Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: the question is this: 1. Ubuntu has patched the kernel, the patch is available in their repositories under GPL and there is nothing to prevent the maintainers of the kernel from pulling in the patches [From Ubuntu Forums, on a similar question about finding Ubuntu specific patches] You can indeed get the kernel patches, by grabbing the source to the linux kernel. So if you want the kernel source to a 686-based kernel, you would type: sudo apt-get source linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686. This Downloads the source, configs, and patches. The patches can be found in the debian/patches subdirectory of the kernel source directory that gets created upon download. or 2. Ubuntu has patched the kernel and has not made the patches available Indeed all Ubuntu specific patches are available with the Ubuntu Kernel source in the repository and apt-get'able. 3. Ubuntu has only made around a 100 patches to the kernel which they have contributed upstream. The number of patches contributed by Ubuntu Kernel Team to upstream is less and it has been accepted. I also heard from one of the Ubuntu Kernel guys that the patches we do are very less and what Ubuntu Kernel differs from the Linus' is the availability of binary drivers not found in the latter (obviously) in the restricted section. I do not have too much gyan on this, but happen to read this in the response mdz made for Greg's presentation. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
Ravi Jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear All, I am trying to setup a site using moodle in plesk server shared host environment of IIS, When i try to deploy the application throws an exception as follows The 'Data Directory' you specified could not be found or created. Either correct the path or create that directory manually. and it breaks. Moodle uses a data directory that is generally not within the document directory of the web server. In linux it is /var/data/moodle generally. You can always know what your existing data directory is, and also change it by editing the configuration file which can be found in the moodle directory. Did any body faced similar issue before? i like to make a keen note here i already google before posting it, in our list !!! I have couple things need to cleared is the moodle project is alive still ?? since i could'nt see, much activity on moodle group. They are not very active in their IRC channel and even in their in forum their is no much activity in their forums. Yes there is not much activity in the IRC channel. But there are enough resources in the forum. Posting in the forum should always help. I remember that their is somebody working on the moodle form the NRCFOSS at least i like to hear (know) from them. About the current status of the project moodle, whether it is ON or OFF forever... I consult for multiple clients who use moodle, and I don't think moodle is anyway close to 'OFF'. For all I know it is only growing. There are sure others like me who can help you in this list. Hope this mail helps you fix your problem and we will be glad to help you with your further question. -- Antano Solar John Consultant Trainer (Web 2.0,Networks,VOIP) ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Antano Solar John [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ravi Jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear All, I am trying to setup a site using moodle in plesk server shared host environment of IIS, When i try to deploy the application throws an exception as follows The 'Data Directory' you specified could not be found or created. Either correct the path or create that directory manually. and it breaks. Moodle uses a data directory that is generally not within the document directory of the web server. yes i accept it. i followed the same In linux it is /var/data/moodle generally. You can always know what your existing data directory is, and also change it by editing the configuration file which can be found in the moodle directory. i gotta in the installation itself, once it is done then it write everything to the config.php file. Now i need help in completing the installation. Note: my installation environment is W**+IIS+PHP+MySQL+moodle. Their is no option left for me try it in linux server, since the client like to use his exsisting W** plex server. cheers Ravi Jaya ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
On Monday 29 Sep 2008 1:15:43 pm Ravi Jaya wrote: Note: my installation environment is W**+IIS+PHP+MySQL+moodle. Their is no option left for me try it in linux serve why not contact chennai WUG for help? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 Sep 2008 1:15:43 pm Ravi Jaya wrote: Note: my installation environment is W**+IIS+PHP+MySQL+moodle. Their is no option left for me try it in linux serve why not contact chennai WUG for help? I think Ravi Jaya would have raised this query in an assumption that guyz at lug will support FLOSS tools(PHP+MySQL+moodle).Ravi, are you reading this atleast ?.. Your comments please... Cheers, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
Ravi Jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i gotta in the installation itself, once it is done then it write everything to the config.php file. Now i need help in completing the installation. Note: my installation environment is W**+IIS+PHP+MySQL+moodle. Their is no option left for me try it in linux server, since the client like to use his exsisting W** plex server. I don't think what web server or OS you use should make any difference at all. I am more interested in the technology and how things work than what tools you prefer. As long as your webserver can run php and mysql it is perfectly fine. As I mentioned earlier there is data directory that is generally outside the document root and it is good that you are aware of it. Now the next step of action will be to make that data directory accessible to the web server. That is the web server should have read and write permissions to that specific folder. After you make the necessary changes to the permissions if there are still issues, kindly post again. -- Antano Solar John Consultant Trainer (Web 2.0,Networks,VOIP) ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: help regarding moodle setup
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:58 AM, தியாகராஜன் [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 Sep 2008 1:15:43 pm Ravi Jaya wrote: Note: my installation environment is W**+IIS+PHP+MySQL+moodle. Their is no option left for me try it in linux serve why not contact chennai WUG for help? I think Ravi Jaya would have raised this query in an assumption that guyz at lug will support FLOSS tools(PHP+MySQL+moodle). Ravi, are you reading this atleast ?.. Your comments please... yes BOSS ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[ILUGC] : WC equivalent
While working with find command I bumped into the equivalence of wc -l find . -type d -maxdepth 1 But with the find command the current directory, ., is also listed. -- regards Ramanathan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (obviously) in the restricted section. I do not have too much gyan on this, but happen to read this in the response mdz made for Greg's presentation. For people who are wondering what or who this mdz is. Here goes the link. http://mdzlog.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/greg-kh-linux-ecosystem/ Cheers! Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Students Project - suggestions
I understand that many colleges are asking / allowing the students to project in the college itself. Of course, many students have their own systems and tend to work from them. Some of the issues : a) installation of the distro and the relevant additional packages. -- while it is desirable to let the students do it themselves, a helping hand / guidance could be useful if the immediate goal is to get the project going. [as Parthan pointed out, the last minute rush will be there.] b) official letters / certificates : colleges generally need that from the guiding agency (for project acceptance, attendance and completion) LinuXpert Systems, Linus Academy and other established setups could issue one. NRCFOSS could provide the platform for unattached mentors (if they desire it). c) While the students are enthusiastic, there may be some resistance at the college level for FOSS projects. Even in one FOSS enabled college, some students were discouraged. We could do something about it -- using official / personal channels. d) Publicity helps. Can we have a list of successfully completed FOSS student projects. NRCFOSS, of course, has a vested interest in publicising this list. An official letter could also be written to all the principals / HoDs highlighting the availability of FOSS projects and the support offered by ILUG-C. e) Evaluation Certificate / Prize I have refrained (for various opeational reasons --as I see them) from proposing Prizes for student projects at NRCFOSS. But ILUG-C can announce a schema. NRCFOSS (and/or others) could provide the funds. There can also be issues like monitoring the students regularly, helping them with bandwidths for heavy downloads, etc. We have to be realise that students might not respond with the same enthusiasm / effort / basic knowledge. option 1 : offer project ideas, mentor services to everyone who is regularly responding (with work or more queries !!),. be prepared that a sizeable number will drop out. option 2 : use some criterion (more on commitment than on top of the class variety) to identify student groups, attach atleast one LUG member as godfather (any godmother??) and get things going. Srinivasan (NRCFOSS). ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] BOSSes --- any answers?
Hello, I saw the following post about BOSS: http://appaji.livejournal.com/57904.html The GPL and similar licenses do allow you to copy and use as you see fit so I would not be in a position to deny that freedom. However, plagiarism smells bad... Looks like someone did not want to work on the documentation --- at least in English. The following way of presenting the FAQ would have been satisfactory. The BOSS team have been working hard at the localisation of Debian software so it can be used in Indian languages. As a result we have not had enough time to work on this FAQ. However, since BOSS is derived from Debian most of the FAQ for that distribution applies equally well to BOSS and so we reproduce it here. Regards, Kapil. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Shrinivasan T [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/9/23 Shrinivasan T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friends. The laptop provided by ELCOT is preloaded with OpenSuse and Ubuntu linux. But most of the people dont know how to use them. They struggle a lot little little things like bluetooth, installing apps, games, etc It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux for all elcot laptop users. It is necessary too. I see more users remove linux and put windows with local service engineers. VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it. It is our responsible thing to urge and train people to use linux. So, please arrange a tutorial day. We can get all the email ids from elcot. Waiting for the Linux Laptop Festival. Friends. We have to do something. I am seeing a lot of students wont find their turbo C, winamp, photoshop, and .NET in their laptop. Banshee, Amarok can be some thing similar to WinAmp Mono is an implementation of .NET in UNIX Probably editor like Anjuta can be installed by default and distributed ? They simply wipe the hard disk and go for windows. There is no userguide or manual. The video tutorial in tamil and english is not compitable with KDE. They search the things in KDE. and finaly go to their pirated os. It is our responsible to do something. We have to arrange for a seminar and publicity it. A userguide may be helpful. How to start? It is a wonderful opportunity. We should not waste it. -- dear, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org http://nagappanal.blogspot.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] BOSSes --- any answers?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, plagiarism smells bad... Looks like someone did not want to work on the documentation --- at least in English. BOSS is a distro full of controversies. Read http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2008/09/03/what-a-waste-of-talent-and-money/ and http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2008/09/10/it-only-gets-funnier/ Regards, Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Invitation to The National Public Meeting on Software Patents
*Please Circulate widely* On behalf of the organizers, Free Software Users Group- Bangalore cordially invites you to The National Public Meeting on Software Patents ==Venue== 2nd Floor, Ecumenical Resource Centre, United Theological College, Millers Road, Benson Town. (Behind Cantonment Railway Station) Bangalore–560046 ==Time== 10:00–17:00 Saturday, October 4, 2008 Software patents in India occupy a contentious and indeterminate legal space. While recent amendments to the Patent Act have sought to bring our law in conformity with WTO-mandated standards, these amendments have shied from pronouncing conclusively on the patentability of software. The result is an equivocation in the law which is being wrestled aggressively and effectively by corporate interests, patent attorneys and the Patent Office in favour of granting software patents. Unheard, and so unrepresented in this powerful triad are the interests of millions of citizen-consumers who are either presumed too ignorant to be credited with a view on the issue, or are presumed to be irrelevant to the determination of issues which are seen as purely business matters (as opposed to citizen matters). Software is everywhere you look (and many places you never think of looking). With the explosion of low-cost computing devices (think mobile phones and iPods), software has leaked out of its traditional home—the PC—and begun infiltrating various aspects of our lives. From traffic signals to toilet commodes in some countries, refrigerators to railway tickets, vacuum cleaners and electronic voting machines, TVs, refrigerators and electronic pacemakers, inanimate objects of all sizes are humming to themselves, chattering amongst themselves in an intricate, highly complex tongue called 'software' that few of us can ever hope to understand. On the impulses of software, we stop or move on streets, fill up on petrol, and elect governments. Someone's heart beats. Someone else receives land records on a village kiosk. Someone is standing by helplessly for fourteen years (the un-evergreened term of a patent) because software failed to factor in her disability. There are big stakes involved in the control of software in an era when software is becoming increasingly central to the way we humans organize our lives and inhabit a democracy. At one level this is about preserving the right of agency and self-direction that citizens have in their own lives. At another, it is about the right not to be silenced when our long-fought democratic republic is at risk of being diminished by a few lines of software in a machine. Whether or not we are all in fact capable of deciphering software is inessential. Those of us who are ought not to be denied the freedom to interrogate, tinker and improve. Patents have the effect of adding an additional layer of 'protection' to already existing copyright protection of software, while simultaneously overriding the various affordances and safeguards built into copyright law. For instance, the right of fair dealing under copyright law permits users to examine and modify any software in order to make it interoperable with other software. This is an extremely potent right that reasserts our right to intervene in the shaping of our surroundings. It is also one of the rights that is most imperiled by software patents. The present public hearing on software patents is an invitation for dialogue on the various issue surrounding software patents. Although the Patent Office had scheduled a public consultation on its Draft Patent Manual to be held in Bangalore in August this year, that meeting was abruptly cancelled (or postponed indefinitely, or to an unannounced date—we can't be sure) without any reasons having been assigned by the Patent Office. This signals either of two unpleasant scenarios: first, the Patent Office is proceeding with its consultations in an extremely mechanical fashion, not intending inputs received in the course of these consultations to qualitatively impact their functioning in any way; or secondly, perhaps the Patent Office underestimates the amount that citizens living in the IT capital of India might have to say on the subject of software patents. It is our attempt in this public hearing to organize the kind of consultation that the Indian Patent Office ought to have conducted. We hope also hereby, to serve as a gentle but firm reminder to the Patent Office that its task is as yet undone. ==Agenda== 1000–1100 Presentation on the principles of patent law and software patents Sudhir Krishnaswamy (National Law School) Prabir Purkayastha (Delhi Science Forum) Nagarjuna G. (Free Software Foundation of India) 1100–1130 Discussion on software patents in the Indian context: Indian Patent Act, and the draft patent manual Prashant Iyengar (Alternative Law Forum) Venkatesh Hariharan (Red Hat) 1130–1150 Tea break 1150–1240 Discussion on patents and the development sector
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the point of having testers when the benefit is not passed on upstream to benefit everyone? That is the critical point in Greg's talk. Ubuntu efforts benefit Ubuntu. They are not close source, but unlike the rest of the free software world, they make no effort to feed any changes back upstream. Now am sure a lightning is gonna strike you and you gonna become green as a toad!! Have you contributed to Ubuntu? or aware of the development/bug-reporting process in Ubuntu? If not, then let me summarize for you : It clearly says that a bug found in upstream can either be fixed by the developer or be passed upstream - and i personally have done this and also know that along with me thousand others do the same. This is an unfortunate situation in the FOSS world - consolidation and cooperation is something that the FOSS world lacks - attacking different schools of development should be refrained from and the best teachings of all schools should be nurtured(as what Kapil referred to) and cultivated. I am waiting for a true-next-generation OS that would be a mix(+advanced) of the present OS'es and give it for free. A similar behaviour oft seen is the attack on M$ : lets learn from them and also assimilate the best of it in our thought process. M$ rocks for various other reasons and we should truly appreciate(if not respect) them. Venkat ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
2008/9/29 Sri Ramadoss M [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It gave the chance of Live CD for some one who is scared that trying GNU/ Linux distros will crash their Hard disks This is one of the examples of not giving credit to others for their contributions and think Ubuntu did everything in one day. LiveCDs were out many years before Ubuntu even started. Knoppix and many other live CDs were popular. One of the biggest reasons for Ubuntu is the availability of Free CDs, at least in India and many of the countries were broadband is not widely available. I agree Ubuntu has done good contributions to the community and not belittling their efforts, but I would recommend it only when they start recognising and crediting work done by other communities and play by the same rules of the community. Like pushing changes upstream, developing tools with Free Software community ... One of the most prominent examples of Ubuntu's behaviour is with respect to translations. Ubuntu forks translations and any improvement made to it are available only to Ubuntu. What every distro does is push changes upstream so that every one in the community benefits as opposed to Ubuntu's - take it if you want, we don't care about the rest - attitude. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 06:39:59AM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: Have you contributed to Ubuntu? or aware of the development/bug-reporting process in Ubuntu? If not, then let me summarize for you : It clearly says that a bug found in upstream can either be fixed by the developer or be passed upstream - and i personally have done this and also know that along with me thousand others do the same. I really think that should not be or but and. Isn't it the responsibility of a maintainer to ensure that, for the greater good of the greater number, they should always forward the patch upstream? This is an unfortunate situation in the FOSS world - consolidation and cooperation is something that the FOSS world lacks - attacking different schools of development should be refrained from and the best teachings of all schools should be nurtured(as what Kapil referred to) and cultivated. I am waiting for a true-next-generation OS that would be a mix(+advanced) of the present OS'es and give it for free. From what I can gather, people are only criticising the fact that a little more proactiveness on the part of the Ubuntu maintainer could help a lot. Thanks. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
Hello, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Venkatraman S wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ubuntu efforts benefit Ubuntu. They are not close source, but unlike the rest of the free software world, they make no effort to feed any changes back upstream. Now am sure a lightning is gonna strike you and you gonna become green as a toad!! Have you contributed to Ubuntu? I don't think this is the right question to ask Manoj who contributes (a lot) to Debian which _is_ upstream for various packages in Ubuntu. I am waiting for a true-next-generation OS that would be a mix(+advanced) of the present OS'es and give it for free. Why wait? Start writing it! :-) To get to your other points. There should be honest criticism of all FOSS activities --- this could include expressing animosity where it is heartfelt.[1] That is what the O stands for. Trolling is the only really pointless activity! Regards, Kapil. [1] Alternatively, one could use various techniques to reduce one's blood pressure so that one's heart doesn't feel the animosity! :-) -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Multi part/segment downloader for linux
Is there is any good multi part/segment downloader available for GNU/Linux? -- Thanks Swamy ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [ilugc] Re: Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users
Shrinivasan T wrote: How to start? It is a wonderful opportunity. We should not waste it. Umm.. If you can get hold of a dozen or two of them, or able to get a list of people who bought them, then ask them to come for a LUG meet or arrange one special LUG meet for this purpose and enlighten them, show them what all options they have and how to use them. Even if 10 people turn up, it's worth an effort. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [ilugc] Re: Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users
Hello, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Parthan SR wrote: Shrinivasan T wrote: How to start? It is a wonderful opportunity. We should not waste it. Umm.. If you can get hold of a dozen or two of them, or able to get a list of people who bought them, then ask them to come for a LUG meet or arrange one special LUG meet for this purpose and enlighten them, show them what all options they have and how to use them. Even if 10 people turn up, it's worth an effort. This is a good idea. We should also approach ELCOT to see if they are interested in starting some support channels: * a mailing list * an IRC channel * a wiki Alternatively, if there are people who are willing to put in the work without intervention from ELCOT then they can start such channels. Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Multi part/segment downloader for linux
Hello, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Krishnaswamy Subramanian wrote: Is there is any good multi part/segment downloader available for GNU/Linux? There is wget for which you can specify byte ranges (the server must support it). Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
Venkatraman S wrote: Now am sure a lightning is gonna strike you and you gonna become green as a toad!! Have you contributed to Ubuntu? or aware of the development/bug-reporting process in Ubuntu? LOL. Am sure you haven't done enough homework to know about the one you're throwing that question at. To let you know of the fact, Manoj contributes to Ubuntu's upstream named Debian and hence not only Ubuntu but a lot of other distributions which are fed by Debian makes use of his contribution. If not, then let me summarize for you : It clearly says that a bug found in upstream can either be fixed by the developer or be passed upstream - and i personally have done this and also know that along with me thousand others do the same. Yes, but what we do in launchpad is we mark an upstream bug to our bug so that we can keep in track of upstream improvements on that bug. This doesn't ensure that when a patch is submitted in LP, it is auto-forwarded to the upstream bug tracker (From what I know about bugs and LP). It needs manual effort in filing the same patch to upstream as well and following it up. A few people do this and what Debian guys here mean is more people should come forward and do this, which is absolutely agreeable. There is also a new feature in LP that helps us to monitor bugs which has some relation with upstream, mostly something which needs to be reported upstream and followed up. A very few triagers have started doing this and it will become more helpful if the downstream patches are also filed upstream. This is an unfortunate situation in the FOSS world - consolidation and cooperation is something that the FOSS world lacks - attacking different schools of development should be refrained from and the best teachings of all schools should be nurtured(as what Kapil referred to) and cultivated. I am waiting for a true-next-generation OS that would be a mix(+advanced) of the present OS'es and give it for free. We have always welcomed the criticisms from Debian and that's something which has been always poking Ubuntu to improve. May be someday we will satisfy them enough :) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Elcot Laptop
Hello, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Parthan SR wrote: What about these.. [1] Ubuntu Indian Team Forum - http://ubuntu.techjugaad.com/ [2] Ubuntu Community Forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/ [3] Ubuntu Answers - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Is the installation of Ubuntu on the ELCOT laptop generic enough that the users will _not_ get fobbed off with: your installation is hosed/too non-standard for us to help The groups that you are listed are for Ubuntu specifically. However, if the answer is yes then the best thing one can do is: - to point the ELCOT laptop users to these channels - ensure that someone who is sympathetic to their needs is present in these support channels Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [ilugc] Re: Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: * an IRC channel * a wiki Alternatively, if there are people who are willing to put in the work without intervention from ELCOT then they can start such channels. There is already a registered #ilugchennai channel in irc.freenode.net that none of us use these days. If you people want to use it, feel free to :) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Multi part/segment downloader for linux
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 08:55 +0530, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Hello, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Krishnaswamy Subramanian wrote: Is there is any good multi part/segment downloader available for GNU/Linux? There is wget for which you can specify byte ranges (the server must support it). Regards, Kapil. -- for GUI mode in KDE, you could try kget I find it very useful. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Affordable Business Desktop @ Just Rs. 500/- : http://kalculate.com/piracy.php http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - FOSS award 2008 winner Linux from India http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/24867/news.htm http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: LOL. Am sure you haven't done enough homework to know about the one you're throwing that question at. To let you know of the fact, Manoj contributes to Ubuntu's upstream named Debian and hence not only Ubuntu but a lot of other distributions which are fed by Debian makes use of his contribution. Ooops! Good ..nice to meet you... (so??) If not, then let me summarize for you : It clearly says that a bug found in upstream can either be fixed by the developer or be passed upstream - and i personally have done this and also know that along with me thousand others do the same. Yes, but what we do in launchpad is we mark an upstream bug to our bug so that we can keep in track of upstream improvements on that bug. This doesn't ensure that when a patch is submitted in LP, it is auto-forwarded to the upstream bug tracker (From what I know about bugs and LP). It needs manual effort in filing the same patch to upstream as well and following it up. Who negated this? 'passed' is not 'automatic' but something done by the triager. By the way, came to know abt a probable bug which destroys the hardware/firmware in Intrepid Alpha - source/cause identified? Venkat ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Good Morning Guys !!!!
Reader's, I have plan to setup XEN virtualization in Fedora Core 6. Could some one guide me HOWTO install and before starting what should be known.. (i.e Basic Needs ) plz suggest me .. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Good Morning Guys !!!!
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Dinesh Kumar wrote: NOTE: Don't start new thread, by replying to the already received mail. To ask new doubt, compose a new mail and send it. Give meaningful Subject line to your mail. Don't Say Good morning etc.. I have plan to setup XEN virtualization in Fedora Core 6. Could some one guide me HOWTO install and before starting what should be known.. (i.e Basic Needs ) http://www.ciol.com/content/developer/linux/2007/107042702.asp -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Good Morning Guys !!!!
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Dinesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reader's, I have plan to setup XEN virtualization in Fedora Core 6. Could some one guide me HOWTO install and before starting what should be known.. (i.e Basic Needs ) plz suggest me .. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc For GOD sake, Please learn how to post problem and never ever make such foolish subject headlines -- -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ http://twitter.com/eduvid └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: Canonical Not Great Contributor
On Mon, Sep 29 2008, Venkatraman S wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the point of having testers when the benefit is not passed on upstream to benefit everyone? That is the critical point in Greg's talk. Ubuntu efforts benefit Ubuntu. They are not close source, but unlike the rest of the free software world, they make no effort to feed any changes back upstream. Now am sure a lightning is gonna strike you and you gonna become green as a toad!! Ouch. Have you contributed to Ubuntu? Not directly, no. But Ubuntu has indeed taken some 40+ of my packages (and without make-kpkg and make, they would not be able to build their distribution, so perhaps I have contributed a little bit). or aware of the development/bug-reporting process in Ubuntu? Not really. The point is, I should not have to -- fixes to my code ought to being fed back to me (ucf, kernel-package, etc) -- jut like I feed back changes to my upstream using _their_ preferred means of communications -- that means I use their mailing lists, I use their bug tracking systems, and I separate and rebase changes to their latest release. If not, then let me summarize for you : It clearly says that a bug found in upstream can either be fixed by the developer or be passed upstream - and i personally have done this and also know that along with me thousand others do the same. And why is it that the changes are not reaching me, then? This is an unfortunate situation in the FOSS world - consolidation and cooperation is something that the FOSS world lacks - attacking different schools of development should be refrained from and the best teachings of all schools should be nurtured(as what Kapil referred to) and cultivated. I am waiting for a true-next-generation OS that would be a mix(+advanced) of the present OS'es and give it for free. Well, Debian was trying to be the Universal operating system too. A similar behaviour oft seen is the attack on M$ : lets learn from them and also assimilate the best of it in our thought process. M$ rocks for various other reasons and we should truly appreciate(if not respect) them. I guess we are too far apart in this issue for there to be hope of a reasonable dialog. manoj -- You can't cross a large chasm in two small jumps. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Good Morning Guys !!!!
Thanks for your guidance and advice !!! 2008/9/30 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Dinesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reader's, I have plan to setup XEN virtualization in Fedora Core 6. Could some one guide me HOWTO install and before starting what should be known.. (i.e Basic Needs ) plz suggest me .. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc For GOD sake, Please learn how to post problem and never ever make such foolish subject headlines -- -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ http://twitter.com/eduvid └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] BOSSes --- any answers?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Aanjhan R wrote: However, plagiarism smells bad... Looks like someone did not want to work on the documentation --- at least in English. BOSS is a distro full of controversies. Read http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2008/09/03/what-a-waste-of-talent-and-money/ Controversy is not only with bn_IN. It is also with ta_IN. Already Dr Vasudavan is doing lot of Tamil translation for GNOME. Now CDAC is trying to do that on their own by spending our money and the sad part is, it never go back to the GNOME Repo :( CDAC not released the Good Indian language fonts in FOSS License. So those fonts can not be part of the any FOSS distro. Looks like CDAC needs only the community developed source code and (our tax) money. It never wants to work with Community. Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
