Re: [Ifeffit] Scattering paths in XANES calculations

2014-06-12 Thread Matthew Marcus

That sounds like an interesting talk.  Is it available?
mam

On 6/12/2014 7:07 AM, Stefanie Roese wrote:

Dear all,
I am performing XANES calculations for silver clusters with FEFF. Aditional to my XANES 
results, I would like to get information about the participating scattering paths and how 
they influence my spectra. In detail I want to get the same pictures that Bruce ravel 
used in his talk a practical introduction to multiple scattering theory from 
page 11. I have performed calculations for XANES using the rpath algorithm to obtain the 
feff.dat files. I already checked, that the course of the rpath spectra  agrees to 
the fms calculations in ordner to make sure that the algorithm converged.

But now I fail at getting the plots with the Energy at the x-axis and the 
normailzed mu at the y-axis likle Bruce did it in his talk. Which program was 
used there? Athena? And how can I get the energy/mu-information out of my 
feffnnn.dat files to compare to the total spectrum? I think I am quite close to 
the solution, but it does not work.

Thanks in advance for every help!
Steffi
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Re: [Ifeffit] Scattering paths in XANES calculations

2014-06-12 Thread Bruce Ravel

On 06/12/2014 10:07 AM, Stefanie Roese wrote:

But now I fail at getting the plots with the Energy at the x-axis and
the normailzed mu at the y-axis likle Bruce did it in his talk. Which
program was used there? Athena? And how can I get the
energy/mu-information out of my feffnnn.dat files to compare to the
total spectrum? I think I am quite close to the solution, but it does
not work.


Stefanie,

The R-space figures were made using Artemis.  I fit the Fe foil data 
using the version of Feff6 that comes with Artemis, then plotted the 
data and the path relevant to each slide.


The energy plots were made using Athena back in the early days of Feff8 
(which were also the early days of Athena!).  The plots show Fe foil 
data and (if I remember correctly) column 4 of the xmu.dat file that was 
one of the output files from Feff of that vintage.  I imported the data 
and the xmu.dat file into Athena to make those plots.  The calculation 
is offset downwards a bit using the y-axis offset in Athena.


To answer Matthew's question: interesting?  Not sure I'd go that far...! 
 Here's the link:



https://speakerdeck.com/bruceravel/a-practical-introduction-to-multiple-scattering-theory

B



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Re: [Ifeffit] Crystallographic input for a structure having screw axis and co-ordinates shifted by certain amount

2014-06-12 Thread Bruce Ravel


Madhusmita,

Regarding the first question, I am not clear what the problem is.  I 
grabbed the crystal data for anatase from Matt's website:


   http://cars9.uchicago.edu/atomsdb/TiO2-ana.inp

and imported it into Artemis.  I certainly don't know what the 
interatomic distances for anatase should be off the top of my head, but 
what Atoms produced from that input data certainly seems reasonable.  If 
you think there is a problem, you are going to need to explain it in a 
way that I can reproduce easily on my own computer.


Regarding the second question,  the vector specified in the box labeled 
Shift vector will be added to each site *before* any calculation is made.


B

On 06/12/2014 01:45 AM, madhusmita sahoo wrote:

Dear Members,

I would like to know,

*Q1)* If there is a screw axis in the system, like the anatase phase of
TiO2, whose space group is I41/amd, how should I  enter that in the
atoms for feff calculation. Kindly tell me which  is the correct way.

When I entered 141(the space group number) and I41/amd, both generated
separate set of atomic positions.

  The older version of artemis, now the new one(latest version), both
generates different set of atomic position with the same
crystallographic input, i.e if I enter 141(or I41/amd) in place of space
group and run atoms, it generates two different set of co-ordinates in
Artemis 0.8.012 and in Demeter 0.9.18. Ideally this should be same.

*Q2)* And when co-ordinates is shifted by certain amount, do we have to
  enter that in the shift vector as well as while defining the (x y z)
  of a particular site. Or I should just enter the shift vector and
  define the co-ordinates at its usual position ( I feel this one is
correct).

  For example in anatase crystal structure  the co-ordinates are shifted
  by (0,0.25,-0.125).

So, the inputs can be

For shift vector 0,0.25,-0.125 and in place of sites Ti(core) x=0, y=0,
z= 0 and O (scatterer) x= 0, y=0, z=0.20806

(Or) shift vector 0,0,0 and in place of sites Ti(core) x=0, y=0.25, z=
-0.125 and O (scatterer)  x= 0, y=0.25, z=0.08160 Ideally

both should  give the same result. But it gives different set of atomic
positions.

Even the same input in different version of artemis is yielding
  different results(in Artemis 0.8.012 and in Demeter 0.9.18) .

I am confused about  how atoms work in artemis. I request you to
elucidate the correct method.

Warm wishes

Madhusmita

India


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