[Ilugc] how to install TeXlipse plugin in eclipse3.2

2009-12-26 Thread karthick perumal
hi!i am karthick please tell me how to install texlipse plug-in in
eclipse3.2.i have downloaded the (texlipse) plug-in, i want to install it to
my eclipse3.2 i am using ubuntu 9.04
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Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member

2009-12-26 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 25 Dec 2009 11:19:32 pm Saravanan S wrote:
> The more you say, the more likely you are to say something foolish.
> 

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Re: [Ilugc] how to install TeXlipse plugin in eclipse3.2

2009-12-26 Thread Satish Chandra
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, karthick perumal  wrote:

> hi!i am karthick please tell me how to install texlipse plug-in in
> eclipse3.2.i have downloaded the (texlipse) plug-in, i want to install it
> to
> my eclipse3.2 i am using ubuntu 9.04
>

Google is your friend:
http://texlipse.sourceforge.net/manual/installation.html

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[Ilugc] zope server on ubuntu 9.10

2009-12-26 Thread S.Selvam
Hi all,

I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and when i tried to install Zope application server
with the following ,

sudo easy_install -i http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.1 Zope2

i got an error as shown below,
---
.
.
Reading http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.1/
No local packages or download links found for zope.browsermenu
error: Could not find suitable distribution for
Requirement.parse('zope.browsermenu')
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Any suggestions would be helpful .

Note: i have installed python-dev as recommended for zope.

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[Ilugc] CentOS 5.3 x86_64 bit DVD - Around Cromepet or Chennai

2009-12-26 Thread ramadasan
Hi,

I would like to have a copy of CentOS 5.3 x86_64 bit DVD.

Any one in and around Cromepet or Chennai having it & can share?

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[Ilugc] Plz suggest some good links or PDF

2009-12-26 Thread subhojit ojha
hi ILUG's,
 I need ur help to understand the concept of delegation in dns
in brief...can any body provide me a good link where the description is
simple and easy to understand or if any body have any documents, can you plz
send it to my mail id. (subhojit.o...@gmail.com).
I have gone through the documents of O'REILLY but its tough to understand
the concept...plz help me..
Thanks in advance
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[Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-26 Thread Saravanan S
Hi geeks,
  Guide me how to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing). I tried Google but no
document available for free.
I want to use the services at two different physical systems, to be accessed
from anywhere(via network), a minimalistic cloud setup for learning.


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Re: [Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-26 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Saravanan S  wrote:
> Hi geeks,
>      Guide me how to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing). I tried Google but no
> document available for free.
> I want to use the services at two different physical systems, to be accessed
> from anywhere(via network), a minimalistic cloud setup for learning.

Haven't tried it myself but you could give http://open.eucalyptus.com/ a try.
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[Ilugc] Solution : How can we update the package lists & install packages in newly installed [ubuntu os] system without Internet and Repository DVDs

2009-12-26 Thread Arulalan T
problem :


My friends having system which is installed ubuntu 9.10 . But they
dont have Internet connection to update package lists and can't
install any applications.

But I am having Internet connection and I installed many essential
packages in my system.

How can we transfer the archives (i.e. deb files ) and as well as
packages lists ( i.e. Index list in Synaptic Package Manager ) to
newly installed system , os as ubuntu ?

Solution :
--

Myself and my brother Pasupathy were tried to solve this problem and
finally we achieved too.

Just do the following simple steps .

1) Install ubuntu in one system say  " system A " and update the
system via Internet . Now the index list of synaptic package manager
having 28,878 files [ in ubuntu 9.10 ].

2) Install the essential applications and softwares. for eg :
ubuntu-restricted-extras , vlc , mplayer ,
compizconfig-settings-manager , etc.,


Take Backup : part 1
  ---


3) copy the package lists and its information to show in synaptic ,
from the updated system by the following command

$ sudo cp -r /var/lib/apt/lists  /home/[user name]/backup/



4) copy the package lists in binary format

$ sudo cp /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin  /home/[user name]/backup/

$ sudo cp /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin  /home/[user name]/backup/


5)  Now we are going to backup the archives directory. It contains
.deb files.  While installing any application from net , the
downloading files are storing in this directory only (as .deb)

$ sudo cp -r /var/cache/apt/archives  /home/[user name]/backup/



Copy this backup folder into Pen drive.




Thats all ! we backuped all our resource from the system which is
updated via Internet also installed many applications.

part 2: Make update
--

Update & Install the applications in freshly installed [ubuntu] system
( sys " system B " ) without Internet and Repository Dvds.


Open synaptic package manager and note the no of index package lists .
( approximately 1300)


Plug the pen drive into this system and copy the "backup" direcory
into that home directory.

Now


$ cd backup

$ ls

archives  lists  pkgcache.bin   srcpkgcache.bin


$ sudo cp -r lists   /var/lib/apt/

$ sudo cp pkgcache.bin  /var/cache/apt/

$ sudo cp srcpkgcache.bin  /var/cache/apt/

$ sudo cp -r archives   /var/cache/apt/



--

Thats all.



Now go and open the synaptic package manager .   Wow ! Oops !   Now
the no of packages lists in that is 28,878 .

Now u can install , whatever u backuped installed applications from
the " system A " , "system B " also can install those packages without
download from the internet or repository Dvds .


Now try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras , vlc , mplayer ,
compizconfig-settings-manager .  With 1 min , it should be installed.

The only  , we can not install the application beyond the backuped
source from "system A" without Internet .thing


I hope , this may helps to ubuntu admin .

Now in kanchilug , we are installing the packages in various systems
by this way only .   It works well !











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Re: [Ilugc] Solution : How can we update the package lists & install packages in newly installed [ubuntu os] system without Internet and Repository DVDs

2009-12-26 Thread L.Guruprasad
Hi,
Arulalan T wrote:
> problem :
> 
> 
> My friends having system which is installed ubuntu 9.10 . But they
> dont have Internet connection to update package lists and can't
> install any applications.
> 
> But I am having Internet connection and I installed many essential
> packages in my system.
There is this software called apt-on-cd which can do all these things
automatically and should save a lot of manual work.

HTH :)

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Re: [Ilugc] Solution : How can we update the package lists & install packages in newly installed [ubuntu os] system without Internet and Repository DVDs

2009-12-26 Thread ramadasan7
Thanks a lot for the info.  I find that 'apt-on-cd' program is part of 
the ubuntu software package and that this can be installed thru Synaptic 
Package Manager.


This is very useful as a backup also.

Ramadasan


L.Guruprasad wrote:

Hi,
Arulalan T wrote:
  

problem :


My friends having system which is installed ubuntu 9.10 . But they
dont have Internet connection to update package lists and can't
install any applications.

But I am having Internet connection and I installed many essential
packages in my system.


There is this software called apt-on-cd which can do all these things
automatically and should save a lot of manual work.

HTH :)

Regards,
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[Ilugc] PHP Debugger

2009-12-26 Thread aishwarya .
Hi,
Is there any PHP Debugger that i can use...?
I tried with eclipse, i could only install eclipse, but couldn't know how to
install a plugin for PHP debugging even after lot of googling..
Can anyone please help me..



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Re: [Ilugc] Solution : How can we update the package lists & install packages in newly installed [ubuntu os] system without Internet and Repository DVDs

2009-12-26 Thread aishwarya .
Hi,

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 7:20 AM, ramadasan7  wrote:

> Thanks a lot for the info.  I find that 'apt-on-cd' program is part of the
> ubuntu software package and that this can be installed thru Synaptic Package
> Manager.
>
> This is very useful as a backup also.
>
> Ramadasan


Please dont top post..!!


>
>
>
> L.Guruprasad wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Arulalan T wrote:
>>
>>
>>> problem :
>>> 
>>>
>>> My friends having system which is installed ubuntu 9.10 . But they
>>> dont have Internet connection to update package lists and can't
>>> install any applications.
>>>
>>> But I am having Internet connection and I installed many essential
>>> packages in my system.
>>>
>>>
>> There is this software called apt-on-cd which can do all these things
>> automatically and should save a lot of manual work.
>>
>> HTH :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Guruprasad
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Re: [Ilugc] PHP Debugger

2009-12-26 Thread mohan L
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 7:22 AM, aishwarya . wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there any PHP Debugger that i can use...?
>

Have tou seen Xdebug extension ? If not take a look it.
http://xdebug.org/index.php

Thanks & Rg
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Re: [Ilugc] Project for MBA(HR) student

2009-12-26 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,


On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
>> Are you talking about student's project ??
>
> yes. they are MBA(HR) students and looking for final year projects.

Having worked in a management institute for almost 3 years, some
thoughts that cross the mind in this regards are,

Introduce them to project like OrangeHRM (community version), some
resume manager, limesurvey

and ask them to build a HRMS based on that.

Most likely HR students are not that tech savvy to code ... of course
the usual caveats apply


HTH

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Re: [Ilugc] Project for MBA(HR) student

2009-12-26 Thread Ravi Jaya
I am getting requests for projects from MBA(HR) friends.
> Thinking on how to make them to contribute to FOSS instead of going to
> a company.
>
> Share your thoughts on how to help them in a FOSS way.
>
I know couple of my friends who write's code day in day out (they work as a
Senior Software Engineers in the reputed multinationals ) to win their bread
and better. They were joined in MBA Course  in the A*** University, when it
comes to final year project, their guide suggested them to look into the
managerial way rather than technical aspects into the problem ( in sense,
it doesn't matter whether you code or not ).

They done with their Project, submitted their thesis passed out with the
Honours.

I had a chance to glance  their thesis it contains 100% stories [Complied
from Internet, CUT,  COPY and PASTE ] and 0% codding. Then I though MBA
project is all about CCP [1].

Its my personal experience with the Project 'MBA' .  I came to know these
because they are room-mates, sometime I used to google for them.  lol




[1] CUT,  COPY and PASTE




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Re: [Ilugc] Solution : How can we update the package lists & install packages in newly installed [ubuntu os] system without Internet and Repository DVDs

2009-12-26 Thread Mano
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:09 AM, L.Guruprasad  wrote:

> Hi,
> Arulalan T wrote:
> > problem :
> > 
> >
> > My friends having system which is installed ubuntu 9.10 . But they
> > dont have Internet connection to update package lists and can't
> > install any applications.
> >
> > But I am having Internet connection and I installed many essential
> > packages in my system.
> There is this software called apt-on-cd which can do all these things
> automatically and should save a lot of manual work.
>
>
But would've taken the fun, challenge and the 'eureka moment' out of doing
it yourself :-). Worth a lot of manual work.

regds,
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[Ilugc] [Call for edit] List_of_laptop_with_preinstalled_GNU-Linux_in_India

2009-12-26 Thread narendra sisodiya
If you know laptops with preinstalled GNU/Linux (non windows, non-dos,
non-freedos) , please help in improving the wiki page
http://lug-iitd.org/List_of_laptop_with_preinstalled_GNU-Linux_in_India

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[Ilugc] How to start firefox at startup in linux

2009-12-26 Thread Saravanan S
Hi all,
   How to start firefox at startup soon after the desktop
loads.inLinux, since any GUI app requires a graphical manager to run.
I want to implement this into a live cd. which is the place i need to add
the script to start firefox or any such gui app?

is it /etc/skel/.xsession or some where else.


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Re: [Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-26 Thread Saravanan S
Thanks , but any other suggestions?
Is there any one who implemented cloud setup?


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Re: [Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-26 Thread Ravi Jaya
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Saravanan S wrote:

> Thanks , but any other suggestions?
> Is there any one who implemented cloud setup?
>
Some time back I heard a team in NRCFOSS working on COULD, but I am not sure
about their current status.

Check with them, they can help you...

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Re: [Ilugc] [Call for edit] List_of_laptop_with_preinstalled_GNU-Linux_in_India

2009-12-26 Thread aishwarya .
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, narendra sisodiya <
narendra.sisod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you know laptops with preinstalled GNU/Linux (non windows, non-dos,
> non-freedos) , please help in improving the wiki page
> http://lug-iitd.org/List_of_laptop_with_preinstalled_GNU-Linux_in_India
>
>
Thanks for the information. I've added some information in the "HCL Laptop
Section"..



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Re: [Ilugc] How to start firefox at startup in linux

2009-12-26 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Saravanan S  wrote:
> Hi all,
>       How to start firefox at startup soon after the desktop
> loads.inLinux, since any GUI app requires a graphical manager to run.
> I want to implement this into a live cd. which is the place i need to add
> the script to start firefox or any such gui app?
>
> is it /etc/skel/.xsession or some where else.
>
i quick way - I hope there will be many other ways too.
(http://www.geek-notes.com/linux/14/run-something-when-linux-boots/ ,
http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/startup.html)
there is a program - "startup application" This may help you. (modify
this package, and add firefox as one startup application),


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Re: [Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-26 Thread JAGANADH G
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ravi Jaya wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Saravanan S  >wrote:
>
> > Thanks , but any other suggestions?
> > Is there any one who implemented cloud setup?
> >
> Some time back I heard a team in NRCFOSS working on COULD, but I am not
> sure
> about their current status.
>
> Check with them, they can help you...
>
>

There is an article on the same topic in the December issue of Linux For You
magazine . Check it out.

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Re: [Ilugc] Project for MBA(HR) student

2009-12-26 Thread Gourav Shah
> > I am getting requests for projects from MBA(HR) friends.
> > Thinking on how to make them to contribute to FOSS instead of going to
> > a company.
> >
> > Share your thoughts on how to help them in a FOSS way.
>
> They could chip in with their domain knowledge.
> One project that I can think off top of my head would be openerp. It
> lags behind when it comes to HR functions especially payroll.
> Then there is orangeHRM.
> Among other things, they could formulate policies on how FOSS can be
> adopted in organisations.
>

I second.
- They could contribute  to OrangeHRM with their domain knowledge.
http://www.orangehrm.com/community.shtml
- Spread awareness in their professional circle about FOSS and its use in HR
domain.

Thanks
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Re: [Ilugc] How to start firefox at startup in linux

2009-12-26 Thread Saravanan S
Thanks Narendra Sisodiya, The problem is i should implement this without any
extra package since i am concerned about its minimal size, and use FLTK *
graphical* user interface.
What is the script/configuration file that is responsible for starting up
gui applications?



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[Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

2009-12-26 Thread kiran kumar
Inbox
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kiran kumar to ilugc
show details 02:19 (5 minutes ago)

hi sir there is problem on saving php files in ubuntu

can any one tell is there any idea to save correctly

it saying u could not save the file in var/www/kk.php


it also saying

you dont have permission to save this necessary file

please check that you  typed the  location correctly and try again






please tell the details of saving the file and with extension and were can i
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Re: [Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

2009-12-26 Thread Salvadesswaran P.S.
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, kiran kumar  wrote:
> hi sir there is problem on saving php files in ubuntu
>
> can any one tell is there any idea to save correctly
>
> it saying u could not save the file in var/www/kk.php
>
>
> it also saying
>
> you dont have permission to save this necessary file
>
> please check that you  typed the  location correctly and try again
>
>
>
>
>
>
> please tell the details of saving the file and with extension and were can i
> save this file

You need to do:

$ sudo gedit file.php
in order to save files to protected directories.
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Re: [Ilugc] Project for MBA(HR) student

2009-12-26 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Gourav Shah  wrote:

> > > I am getting requests for projects from MBA(HR) friends.
> > > Thinking on how to make them to contribute to FOSS instead of going to
> > > a company.
> > >
> > > Share your thoughts on how to help them in a FOSS way.
> >
> > They could chip in with their domain knowledge.
> > One project that I can think off top of my head would be openerp. It
> > lags behind when it comes to HR functions especially payroll.
> > Then there is orangeHRM.
> > Among other things, they could formulate policies on how FOSS can be
> > adopted in organisations.
> >
>
> I second.
> - They could contribute  to OrangeHRM with their domain knowledge.
> http://www.orangehrm.com/community.shtml
> - Spread awareness in their professional circle about FOSS and its use in
> HR
> domain.
>
>
MBA( HR) lemme think they can think of research in

FOSS and Democracy/Govt : Fuctioning of Govt.
FOSS and Politics : Humans are political in nature does FOSS help in
overcoming that instinct too.
FOSS and Employability specific in .in context : How community can play  +ve
role in Economy through employment and what it takes to get a Day job in
Alien world in the Context of Foss professionals.
FOSS and Cosumer Bahaviour across .in : What do i need FOSS for aka common
man does he perceive the same way as we are thinking.

all of these i suppose involve Human factor in some way , does it Qualify i
donna , just my 2 cents.


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Re: [Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

2009-12-26 Thread Saravanan S
Normal users don't have permissions to write there of the /var/www/
directory.
Either work as a super user, by using the command in command-line
sudo su

or change file permissions of  /var/www/ for testing at home :)

http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
http://www.december.com/unix/tutor/permissions.html

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Re: [Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

2009-12-26 Thread aishwarya .
>
> |
>
> hi sir there is problem on saving php files in ubuntu
>
> can any one tell is there any idea to save correctly
>
> it saying u could not save the file in var/www/kk.php
>

type $sudo nautilus in terminal, and enter the password.
$cd /var/www/
$gedit or geany filename.php

Hope this helps..



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