also for the 
> group context,
> > such as the mailing list.
> 
> FWIW, this seems somewhat ephemeral. Many mailing lists don't 
> last very 
> long; some change (PPVPN has moved quite a bit), while others 
> disappear 
> after the WG ends, which is often just when the more 
> significant final 
> RFCs are issued.
> 
> There are many means by which we can find the WG associated 
> with an RFC, 
> such as the IETF WG pages themselves.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 



Re: followup discussion

2003-03-13 Thread Joe Touch


Dave Crocker wrote:
Folks,

For some reason, we continue to make followup discussion a matter of
accident, rather than facilitation.
In line with Don's suggesttion:

We ought to make sure that all I-Ds and RFCs contain contact
information, not just for the authors, but also for the group context,
such as the mailing list.
FWIW, this seems somewhat ephemeral. Many mailing lists don't last very 
long; some change (PPVPN has moved quite a bit), while others disappear 
after the WG ends, which is often just when the more significant final 
RFCs are issued.

There are many means by which we can find the WG associated with an RFC, 
such as the IETF WG pages themselves.

Joe




Re: followup discussion

2003-03-13 Thread Keith Moore
We ought to make sure that all I-Ds and RFCs contain contact
information, not just for the authors, but also for the group context,
such as the mailing list.
it would be useful to have a pointer to the RFC Editor's errata page for
that document also.