Re: [Ilugc] Kluc Expo 09 Open space exibition and seminar

2009-09-06 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hello guyz,

The list of stalls for the expo and contact info for the event is available
http://demo.ilugc.in/events/2009/sep/kamban-linux-user-community-expo-foss .

Its going to be open source software fest, Mr. Asokan Pitchai (Mentor/Coach,
Member of ilugc) , Prof. Kannan Moudgalya Head - CDEEP IIT - Mumbai,Prof.
Prabu Ramachandran IIT-Mumbai going to share their thoughts on "python for
scientific computing".
Mr.Raman Member of ilugc  is taking  class on perl. Mr.Baskar - Free lancing
corporate trainer is taking class on Ruby on Rails.

Kamban Linux User Community, invites the student community to participate in
the event. For contact info please see the above url.

Thanks and regards,

Thyagarajan Shanmugham
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Re: [Ilugc] addition to planet

2009-09-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 07 Sep 2009 11:32:47 am Senthil Kumaran S wrote:
> Gonsalves wrote:
> > this is a request to Shakthi, Aanjan, Stylesen, Superkiddo and others who
> > are on the planet to please enter your details in the 'join planet' form
> > so as to enable automation of the process. Just register, login, click on
> > 'join planet' and add your details. Hardly takes a minute - help us serve
> > you better.
>
> I tried it on the other day and it threw some error, I thought it was
> intermittent and wanted to try later. Few minutes back I tried and got
> the same error,
>
> 
>
> Error
>
> Something crashed - please report this error at
> http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/ilugc/

i am an idiot
>
> 
>
> This happens when I click "Edit planet" link after logging in. this
> happens before I put any details in "Join planet". A more meaningful
> error message will be good.

working on it
>
> FYI, I ve joined planet and this error is not visible anymore.

feedback is the most important part of web dev

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Re: [Ilugc] addition to planet

2009-09-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 07 Sep 2009 11:15:30 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> this is a request to Shakthi, Aanjan, Stylesen, Superkiddo and others who
> are on the planet to please enter your details in the 'join planet' form so
> as to enable automation of the process. Just register, login, click on
> 'join planet' and add your details. Hardly takes a minute - help us serve
> you better.


thanks stylesen - that was *fast*
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Re: [Ilugc] addition to planet

2009-09-06 Thread Senthil Kumaran S
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Kenneth
Gonsalves wrote:
> this is a request to Shakthi, Aanjan, Stylesen, Superkiddo and others who are
> on the planet to please enter your details in the 'join planet' form so as to
> enable automation of the process. Just register, login, click on 'join planet'
> and add your details. Hardly takes a minute - help us serve you better.

I tried it on the other day and it threw some error, I thought it was
intermittent and wanted to try later. Few minutes back I tried and got
the same error,



Error

Something crashed - please report this error at
http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/ilugc/



This happens when I click "Edit planet" link after logging in. this
happens before I put any details in "Join planet". A more meaningful
error message will be good.

FYI, I ve joined planet and this error is not visible anymore.

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[Ilugc] addition to planet

2009-09-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
this is a request to Shakthi, Aanjan, Stylesen, Superkiddo and others who are 
on the planet to please enter your details in the 'join planet' form so as to 
enable automation of the process. Just register, login, click on 'join planet' 
and add your details. Hardly takes a minute - help us serve you better.

-- 
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ilugc Digest, Vol 64, Issue 21

2009-09-06 Thread balachandar muruganantham
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:35 AM, sakthi legend  wrote:

> hello sir,
> i need to know the difference between drupal and joomla ...both are
> cms.
> extra features,adv,and disadvantages...etc...
>
>
Sakthi,
Please follow the mailing list guidelines

http://demo.ilugc.in/content/mailinglist-guidelines

Do not reply to digest please.

related to your question,
i assume you have used both. why dont you list the differenence you came to
know. i will add to it.


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[Ilugc] Re: ilugc Digest, Vol 64, Issue 21

2009-09-06 Thread sakthi legend
hello sir,
i need to know the difference between drupal and joomla ...both are
cms.
extra features,adv,and disadvantages...etc...

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>   3. deepika (deepika vumitti)
>   4. Re: Foss becomes mandatory in Anna University Coimbatore
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>   5. Re: deepika (Guruprasad)
>   6. Problem in DNAT -- Squid (mettur salem)
>   7. Yuuguu is licensed / paided ??? (mettur salem)
>   8. Re: Yuuguu is licensed / paided ??? (Guruprasad)
>   9. Re: Problem in DNAT -- Squid (Arun SAG)
>
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> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:24:43 +0530
> From: senthilraja P 
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Difference between the Wordpress & Drupal
> To: ILUG-C 
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, balachandar muruganantham <
> mbchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Kannan  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi friends..
> > >I have installed the wordpress & drupal in my local
> > system.Both
> > > are the web development tool.
> > > Both have the nice interfaces & so.
> > >
> > > Wat is the difference between the wordpress & drupal like CMS?
> > >
> >
> > i have written this some 3 yrs back.
> > http://www.balachandar.net/blog125-2006-04-22.html
> >
> > at present, u can do anything with both the tools
> >
> >
> I feel,  drupal has a relatively flexible architecture than wordpress.
> Drupal has an extensive and dynamic templating system, than wordpress.
>
> The plugin system of wordpress is different from the module feature of
> drupal.  There each module has its own URL structure, whereas, in
> wordpress,
> the plugin is always automatically included.
>
> Performance wise, wordpress serves better.
>
> Regards,
> Senthil
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:29:08 +0530
> From: senthilraja P 
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] LAMP { PHP, PERL, PYTHON } Workshops
> To: ILUG-C 
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Ravi Jaya 
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> >
> I should thank ravi for immediately accepting my request.  To be curious,
> how many in our group, are conducting workshops in colleges?  It will be
> better if we know each other.
>
> Regards,
> Senthil
>
>
> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:55:19 +0530
> From: deepika vumitti 
> Subject: [Ilugc] deepika
> To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in
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> send  me important  updates
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:57:05 +0530
> From: senthilraja P 
> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Foss becomes mandatory in Anna University
>Coimbatore
> To: ILUG-C 
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Venkatraman S 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1. "For what the course has to offer", Fifth semester is too early. This
> > should be in the final year.
> > 2. This course would fine tune a student's programming/exploratory
> skills,
> > which should be done after learning the rudiments of programming and the
> > associated theory.
> >
> >
> I feel, keeping this subject in 5th semester is a perfect one, because, the
> student will be empowered with a full-cycle programming environment, so
> that
> they can actually do some project in the final year.
>
> >From my analysis, most of the students could not do their final year
> project, because, they dont have the technical knowhow, or familiarity with
> the development environment.
>
> Its like  studying about "BIke mechanics" all the four years, and suddenly
> asked to repair a bike or rida  bike.
>
> However, i feel, including LAMP as a subject may give only basic
> introduction.  I havent yet seen the book yet.
>
> Unless we create a strong open source movement, that spearheads some really
> serious open source products, student may not actually learn much.
>
> We need the passion of people like "Shivaji" in our group, who had the
> interest and vision to make in to GSoC.
>
> Why dont we institutionalise such open source product development.
>
> Still i could find that most of our developers, are familiar only with
> 

Re: [Ilugc] Problem in DNAT -- Squid

2009-09-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Girish
Venkatachalam wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, mettur salem wrote:
>
>> I have problem in the following issues
>>
>> 1. Squid connectivity ---  lan not able to ping from client to server  ( 10
>> to 20 minutes once this problemoccur -- network connection not respond,
>> connection timed out )
>> 2. squid browsing in very slow  -- i increased the cache mem 1024  in
>> squid.conf files

Am assuming you have also configured a SNAT. If squid works but ping
fails, check if the linux machine is dropping echo requests in
IPTables. How do you know squid works? Do logs show HTTP requests
going thro' squid and not via SNAT?

>> 3. My outlook mails are not able to delivered to outerworld  via linux
>> server  not able to know the dns ip to name or name to ip.

If DNS is failing, then browsing will not work too and will return an
unknown host error. I find it odd that browsing works but POP/SMTP DNS
resolution fails. Have you tried using IP in the mail config to arrive
at this conclusion?

>> 4. my linux server is act as a router and i put DNAT  in Transparent Proxy
>
> Does this work? Transparent proxy is very hard to setup.

Girish - why is it hard to set up? There are very many lucid howtos.
This has worked well for quite some time and does not have any
gotchas.

> Did you first test whether the DNAT is working properly?

Check squid logs and this will be evident.

> You can check that with netcat and by connecting from outside your network
> to a computer behind your Squid box.
>
> Unless the returning packets also go through squid DNAT will not work.

If the outgoing request goes from squid, the returning packet will
also go thro' squid as the TCP connection to/from outside terminates
on the squid machine. I've found redirect DNAT works as intended in
transforming connections. To check this, set up IPTables log using the
-j LOG target for sport being port 80 to internal LAN IPs on the squid
machines.

-- Mohan Sundaram
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Re: [Ilugc] Problem in DNAT -- Squid

2009-09-06 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, mettur salem wrote:
> Dear all,
>

[...]

> I have problem in the following issues
>
> 1. Squid connectivity ---  lan not able to ping from client to server  ( 10
> to 20 minutes once this problemoccur -- network connection not respond,
> connection timed out )
> 2. squid browsing in very slow  -- i increased the cache mem 1024  in
> squid.conf files
> 3. My outlook mails are not able to delivered to outerworld  via linux
> server  not able to know the dns ip to name or name to ip
> 4. my linux server is act as a router and i put DNAT  in Transparent Proxy

Does this work? Transparent proxy is very hard to setup.

Did you first test whether the DNAT is working properly?

You can check that with netcat and by connecting from outside your network
to a computer behind your Squid box.

Unless the returning packets also go through squid DNAT will not work.

> 5.During Remote Destop usage  memory is not sufficient  how to increase it (
> screen resolution caching is too low and slow )
> 6. Server monitor gets automatically switch off / power off    and instantly
> on  ( i think it is only in Softwares )

I can't help on anything else. If DNAT works then my advice will not be useful.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] problem with python syncdb

2009-09-06 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Check your database parameters like hostname, username and password
> configured in your code.
> check that using those parameters, you can login into database in a
> separate terminal.

I am sure lug is filled with people many times better than me at Python.

Please send the script as attachment or paste it in the mail.

I will look at it.

-Girish



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[Ilugc] Opencv Face Detection Stall

2009-09-06 Thread Ranjith Kumar







Hai,
   On SFD-09 me and my team pleasure to place a stall topic on "OpenCV Face 
Detection". We use our laptop all we required is a place and power.So I kindly 
request you to arrange it.
   
   Member Details
   ---
 Ranjith Kumar.K
 Alagunambi Welkin
 Parthasarathy.R
 SelvaLakshmi.D

Thank you 

With Regards,
Ranjith Kumar.K


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Re: [Ilugc] Problem in DNAT -- Squid

2009-09-06 Thread Arun SAG
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, mettur salem wrote:

>
> >2. squid browsing in very slow  -- i increased the cache mem 1024  in
> >squid.conf files
>

I don't know whether it helps you or not, anyway please have a look at
http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Squid

>3. My outlook mails are not able to delivered to outerworld  via linux
> >server  not able to know the dns ip to name or name to ip
>

Are you sure, you have set the proxy address correct in outlook express?

>6. Server monitor gets automatically switch off / power offand
> instantly
> >on  ( i think it is only in Softwares )
>

I had that problem in fedora 11, update your fedora 11 installation (yum -y
update ).
-- 
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windows.
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Re: [Ilugc] Yuuguu is licensed / paided ???

2009-09-06 Thread Guruprasad
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM, mettur salem wrote:
> is yuuguu is licensed /paided s/w   please clarify i got a link from
> balachandar

Almost all software are licensed, even Free (as in Freedom) Software
are licensed and we may need to pay to buy them. So can you make your
question clearer?

By looking at 'Yuguu' website I found out that it was a software with
various payment options and a free (as in free beer) version too. I'm
not sure if it is licensed under any Free (as in freedom) software
licenses.

Thank you.

Regards,
Guruprasad.
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[Ilugc] Yuuguu is licensed / paided ???

2009-09-06 Thread mettur salem
is yuuguu is licensed /paided s/w   please clarify i got a link from
balachandar
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[Ilugc] Problem in DNAT -- Squid

2009-09-06 Thread mettur salem
Dear all,

Warm Greetings for the Freedom day we will be celebrate soon
 I also need the TC shirts Please Tell me the amount and size  and where can
i paid it & buy it
 I have some doubts please clear it
 I have implemented the Transparent Proxy in Fedora 11

I have problem in the following issues

1. Squid connectivity ---  lan not able to ping from client to server  ( 10
to 20 minutes once this problemoccur -- network connection not respond,
connection timed out )
2. squid browsing in very slow  -- i increased the cache mem 1024  in
squid.conf files
3. My outlook mails are not able to delivered to outerworld  via linux
server  not able to know the dns ip to name or name to ip
4. my linux server is act as a router and i put DNAT  in Transparent Proxy
5.During Remote Destop usage  memory is not sufficient  how to increase it (
screen resolution caching is too low and slow )
6. Server monitor gets automatically switch off / power offand instantly
on  ( i think it is only in Softwares )

Please give me a your valuable suggestion

with Regars,
Mettur Mohan
9715407268
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Re: [Ilugc] deepika

2009-09-06 Thread Guruprasad
Hello,

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:55 PM, deepika vumitti wrote:
> send  me important  updates

You will get mails from the mailing list as long as you're subscribed
to it. So there is no need to ask for important updates to be sent to
you. Before sending further mails to mailing lists, go through this
once http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and try to
follow mailing list guidelines as much as possible.

HTH. :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss becomes mandatory in Anna University Coimbatore

2009-09-06 Thread senthilraja P
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Venkatraman S  wrote:

>
> 1. "For what the course has to offer", Fifth semester is too early. This
> should be in the final year.
> 2. This course would fine tune a student's programming/exploratory skills,
> which should be done after learning the rudiments of programming and the
> associated theory.
>
>
I feel, keeping this subject in 5th semester is a perfect one, because, the
student will be empowered with a full-cycle programming environment, so that
they can actually do some project in the final year.

>From my analysis, most of the students could not do their final year
project, because, they dont have the technical knowhow, or familiarity with
the development environment.

Its like  studying about "BIke mechanics" all the four years, and suddenly
asked to repair a bike or rida  bike.

However, i feel, including LAMP as a subject may give only basic
introduction.  I havent yet seen the book yet.

Unless we create a strong open source movement, that spearheads some really
serious open source products, student may not actually learn much.

We need the passion of people like "Shivaji" in our group, who had the
interest and vision to make in to GSoC.

Why dont we institutionalise such open source product development.

Still i could find that most of our developers, are familiar only with
coding, but NOT with architecture and design of the application.  When i
first started working in wordpress, the first thing, i tried to understand
was the architecture of the application, that helped me a lot later.

Just my few thoughts.

Regards,
Senthil
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[Ilugc] deepika

2009-09-06 Thread deepika vumitti
send  me important  updates
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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP { PHP, PERL, PYTHON } Workshops

2009-09-06 Thread senthilraja P
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Ravi Jaya  wrote:

> All,
>
>
I should thank ravi for immediately accepting my request.  To be curious,
how many in our group, are conducting workshops in colleges?  It will be
better if we know each other.

Regards,
Senthil
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Re: [Ilugc] Difference between the Wordpress & Drupal

2009-09-06 Thread senthilraja P
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, balachandar muruganantham <
mbchan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Kannan  wrote:
>
> > Hi friends..
> >I have installed the wordpress & drupal in my local
> system.Both
> > are the web development tool.
> > Both have the nice interfaces & so.
> >
> > Wat is the difference between the wordpress & drupal like CMS?
> >
>
> i have written this some 3 yrs back.
> http://www.balachandar.net/blog125-2006-04-22.html
>
> at present, u can do anything with both the tools
>
>
I feel,  drupal has a relatively flexible architecture than wordpress.
Drupal has an extensive and dynamic templating system, than wordpress.

The plugin system of wordpress is different from the module feature of
drupal.  There each module has its own URL structure, whereas, in wordpress,
the plugin is always automatically included.

Performance wise, wordpress serves better.

Regards,
Senthil
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[Ilugc] RE: Remote Desktop Through Gateway Server

2009-09-06 Thread பத்மநாதன்
Team viewer is best in windows. But 'Tight VNC' and Remote desktop
viewer combination rocks when remote machine is windows and control
through linux.
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Re: [Ilugc] do you need a CMS?

2009-09-06 Thread senthilraja P
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Vamsee Kanakala  wrote:

>
> We all can code with hand. What extra time we spend by 'coding by hand', it
> will be off-set by less-complicated administration overhead.
>
> There is a perfectly good way to update stuff (like committing to and
> deploying a public repo) on the alternatives too, both ilugc.org and
> ilugc.org.in - perhaps it's not 'real-time' like a CMS. But then, that
> real-time aspect also encourages spam. So I guess people can make up their
> own minds.
>
>
A lot of man hours has been put in some popular open source CMS like joomla,
drupal, wordpress etc, and also these CMS has been developed over a period
of time, eg, 2 or 3 or 4 years.
So, considering the amount of time required for those projects to mature to
this level, its obvious, that we dont have that much resource of manpower to
develop a project of that kind.

We should try to utilise existing CMS as much possible, unless we are aiming
for some different product.

Regards,
senthil
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: SFD T-Shirt

2009-09-06 Thread Sundaram

Hi!
  
	I would like to attend this session.. I know this tech session is on 19th Sep.  But i don't know where.. Please someone tell me...I like to have five SFD-09 t-shirt (Size - Medium). Tell me the price and how to get it.



cheers
Sundaram. D

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RE: [Ilugc] SFD2009-T.Shirts

2009-09-06 Thread Ranjith Kumar

Hi!
   I like to have SFD-09 t-shirt. Tell me the price and how to get it.
cheers
Ranjith

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RE: [Ilugc] Re: SFD T-Shirt

2009-09-06 Thread Ranjith Kumar

hai
   i agree with t-shirt idea it will be nice i saw the logo it was nice too add 
orange color.
cheers
ranjith

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Re: [Ilugc] Re : Need student to put OpenCV stall for the Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Mohan L
Hi Ranjith,

>  I`m interested in donna OpenCV but i don`t have any idea abt it so u have to 
> guide me.

No problem, I will guide you .

Please send your contact no to my private mail id .

Thanks & Rg
Mohan L
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Re: [Ilugc] problem with python syncdb

2009-09-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

Check your database parameters like hostname, username and password
configured in your code.
check that using those parameters, you can login into database in a
separate terminal.

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[Ilugc] problem with python syncdb

2009-09-06 Thread Zico
I am not sure if i should mail here for this problem or not.

My problem is, in one project, when i went for the command:

python manage.py syncdb to sync my database, i get the error:
*
self.connection = Database.connect(**conn_params)
psycopg2.OperationalError: FATAL

*Can anyone please suggest me anything regarding this?

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Re: [Ilugc] problem in grub

2009-09-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

Windows will wipe out all the MBR data.
So your grub is vanished.
You have to restore the grub.

Follow the link to restore it.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/


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RE: [Ilugc] Re : Need student to put OpenCV stall for the Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ranjith Kumar

Hi 
 I`m interested in donna OpenCV but i don`t have any idea abt it so u have to 
guide me. my laptop is hp compaq c700 is it okay i have installed fedora 11 and 
ubuntu 9.If u wanna me to do just send me the details...
Cheers 
Ranjith

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[Ilugc] problem in grub

2009-09-06 Thread sankar.k
hi friends...


 i installed two operating system in my hard disk that is 1.windows
vista 2.ubuntu 9.04   after i replaced vista into windows xp
now windows xp directly loaded ,ubuntu is not display my boot screen how to
solve this problem?




















regards
sankar.k
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