RE: [Ilugc] PPoE frequent disconnection
I am using the same BSNL connection without a single second of disconnection in the past three months. What do you say to that? Your area BSNL divisional manager is good :) I am not trying to complain about BSNL, I have had stable connection with them in the past. But in the recent few days particularly after the rain I get frequent disconnects. BTW, I am staying near KK Nagar and the other colleague stays in choolaimedu which comes under the same division(Kodambakkam). ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:04 AM, தியாகராஜன் [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all counts , Astrology is a science. It was a science. When it was developed it was the most accurate way of predicting paths of celestial objects. But science does not stay static. As new data comes up, theories are updated or discarded . Astrology considers only those objects which are visible to the naked eye. There is no mention of planets outside Saturn, the asteroid belt, the sizeable moons of Jupiter and Saturn and so on. Today astrology is an obsolete model. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct. Or may be our science is not advanced enough to define astrology. The way it can't define mind and soul. And there are something you can't prove. No matter what. Throughout history we've had enough examples of something being considered above understanding and yet human ingenuity eventually grokked it. Today's mystery is tomorrow's science. As Sagan said : Lack of evidence is not the evidence of lack. The exact quote is Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Sagan used it in his book The Demon Haunted World as an example of how some claims are not falsifiable and hence are assumed as truth. He did not mean that even if something lacks evidence, it can be true. -- Regards, Satish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] PPoE frequent disconnection
Sivakumar Gopalan wrote: I am using the same BSNL connection without a single second of disconnection in the past three months. I am not trying to complain about BSNL, I have had stable connection with them in the past. But in the recent few days particularly after the rain I get frequent disconnects. BTW, I am staying near KK Nagar and the other colleague stays in choolaimedu which comes under the same division(Kodambakkam). I am in Virugambakkam (Vembuliamman Koil Exchange) and I also come under the same Kodambakkam division. So, the problem is attributed to one division? Hmm. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Today's mystery is tomorrow's science. Tomorrow there will be newer mysteries, challenging science. Sagan used it in his book The Demon Haunted World as an example of how some claims are not falsifiable and hence are assumed as truth. He did not mean that even if something lacks evidence, it can be true. IMHO, that could be one's perception of what he did not mean. How mature are the means to trace evidences? We live in a 4 dimensional world. And that quote is not to be applied only and only in the situation you mentioned. If otherwise be the case, such wise words would lose significant. And thats is the tragedy of India. We fail to draw the line between superstition and different form of knowledge, astrology in this case. We will embrace it if west validates it. 1000 years of slavery has put us through genetic mutation. Its happening all over India. And we will stop only and only when we become a carbon copy of the west. Sanskrit died. Which otherwise could have been the best language for object based programming. Alas. Haven't learnt anything, wont learn anything. Swapnil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2008 04:22:18 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: தியாகராஜன் wrote: In all counts , Astrology is a science. Nope. http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/astrology.html what does this prove? The only consistent thing about science is that every now and then established proven theories are stood on their head - or proved false. Quotations from scriptures should not be used to prove/disprove things. Exactly. Science is a superior method _because_ it allows for a certain theory to be upturned. That means, at the end of the day, science always respects truth, even if it means it has to be turned on its' head - that is, what scientists previously considered to be established fact. They just discovered new conditions under which the particular phenomenon might not work. Nassim Nicholas Taleb (in his book Fooled by Randomness I suggest everybody pick up a copy) refers to the same example - Astrology and Astronomy are different in the aspect that the latter provides a condition that whatever is being considered fact might be proven wrong by the emergence of a new fact (remember Pluto?). Astrology is a self-contained theory, which provides no room for its' own disproof. And that, NNT says is the difference between actual science and charlatanism. I think he is right. Also, I find it rather strange that none of the supporters of the 'Scientific Method' on this list referred to one of the basic tenets of it - that for something considered to be scientifically proven, it needs to be repeatable under the same conditions. Now, take your favorite pet theory, put it under this scale - is it repeatable? Does it provide conditions where it can be disproved? V. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2008 06:02:00 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: how about belief in God? Are scientists allowed to believe in something that is not proven to exist? Only as a hypothesis with a very low to non existent probability. +1. Also, where's the repeatable aspect? I'll start to believe in gods and ghosts when you can tell me the exact proportion of bribe I have to pay at a temple (or its' equivalent) to get a particular result. And it should be repeatable. I believe religion is a concept invented by humans to be able to deal with randomness. A placebo, or opiate of the masses. Take your pick. Unfortunately, a concept that is too prone to be used for the wrong ends by the wrong people. V. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
I believe religion is a concept invented by humans to be able to deal with randomness. A placebo, or opiate of the masses. Religion is a boundary, it has only taken people apart. It has never been, never intended to be, a bridge. Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
I am more inclined to rely on scientists (186 of them) to define what science is rather than arbitrary definitions by lay-men. Science relies on logic, empirical evidence and independently verifiable claims rather the vague predictions alluded by modern-day astrology. If you believe otherwise, you might as well as believe is fairies. I want no part of such delusions. You have your freedom though. Astrology is blended with facts and stories together over the period of time. In the Kurushetra war on the 13th day after the death of abimanyu , Arjun challenges the Gauravs that he will kill jayantradhan (who stabbed abimanyu from the back) before the following dusk. In the story , it is been told that krishna created a ploy but putting his sudharshana chakra in front of the sun which created a dusk like illusion, jayantradhan appears to see Arjun immolates himself by entering the fire. Krishna takes back the chakra,Arjun kills jayantradhan. The story of krishna's ploy is researched and found that it was a solar eclipse happened on that day, which eventually helps in finding the age of Mahabharata Bharatha yuda. IMO, I do have reservations in beleif's. Comparing Modern day science and the Vedic Astrology which spans a vast amount of time. It was indeed blended with lot of stories which are away from the facts to make the subject interesting for the lay men. whether it is substance or substance less is the matter of examination and exploration of the truths in them. Cheers Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Vamsee Kanakala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe religion is a concept invented by humans to be able to deal with randomness. A placebo, or opiate of the masses. Take your pick. Unfortunately, a concept that is too prone to be used for the wrong ends by the wrong people. +1. EXACTLY Right. Religion (IMHO) is a doctrine - a set of rules laid down by humans. 'God' is a by-product of it. I would go on and say that 'God' is a symbolism. There are more ppl around who are more experienced who can talk about this aspect in greater detail, but to keep things short (and i might be abrasive here)- 'God' is a SuperMan to inculcate some virtues in humans - a SuperMan who is cruel and also nice - this is just symbolism. Idol worship for that matter give a 'materialistic' view to this aspect of SuperMan and make him more 'accessible' by humans. Religion ,to me, is a beautiful thing; and i cannot phrase it as i strongly opine that it is a 'feeling'. [http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com/2008/03/essay-1-illusion-of-choice.html ] Venkat Blog @ http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Religion is a boundary, it has only taken people apart. It has never been,
never intended to be, a bridge.
-1. Nope.
Humans decide what 'religion' is. Religion is a label - Hindu, Islam, etc
etc are mere labels - they denote each school of thought. A religion was
conceived by a set of people - it was conceived to be their doctrine -
something that they should follow as part of life and hence they needed a
SuperMan('God') whom they could trust in(again, an object of their own
imagination).
And it is very much normal to have clashes between different school of
thoughts - and i truly support and advocate a debate between different
schools of thoughts - though think that it goes against the funda of
religion (which was supposed to be set-of-rules followed) by a group of ppl,
and hence this debate would be sheer waste of time.
What you are talking about is 'misunderstood-fundamentalism' - which is
sheer insanity.
Venkat
Blog @ http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com
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Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Venkatraman S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Religion is a boundary, it has only taken people apart. It has never
been,
never intended to be, a bridge.
-1. Nope.
Humans decide what 'religion' is. Religion is a label - Hindu, Islam, etc
etc are mere labels - they denote each school of thought. A religion was
conceived by a set of people - it was conceived to be their doctrine -
something that they should follow as part of life and hence they needed a
SuperMan('God') whom they could trust in(again, an object of their own
imagination).
And it is very much normal to have clashes between different school of
thoughts - and i truly support and advocate a debate between different
schools of thoughts - though think that it goes against the funda of
religion (which was supposed to be set-of-rules followed) by a group of
ppl,
and hence this debate would be sheer waste of time.
What you are talking about is 'misunderstood-fundamentalism' - which is
sheer insanity.
All this happened a a consequences of an act of seeking truth man when
couldent find the truth he made it up like we do in our exams ;)
--
your caring/loving/sincere/oyoyoy[select it urself]
swamynathan.
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Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Roshan Mathews wrote: When you heathens burn in hell, the rest of us will laugh our way to the promised land, will point fingers at you all too. Ha! Heh. Probably this totally does not belong here, but I tell my religious female friends - if I'm going to hell, I'm totally looking forward to it, coz I can finally meet some bad girls :p V. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Humans decide what 'religion' is. Religion is a label - Hindu, Islam, etc
etc are mere labels - they denote each school of thought. A religion was
conceived by a set of people - it was conceived to be their doctrine -
something that they should follow as part of life and hence they needed a
SuperMan('God') whom they could trust in(again, an object of their own
imagination).
Religious leaders dream of control in a society. It's only power politics.
And it is very much normal to have clashes between different school of
thoughts - and i truly support and advocate a debate between different
schools of thoughts - though think that it goes against the funda of
religion (which was supposed to be set-of-rules followed) by a group of
ppl,
and hence this debate would be sheer waste of time.
There actually is no 'debate', its struggle to prove my religion is better
than yours. That has always been and crusades are not to make this world a
better place, but hell. There are two school of thoughts in FOSS -- GNOME n
KDE (and many more), but we don't fight. We work towards better integration
and in the end offer user the best experience. What if GNOME becomes a
religion? All non-GNOME will be barred from participating in the activities
of GNOME. They will draw lines, dig drifts.
Religion simply sucks.
What you are talking about is 'misunderstood-fundamentalism' - which is
sheer insanity.
No, I am not, I am very clear about fatality of religion, coz it divides.
Swapnil
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Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:34 AM, தியாகராஜன் [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree to that fact that to just count astrology as a superficial prediction practice.While Vedic astrology had astronomy, samhita and hora,till this day ,indian astrology holds the components what are mentioned in the Vedic astrology. Astrology is one among the six Angas of Vedas. Siksa (Phonetics); Vyakarana (grammar); Nirukta (lexicon, etymology); Kalpa (manual of rituals); Chandas (prosody); Jyotisa (astronomy-astrology) Please read Panini for Grammer, Vidayaranyar for Veda Bashya, relevant Jyothisa texts before commenting. And Ubuntu Tamil Team, is need of Astrologer who is well versed in algorithms of how year and days are arrived at. We have Hebrew Calendar, Arabic Calendar, Gregorian Calendar in both GNOME and KDE but yet to fit Indian Calendar to it. If Astrologers find they are with GNU/ Linux they will also embrace Free Software and ask their followers to adopt Free Software :-) We need to provide both Valluvar Era and Chithirai Puthandu and leave the option to people to choose. Not a quarrel on this at least here. Any Student willing to do this as project? Any one else can help? -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Sri Ramadoss M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Astrology is one among the six Angas of Vedas. Siksa (Phonetics); Vyakarana (grammar); Nirukta (lexicon, etymology); Kalpa (manual of rituals); Chandas (prosody); Jyotisa (astronomy-astrology) Once again referring to the book I quoted earlier in this thread , 'vedanga jyotisa does not contain a single sentence relating to astrology or prediction. - it is entirely a practical manual of timekeeping ..' 'neither are there references to astrology in any of the works of Aryabhatta, Bhaskara, Varahamihira, Madhava.' ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Mano wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram http://ckraju.net/IndianCalculus/book_details.htm#Part%20I Ramanujan never knew and was actually bemused by the western notion of 'proof'. However, eventually he had to change to suit the establishment - which was much after he had made most of his discoveries. Scientists can be sceptical but they are willing to change their mind. That is key to progress. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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When will this non-sense stop? In what way ILUGC concerned with all the spam mails posted under this topic.. Why I should bother whose female friends goes to hell or whose astrology is better, where planets are visibile/not visible. If anybody wants to continue this ilugc - irrelevant discussion I wish they start separate mailing list. At this rate of spam mails I am inclined to un-subscribe this. The funniest this is this is not marked OT. Raman.P Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Raman.P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The funniest this is this is not marked OT. Does marking as OT enable one to play God and spam more!!!??!!! We all sing along we will have more non-lug discussions than more-useful-lug ones. Guys, lets stop this thread. I burn the end of the thread :P Venkat ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Guys, lets stop this thread. I burn the end of the thread :P Topics like , Kamal vs Rajani MGR vs Sivaji A. R.Rehman vs Ilayaraja Veg vs Non-Veg Atheism vs Theism vs Agnostics are all flame -war fodders. Endless arguments with no value to others except the posters.We look upon this forum to solve some real life problems and issues related to Linux , open source and IT. It is a pity that some fanatics use this forum to air their personal opinions on irrelevant topics. Cheers Varadarajan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Any takers for this project?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Raman.P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a project idea as follows: The software should watch my mails from a mailing list. If a thread which doesn't contain Anything relavant to FOSS like linux,open source, ilug, software freedom etc., ( I can give a list of key words to look for) and if thread length exceeds 5 [ a user tunable number] then it temporarily unsubscribes me from list. It should watch the list( by looking at archives), ensure that the no activity is there in the thread atleast for 2 (again tunable) days and reactivate the subscription. Assuming you aren't being sarcastic (in which case, ha-ha you got me!) this can probably be done with a spam filter. Train it on the corpus of the list to be able to be distinguish between OT and ham mails. Then you can just tie that in with your mail setup to delete or mark as spam the OT mails. Subscribing and unsubscribing is not what you want to be doing, you just want to improve the SNR of the lists you subscribe to. This is an interesting project for a student, not a final semester degree project, but a fun hack. You should post your results to the list if you do go through with it. -- Roshan Mathews ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Any takers for this project?
On Sunday 26 October 2008 10:04:34 pm Raman.P wrote: then it temporarily unsubscribes me from list. does mailman have such an option that a user can invoke? Afaik you can unsubscribe and resubscribe - but it means that you lose *all* mails in the interim. It is better for the software to detect OT stuff and dump it into the spam folder. This can be done by finetuning spamassassin, which is in perl anyway. Does not seem enough matter for a fully fleged project - btw, this reply does not contain any of the key words you mentioned ;-) -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Any takers for this project?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kapil Hari Paranjape said the following on Monday 27 October 2008 08:43 AM: Hello, On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Raman.P wrote: I have a project idea as follows: Interesting! The software should watch my mails from a mailing list. If a thread which doesn't contain Anything relavant to FOSS like linux,open source, ilug, software freedom etc., ( I can give a list of key words to look for) and if thread length exceeds 5 [ a user tunable number] then it temporarily unsubscribes me from list. I think that making this automatic may not be easy. After all, if we could do this accurately, then we could also easily identify spam. It should, however, be possible to setup procmail so that you can give it a list of Message-Ids (which identifies threads) and ask it to treat messages which refer to those Message-Ids differently. It is a bit more complex than just filtering mail into various boxes based on headers since you need to store all the Message-Ids of follow-up messages as they come in. So I would suggest an alternate project as follows. Extract a thread from incoming mail using procmail Kapil. Shouldnt this be trivial. As long as you know the message id in advance, or the subject, scan and note the message id for that message and henceforth, if you see that message id in references, write it to a different mail box. Or are you saying, that every thread should be put in a different mailbox. May be i am missing something. :-) - -balaji - -- http://balajin.net/blog http://www.flickr.com/photos/balajijegan/ Getting there is only half as far as getting there and back. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJBThNIar0Rc5ZY40RApU1AJ9KqzeVoKEdqtF62hCBA+whnSyZhgCfb+N+ E7dvV4uKgG7uK9hupfDCkPE= =HXwP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hello, On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Balaji Narayanan wrote: Kapil Hari Paranjape said the following on Monday 27 October 2008 08:43 AM: So I would suggest an alternate project as follows. Extract a thread from incoming mail using procmail Shouldnt this be trivial. As long as you know the message id in advance, or the subject, scan and note the message id for that message and henceforth, if you see that message id in references, write it to a different mail box. You missed something else which I wrote: It is a bit more complex than just filtering mail into various boxes based on headers since you need to store all the Message-Ids of follow-up messages as they come in. The reply may not contain the original Message-Id, it may only contain the Message-Id of the subthread and so on. So you do need to store the Message-Id's of all previous messages in the thread in order to do something special with any new message in the thread. You can extract these Message-Id's with formail. So it is really an exercise in procmail as Girish has said. Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)
Hi, It is extremely important for some one to control the chaos. Agreed!!. This discussion was predominantly focussed whether Astrology is a science or not. Well outwardly it is not connected to anything on a OS or a concept/Phenomenon called FLOSS. Positively, This discussion has made me to understand that there is a need for Ubuntu Tamil Team in making of Indian Calendar system. I was wondering for fine tuning a Floss software called stellarium to have indian astrological values like creation of a birth chart. This discussion given pointers for me in exploring the base question whether Astrology is a science or not.It is not about any fanatic values involved here. I would call upon luggies/student who wish to contribute stellarium , where by we can add Indian astrological tools to the software.This is not my bread winning job, but i would like to mentor people who are interested in doing it. I hope and believe code contributors can understand the substance in my view point. Cheers Thyagarajan Shanmugham Ideas often die not because of starvation but because of indigestion. PS: Stellarium has 88 constellations which are purely based on greek mythology.I believe Stellarium needs localization and some local value property addition. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
