date:20081217

2008/12/18 ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M 

> 2008/12/17 balachandar muruganantham :
> > பயர்பாக்ஸ்க்கான தமிழ் சொல் திருத்தி திட்டம் ஏற்கனவே இருக்கிறது.
> >
> > இங்கே சுட்டவும் -> http://code.google.com/p/tamilspellchecker/
> >
> > நீட்சி தொடுப்பு https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8902
> பாலா,
>
> தாங்கள் சொற் பட்டியலைத் தாண்டி இதனை மேம்படுத்த என்ன திட்டம்
> வைத்திருக்கிறீர்கள் என்று அறியலாமா? சொற் பட்டியல் முதற்படி. தொடர்ந்து
> விகுதி சேரும் போது பிழை சொல்லாது இருப்பது குறித்து (காதல் - காதலால் -
> காதலில் - காதல்கொண்டு ..), சந்திப் பிழை, இலக்கணப் பிழைகள் (அவன்
> நடந்தாள், நாய் கத்தியது...) என இது விரிவடைய வேண்டுமே!



சொற் பட்டியலைத் தாண்டி, இன்னும் எந்த ஏற்பாடும் நடக்கவில்லை. தமிழ்
விக்கிப்பீடியாவிலிருந்து சொற்பட்டியலை சேர்க்கும் முயற்சி நடைபெறுகிறது. இது
சோதனை தருவாயில் உள்ளது.

சந்திப்பிழைகள், இலக்கணப்பிழைகள் செய்ய அதிக நேரம் செலவாகும். அதனை
செயல்படுத்த, நேரம் கிடைக்கும் பொழுது நான் தமிழ் இலக்கணம் பயின்று
வருகிறேன்.சந்திப்பிழைகள், இலக்கண்ப்பிழைகள் கண்டுப்பிடிப்பது அவ்வளவு எளிதல்ல.
அதற்கு நிறைய பங்களிப்பாளர்கள் தேவை.

சொல் திருத்தியின் கூகிள் குழுமத்தில் சேர ஆர்வமுள்ள அனைவரையும் அழைக்கிறேன்.
தொடுப்பு: http://groups.google.com/group/spellchecker

அங்கே, தமி்ழ் நன்றாக தெரிந்தவர்கள், மென்பொருள் பொறியாளர்கள் இருக்கின்றனர்.
நீங்கள் அங்கே சேர்ந்தால், என்ன செய்யலாம் என்று நாம் அனைவரும் ஒன்று கூடி
முடிவெடுத்து வேலைகளை பிரித்து தொடங்கலாம்.

மேலும் பயர்பாக்ஸ்க்கான சொல் திருத்தி திட்டம் பயர்பாக்ஸ் தொழில்நுட்பம் கீழ்
இயங்குகிறது. வார்த்தைகள் சேர்த்தால் போது. அதிக வார்த்தைகள் சேர்ப்பது என்பது
எளிது. இது நிரந்திர தீர்வு அல்ல என்பதை நான் அறிவேன்.
ஆனால் இது ஒரு தற்காலிகமான தீர்வு.

- balachandar muruganantham
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Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (DIALOG)

2008-12-17 Thread Girish Venkatachalam

On 10:03:16 Dec 18, Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
> One Day One GNU/Linux Command 
> =
> 
> dialog -- Show interactive Dialog boxes from shell.
> 
> Summary:
> 
> Dialog is a program that will let you to present a variety of Text
> User Interfaces from the shell script.
> 
> Following interface types are in-build in dialog command (calendar,
> checklist, fselect, gauge, infobox, inputbox, menu, msgbox, password,
> radiolist, tailbox, tailboxbg, textbox, timebox, and yesno).
> 
> Examples:
> 
> $ dialog --title "Hello" --msgbox "Bharathi" 10 20 -- Message box.
> 
> $ dialog --title "Input Box" --inputbox "My Name" 10 20 Bharathi -- 
>   Input Box.
> 
> $ dialog --title "Yes/No" --yesno "Say yes or no" 10 20 -- YesNo box.
> 
> $ dialog --title "Please choose a file" --fselect $HOME/ 20 40 -- File 
>   Select Box.
> 
> $ dialog --title "CAL" --calendar "Set Date" 0 0 1 1 2009 -- Calendar.
> 
> $ dialog --title "TIMEBOX" --timebox "Set Time" 0 0 12 20 40 -- Time
>   Box.
> 
> Read: man dialog  & /usr/share/doc/dialog-XYZ/

This is a really nice tool but if you wish to do nCurses programming
that is hassle free I recommend that you use the perl module for that
from here.

http://search.cpan.org/~mdxi/Curses-UI-0.9605/lib/Curses/UI.pm

I used that recently when I had to do such stuff.

There are also Perl interfaces to the Dialog program itself.

I for some reason picked up the UI module. There are several examples in
the distribution that give some amazing samples.

If you look at them you are sure to like it.

Thanks.

-Girish
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Re: [Ilugc] Blue tooth file share bet'n N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu Laptop.

2008-12-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Dhakshina Moorthy K.M. <
moorthy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Any experience on sharing files between Nokia N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu via
> bluetooth. Relavance to photo share.
>
> There is an opportunity for installing Fed8 / U8.10 on a laptop .
>
> Dhakshina Moorthy, K.M.
>
>
kmobiletools works well in most cases. http://www.kmobiletools.org/
There is also a tiny live CD edition of the same.

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Re: [Ilugc] Blue tooth file share bet'n N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu Laptop.

2008-12-17 Thread siva moorthy

I am not aware of Nokia N97 but i the following steps worked for me..

Step 1:
$ hcitool scan

it will displays the bluetooth phone name and MAC address

Scanning …

00:1F:CC:25:EA:C5Amachu

Step 2:
hidd –connect=00:1F:CC:25:EA:C5

it will now connect to the bluetooth phone

$ su
Password:
[r...@amachu amachu]# sudo hidd –connect=00:1F:CC:25:EA:C5
Connected to 00:1F:CC:25:EA:C5 on channel 2
Press CTRL-C for hangup

Step 3:

Now open File Browser and type the following path in address bar,
obex://[MAC address]

now the bluetooth phone's memory can be accessible…..

obex://[00:1F:CC:25:EA:C5]


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Dhakshina Moorthy K.M. <
moorthy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Any experience on sharing files between Nokia N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu via
> bluetooth. Relavance to photo share.
>
> There is an opportunity for installing Fed8 / U8.10 on a laptop .
>
> Dhakshina Moorthy, K.M.
>
>
>
>
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[Ilugc] Blue tooth file share bet'n N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu Laptop.

2008-12-17 Thread Dhakshina Moorthy K.M.

Any experience on sharing files between Nokia N72 and Fedora / Ubuntu via 
bluetooth. Relavance to photo share.

There is an opportunity for installing Fed8 / U8.10 on a laptop .

Dhakshina Moorthy, K.M.
 



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[Ilugc] [OT]/Commercial - Freelance Linux Trainers / technical support engineers wanted

2008-12-17 Thread LinuXpert Academy

Hi,

Presently we are looking for Freelance Linux Trainers and Technical support 
persons (preferably RHCE certified) to conduct/co-ordinate Linux training 
programme in colleges.  If anyone in this list is interested, they may write to 
me offlist

linuxbas...@gmail.com / opensou...@vsnl.net

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Online Survey on the awareness/usage of Open Source Software and Enterprise 2.0

2008-12-17 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar

Hi,

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Mano  wrote:
> I guess you mean data lock in!!! Privacy itself is of supreme concern in OSS.
>

 I get some doubts here regarding privacy. In GNU/Linux or any
other UNIX, the default file permissions are 755, which means that
anybody who logs into that system can read/execute any of our files.
This means that there is no data privacy by default, unless we change
the umask ? Or am I wrong ?

I feel that OSS's concern is more about data ownership than about
data privacy.

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[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (DIALOG)

2008-12-17 Thread Bharathi Subramanian

One Day One GNU/Linux Command 
=

dialog -- Show interactive Dialog boxes from shell.

Summary:

Dialog is a program that will let you to present a variety of Text
User Interfaces from the shell script.

Following interface types are in-build in dialog command (calendar,
checklist, fselect, gauge, infobox, inputbox, menu, msgbox, password,
radiolist, tailbox, tailboxbg, textbox, timebox, and yesno).

Examples:

$ dialog --title "Hello" --msgbox "Bharathi" 10 20 -- Message box.

$ dialog --title "Input Box" --inputbox "My Name" 10 20 Bharathi -- 
  Input Box.

$ dialog --title "Yes/No" --yesno "Say yes or no" 10 20 -- YesNo box.

$ dialog --title "Please choose a file" --fselect $HOME/ 20 40 -- File 
  Select Box.

$ dialog --title "CAL" --calendar "Set Date" 0 0 1 1 2009 -- Calendar.

$ dialog --title "TIMEBOX" --timebox "Set Time" 0 0 12 20 40 -- Time
  Box.

Read: man dialog  & /usr/share/doc/dialog-XYZ/

HTH :)
--
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[Ilugc] Re: IE flaws and switch to other browsers

2008-12-17 Thread Mohan R

Ashish Verma wrote:
> I don't know how that is happening. All I am doing is clicking on reply and
> typing thats it. And thats what I have been doing earlier too. I am not sure
> why it is coming as top post. Even this message I clicked on reply and am
> typing. How do you reply.

Which way you are accessing your mail? through web? then check for
settings to reply below. If you are using thunderbird, then click,

Edit -> Account Settings -> Composition & Addressing

and check "Automatically quote the original message when replying"
option. Then, select "start my reply below the quote". This is the
default setting in thunderbird.

Thanks,
Mohan.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008/12/17 balachandar muruganantham :
> பயர்பாக்ஸ்க்கான தமிழ் சொல் திருத்தி திட்டம் ஏற்கனவே இருக்கிறது.
>
> இங்கே சுட்டவும் -> http://code.google.com/p/tamilspellchecker/
>
> நீட்சி தொடுப்பு https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8902
பாலா,

தாங்கள் சொற் பட்டியலைத் தாண்டி இதனை மேம்படுத்த என்ன திட்டம்
வைத்திருக்கிறீர்கள் என்று அறியலாமா? சொற் பட்டியல் முதற்படி. தொடர்ந்து
விகுதி சேரும் போது பிழை சொல்லாது இருப்பது குறித்து (காதல் - காதலால் -
காதலில் - காதல்கொண்டு ..), சந்திப் பிழை, இலக்கணப் பிழைகள் (அவன்
நடந்தாள், நாய் கத்தியது...) என இது விரிவடைய வேண்டுமே!

-- 

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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

2008-12-17 Thread kish

They still make IE?
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008-12-17 Thread Arun Khan

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> > looking good, but the whole dialog is in english - should it not be
> > in Tamil?
>
> ஆம் ஆக்கும் போதே தமிழில் செய்யுங்கள். தமிழில் இருந்து ஆங்கிலத்திற்கு
> பின்னர் தேவையாயின் மாற்றிக் கொள்ளலாம்.

[1] Please translate.  The OP started this thread in English.

>
> > One reason why you should have your code in a repository is that
> > you can also have a ticketing system so that we can post
> > suggestions/bugs there. That is how FOSS works.
>
> வரும் வாரம் இது குறித்த கலந்தாய்வு இருக்கிறது. அது சமயம் இது பற்றி
> நிச்சயம் விவாதிக்கலாம்.
>

Please see [1] above

Thanks.
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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:
> So now, the Q'n is does FOSS adhere to formal Engineering 
> practices ?
> If not then for what other one or more reasons we should embrace 
> FOSS ?

http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html
http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

I am not sure how well formal Engineering practices adhere to the
above standards..

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

Hi,


FOSS is not about the processes of creating software.

It is about distributing it,sharing the code and giving rights to users.

And those who dont know anything about SDLC also can contribute to FOSS
development.

We dont want to restrict the developers from solving their own problems.

As FOSS software grow, bugs are fixed and become stable soon.

There is no deadline here for hiding all the bugs and sell it to customer.
Then fix the bugs as service packs.

There is no CMM here. But the bazaar model has achieved more than the
CMM outputs.


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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:
>
> All the above scenarios are just plain depiction without adequate parametric 
> quantification, as such scenarios usually happen in both FOSS projects and 
> non-FOSS projects as they are intrinsic in any development process.
> Any system is said to have good maintenability if its maintenance requirement 
> is nearly-zero ie, maintenance-free (or atleast to the practicaly minimum 
> possible extent). So, FOSS obviously doesn't qualify to have a good 
> maintenability (as wherever we turn our heads we hear about bug-fixing in 
> FOSS).
>

Hmm..

FOSS is all about maitainers.. No owners.. But We have thousands of
mainteners maintaining each and every software that comes with a
Standard distribution..

Its not a easy job.. The amount effort that goes into it.. to make
maintaining an art by itself.. what do think rpm and deb are all
about?

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

2008-12-17 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:
> 2) As in any SDLC workflow (carried out in formal Software Engineering 
> practices),
> a) is there any well-defined documentation available at each stage of 
> project progress, so that
> those documentation would serve for future reference & revisiting 
> at any future point of time.
> b) by the term "documentation" i mean the documents of SRS, Design 
> Specification, Project Plan, Cost-Estimation, Execution 
> Plan, Contingency Plan and so like.
> c) so the point is, when such things get documented, the process by 
> itself would render a blue-print before
> hand the solution is implemented and for this same reason only 
> any formal Engineering level work
> is carried out in that way.

Say, something like : https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox ?

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

2008-12-17 Thread Selvakumar Rajeswaran

Hi,

>I see excellent roadmaps in FOSS projects. And much unlike Microsoft's
>Vista's roadmap, which was expected to release in 2003 and came out in 2006,
>most are almost on track.
I wish the roadmaps that you see are much unlike that of BOSS (given & 
questionably excellently supported by CDAC) too. 

>Also the longest step in any SE process(maintenance) is best applied to FOSS
>since if the lead dev quits, we have either a fork or a set of developers
>taking up
>the same project.(audacious from xmms)
>Testing is comprehensive too.(Alphas, betas, RCs). This is too slightly
>different
>from the Cathedral style since we have nothing to hide from the people here.
>So
>we can involve them more in testing. Testers are always welcome at any
>project.

All the above scenarios are just plain depiction without adequate parametric 
quantification, as such scenarios usually happen in both FOSS projects and 
non-FOSS projects as they are intrinsic in any development process. 
Any system is said to have good maintenability if its maintenance requirement 
is nearly-zero ie, maintenance-free (or atleast to the practicaly minimum 
possible extent). So, FOSS obviously doesn't qualify to have a good 
maintenability (as wherever we turn our heads we hear about bug-fixing in 
FOSS). 

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Re: [Ilugc] Roman to Unicode Font Converter needed

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 10:07:15 pm Mehul Ved wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>
>  wrote:
> > here: it is in these files - I havent looked at them for a long time, but
> > the scripts work - they are released under the KGPL.
>
>  What files? And KGPL?

oops: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/browser/branches/wordnet/workspace

KGPL - KG Public License - use it however you want as long as you do not blame 
me if your server becomes toast.

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Re: [Ilugc] whats the best audio recording hw to have

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 9:31:37 pm swamynathan wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > whats the best audio recoding hardware / software to have on gnu
> > linux...
>
> well on hardware-
> for sruff like this ur internal sound-card will do and is its an nvdia
> chipset , ur blessed
> u can get a decent mic for say 200 rs  that sud do the job if ur sound card
> it good
>
> on software-
> just for recording voice  audacity is good, actually  many underground
> musicians   use  audacity for its  simplicity...

although we are still working on tamil spellcheck, english spellcheck *is* 
available:
sruff - stuff
ur - your
u - you
sud - should
it - is

und so weiter ...

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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

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> I don't know how that is happening. All I am doing is clicking on reply and
> typing thats it. And thats what I have been doing earlier too. I am not
> sure why it is coming as top post. Even this message I clicked on reply and
> am typing. How do you reply.

I work at it. I trim all unwanted stuff. Then move the cursor under the stuff 
I am replying to and type my reply there. I realise that moving a mouse 
cursor takes a considerable amount of effort - but I consider the energy well 
spent as it shows respect for my readers.

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 9:46:57 pm Selvakumar Rajeswaran wrote:
> >I then make a sustained argument from the Linux experience for the
> >proposition that ``Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow'',
>
> The above proposition can be correct, but why then enough eyeballs gather
> at the bug-fixing stage. Instead if they gather right from the solution
> inception & design stage probably the bug-fixing stage might not at all
> exist !!!

because developing software is not like manufacturing a car. You cannot make a 
car with only a vague idea of what the finished product is going to be - and 
if you plan to write software *knowing* what the finished product is going to 
be, you are only fit to work for microsoft.

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Re: [Ilugc] Roman to Unicode Font Converter needed

2008-12-17 Thread Mehul Ved

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> here: it is in these files - I havent looked at them for a long time, but the
> scripts work - they are released under the KGPL.

 What files? And KGPL?

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Re: [Ilugc] whats the best audio recording hw to have

2008-12-17 Thread varadarajan narayanan

> Its time for UbuntuStudio
> http://ubuntustudio.org/
> ஆமாச்சு

Hi !

Very interesting ! Thanks !

Cheers

Varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

2008-12-17 Thread Selvakumar Rajeswaran

Hi,

>I then make a sustained argument from the Linux experience for the
>proposition that ``Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow'',

The above proposition can be correct, but why then enough eyeballs gather at 
the bug-fixing stage. Instead if they gather right from the solution inception 
& design stage probably the bug-fixing stage might not at all exist !!!

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Re: [Ilugc] whats the best audio recording hw to have

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:31 PM, swamynathan  wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) <
> sensu...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> whats the best audio recoding hardware / software to have on gnu
>> linux...
>
>
> well on hardware-
> for sruff like this ur internal sound-card will do and is its an nvdia
> chipset , ur blessed
> u can get a decent mic for say 200 rs  that sud do the job if ur sound card
> it good
>
> on software-
> just for recording voice  audacity is good, actually  many underground
> musicians   use  audacity for its  simplicity...
>
>

Its time for UbuntuStudio

http://ubuntustudio.org/

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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Ashish Verma wrote:

> I don't know how that is happening. All I am doing is clicking on reply and
> typing thats it. And thats what I have been doing earlier too. I am not
> sure
> why it is coming as top post. Even this message I clicked on reply and am
> typing. How do you reply.
>
Press reply. Then delete the stuff you do not need. Retain the lines you
need
Keep the answer below the retained question

eg.
A: Z
Q: Which is the 26th character?
doesn't quite make sense
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Re: [Ilugc] whats the best audio recording hw to have

2008-12-17 Thread swamynathan

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) <
sensu...@cisco.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> whats the best audio recoding hardware / software to have on gnu
> linux...


well on hardware-
for sruff like this ur internal sound-card will do and is its an nvdia
chipset , ur blessed
u can get a decent mic for say 200 rs  that sud do the job if ur sound card
it good

on software-
just for recording voice  audacity is good, actually  many underground
musicians   use  audacity for its  simplicity...



> i intend to record songs of the slum computer children...
>

nice  idea


> based on suggestions from ramadoss..how much does it cost..i intend ogg
> format
>

home recording will cost u  just a mic prise  if ur  sound card is  good



and  for  more   tools i wud recomend you to install  the  distro called
jacklab audio distro
www.*jacklab*.org/





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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

I don't know how that is happening. All I am doing is clicking on reply and
typing thats it. And thats what I have been doing earlier too. I am not sure
why it is coming as top post. Even this message I clicked on reply and am
typing. How do you reply.

Regards,
Ashish

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
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> you top posted again: see under:
>
> On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 6:24:42 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> > I am sorry that happened. Actually I dont know how that happened. I just
> > replied to the last mail in my inbox like I always do. Anyways I don't
> > expect it to happen again.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashish
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 2:20:55 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> > > > The person who sent the below mail wanted to.
> > >
> > > but since you top posted, no one knew *what* you were replying to. If
> you
> > > had
> > > followed list etiquette, quoted the OP and replied under, there would
> > > have been no controversy.
> > >
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Re: [Ilugc] Roman to Unicode Font Converter needed

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 2:30:40 pm Shrinivasan T wrote:
> Nice to hear that you have done a Roman to Unicode Font Converter for
> tamil.
>
> Where can I get it?

here: it is in these files - I havent looked at them for a long time, but the 
scripts work - they are released under the KGPL.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 7:00:31 pm sivaji j.g wrote:
> Hello kenneth thank you for your concern,
>
>  I am part of this project. we were searching nrcfoss website to get the
> list but i couldnt get it.
> (server takes too long to respond) will be thankful, if you give the exact
> link or db-dump

http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/TamilWordnet

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Re: [Ilugc] Learn Embedded Technology From Industry Experts

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rajiv Batra wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> visit http://www.e-nalanda.com to learn  RTOS Fundamentals & Programming
> using µCos, Embedded Linux, 32 Bit ARM Architecture & Programming, WinCE,
> Linux Device Driver (LDD), Embedded C, Operating Systems Fundamentals
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> Linux), C, C++, 8 Bit Microcontroller Architecture...its good
>
> It says "We recommend IE for better results"!!!

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Re: [Ilugc] whats the best audio recording hw to have

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) <
sensu...@cisco.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> whats the best audio recoding hardware / software to have on gnu
> linux...i intend to record songs of the slum computer children...
> based on suggestions from ramadoss..how much does it cost..i intend ogg
> format

Audacity.

If you want to do a little more features as well, I would suggest ardour

Both are free in all senses

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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

you top posted again: see under:

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 6:24:42 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> I am sorry that happened. Actually I dont know how that happened. I just
> replied to the last mail in my inbox like I always do. Anyways I don't
> expect it to happen again.
>
> Regards,
> Ashish
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 2:20:55 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> > > The person who sent the below mail wanted to.
> >
> > but since you top posted, no one knew *what* you were replying to. If you
> > had
> > followed list etiquette, quoted the OP and replied under, there would
> > have been no controversy.
> >
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: [Fsf-friends] Ogg album in the Month of Music

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM, swamynathan  wrote:

> hey we got a music band !
> ogg album sounds good ill ask my band mates and woek on that
> www.wattabottles.com


And I have a request. Please tune the website. Blinking text is a big
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Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (FG)

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mehul Ved  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
>  wrote:
> > On 10:00:05 Dec 17, Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
> >> $ fg 2 -- Move the 2nd active job to foreground.
> >>
> >
> > Shouldn't this be $ fg %2?
>

zsh has a slight advantage in this respect
fg %
eg. fg %gcc

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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 Dec 2008 9:58:16 pm varadarajan narayanan wrote:
> > and someone wanted to install IE in Linux !
>
> nobody *wants* to install IE on linux - any webdeveloper (apart from me)
> has
> to make sure that his site 'works' with IE - which is why people need
> access
> to IE.
>

*http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/*
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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
wrote:
>
> So now, the Q'n is does FOSS adhere to formal Engineering
> practices ?

Case Study: The Hungarian notation
It is considered good etiquette by Microsoft programmers(They claim it
eliminatesbugs caused by typing). But the Linux coding standard takes a
completely different approach to this:

[quote]

Encoding the type of a function into the name (so-called Hungarian
notation) is brain damaged - the compiler knows the types anyway and can
check those, and it only confuses the programmer.  No wonder MicroSoft
makes buggy programs.

[/quote]
Also consider the confused plight of duck type language programmers who
use your API.

http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/CodingStyle
(It most certainly confuses me. F is Flag and not Float for example!)
Also, if the functions are actually well-written, they wouldn't exceed a
single screen. So I can figure out the type anyway.

If not then for what other one or more reasons we should embrace
> FOSS ?
> Iam raising this Q'n as a responsible Engineer.

Cathedral and the Bazaar explains this better. (ESR prefers calling
himself a scruffy hacker :P. I love his anecdote as to how he handled
Craig Mundie)

Also I can tell that if FOSS donot adhere to any formal
> Engineering practices, then Iam sure that most of
> the activities done would yield themselves redundant and that
> would spell an eddy-current in the dynamics of economics. How
> can such a scenario be usefull for a layman user/consumer in every-day life
> ?

I see excellent roadmaps in FOSS projects. And much unlike Microsoft's
Vista's roadmap, which was expected to release in 2003 and came out in 2006,
most are almost on track.
Also the longest step in any SE process(maintenance) is best applied to FOSS
since if the lead dev quits, we have either a fork or a set of developers
taking up
the same project.(audacious from xmms)
Testing is comprehensive too.(Alphas, betas, RCs). This is too slightly
different
from the Cathedral style since we have nothing to hide from the people here.
So
we can involve them more in testing. Testers are always welcome at any
project.
The bug fixes/triage of most software is good.

There are two more [OT] reasons why we do not need to "spend 10 months in
planning and 2 days in execution"
1) The UNIX philosophy: KISS(Keep it Simple, Stupid). Every app does one
thing
and does it well. So we focus on the target alone
2) The development starts with a small subset and keeps adding more and more
(something like the spiral). Since most tools dont charge for updates, this
is
welcomed by the users.

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

2008-12-17 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:

> Fundamentally is FOSS development methodolgy analytically structured ?
> As we see, almost any FOSS s/w development activity is caried out in an adhoc 
> manner and most of the decisions are made out of human instincts.

http://opensource.mit.edu/online_papers.php?lim=1000 would be having
some papers that would be of help. The perception of 'ad-hoc' manner
and "development driven by gut instinct" points to a need to read up a
bit on the papers :)

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Re: [Ilugc] GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings

Hi,

>
> GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings
>

Nice effort.

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

Hi,

> So now, the Q'n is does FOSS adhere to formal Engineering 
> practices ?
> If not then for what other one or more reasons we should embrace 
> FOSS ?
> Iam raising this Q'n as a responsible Engineer.
> Also I can tell that if FOSS donot adhere to any formal 
> Engineering practices,


Here is the answer from "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric Steven Raymond


I anatomize a successful open-source project, fetchmail, that was run
as a deliberate test of the surprising theories about software
engineering suggested by the history of Linux.

I discuss these theories in terms of two fundamentally different
development styles, the ``cathedral'' model of most of the commercial
world versus the ``bazaar'' model of the Linux world. I show that
these models derive from opposing assumptions about the nature of the
software-debugging task.

I then make a sustained argument from the Linux experience for the
proposition that ``Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow'',
suggest productive analogies with other self-correcting systems of
selfish agents, and conclude with some exploration of the implications
of this insight for the future of software.

Read more the book at
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008-12-17 Thread sivaji j.g

there are 55,000 tamil words available in tamil wordnet which is available
> on
> nrcfoss website. The words are in roman characters, but I have written a
> python script to convert them to unicode - the database is released under
> CC,
> so you may utilise that.


Hello kenneth thank you for your concern,

 I am part of this project. we were searching nrcfoss website to get the
list but i couldnt get it.
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[Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

2008-12-17 Thread Selvakumar Rajeswaran

Hello FOSSians,
Fundamentally is FOSS development methodolgy analytically structured ?
As we see, almost any FOSS s/w development activity is caried out in an adhoc 
manner and most of the decisions are made out of human instincts. 
More particularly the following points need clarification 
1) Is any FOSS software development activity carried out conforming to Software 
Engineering Standards ?
2) As in any SDLC workflow (carried out in formal Software Engineering 
practices), 
    a) is there any well-defined documentation available at each stage of 
project progress, so that 
    those documentation would serve for future reference & revisiting 
at any future point of time.
    b) by the term "documentation" i mean the documents of SRS, Design 
Specification, Project Plan, Cost-    Estimation, Execution 
Plan, Contingency Plan and so like.
    c) so the point is, when such things get documented, the process by 
itself would render a blue-print before
    hand the solution is implemented and for this same reason only any 
formal Engineering level work 
    is carried out in that way.

    So now, the Q'n is does FOSS adhere to formal Engineering practices 
?
    If not then for what other one or more reasons we should embrace 
FOSS ?
    Iam raising this Q'n as a responsible Engineer.
    Also I can tell that if FOSS donot adhere to any formal Engineering 
practices, then Iam sure that most of 
    the activities done would yield themselves redundant and that would 
spell an eddy-current in the dynamics             of economics. How can 
such a scenario be usefull for a layman user/consumer in every-day life ?

Let us try to (re)engineer the entire problem.

Thanks,
Selvakumar.



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I am sorry that happened. Actually I dont know how that happened. I just
replied to the last mail in my inbox like I always do. Anyways I don't
expect it to happen again.

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> > The person who sent the below mail wanted to.
>
> but since you top posted, no one knew *what* you were replying to. If you
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> The person who sent the below mail wanted to.

but since you top posted, no one knew *what* you were replying to. If you had 
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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 2:19:10 pm ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
> I feel for Evaluation purpose we can discuss features available in a
> non-free software that should be made available in a Free Software.

this was not that type of disuccion - someone recommended Kalkulate - which is 
not free software.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 4:35:36 pm ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
>  wrote:
> > Maybe you can just use a wiki instead.
>
> Suzhi was there.. Even few words were there.. Now missing..
>
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/Suzhi/

it is still there, I am doing cleaning up and disabled it. Will be back up by 
tommorrow

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Re: [Ilugc] GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings

2008-12-17 Thread Pushparajan V

2008/12/17 balachandar muruganantham 

> Hi Luggies,
>
> GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings
>
> Why GoOpenSource?
> This blog is dedicated in provide information about free and open source
> software for human beings. i say it specifically for human beings because
> this blog not going to contain geeky stuff. its for a common man who will
> be
> able to do his stuff using FOSS legally and enjoys the freedom
>
> Goal of the Blog
> Making Non-techie people to use FOSS for their daily needs.
>
> How can i contribute?
> If you are a FOSS user, please write an article about the FOSS software
> which you use daily at work / home and send it to mbchandar AT gmail DOT
> com. You can also write how to, getting started or series of articles
> related to a particular FOSS software which are of common use. You article
> should be simple and easy to understand targeted at end user.
>
> is there already exists like this?
> i really dont know. i started this so share the list of softwares i use
> daily and thought of getting to know the same from you folks who use them.
>
> you can read the articles in the blog. share your critics, comments,
> improvements, suggestions et al.


I cannot find any link to the blog you mentioned.. may be u missed out ???

This is the blog: http://goopensource.wordpress.com/



>
> - balachandar muruganantham
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> எனது தமிழ் பக்கங்கள் - http://www.balachandar.net/pakkangal
> Beyond Work - http://beyondwork.wordpress.com/
> "கடாஅக் களிற்றின்மேற் கட்படாம் மாதர் படாஅ முலைமேல் துகில். " - குறள் எண் :
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[Ilugc] GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings

Hi Luggies,

GoOpenSource - free and open source software blog for human beings

Why GoOpenSource?
This blog is dedicated in provide information about free and open source
software for human beings. i say it specifically for human beings because
this blog not going to contain geeky stuff. its for a common man who will be
able to do his stuff using FOSS legally and enjoys the freedom

Goal of the Blog
Making Non-techie people to use FOSS for their daily needs.

How can i contribute?
If you are a FOSS user, please write an article about the FOSS software
which you use daily at work / home and send it to mbchandar AT gmail DOT
com. You can also write how to, getting started or series of articles
related to a particular FOSS software which are of common use. You article
should be simple and easy to understand targeted at end user.

is there already exists like this?
i really dont know. i started this so share the list of softwares i use
daily and thought of getting to know the same from you folks who use them.

you can read the articles in the blog. share your critics, comments,
improvements, suggestions et al.

- balachandar muruganantham
உலகம்.net - இலவச தமிழ் வலைப்பதிவுச் சேவை - http://ulagam.net
எனது தமிழ் பக்கங்கள் - http://www.balachandar.net/pakkangal
Beyond Work - http://beyondwork.wordpress.com/
"கடாஅக் களிற்றின்மேற் கட்படாம் மாதர் படாஅ முலைமேல் துகில். " - குறள் எண் :
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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bharathi Subramanian <
sbhara...@midascomm.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, balachandar muruganantham wrote:
>
> > i thought this is Linux group where we can discuss about proprietory
> > softwares in linux.
>
> Yes to certain level. If we allow the discussion about proprietary
> softwares running on Linux, then we should allow the discussion about
> softwares runs with WINE also. Hope you understand ;)
>
> i agree that it should be *upto* certain level. but i don't encourage WINE
for people.


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Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (FG)

2008-12-17 Thread Mehul Ved

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:
> On 10:00:05 Dec 17, Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
>> $ fg 2 -- Move the 2nd active job to foreground.
>>
>
> Shouldn't this be $ fg %2?

Both work, atleast under bash in Linux.

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Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (FG)

2008-12-17 Thread Girish Venkatachalam

On 10:00:05 Dec 17, Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
> One Day One GNU/Linux Command 
> =
> 
> fg -- Place a job in the ForeGround.
> 
> Summary:
> 
> Normally user can run many jobs in background, by adding & at end of
> the command (ex: sleep 10 &).
> 
> fg is a shell command. It is used to move a job from background to the
> foreground, as if it is NOT started with `&'. If JOB is not present,
> then current/last job is used.
> 
> Examples:
> 
> $ sleep 100 & -- Start a dummy job in background.
> 
> $ fg -- Move the last job to foreground.
> 
> $ sleep 150 & -- Dummy job 1
> 
> $ sleep 140 & -- Dummy job 2
> 
> $ sleep 130 & -- Dummy job 3
> 
> $ jobs -- List all active jobs.
> 
> $ fg 2 -- Move the 2nd active job to foreground.
> 

Shouldn't this be $ fg %2?

-Girish
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:
>
> Maybe you can just use a wiki instead.
>

Suzhi was there.. Even few words were there.. Now missing..

http://nrcfosshelpline.in/Suzhi/

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

>
> Can you share the google doc with us?
> --
> Regards,
> T.Shrinivasan
>

Here is the link for tamil word-list which i extracted from aspell:

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=d473z8t_25fr39nfw


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[Ilugc] Learn Embedded Technology From Industry Experts

2008-12-17 Thread Rajiv Batra

Dear All,

visit http://www.e-nalanda.com to learn  RTOS Fundamentals & Programming
using µCos, Embedded Linux, 32 Bit ARM Architecture & Programming, WinCE,
Linux Device Driver (LDD), Embedded C, Operating Systems Fundamentals (using
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram


ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:


http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/107-Productive-Monday-Gobby-Collaborative-editor.html

Can this be used for this purpose..


Yes. To use it effectively over the net, you need sobby as well which is 
a dedicated server for editing documents.


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo

Maybe NCRFOSS can run a instance of that. You need to setup a mechanism 
for authentication as well.  However, there is no effective revision 
control or locking and you can lose data accidentally or otherwise, very 
easily unless it is a small group.


Maybe you can just use a wiki instead.

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

>
> The word alternatives are listed as radio buttons with the buttons aligned
> straight to them, which visually implies that each button has something to
> do with the option it is lined with, but it is not exactly true in your
> case.
>
> Also, the common way of offering options in spell checkers is through a
> single-selectable list box and the buttons aligned in a 2 row or 3 row two
> column arrangement. You can see this in the default spell checker used in
> Gedit.


thank you for your valuable suggestion,i actually tried with gtk Treeview
and Liststore to display list of item  ,but its truly hard to use and
finding the selected item(as i am new).

Now i am trying with kiwi-python module's ObjectList.

suggestions are welcome.




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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008-12-17 Thread Parthan SR


ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:

In fedora docs I found a tool, where people edit documents together..

not sure what.. yes I got it..

Its Gobby :-)

Any one using Gobby here?

http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/107-Productive-Monday-Gobby-Collaborative-editor.html
  

Well, to record the fact that Gobby has been used as a standard for 
collaborative textual content development in Ubuntu community for long, 
especially by the Indian team.


`apt-get install gobby` FTW!. ;-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:21 PM, S.Selvam Siva  wrote:
>> > Currently i am using Google doc to organize the Tamil word list, but its
>> > very slow as i am using mobile GPRS Internet connection.
>>
>> how does aspell organise the word list?
>
>
> aspell-ta uses plain text with single word in a line, as of now there are
> only 14,000 tamil words.
>
> Many commonly used words are not there eg  காதல்,

ம்ம்ம்.. சரி சரி.. ;-)

> we need help to collect, organize and index  Tamil  words for that we are
> using google doc now
>

வேறு வழி பார்க்கலாம் செல்வம். இருக்கிறது. கூடுமானவரை இவற்றைத்
தவிர்த்து ஆனால் வேண்டும் போது பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ளராம்.

In fedora docs I found a tool, where people edit documents together..

not sure what.. yes I got it..

Its Gobby :-)

Any one using Gobby here?

http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/107-Productive-Monday-Gobby-Collaborative-editor.html

Can this be used for this purpose..

We are planning to have a standard dictionary.. volunteers each one
can take care of one letter..

In few months time we can arrive at 1,00,000 words

There is already some work by Srinivasan in Ruby for splittings words,
which can come handy later..

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[Ilugc] Roman to Unicode Font Converter needed

Hi Kg,

Nice to hear that you have done a Roman to Unicode Font Converter for tamil.

Where can I get it?

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

Hi,

> Many commonly used words are not there eg  காதல்,
> we need help to collect, organize and index  Tamil  words for that we are
> using google doc now

Can you share the google doc with us?



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Re: [Ilugc] Re: [Fsf-friends] Ogg album in the Month of Music

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM, swamynathan  wrote:
> hey we got a music band !
> ogg album sounds good ill ask my band mates and woek on that
> www.wattabottles.com
>

Please..

hope exams are over bye now.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

> > Currently i am using Google doc to organize the Tamil word list, but its
> > very slow as i am using mobile GPRS Internet connection.
>
> how does aspell organise the word list?


aspell-ta uses plain text with single word in a line, as of now there are
only 14,000 tamil words.

Many commonly used words are not there eg  காதல்,
we need help to collect, organize and index  Tamil  words for that we are
using google doc now


> Why do you need to use google docs?
> Why do you not do it on your own machine?






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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

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> On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:51:25 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> > I posted this for the person wanting to use IE. To let him know there are
> > flaws.
>
> and you think there are people here wanting to use IE?
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:52:54 pm balachandar muruganantham wrote:
>
> if it doesnt, it should
>
>

I feel for Evaluation purpose we can discuss features available in a
non-free software that should be made available in a Free Software.

It has become general these days with people asking, I have this in
Windows what do you have in GNU/ Linux :-)



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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
>> http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1lw2mh9.png
>
> looking good, but the whole dialog is in english - should it not be in Tamil?

ஆம் ஆக்கும் போதே தமிழில் செய்யுங்கள். தமிழில் இருந்து ஆங்கிலத்திற்கு
பின்னர் தேவையாயின் மாற்றிக் கொள்ளலாம்.

;-)

> One reason why you should have your code in a repository is that you can also
> have a ticketing system so that we can post suggestions/bugs there. That is
> how FOSS works.
>

வரும் வாரம் இது குறித்த கலந்தாய்வு இருக்கிறது. அது சமயம் இது பற்றி
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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

2008-12-17 Thread Bharathi Subramanian

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, balachandar muruganantham wrote:

> i thought this is Linux group where we can discuss about proprietory
> softwares in linux. 

Yes to certain level. If we allow the discussion about proprietary
softwares running on Linux, then we should allow the discussion about
softwares runs with WINE also. Hope you understand ;)

Bye :)
-- 
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

செல்வம்,

பகிர்ந்து கொண்படி தாங்கள் மடலாடற் குழுவில் தாங்கள் செய்து வந்துள்ள
பணிகள் குறித்து கூறியமை மகிழ்ச்சி அளிக்கிறது.

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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:52:54 pm balachandar muruganantham wrote:
> > proprietary - dont discuss it on this list please
>
> i thought this is Linux group where we can discuss about proprietory
> softwares in linux.
>
> does mailing list guidlines implies that only FOSS software should be
> discussed?

if it doesnt, it should



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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:51:25 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> I posted this for the person wanting to use IE. To let him know there are
> flaws.

and you think there are people here wanting to use IE?

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:44:40 pm S.Selvam Siva wrote:
> I have no idea about repository or managing the code on Internet,
>
> I will be thankful if you help me to do it.

get an account on code.google.com - learn to use subversion. It is very easy. 
Amachu will help you there. If you have any problems, post on this list.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:27:32 pm S.Selvam Siva wrote:
> 2. Help to add/edit the tamil words to word list.

there are 55,000 tamil words available in tamil wordnet which is available on 
nrcfoss website. The words are in roman characters, but I have written a 
python script to convert them to unicode - the database is released under CC, 
so you may utilise that.

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Re: [Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 Dec 2008 11:38:19 pm ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
> > Let me also try Kalculate.. Any one else having experience with
> Kalculate?
>
> proprietary - dont discuss it on this list please
>
>
i thought this is Linux group where we can discuss about proprietory
softwares in linux.

does mailing list guidlines implies that only FOSS software should be
discussed?

just curious to know.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2008-12-17 Thread Parthan SR


S.Selvam Siva wrote:

Here the snapshot of the work done so far,

http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1lw2mh9.png
Can you check with the default Spell Checker Dialog in Gedit and note 
how the UI looks. Much better example with be the one in Kate if it does 
have one. The spell checker UI in the above screen shot is a very bad 
example of UI design. I very well understand that it's just a prototype 
but thought of pointing you in the right direction.


The word alternatives are listed as radio buttons with the buttons 
aligned straight to them, which visually implies that each button has 
something to do with the option it is lined with, but it is not exactly 
true in your case.


Also, the common way of offering options in spell checkers is through a 
single-selectable list box and the buttons aligned in a 2 row or 3 row 
two column arrangement. You can see this in the default spell checker 
used in Gedit.


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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

I posted this for the person wanting to use IE. To let him know there are
flaws.

Regards,
Ashish

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:32:02 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> > This is to inform that a *serious security flaw *in the* Internet
> Explorer
> > (IE)*, has been reported by BBC.
>
> what is the relevance to this list?
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

> looking good, but the whole dialog is in english - should it not be in
> Tamil?
> One reason why you should have your code in a repository is that you can
> also
> have a ticketing system so that we can post suggestions/bugs there. That is
> how FOSS works.
>

பயர்பாக்ஸ்க்கான தமிழ் சொல் திருத்தி திட்டம் ஏற்கனவே இருக்கிறது.

இங்கே சுட்டவும் -> http://code.google.com/p/tamilspellchecker/

நீட்சி தொடுப்பு https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8902
-
we have Tamil Spell checker for Firefox project here -
http://code.google.com/p/tamilspellchecker/

Plugin Link - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8902


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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:27:32 pm S.Selvam Siva wrote:
> Currently i am using Google doc to organize the Tamil word list, but its
> very slow as i am using mobile GPRS Internet connection.

how does aspell organise the word list? Why do you need to use google docs? 
Why do you not do it on your own machine? If you have the list under version 
control, you can work offline and commit online - in which case your 
connection speed is irrelevant. 

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

> > Here the snapshot of the work done so far,
> > 
> > http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1lw2mh9.png
> > http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottv2pu2.png
>
> where is the code?


yet to develop, what i have shown in the snapshot is like a hello world
program.


> If it is a FOSS project, the code should be available on
> the internet on some repository.


I have no idea about repository or managing the code on Internet,

I will be thankful if you help me to do it.



>
>
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[Ilugc] RE: vfat partition mounting in Ubuntu 8.10 solved

2008-12-17 Thread பத்மநாதன்

>1) Does your user belong to group 'users'?

  There is no user named 'users' and only group is available.

>2) What happens if you manually mount that partition with the command
mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/share

   Manual mount of partition is working. But it require root
permission. Normal user couldn't write in this partition.

>Just asking. But if both are GNU/Linux distributions, why do you use vfat?

   Nothing special in using vfat. No windows OS in my PC. Even
though my pendrive in ext2 file system, i just made it as vfat.

> 3) Try running fsck on the partition and then remount it.
If all the above fail, you should try on the ubuntu lists/irc
channel/forums/lauchpad.

I add 'noauto' in fstab as below and change my idea from auto-mounting

/dev/sda4 /mnt/share vfat users,
grp=users,noauto,umask=0002,rw,utf=800

Then I create an alias in ~/.bashrc file of normal user

alias share="mount -v  /dev/sda4"
alias unshare="umount -v /dev/sda4"

Now it is working and partition has an RW permission

Padhu,
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Re: [Ilugc] IE flaws and switch to other browsers

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:32:02 pm Ashish Verma wrote:
> This is to inform that a *serious security flaw *in the* Internet Explorer
> (IE)*, has been reported by BBC.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:27:32 pm S.Selvam Siva wrote:
> 
> http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1lw2mh9.png

looking good, but the whole dialog is in english - should it not be in Tamil? 
One reason why you should have your code in a repository is that you can also 
have a ticketing system so that we can post suggestions/bugs there. That is 
how FOSS works.

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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 1:27:32 pm S.Selvam Siva wrote:
> Here the snapshot of the work done so far,
> 
> http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1lw2mh9.png
> http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottv2pu2.png

where is the code? If it is a FOSS project, the code should be available on 
the internet on some repository.

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