[fsug-tvm] Re: Mounting fat, ntfs drives in KDE 4.2

2009-02-08 Thread Sebin Jacob
Once again, I thank you all for the wonderful help that I got. This
community is nothing less than wonderful and by every passing day, I am
becoming more and more, a fan of this great Idea of FLOSS.

regards,
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Mounting fat, ntfs drives in KDE 4.2

2009-02-08 Thread Praveen A

2009/2/7 Sebin Jacob sebinaja...@gmail.com:
 Apart from this, there is something else too that i would like to know. In
 Gnome, I am able to see an icon of a network manager that does the job of
 automatically connecting to the internet. But if I am logging directly in
 KDE nightly, the system does not connect to the internet and I do not know
 from where to find the network manager. As I am really in love with the new
 KDE interface, this is a bit awkard. Now, what I do to get around is to
 first login using Gnome which connects to the internet directly and then
 logout and re-login with KDE nightly. Once, Gnome connect itself to
 internet, the connection does not cut off and I am able to get it in KDE
 too.

I'm using wicd (wicd.sourceforge.net). There is a plasma applet front
end for network manager being developed. There is a debian package,
don't know the status in ubuntu. I have not used it though.

 Thanks for the tips, Praveen A and Ashik S.

You are welcome, its a pleasure.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Mounting fat, ntfs drives in KDE 4.2

2009-02-08 Thread Sebin Jacob


 I'm using wicd (wicd.sourceforge.net). There is a plasma applet front
 end for network manager being developed. There is a debian package,
 don't know the status in ubuntu. I have not used it though.


I just checked the download page of wicd. It says Please note that this
will remove network-manager, which is the default GNOME network manager and
may cause loss of network connection temporarily. As I am not completely
writing off the use of Gnome, is this advisable? Or is it that, the network
manager would only be removed from the KDE and still might be used in Gnome?

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Mounting fat, ntfs drives in KDE 4.2

2009-02-08 Thread Praveen A

2009/2/8 Sebin Jacob sebinaja...@gmail.com:
 I just checked the download page of wicd. It says Please note that this
 will remove network-manager, which is the default GNOME network manager and
 may cause loss of network connection temporarily. As I am not completely
 writing off the use of Gnome, is this advisable? Or is it that, the network
 manager would only be removed from the KDE and still might be used in Gnome?

wicd is a complete substitute for network manager. It works in gnome,
kde and everywhere else. I simply love it. If you don't like you can
go back by installing network-manager later.

btw the plasma applet is in playground-base module, which I'm trying
to build right now.
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Mounting fat, ntfs drives in KDE 4.2

2009-02-08 Thread Praveen A

2009/2/8 Sebin Jacob sebinaja...@gmail.com:
 wget -q http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg -o-

 sudo apt-key add -

are you sure you gave the two commands in the same line? That was a
shortcut to simplify two commands and not to have the file lying
around. It takes the output from first command and pass it to the
second command if given in a single line.

try this.
wget http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg

this will download wicd.gpg to current directory.

then sudo apt-key add wicd.gpg

now try
aptitude update

 The results I got was this:

 W: GPG error: http://apt.wicd.net intrepid Release: The following signatures
 couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
 FEC820F4B8C0755A

 The same had occured before while trying to update open office to its newest
 verison by adding deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu
 intrepid main to the third party depositories index.

 W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following
 signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
 NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF

 So in both the cases, the system is not able to access the GPG keys. How
 could this be done?

pr...@parimbrath:/tmp$ gpg --recv-key 0x60D11217247D1CFF
gpg: requesting key 247D1CFF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key 247D1CFF: public key Launchpad PPA for OpenOffice.org
Scribblers imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
pr...@parimbrath:/tmp$ gpg --export --armor 0x60D11217247D1CFF | sudo
apt-key add -
OK

gpg keys are used to ensure the authenticity of the packages. You can
ignore those if you trust the source and sure no one is trying
mischief (some repositories does not give signed packages, be careful
with them). But it always good to verify. The next step is the web of
trust, physically verify the identity of the owner and sign their gpg
keys. Its starts with you trust someone, he trust andother ... and you
can trust the chain.

Read more about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

Debian has one of the largest web of trust, with signatures from two
existing debian developers being mandatory for a new debian developer.
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Fedora Installation Manual

2009-02-08 Thread jinesh kj
hi,

I think its better to add trouble shooting options, adding extra
repositories etc. too. Now a days, installation is an easy thing(and many
times someone will be there, to help you out while first setting up the
system).

So may be, a manual which talks about the things after install(like setting
network,installing required programs, setting up mobile, camera etc.). I
think this is trouble for many(since many are not used to the install from
repository concept).

cheers

Jinesh K J

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 Nice Benny,

 In the second page instead of Fedora, typed Ubuntu.
 Rest seems to ok.

 Great work !
 Congratulations !!!


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  Hello. I have also written a Fedora Installation manual. Please review
  it and point out any shortcomings.
 
  Regards
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[fsug-tvm] kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Shino Jacob

I have installed KDE4. The looks and feel and horrendous.
So switched back to gnome.
I have two thinks to know.
1) Is there a way to improve KDE look and feel
2) how to remove unwanted KDE libraries, I could remove some kde
stuff, and reclaim around 400 MB,
is deborphan useful for that purpose.


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[fsug-tvm] Re: kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Sebin Jacob
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Shino Jacob shinoja...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have installed KDE4. The looks and feel and horrendous.
 So switched back to gnome.
 I have two thinks to know.
 1) Is there a way to improve KDE look and feel
 2) how to remove unwanted KDE libraries, I could remove some kde
 stuff, and reclaim around 400 MB,
 is deborphan useful for that purpose.


Shino,
I have installed KDE 4.2 (KDE nightly). Its having a great look and feel.
Far better that previous version. And it is pretty organised than Gnome.

Sebin
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[fsug-tvm] Re: kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S

You can change the default KDE looks from 

: Right click - 'Appearance Settings' and choosing plasma themes there or 
installing new ones by clicking the 'New Theme' button there.  You can also 
get more cotrol over appearance ( Icons , Color scheme etc ...) from 'System 
Settings' - Appearance. You can launch System  Settings from 'K Menu- 
System- System Settings'

IMHO if you go for looks, stick with KDE. The most beautiful desktops i have 
seen are either KDE or heavily customized fluxbox/xfce.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Fedora Installation Manual

2009-02-08 Thread P T Ashraf
Don't repeat same tasks many times with different format.Find out new one.

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 Hello. I have also written a Fedora Installation manual. Please review
 it and point out any shortcomings.


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[fsug-tvm] Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread Yadu Nand
After a long stretch of inactivity, the CET- linux user group is back in
action ..
This group was conceived by the Computer Science Association to bring
together,
the large linux using community in the college.The main objectives are
1.To introduce the student community to LINUX.
2.To contribute free software and support to the linux community.
3.Through FOSS projects gain coding and project
management skills.

Suggestions regarding activities,and their conduct are welcome.
If you think you can help and participate in this group..feel free to
contact.

Yadu Nand B ( S4 comp.sc CET )  yadudoc1...@gmail.com  +919447780725
A.K.Farook Naveen(S6 comp.sc CET) akfarooqnav...@gmail.com +919496464132

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[fsug-tvm] Re: installation from usb disk

2009-02-08 Thread junise safvan
i created xubuntu 8.04 live usb using unetbootin and installed in my old
laptop
i blogged the steps i followed while creating the live usb

here is the link

http://junisesafvanishere.blogspot.com/2009/02/linux-live-usb.html

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 i am having an old lap. the present os in it is opensuse. i want to change
 it into fluxubuntu  7.10 i have the iso of alternate fluxbox 7.10
 cd. the problem is that my cd drive is not working properly. is there any
 way to create it in a pendrive i tried the option in ubuntu 8.10. but it
 is not working for the alternate cd.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread junise safvan
my suggestion:

change the name linux user group to GNU/Linux user group.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Yadu Nand yadudoc1...@gmail.com wrote:

 After a long stretch of inactivity, the CET- linux user group is back in
 action ..
 This group was conceived by the Computer Science Association to bring
 together,
 the large linux using community in the college.The main objectives are
 1.To introduce the student community to LINUX.
 2.To contribute free software and support to the linux community.
 3.Through FOSS projects gain coding and project
 management skills.

 Suggestions regarding activities,and their conduct are welcome.
 If you think you can help and participate in this group..feel free to
 contact.

 Yadu Nand B ( S4 comp.sc CET )  yadudoc1...@gmail.com  +919447780725
 A.K.Farook Naveen(S6 comp.sc CET) akfarooqnav...@gmail.com +919496464132

 



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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread Mahesh Mohan
I'm a student of UIT(University Institute of Technology), for Bsc. computer
science. Can I be a part of your group?
=
Mahakavi Kumaranashan Said...

maaruvin...

allengil mattum
swayamathu ningale thaan

Switch to GNU/Linux before you are forced to.. !
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On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, junise safvan gnu...@gmail.com wrote:

 my suggestion:

 change the name linux user group to GNU/Linux user group.

 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Yadu Nand yadudoc1...@gmail.com wrote:

 After a long stretch of inactivity, the CET- linux user group is back in
 action ..
 This group was conceived by the Computer Science Association to bring
 together,
 the large linux using community in the college.The main objectives are
 1.To introduce the student community to LINUX.
 2.To contribute free software and support to the linux community.
 3.Through FOSS projects gain coding and project
 management skills.

 Suggestions regarding activities,and their conduct are welcome.
 If you think you can help and participate in this group..feel free to
 contact.

 Yadu Nand B ( S4 comp.sc CET )  yadudoc1...@gmail.com  +919447780725
 A.K.Farook Naveen(S6 comp.sc CET) akfarooqnav...@gmail.com +919496464132





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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread Yadu Nand
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, junise safvan gnu...@gmail.com wrote:

 my suggestion:

 change the name linux user group to GNU/Linux user group.


 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Yadu Nand yadudoc1...@gmail.com wrote:

 After a long stretch of inactivity, the CET- linux user group is back in
 action ..
 This group was conceived by the Computer Science Association to bring
 together,
 the large linux using community in the college.The main objectives are
 1.To introduce the student community to LINUX.
 2.To contribute free software and support to the linux community.
 3.Through FOSS projects gain coding and project
 management skills.

 Suggestions regarding activities,and their conduct are welcome.
 If you think you can help and participate in this group..feel free to
 contact.

 Yadu Nand B ( S4 comp.sc CET )  yadudoc1...@gmail.com  +919447780725
 A.K.Farook Naveen(S6 comp.sc CET) akfarooqnav...@gmail.com +919496464132


 thank you for your suggestion, we surely would take this into
 consideration


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[fsug-tvm] Help for making a project in Linux

2009-02-08 Thread Dineesh Murali
Hi,

I want to make a project in Linux
Could you please suggest me what kind projects are there I can go for Linux

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[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S

On Sunday 08 February 2009 19:59:07 Junise Safvan wrote:
 how to add a program to ubuntu startup

Do you mean right after you login or right after the system boots ?

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[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread junise safvan
i shall explain the requirment...
i am having an old laptop with keyboard not working properly.
so i want to startup onscreen keyboard application *xvkbd* at the login
screen.

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 On Sunday 08 February 2009 19:59:07 Junise Safvan wrote:
  how to add a program to ubuntu startup

 Do you mean right after you login or right after the system boots ?

 



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[fsug-tvm] Re: installation from usb disk

2009-02-08 Thread junise safvan
thanks

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[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S

http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-
bootup/

Maybe this will help

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help for making a project in Linux

2009-02-08 Thread sunil s
Database oriented web page programs
Mysql php
example - school management software

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 wat r u doing now?  pls explain.

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 Hi,

 I want to make a project in Linux
 Could you please suggest me what kind projects are there I can go for
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread ranjith s kumar

Dear friends
In this regard you can contact following faculty members for suggestions and 
support.

1. Dr. Gopakumar, Prof  Head ECE
2. Dr. M.R. Baiju, Asst.Prof, ECE
3. Dr. S. Anil Lal, Asst. Prof, ME

Getting them involved in your activities will be beneficial for your future 
endeavors.

Wish you all success 

Ranjith S. Kumar,Lecturer In Mechanical Engineering, Government Engineering, 
Collge,Barton Hill,Thiruvananthapuram -35,Mob.9447295213


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 Subject: [fsug-tvm] Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum 
 (CET)
 To: ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 12:28 PM
 After a long stretch of inactivity, the CET- linux user
 group is back in
 action ..
 This group was conceived by the Computer Science
 Association to bring
 together,
 the large linux using community in the college.The main
 objectives are
 1.To introduce the student community to LINUX.
 2.To contribute free software and support to the linux
 community.
 3.Through FOSS projects gain coding and project
 management skills.
 
 Suggestions regarding activities,and their conduct are
 welcome.
 If you think you can help and participate in this
 group..feel free to
 contact.
 
 Yadu Nand B ( S4 comp.sc CET )  yadudoc1...@gmail.com 
 +919447780725
 A.K.Farook Naveen(S6 comp.sc CET) akfarooqnav...@gmail.com
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[fsug-tvm] Re: kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S


  : Right click - 'Appearance Settings' and choosing plasma themes there
On the desktop

  'System Settings' - Appearance. You can launch System  Settings from 'K
  Menu- System- System Settings'

Its really strange if you don't have this. What kind of menu do you get when 
you click on the K Menu ? There are two types. The regular one (Classic) and 
the new 'Kickoff' style menu. If its the new menu, there will be a search 
field in it and you can type 'System Settings' there to get the option. 

Which OS are you using ? I am using a regular KDE installation on Arch Linux. 

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux User Group in College of Engineering,Trivandrum (CET)

2009-02-08 Thread Yadu Nand
Thank you very much sir,

 We have already met with the Dr.Gopakumar  (HOD ECE dept), and Dr. Baiju
sir,
 we will meet with Anil Lal sir as soon as possible...

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[fsug-tvm] GNU/Linux circa 2000

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S


Take a look at this if you want to see how GNU/Linux was in 2000. It 
definitely has come a long way .

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/archives-best-distros-2000


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[fsug-tvm] Re: kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Shino Jacob

I have some thing like vista menu, this is KDE 4, not 4.2

i use ubuntu,  I still not fully  liking this kde, too big icons in the desktop
which open in a single click
I installed kcontrol, so icould find what you said. eventhough i
changed  themes look and feels remains the same.
initially i was not able to set desktops more than two, but some how i
corrected it.
 strange enough when installed kde for the first time , certain things
didnt work. but when i reinstalled it ,  its working.
i dont like that java swing look and feel  really dont.

now how do i change the menu style ? using kcontrol?

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  : Right click - 'Appearance Settings' and choosing plasma themes there
 On the desktop

  'System Settings' - Appearance. You can launch System  Settings from 'K
  Menu- System- System Settings'

 Its really strange if you don't have this. What kind of menu do you get when
 you click on the K Menu ? There are two types. The regular one (Classic) and
 the new 'Kickoff' style menu. If its the new menu, there will be a search
 field in it and you can type 'System Settings' there to get the option.

 Which OS are you using ? I am using a regular KDE installation on Arch Linux.

 




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[fsug-tvm] Re: Fedora Installation Manual

2009-02-08 Thread BINNY THOMAS

Sorry about Ubuntu comung in Fedora I guess i got careless, Besides I
had a little trouble during insatallation of Fedora. I like Ubuntu
more

Regards
Binny


On 2/8/09, BINNY THOMAS binn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes I will do that

 Regards
 Binny


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 On Sunday 08 February 2009 17:15:49 P T Ashraf wrote:
 Don't repeat same tasks many times with different format.Find out new
 one.

 Installation of Fedora and Ubuntu are different. We do need manuals for
 both.
 It is true that more information about post install setup need to be
 included
 in such manuals, but that doesn't nullify the efforts put into these
 manuals.
 We should be encouraging efforts like this and try to give constructive
 comments . Lack of documentation is something that keeps people from
 trying
 Free Operating Systems, though now the situation has changed a lot.

 Check : http://osnews.com/story/20932/Ubuntu_Helpsies_Book_a_Hit

 @Binny it would be nicer to have documentation about post install tasks.

 



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[fsug-tvm] Re: kde look and feel

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S

Why dont you upgrade to KDE 4.2 ? 4.0 was a release that announced that the 
new KDE is here. It is very buggy and its better to use GNOME than go with KDE 
4.

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[fsug-tvm] [FSF] Send comments to the IETF opposing TLS-authz standard by February 11, 2009

2009-02-08 Thread Ashik S


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Subject: [FSF] Send comments to the IETF opposing TLS-authz standard by 
February 11, 2009
Date: Sunday 08 February 2009
From: Peter Brown pet...@fsf.org
To: info-...@gnu.org, info-mem...@fsf.org

From: http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard

Last January, the Free Software Foundation issued an alert to efforts at
the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) to sneak a patent-encumbered
standard for TLS authorization through a back-door approval process
that was referenced as experimental or informational.  The many
comments sent to IETF at that time alerted committee members to this
attempt and successfully prevented the standard gaining approval.

Unfortunately, attempts to push through this standard have been renewed
and become more of a threat.  The proposal now at the IETF has a changed
status from experimental to proposed standard. The FSF is again
issuing an alert and request for comments to be sent urgently and prior
to the February 11 deadline to: i...@ietf.org

Please include us in your message by a CC to campai...@fsf.org

That patent in question is claimed by RedPhone Security.  RedPhone has
given a license to anyone who implements the protocol, but they still
threaten to sue anyone that uses it.

If our voice is strong enough, the IETF will not approve this standard
on any level unless the patent threat is removed entirely with a
royalty-free license for all users.


Further background for your comment:

Much of the communication on the Internet happens between computers
according to standards that define common languages.  If we are going to
live in a free world using free software,  our software must be allowed
to speak these languages.

Unfortunately, discussions about possible new standards are tempting
opportunities for people who would prefer to profit by extending
proprietary control over our communities. If someone holds a software
patent on a technique that a programmer or user has to use in order to
make use of a standard, then no one is free without getting permission
from and paying the patent holder. If we are not careful, standards can
become major barriers to computer users having and exercising their freedom.

We depend on organizations like the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF) and the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) to evaluate
new proposals for standards and make sure that they are not encumbered
by patents or any other sort of restriction that would prevent free
software users and programmers from participating in the world they define.

In February 2006, a standard for TLS authorization was introduced in
the IETF for consideration. Very late in the discussion, a company
called RedPhone Security disclosed (this disclosure has subsequently
been unpublished from the IETF website) that they applied for a patent
which would need to be licensed to anyone wanting to practice the
standard. After this disclosure, the proposal was rejected.

Despite claims that RedPhone have offered a license for implementation
of this protocol, users of this protocol would still be threatened by
the patent. The IETF should continue to oppose this standard until
RedPhone provide a royalty-free license for all users.


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[fsug-tvm] Re: Easy way to download video from Youtube

2009-02-08 Thread Junise Safvan
my friend Alvin george has written a beautiful one line script to download
flash videos played firefox

create a folder named *flv *in the home folder.

copy the attached file to home folder or anywhere...

make it executable (u can use command *chmod u+x flvcopy2*)

just execute *./flvcopy2 *to copy the flash files to ~/flv folder

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 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM, mahesh chelen maheshche...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Flash videos can also be downloaded by firefox addon: DownloadHelper.

 Firefox addon is a good one. You can download youtube videos and
 similar ones and have them converted directly to avi or any other
 format.

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Description: Binary data


[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread Saral Sasidharan
Hi Ashik

I am interested in knowing how to remove a program from start up  not
causing any trouble to the system
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[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread ashik salahudeen

Once again , whether it is to remove the program from your Session
startup ( startup _after_ you login ) or to remove it from the OS
startup ?

check this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Picture Viewer

2009-02-08 Thread Joju Joshua

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   I am using Ubuntu 8.10 in my laptop lenovo
 3000n200.When iam trying to open photos in picture viewer pics are not
 opening pls help me solve this problem. thanks. joody christopher.


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[fsug-tvm] Re: Fwd: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Swathanthra Software Sangamam

2009-02-08 Thread sahani r
hello ALL,
I wish all success for the Swathanthra Software Sangamam
regards
sahani


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 From: Sameer Mohamed Thahir sameer.tha...@gmail.com
 Date: 2009/2/4
 Subject: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Swathanthra Software Sangamam
 To: This List discusses GNU/Linux  GNU, GPL Software
 mailingl...@ilug-cochin.org


 Hello All,

 All of you are aware of the ILUG Cochin's initiatives to
 bring the teachers closer to the Free Software Community.

 Although things are moving at snails pace, our last two
 meetings have helped us interact with few teachers and
 set our goals for our campaign.

 This campaign has 3 primary objectives :
 - Enlighten teachers about the true concept of Free Software and
 how it can create a new generation of students with core social
 values and technical abilities.
 - Provide Support to teachers for the Free Software Implementation
 in Schools, the aim is make teachers self reliant.
 - Help Students to explore the possibilities of Free Software
 outside the academics.

 We take our campaign one step forward by organizing an event
 in assosciation with the Vocational Higher Secondary School Irimpanam
 http://vhssirimpanam.org/


 Swathanthra Software Sangamam

 - One Day Programme for students and teachers
 - Session on  The significance of the Free Software Movement 
 by Jay Jacob.
 - Blender Workshop by Zadeek
 - Inkscape Workshop by Sreenadh
 - Interaction between Teachers and ILUG Cochin Community.

 Date : 10/02/2009
 Time : 10:00 - 16:00
 Location: VHSS Irimpanam, Near Thripunithura.

 This programme marks a very important chapter in the activities
 of ILUG Cochin.

 All are cordially invited to this event.

 Members of the ILUG Cochin community need to make this event a
 grand success.

 Thank You

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Sugessions for improving Activity

2009-02-08 Thread Joju Joshua

I believe Nair sir copied the link to the message from his inbox.

Please check the below link:
http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/1f884a7263f5e68b#

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[fsug-tvm] Re: ubuntu startup program

2009-02-08 Thread Saral Sasidharan
Ashik
from os start up it's taking a lot of time for boot up as i configured many
servers in my system which i don't want to uninstall

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