Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
is that the foss business model? -- regards kg What is a Foss Business model, if any? -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] i need to learn lamp stack ?
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Friday 07 May 2010 23:08:30 jaya kumar wrote: can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ? the original meaning of LAMP was Linux Apache Mysql and Perl. Now it has a generic meaning: L - any operating system like Linux, BSD, Solaris etc A - a webserver like apache, nginx, cherokee, lighttpd etc M - a database like Postgresql, sqllite or Mysql P - a scripting language like perl, python, ruby etc I thought Solaris' stack was SAMP, Mac was MAMP, Windows was WAMP and OpenBSD was OpAMP. I also heard something called GLAMP :-) -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: is that the foss business model? -- regards kg What is a Foss Business model, if any? -- Swapnil Bhartiya The commonly understood FOSS business model : You write software and release under FOSS licence. Charge customers for distribution costs, Consulting, Training and Support. FOSS Yellow Pages service you are building simply uses a commercial business model where you create a network of buyers and sellers. Then you try to monetise the traffic (eyeballs). You are using FOSS users / companies as the traffic. Best regards மா சிவகுமார் எல்லோரும் எல்லாமும் பெற வேண்டும் http://masivakumar.blogspot.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
The commonly understood FOSS business model : You write software and release under FOSS licence. Charge customers for distribution costs, Consulting, Training and Support. FOSS Yellow Pages service you are building simply uses a commercial business model where you create a network of buyers and sellers. Then you try to monetise the traffic (eyeballs). You are using FOSS users / companies as the traffic. I did not know there was FOSS vs Commercial. FOSS doesn't mean programming or working for free of cost. I also agree with that. In Yellow Pages, the nature of 'product' is different from packaged software. It is a service. There is no code base -- its database and content. Mukware already releases all its content under CCL3.0 unported -- so we are releasing our content (product) under the Free Software philosophy. In FOSS Yellow Pages, the community/readers will have *unrestricted* access to the database, that is our promise. By unrestricted I mean -- you won't have to pay or sign-up or register to access the database. However, companies who do business and make profit may not mind to get listed. Even if you are running a company you would rather choose a paid service than a free one. Skepticism is good but don't say we are 'using' FOSS users. There is no usage here as such. I hope I have made my point clear. By the way Katonda.com has no FOSS angle still we do a lot of advocacy stories and release all our content under CCL. Swapnil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: The commonly understood FOSS business model : You write software and release under FOSS licence. Charge customers for distribution costs, Consulting, Training and Support. FOSS Yellow Pages service you are building simply uses a commercial business model where you create a network of buyers and sellers. Then you try to monetise the traffic (eyeballs). You are using FOSS users / companies as the traffic. I did not know there was FOSS vs Commercial. FOSS doesn't mean programming or working for free of cost. I also agree with that. In Yellow Pages, the nature of 'product' is different from packaged software. It is a service. There is no code base -- its database and content. Mukware already releases all its content under CCL3.0 unported -- so we are releasing our content (product) under the Free Software philosophy. In FOSS Yellow Pages, the community/readers will have *unrestricted* access to the database, that is our promise. By unrestricted I mean -- you won't have to pay or sign-up or register to access the database. However, companies who do business and make profit may not mind to get listed. Even if you are running a company you would rather choose a paid service than a free one. Skepticism is good but don't say we are 'using' FOSS users. There is no usage here as such. I hope I have made my point clear. By the way Katonda.com has no FOSS angle still we do a lot of advocacy stories and release all our content under CCL. Swapnil One more point. Please do not spread information that Free Software or Open Source doesn't have any commercial angle. This is a dangerous point of view which makes our fight even harder. Open Source was coined as an alternative to Free Software and now there is FOSS. The entire exercise was to convince enterprises that Free Software or Open Source doesn't mean non-commercial or profit-less business model. The fight is against vendor-locks, restriction to code and a health sharing based society. By the way the Subject line of this mail chain has [commercial] in it. FOSS is a healthy, ethical business model. By sending out messages like FOSS vs Commercial or FOSS is against commercial gain is damaging the entire FOSS movement. Please do not do that. -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: The commonly understood FOSS business model : You write software and release under FOSS licence. Charge customers for distribution costs, Consulting, Training and Support. FOSS Yellow Pages service you are building simply uses a commercial business model where you create a network of buyers and sellers. Then you try to monetise the traffic (eyeballs). You are using FOSS users / companies as the traffic. I did not know there was FOSS vs Commercial. FOSS doesn't mean programming or working for free of cost. I also agree with that. In Yellow Pages, the nature of 'product' is different from packaged software. It is a service. There is no code base -- its database and content. Mukware already releases all its content under CCL3.0 unported -- so we are releasing our content (product) under the Free Software philosophy. In FOSS Yellow Pages, the community/readers will have *unrestricted* access to the database, that is our promise. By unrestricted I mean -- you won't have to pay or sign-up or register to access the database. However, companies who do business and make profit may not mind to get listed. Even if you are running a company you would rather choose a paid service than a free one. Skepticism is good but don't say we are 'using' FOSS users. There is no usage here as such. I hope I have made my point clear. By the way Katonda.com has no FOSS angle still we do a lot of advocacy stories and release all our content under CCL. I understand your point and I am not sceptical also. Merely pointing out that THIS service you are offering is not on FOSS business model as commonly understood. In most of yellow pages service, ordinary users get to use it FREE (without paying) and businesses pay. You are following the same practice. மா சிவகுமார் எல்லோரும் எல்லாமும் பெற வேண்டும் http://masivakumar.blogspot.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] i need to learn lamp stack ?
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Friday 07 May 2010 23:08:30 jaya kumar wrote: can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ? the original meaning of LAMP was Linux Apache Mysql and Perl. Now it has a generic meaning: L - any operating system like Linux, BSD, Solaris etc A - a webserver like apache, nginx, cherokee, lighttpd etc M - a database like Postgresql, sqllite or Mysql P - a scripting language like perl, python, ruby etc Do you want to say? L = *L*atest OpenSource OS A = *A*wesome web server M = *M*ing blowing Database P = *P*owerful server side scripting language. :) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
I understand your point and I am not sceptical also. Merely pointing out that THIS service you are offering is not on FOSS business model as commonly understood. In most of yellow pages service, ordinary users get to use it FREE (without paying) and businesses pay. You are following the same practice. Thanks I appreciate that. We do need a sustainable business model so that we can continue our fight against proprietary evil forces. * Patches -- The fight is against vendor-locks, restriction to code and a health sharing based society. By the way the Subject line of this mail chain has [commercial] in it. ++ The fight is against vendor-locks, restriction to code and sharing. By the way the Subject line of this mail chain has [commercial] in it. -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] i need to learn lamp stack ?
Do you want to say? L = *L*atest OpenSource OS A = *A*wesome web server M = *M*ing blowing Database P = *P*owerful server side scripting language. Add G to it...GLAMP G = *Grand* plan to set up a: L = *L*atest OpenSource OS A = *A*wesome web server M = *M*ing blowing Database P = *P*owerful server side scripting language. ;-) Swapnil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
On Saturday 08 May 2010 16:47:51 சிவகுமார் மா wrote: The commonly understood FOSS business model : You write software and release under FOSS licence. Charge customers for distribution costs, Consulting, Training and Support. actually the most common model which works is: sell it, free it. That is, someone pays you to write software and you convince that person to release it under a foss/oss license. You sell support, setup distribution etc. Software that is written to 'scratch the itch' is rarely commercially successful. A classic example of sell it free it is Koha. -- regards kg http://livejournal.com/lawgon ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
On Saturday 08 May 2010 05:22 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: One more point. Please do not spread information that Free Software or Open Source doesn't have any commercial angle. This is a dangerous point of view which makes our fight even harder. Open Source was coined as an alternative to Free Software and now there is FOSS. The entire exercise was to convince enterprises that Free Software or Open Source doesn't mean non-commercial or profit-less business model. The fight is against vendor-locks, restriction to code and a health sharing based society. By the way the Subject line of this mail chain has [commercial] in it. ++1. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
hi to all i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version how i know LAMP stack installed in my o/s or not ? it is inbuilt featured with ubuntu o/s or we need to be installed ? what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ? i need mysql and php to practice for web development ? is there any separate command for each ex:- mysql and apache and php ? or else it will combinely in one pack (i,e) lamp stack ? do i need net connection to download these packages to my o/s or else just i add on these package ? later after installing please can any one tell how to start the php and mysql and apache in my system before i going to work out ? please tell me sorry for asking so many questions ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:55 PM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version ... what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ? A web search can provide you the answers by yourself. The first result in a google search for ubuntu lamp installation is this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies Learning to search the web and helping yourself is an extremely useful skill for any IT person. Recommend that you devote time and effort into improving your Google skills. - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] DVD DRIVE LOADS DATA CD AS BLANK CD
HI, i have a HCL LAPTOP. My dvd drive loads all the cds i insert as data cds. The cds where working well on the same system earlier. should i reinstall my driver. i am using ubuntu 9.04. if i should reinstall my driver how can i do that. i tried googling,but could not get the correct solution. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] mount failed.. ubuntu 10.04
From the day I installed ubuntu 10.04 I am facing this problem. was trying to sort out through googling and irc but couldnot be succesful. when I boot my system to lucid it shows some error as (with the logo of ubuntu) *ubuntu . . . . the disk dirve for /dos is not yet ready or not present continue to wait; or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery* when I press M I get something like this: *Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintainance shell will now be started contorl-D will terminate this shell and contunue booting after re-trying file systems. Any further error will be ignored. r...@chandan-laptop:~#:* I tried some mounting commands but didnt work out. For time sake I am just skipping the mounting and doing my job. Its in fact affecting nothing. It shows all the partitions in linux. after skipping once it show same problem for /window partition too. so i got to skip twice. please suggest. `chandan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] OAOD (wxFormBuilder)
Application: wxFormBuilder What it is: wxFormBuilder is a GUI designer for programs which use wxWidgets. It is a very WYSIWYG designer, because it uses the actual controls to show the result, not some fake representation. Features: Features include generation of C++ or XRC code, custom plugin support, and import of XRC code. To know more about: http://wxformbuilder.org/ To install: sudo apt-get install wxformbuilder -- நன்றி , தஸ்தகீர்.அ Kanchi Linux User Group Rocks ! http://kanchilug.wordpress.com My Works on Linux http://dowithlinux.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mount failed.. ubuntu 10.04
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:42 AM, chandan gupta gupta.chand...@gmail.com wrote: From the day I installed ubuntu 10.04 I am facing this problem. was trying to sort out through googling and irc but couldnot be succesful. when I boot my system to lucid it shows some error as (with the logo of ubuntu) *ubuntu . . . . the disk dirve for /dos is not yet ready or not present continue to wait; or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery* when I press M I get something like this: *Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintainance shell will now be started contorl-D will terminate this shell and contunue booting after re-trying file systems. Any further error will be ignored. r...@chandan-laptop:~#:* I tried some mounting commands but didnt work out. For time sake I am just skipping the mounting and doing my job. Its in fact affecting nothing. It shows all the partitions in linux. after skipping once it show same problem for /window partition too. so i got to skip twice. It seems that before upgrade, you had two partitions being mounted at /dos and /windows. With this upgrade, those partitions are gone and hence you are getting the error. As you say it is not affecting anything (check whether you had a Windows partition with any important files), you can ignore it. To avoid this error message: edit /etc/fstab and remove lines corresponding to /dos and /windows. (sudo vi /etc/fstab , be careful to remeve only these two lines). மா சிவகுமார் எல்லோரும் எல்லாமும் பெற வேண்டும் http://masivakumar.blogspot.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
