[Ilugc] time

2008-05-22 Thread arunvelusamy
Hi,

??? I was checking how much time for one my script takes.? I used 'time' 
command.? The output looks like,

real??? 162m40.158s
user??? 58m26.235s
sys 2m35.222s


Can i know what these three are?? Which is the total execution time, time 
excluding IO operations etc...

Thanks,
Arun Velusamy.
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Re: [Ilugc] Effect of strace

2008-05-22 Thread Shuveb Hussain
Hi,

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Deepak Pandian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am wondered whether running a  application with strace will make it
 behave differently.


Forget strace. I have come across programs/device drivers that will stop
working once you remove print{f|k}s added for debugging! Various delays can
make a program work well. Is your program using a device driver you know
might be faulty? Try GDB, my friend.

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Re: [Ilugc] time

2008-05-22 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
On Thu, 22 May 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was checking how much time for one my script takes.? I used
 'time' command.? The output looks like,

Read man time OR info time

Bye :)
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[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (SHUTDOWN)

2008-05-22 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
One Day One GNU/Linux Command
=

Warning: Don't try this in the production/server machines.

shutdown -- Bring the system down (Need Root privilege)

Summary: 

shutdown brings the system down in a secure way.  All logged-in users
are notified that the system is going down, and login is blocked. All
processes are 1st notified that the system is going down by the signal
SIGTERM. Runlevel 0 is used to halt the system, runlevel 6 is used to
reboot the system.

Examples:

# shutdown 12:00 -- Shutdown at 12:00

# shutdown +10 -- Shutdown after 10min

# shutdown now -- Immediate shutdown (now == +0)

# shutdown -t 10 -- Wait 10 Sec after warn the user

# shutdown -k  -- Don't really shutdown; only warn

# shutdown -r -t 5 -- Reboot after shutdown

# shutdown -h -t 5 -- Halt after shutdown

# shutdown -f now -- Skip fsck (File System Check) on reboot

# shutdown -F now -- Force fsck on reboot

# shutdown -c -- Cancel the already waiting shutdown process.

Read: man shutdown

HTH :)
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Re: [Ilugc] tape drive configuration

2008-05-22 Thread Dhana sekar
Hi,

   It seems that the BIOS is not supporting this device .   You might need
to flash/upgrade the BIOS / some configuration needs to be done in the
BIOS.  Check with  the H/W vendor.

   In the meantime, could you please tell me the Hardware Specification,
BIOS Version, linux kernel, dmesg and, lspci output.



Dhanasekar N
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Re: [Ilugc] time

2008-05-22 Thread arunvelusamy




 real??? 162m40.158s

Wall clock time  - actual time elapsed

 user??? 58m26.235s

Time the program spent computing. Or in so called 'user-space'


 sys 2m35.222s

Time the kernel spent on the program, trying to do I/O, for example



Thanks for the answer.? If my script takes 162m total time, out of which 
computing time is 58m and IO operation in 2m.? Then what might be the reasons 
that takes remaining 102m of my script time?? 

FYI, it is a perl script doing some report generation from data in mysql db.


Thanks,
Arun Velusamy.
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Re: [Ilugc] time

2008-05-22 Thread Dhana sekar
That will be the Waiting time since the processes are running in round-robin
fashion and IO wait operations.
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Re: [Ilugc] tape drive configuration

2008-05-22 Thread Nahalingam N. Kanakavel
Thanks for your reply.


   It seems that the BIOS is not supporting this device .   You might need
 to flash/upgrade the BIOS / some configuration needs to be done in the
 BIOS.  Check with  the H/W vendor.


Checked with the Hardware Vendor. That will not do any harm to the access
of device they said. Error is only related to bootable state of that SCSI
device.

MPT Rom boot  tries to boot from the device. But there is no bootable meduim
or
device is found. So its giving this error.


   In the meantime, could you please tell me the Hardware Specification,
 BIOS Version, linux kernel, dmesg and, lspci output.


H/W specs:
HP Proliant DL385 G2 Rack Server with
HP Smart array p400/512MB BBWC Controller (RAID 5),  146GB x 4 HDD
*Ultra320 SCSI Host Bus Adapter*
*HP 1/8 Ultrium 448 G2 Tape Autoloader*

lspci :
0c:08.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X
Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev c1)

dmesg (truncated):

SCSI subsystem initialized
HP CISS Driver (v 3.6.10)
Fusion MPT base driver 3.04.01
Copyright (c) 1999-2005 LSI Logic Corporation
Fusion MPT SPI Host driver 3.04.01

scsi0 : ioc0: LSI53C1030, FwRev=01032700h, Ports=1, MaxQ=255, IRQ=193
  Vendor: HPModel: Ultrium 2-SCSIRev: S63W
  Type:   Sequential-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
 target0:0:4: Beginning Domain Validation
 target0:0:4: Domain Validation skipping write tests
 target0:0:4: Ending Domain Validation
 target0:0:4: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 64)
  Vendor: HPModel: 1x8 G2 AUTOLDRRev: 1.70
  Type:   Medium Changer ANSI SCSI revision: 05
hda: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1654kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
SCSI Media Changer driver v0.25

ch0: type #1 (mt): 0x0+1 [medium transport]
ch0: type #2 (st): 0x3e9+8 [storage]
ch0: type #3 (ie): 0x0+0 [import/export]
ch0: type #4 (dt): 0x1+1 [data transfer]
ch0: dt 0x1: ID 4, LUN 0, name: HP   Ultrium 2-SCSI   S63W
ch0: INITIALIZE ELEMENT STATUS, may take some time ...
ch0: ... finished
ch 0:0:4:1: Attached scsi changer ch0
Attempting manual resume
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
st: Version 20050830, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
st 0:0:4:0: Attached scsi tape st0
st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 512 B)
st 0:0:4:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 1
ch 0:0:4:1: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 8
--

Linux :
Linux version 2.6.18-4-amd64 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Mon Mar
26 19:17:44 UTC 2007

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Re: [Ilugc] how to check Linux BLOCK size ?

2008-05-22 Thread Prasanna David G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If the block device block size is what you want then the command is

blockdev --getsize64 /dev/hda1

 Here the answer is also in bytes for the device /dev/hda1. Note that
 block-devices usually (always?) work with a sector size of 512-bytes.

Did you mean blockdev --getbsz /dev/hda1 ?

Here is another trick.  Don't know if it will always work.

echo a  test
du -h test

regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] how to check Linux BLOCK size ?

2008-05-22 Thread Prasanna David G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Prasanna David G
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If the block device block size is what you want then the command is

blockdev --getsize64 /dev/hda1

 Here the answer is also in bytes for the device /dev/hda1. Note that
 block-devices usually (always?) work with a sector size of 512-bytes.

 Did you mean blockdev --getbsz /dev/hda1 ?

 Here is another trick.  Don't know if it will always work.

 echo a  test
 du -h test

 regards,
 Prasanna David


Sorry, I didn't notice that you have written device block size.

Prasanna David
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Re: [Ilugc] Effect of strace

2008-05-22 Thread Deepak Pandian
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Forget strace. I have come across programs/device drivers that will stop
 working once you remove print{f|k}s added for debugging! Various delays can
 make a program work well. Is your program using a device driver you know
 might be faulty? Try GDB, my friend.


Thanks for the insight. I have identified and protected a race
condition. Since I am running it on a 8 MB flash system couldnt afford
gdb for it.

Thanks
Deepak
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Re: [Ilugc] RE: requirement for Open Source Web Designer, Web Developer in open web group

2008-05-22 Thread Ravi Jaya
/me wonders if the omission of python was deliberate

 Certainly not, we didn't mentioned it, it mean not we omitted it. !!

cheers

Ravi Jaya
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Re: [Ilugc] Effect of strace

2008-05-22 Thread Shuveb Hussain
Hi,

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Deepak Pandian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Thanks for the insight. I have identified and protected a race
 condition.


No problem. Glad to be of service.


 Since I am running it on a 8 MB flash system couldnt afford
 gdb for it.


Although most of the time the target Flash is pretty restrictive, I usually
have a separate, full fledged target filesystem with GDB et al, mounted over
NFS. And when you have a filesystem with all the tools you need, you
development time comes down unbelievably. My second preference would be to
use gdb-server on the target and gdb itself on a less restrictive host.

Regards,
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B I N A R Y K A R M A
Chennai, India.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: Open Letter to Mammooty

2008-05-22 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 22-May-08, at 9:44 AM, Praveen A wrote:


 Mammootty Fans and
Welfare Association  Microsoft are envisaging the Project.


and apparently it has Mammootty's blessings (last para of reply).  
Maybe you need to write an open letter to Mammooty Fans Association  
showing how it is better to combat computer illiteracy using free  
software.


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http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/



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Re: [Ilugc] RE: requirement for Open Source Web Designer, Web Developer in open web group

2008-05-22 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Ravi Jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 /me wonders if the omission of python was deliberate
 
  Certainly not, we didn't mentioned it, it mean not we omitted it. !!

Alright :) So I assume you'd also like to explore the Catalyst
framework[1] for Perl and YUI[2] :)

Cheers,

  -Suraj

[1] http://catalystframework.org/
[2] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/

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[Ilugc] Call for Developers - Chennailug.org

2008-05-22 Thread balachandar muruganantham
Hi All,

thanks rohan that you pointed out about the chennailug.org spamming. we have
revamped the our website chennailug.org year back i guess.
I would like to get it revamped with fresh wiki pages and other contents.

currently we have *1214* registered users

List of To-Do
1. clean up wiki pages
2. Install spam control for wiki
3. Migrate CivicCRM Drupal to higher versions Drupal if possible(v5.x or v6)

4. Design new Look and Feel for the site
5. Designated people who can maintain about the chennailug events happening
in chennai and update them on the site/wiki accordingly.

Please let me know if any of you interested.

What do i get by doing this?
- you can add yourself in your profile that you are maintaining
chennailug.org community site.
- chennailug.org site will put up the list on the website.
- you gain knowledge about drupal, civicCRM, wiki

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: Open Letter to Mammooty

2008-05-22 Thread Praveen A
2008/5/22 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 22-May-08, at 9:44 AM, Praveen A wrote:

  Mammootty Fans and
 Welfare Association  Microsoft are envisaging the Project.

 and apparently it has Mammootty's blessings (last para of reply). Maybe you
 need to write an open letter to Mammooty Fans Association showing how it is
 better to combat computer illiteracy using free software.

We got clarity of who is doing what. Now we have to talk to the Fans
Association and we can even try to get Mammootty associated with Free
Software if he is sincere about his committment to supporting causes
for social welfare.

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DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
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Re: [Ilugc] Call for Developers - Chennailug.org

2008-05-22 Thread Ravi Jaya
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM, balachandar muruganantham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 thanks rohan that you pointed out about the chennailug.org spamming. we
 have
 revamped the our website chennailug.org year back i guess.
 I would like to get it revamped with fresh wiki pages and other contents.

 currently we have *1214* registered users

 List of To-Do
 1. clean up wiki pages
 2. Install spam control for wiki
 3. Migrate CivicCRM Drupal to higher versions Drupal if possible(v5.x or
 v6)

 4. Design new Look and Feel for the site
 5. Designated people who can maintain about the chennailug events happening
 in chennai and update them on the site/wiki accordingly.


we here are to help you !!

Ravi Jaya
feel the flavour  of freedom

open web group
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Re: [Ilugc] resize / (ext3) with no LVM(2) - using fdisk and ext2online - possible?

2008-05-22 Thread K Sai Kiran
   Balu manyam wrote:

 i already used fdisk - deleted partition 2 - re-added the same with bigger
 size - and then saved  with 'w' - i got the message that the kernel will
 obey the new part table from the next reboot - but that does not seem to be
 true - as it did not happen even after the reboot - I still see the old
 partition table

  

   Fdisk is not the right tool for it.  It only changes the partition..
   doesn't change the file system..  you will require a utility that can also
   dela with filesystem. Parted fits in well for your requirement.

   I havent tried using it before.. Was always lucky to have data on a LVM
   :).

   The man page says it is possible to extend space without destroying data..
   My suggestion is to back-up data before trying this.. I haven tried it
   myself

   But in ur case you have already changed the partition.. so i am not sure
   how this will work.. best way would be to re-create the same partition
   with fdisk.. then use parted.

   how r u checking your filesystem size? df? df displays size based on fs
   properties.. so even if you have a larger partition without extending the
   filesystem.. that would be the case... to confirm check the /proc/ info
   for exact kernel status of the disks...

 i think i should be able to boot the machine  off a CD and do this - but
 just curious if one can do this from a running OS and reboot if need be
  

   Partprobe should force your kernel to read your partition table without
   re-booting..  Never edit partitions for file systems which are already
   mounted. if normal data partitons no re-boot would be required.. if any of
   the system partitions are used, you will require rescue CD.

   Do let us know how u r about to burn ur hands. ;)

   Regards,
   Kiran.
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[Ilugc] my age in this list

2008-05-22 Thread Thiagarajan

dear admin,
Shall i know my age in this age ?
ie, when i joint this list ?


thiagu

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[Ilugc] SimplyMEPIS , is suitable for Me

2008-05-22 Thread Thiagarajan

Dear All,
few days back, while cleaning up my desktop, i got the old version of 
SimplyMepis [ 3.3.1 ] Year 2005 version.


I just installed in 20 min , and i am really happy with its performance. 
i do not know How I missed it.


This is suitable for School Students. This is what actually students are 
expecting at school level.



thiagu

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[Ilugc] [OT] Old Computers, Rs. 14 /- per k.g.

2008-05-22 Thread Thiagarajan

Dear All
As already informed about clearing very old computers from my school 
at salem, i have sold 286, 286, and 486 machines for Rs. 14/- per k.g.
by next week , few PI, PII with 166 MHz, 233 MHz with 16MB , 32MB RAM 
will be sold [ for Rs. 16/- per k.g ? ] .


Few members of this ILUGC contacted me, but all are pre occupied  or 
having some practical difficulties.


Since i am in Salem, Tamil Nadu., i can not send the machines to any 
other place , also , people who need these computer , may not come and 
get it [ no time and not cost effective ].


This is the fact, [ we talk about, re using old computers, give to 
Charity, Environmental Hazard etc.. , but the reality needs more 
planning and hardwork ]


thiagu

note : OR give me any other recomendations.
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