Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 18 June 2010 08:40:09 Shrinivasan T wrote:
> Why there is no theory paper?
> 
previously there were only theory papers in the open source initiative - we 
have now introduced lab.

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Shrinivasan T]

Good News.

Why there is no theory paper?

Without knowing the concepts, will it be easy to do them in practical?



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Re: [Ilugc] WINE is not visible in Applications Menu.

[sivakumar bharadhwaj]

Sir,

Excellent.  It was just the right answer.
-
I cut & pasted the article :

i don't know about kde (using gnome) but in gnome when you manually delete a
menu item like wine it writes an entry to /home//.config/menus/applications.menu
 Code:

wine-wine

/home/doug/.local/share/desktop-directories


remove the 
maybe kde does the same thing
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One small thing to note was : that there were applications.menu 4 copies, 0,
10, 11 & 12.  I changed the menu as directed in the last copy i.e,
applications.menu12.

It just worked sir.

Thanks very much. (In fact I was planning to reinstall 10.04 on this sunday,
if this problem was not sorted out before).

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[Ilugc] OAOD (Electric)

[Dhastha Gheer]

Application: Electric

What it is:

Electric is a sophisticated electrical CAD system that can handle many
forms of circuit design, including custom IC layout (ASICs), schematic
drawing, hardware description language specifications, and
electro-mechanical hybrid layout.

To know more about:

http://www.staticfreesoft.com/electric.html

To install:

sudo apt-get install electric
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[Ilugc] Indian Python Software Society

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

hi,

as most of you may know, an all India society by the above name has been 
registered mainly for the purpose of conducting the annual pycon india 
conference and also to promote python in India. A separate mailing list has 
been created to discuss the affairs of the society. It is here:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ipss
further information about the society may be obtained here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/CategoryIndianPythonSoftwareSociety

anyone interested is welcome to join the mailing list
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 18 June 2010 05:38:51 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/18/2010 05:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > how come this problem does not arise with thousands of other gmail users
> > on mailing lists?
> 
> I have no idea.

well now it seems to have got fixed - I pressed reply and got the list. I have 
a feeling you are pressing 'reply to all' in gmail as I notice some of your 
mails are to me and cc to the list.

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 06/18/2010 05:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> how come this problem does not arise with thousands of other gmail users on 
> mailing lists?
>   

I have no idea. 

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 12:41:40 Raja Subramanian wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Rajesh kumar
> 
>  wrote:
> > is there any way to install packages using yum without root permission.
> > as i install using source packages in my local directory.
> 
> I do this a lot of the time on my Debian shared hosting provider
> servers. 
> 

surely with the current price of a vps, you should shift to a vps hosting and 
avoid these problems?
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 12:40:41 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > btw, I find that pressing 'reply' to any message from you to the list
> > results  in a private message to you - can you not change that for list
> > mail. I remember once pressing reply, and you were not happy to have the
> > discussion offlist - and I never realised it had gone offlist.
> >   
> 
> I don't control that.   Gmail does.
> 

how come this problem does not arise with thousands of other gmail users on 
mailing lists?
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus- link to download

[K.P. Senthil Kumar]

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/CSE_08.04.10_24042010.pdf


Here you go..

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Yuvi Panda  wrote:

> http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL
> FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf [pdf link] is the Anna
> University Syllabus for 6-8 semesters, B.E Computer Science for those
> admitted during/after 2008 (includes me). I'm excited to see that they
> have something called "Open Source Lab" there - in the 7th semester.
> And it is not an elective, but a compulsory course. Thanks to the
> NRCFOSS guys :)
>
> Next step would be finding ways to kick out TC :D
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[K.P. Senthil Kumar]

It's a great news !

Senthil

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Yuvi Panda  wrote:

> http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL
> FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf [pdf link] is the Anna
> University Syllabus for 6-8 semesters, B.E Computer Science for those
> admitted during/after 2008 (includes me). I'm excited to see that they
> have something called "Open Source Lab" there - in the 7th semester.
> And it is not an elective, but a compulsory course. Thanks to the
> NRCFOSS guys :)
>
> Next step would be finding ways to kick out TC :D
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[சிவகுமார் மா]

2010/6/18 Yuvi Panda :
> Ouch. Wrong Link YET AGAIN.
>
> http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/CSE_08.04.10_24042010.pdf
> -> Most definitely the correct link

Cool! Hats off to NRCFOSS!!

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

Ouch. Wrong Link YET AGAIN.

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/CSE_08.04.10_24042010.pdf
-> Most definitely the correct link


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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

2010/6/18 சிவகுமார் மா :
> This file does not have any reference to Open Source Lab in the 7th
> semester. Is it in CSE syllabus? Could not find it in the website.

Ouch, wrong link again.

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[சிவகுமார் மா]

2010/6/18 Yuvi Panda :
> Okay, color me stupid. GMail is messing up the formatting because the
> URL had a 'SPACE' in it.
>
> http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf
> (should work)

This file does not have any reference to Open Source Lab in the 7th
semester. Is it in CSE syllabus? Could not find it in the website.

Thanks and best regards,

Ma Sivakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Jeyanthan  wrote:
> You would have used some URL Shortener services (like bit.ly) before
> sharing such a long link to get rid of these kind of spacing issues :)

I don't quite like the extra layer of indirection - though it would've
been apt here. More reason I should get my personal url shortener
working fast ;)

> Anyways it's worth sharing those issues with us !

I thought ILUGC mailing lists weren't the place for long, scathing
personal rants. However, whoever maintains Anna University's Website
needs to get a clue, and find their own head fast.

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Jeyanthan]

> http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf


You would have used some URL Shortener services (like bit.ly) before
sharing such a long link to get rid of these kind of spacing issues :)

Anyways it's worth sharing those issues with us !

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

Okay, color me stupid. GMail is messing up the formatting because the
URL had a 'SPACE' in it.

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL%20FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Arun SAG  wrote:
> Link ain't working.

Well, apparently that's what I get when my university insists on me
doing the following before I can get a link to a PDF:

1. Showing the link in a slow moving upwards marquee on their site
with both useful and utterly useless links mangled together
2. Said link actually pointing to a Microsoft Word Document, making me
open them in OpenOffice
3. Right Click -> Edit Hyperlink -> Copy (since I haven't quite
managed to find out a way to get downloaded file's URL from Chrome)

Proper Link is:

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL
FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/CSE_08.04.10_24042010.pdf

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Arun SAG]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Yuvi Panda  wrote:

> >http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL
> >FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf
>


Link ain't working.
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[Ilugc] Open Source Lab in the Anna University Syllabus

[Yuvi Panda]

http://www.annauniv.edu/academic/ALL
FILES_V_VIIISEM/ICE/VITOVIIISEM/ECE24042010.pdf [pdf link] is the Anna
University Syllabus for 6-8 semesters, B.E Computer Science for those
admitted during/after 2008 (includes me). I'm excited to see that they
have something called "Open Source Lab" there - in the 7th semester.
And it is not an elective, but a compulsory course. Thanks to the
NRCFOSS guys :)

Next step would be finding ways to kick out TC :D

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Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Find out active IPs in a Linux LAN

[Mehul Ved]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
> If you are on a LAN and wish to find out which computers in it
> currently have access to that certain LAN,
> you can use the following command:
>
> for ip in $(seq 1 254); do ping -c 1 192.168.1.$ip>/dev/null; [ $? -eq
> 0 ] && echo “192.168.1.$ip UP” || : ; done
>
> This will ping each computer on the 192.168.1.x subnet one time, with
> a one second interval between pings.
> The output should be something like
>
> 192.168.1.1 UP
> 192.168.1.17 UP
> 192.168.1.24 UP
> …
>
>
> Alternatively, you can use netdiscover:
>
> sudo apt-get install netdiscover
> netdiscover -r 192.168.1.0/24

Another option is fping.
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[Ilugc] Monitoring Forge [http://monitoringforge.org] -Community Site by GWOS

[Jobin]

I am newbie to the ILUG group, please excuse me, if my few questions given
below are lame...

   1. How many folks, have heard about http://monitoringforge.org/
   2. Has any one registered in this site? If so, when and which project did
   you join?
   3. Is there any useful content/information provided in the site, is it of
   any use for admin/networking folks?
   4. Is this a site, which you would recommend to other folks?

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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[Victor Johnson]

Thanks anthoni shogan,

> Kenneth Gonsalves is the front man of NRCFOSS.
> He can be reached at law...@thenilgiris.com and he's part of this list too.

Love to see how many teams have been formed by them.

Do I need to mail him personally, to get this details?
I dont think it is good.

Not only kenneth, Many of them will be in the list.
Hope so.

Do you people meet them in the monthly meeting?

Thanks.

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Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Find out active IPs in a Linux LAN

[Varrun Ramani]

2010/6/17 சிவகுமார் மா 

>
> Another way is to use nmap
>
> nmap 192.168.1.0-255
>

nmap package is pretty heavy. The first script with no dependencies is
probably the best way(out of the box).

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Re: [Ilugc] how to view all the commands executed in mysql prompt

[Usha Murali]

hi thanks for  giving me solution instanlty !!

Is'nt there any shortcuts  to be executed in mysql prompt itself ?

for eg.  in psql i give \s in psql prompt to get all my command history
like that

Thanks once again!!




On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Salvadesswaran P.S. <
salvadesswa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 16:55, Usha Murali  wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > can any one just tell how to view all the commands executed in mysql
>  prompt
> >
>
> You can accomplish this by:
>
> $ cd ~
> $ cat .mysql_history
>
> This is similar to .bash_history file that is logged for each user.
> You can direct the history to another log file by using:
>
> $ export MYSQL_HISTFILE=/home/webtest/dblog
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[chidambaresan sakthi]

Hai,

National FOSS Club
www.necfossclub.blogspot.com 
mailing list : 
http://groups.google.co.in/group/*nationalfossclub*

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[Ilugc] OAOD (Supertuxkart)

[Dhastha Gheer]

Application: Supertuxkart

What it is:

SuperTuxKart is an enhanced version of TuxKart, the kart racing game
originally done by Steve Baker, featuring Tux and a bunch of his
friends. SuperTuxKart is the work of the GotM run for TuxKart at
happypenguin.org. Due to some disagreements that happened in that time
this fork of TuxKart was done.

Features:

 - new characters
 - new tracks
 - a completely new user interface
 - some smaller graphical improvements (skidmarks, smoke, animated wheels, etc.)

To know more about:

http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/

To install:

sudo apt-get install supertuxkart
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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[chidambaresan sakthi]

Hai,

National FOSS Club
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mailing list : 
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Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Find out active IPs in a Linux LAN

[சிவகுமார் மா]

2010/6/17 Shrinivasan T :
> If you are on a LAN and wish to find out which computers in it
> currently have access to that certain LAN,
> you can use the following command:
>
> for ip in $(seq 1 254); do ping -c 1 192.168.1.$ip>/dev/null; [ $? -eq
> 0 ] && echo “192.168.1.$ip UP” || : ; done
>
> This will ping each computer on the 192.168.1.x subnet one time, with
> a one second interval between pings.
> The output should be something like
>
> 192.168.1.1 UP
> 192.168.1.17 UP
> 192.168.1.24 UP
> …
>
>
> Alternatively, you can use netdiscover:
>
> sudo apt-get install netdiscover
> netdiscover -r 192.168.1.0/24
>
> This will scan all the computers in that particular address range and
> present the active ones
> in a table that also provides a MAC address and a MAC Vendor line.
>

Another way is to use nmap

nmap 192.168.1.0-255

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[Ilugc] [Tip] Find out active IPs in a Linux LAN

[Shrinivasan T]

If you are on a LAN and wish to find out which computers in it
currently have access to that certain LAN,
you can use the following command:

for ip in $(seq 1 254); do ping -c 1 192.168.1.$ip>/dev/null; [ $? -eq
0 ] && echo “192.168.1.$ip UP” || : ; done

This will ping each computer on the 192.168.1.x subnet one time, with
a one second interval between pings.
The output should be something like

192.168.1.1 UP
192.168.1.17 UP
192.168.1.24 UP
…


Alternatively, you can use netdiscover:

sudo apt-get install netdiscover
netdiscover -r 192.168.1.0/24

This will scan all the computers in that particular address range and
present the active ones
in a table that also provides a MAC address and a MAC Vendor line.

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Re: [Ilugc] WINE is not visible in Applications Menu.

[Shrinivasan T]

Hi,

No idea on how it is missed.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650738

Look at the above page.
It gives various options on adding it manually.

Try it and update the results here.

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[Ilugc] Digital Literacy Project at Chennai.

[Dhakshina Moorthy K . M . - தக்ஷிணா மூர்த்தி , க . மோ .]

I received an invitation for " Recognition of toppers - Midtown's Digital 
Literacy Project"

And this is what they do.
www.digitalliteracyexnora.in
http://www.digitalliteracyexnora.in/AboutContent.htm
http://www.digitalliteracyexnora.in/BDL%20English%20Sample/index.htm

This is run by
Rtn. K.B.Sridhar
Chairman – Midtown’s Digital Literacy Project
Rotary Club of Madras Midtown, RI District 3230
His email is sridhar at indiss dot co dot in

Looks like they have no idea on FOSS.
I request for any Rotarian in this list, to interact with him on how he can use 
FOSS to "digital literate" more individuals with less funds.

Dhakshina Moorthy, K.M.

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[Ilugc] WINE is not visible in Applications Menu.

[sivakumar bharadhwaj]

Dear All,

Installed Wine - initially using Ubuntu Tweak, but when tried using it,
could not find it in the applications menu.  Logged out & restarted 3 / 4
times, still the same problem.  then used synaptic to uninstall, and then
reinstall.  Still the Wine is not appearing in Applications menu.  Logged
out & Logged in, rebooted 3 times, still the same problem.

Using 10.04 on my laptop.

In the Synaptic Menu it is showing that Wine 1.0 & Wine 1.0-gecko both are
installed.

What could be the problem.

with warm regards

s.sivakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] How to bring more people to ilugc meets?

[Raman.P]

--- On Thu, 17/6/10, Arun Khan  wrote:
> sivakumar bharadhwaj
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Also, in my humble opinion, LUG could really help :
> those who just started
> > using Linux, and those who want to start using linux.
>  If we can have a
> > session of 15 minutes at every LUG meet - only for
> clearing the doubts, It
> > can be the most silliest thing too.
> .
> > Those who come and attend - if they come to know all
> these, they will start
> > experimenting, and also will be able to feel more
> confident, and also feel
> > belonging to the mighty LUG.
> .
> > Even if one new person comes comes to the LUG meet
> every month - just like
> > sabarimala - kannisami.  He will bring in one more
> new person the next
> > month.
> 
> This is an excellent idea.  I have seen such a thing
> done by The
> Chicago Computer Society.  In it's monthly meet, the
> first agenda item
> was Q&A for 30-45 mins.   Any computer
> related question was welcome;
> the attendance used to be high 40+

Such discussions do take place in regular monthly meet. We normally keep that 
as last item.

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Re: [Ilugc] how to view all the commands executed in mysql prompt

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 16:55, Usha Murali  wrote:
> hi,
>
> can any one just tell how to view all the commands executed in mysql  prompt
>

You can accomplish this by:

$ cd ~
$ cat .mysql_history

This is similar to .bash_history file that is logged for each user.
You can direct the history to another log file by using:

$ export MYSQL_HISTFILE=/home/webtest/dblog




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Re: [Ilugc] How to bring more people to ilugc meets?

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, sivakumar bharadhwaj
 wrote:
>
> Also, in my humble opinion, LUG could really help : those who just started
> using Linux, and those who want to start using linux.  If we can have a
> session of 15 minutes at every LUG meet - only for clearing the doubts, It
> can be the most silliest thing too.
.
> Those who come and attend - if they come to know all these, they will start
> experimenting, and also will be able to feel more confident, and also feel
> belonging to the mighty LUG.
.
> Even if one new person comes comes to the LUG meet every month - just like
> sabarimala - kannisami.  He will bring in one more new person the next
> month.

This is an excellent idea.  I have seen such a thing done by The
Chicago Computer Society.  In it's monthly meet, the first agenda item
was Q&A for 30-45 mins.   Any computer related question was welcome;
the attendance used to be high 40+

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[Ilugc] how to view all the commands executed in mysql prompt

[Usha Murali]

hi,

can any one just tell how to view all the commands executed in mysql  prompt

Thanks,
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Re: [Ilugc] magic of qemu

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> On 06/17/2010 11:54 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
>> I can run many instances of qemu in it without hardware acceleration
>> with KVM or whatever.
>>
>
> Qemu without hardware acceleration is unusably slow as a virtualization
> solution.  It is a very flexible tool but performance is not a strong
> point.

+1 For Proof of Concept and on the desktop qemu is perhaps OK but
definitely not for production servers.

Besides, both AMD and Intel server hardware come with hardware
virtualization - so may as well drive the VMs @ 200 Km/h rather than
50 Km/h :)

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Re: [Ilugc] in mysql master slave architecture, how to find if both are in sync

[Usha Murali]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts

regards,
Usha
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote:

> Usha Murali wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>> in mysql  master slave  architecture,how to find if both of them  are in
>> sync...
>>
>>
>
> If you mean a replicated MySQL setup by 'master-slave architecture', it's
> as simple as doing an insert/update/delete on the master and checking if the
> slave got the change or not. If not, something went wrong.
>
> Make sure you didn't make any changes to the master since you took the
> mysql binary log position. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
> carefully retrace the steps listed here, you should be good:
>
> http://www.howtoforge.com/mysql_database_replication
>
> If those steps are not entirely clear, this is where you can also refer to
> (if you're using a more recent mysql version like 5.1, check the relevant
> docs for that version):
>
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication-howto.html
>
>
> Vamsee.
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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[Anthoni Shogan]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 12:46 PM, Victor Johnson wrote:

Hope NRCFOSS people are in this list.
   


Ofcourse they are.
Kenneth Gonsalves is the front man of NRCFOSS.
He can be reached at law...@thenilgiris.com and he's part of this list too.

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Raja Subramanian]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Rajesh kumar  wrote:
> [rkarthige...@pc176 ~]$ apt-get install zlib
> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

Can't do that!  Here's what I do:


$ cd ~/opt
$ apt-cache show zlib1g
Package: zlib1g
...
Filename: pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.3.3.dfsg-12_amd64.deb
...

$ wget http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.3.3.dfsg-12_amd64.deb

$ ar x zlib1g_1.2.3.3.dfsg-12_amd64.deb && tar zxf data.tar.gz

$ find usr/
usr/
usr/share
usr/share/doc
usr/share/doc/zlib1g
usr/share/doc/zlib1g/changelog.gz
usr/share/doc/zlib1g/copyright
usr/share/doc/zlib1g/changelog.Debian.gz
usr/lib
usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3.3
usr/lib/libz.so.1


In your ~/.bash_profile, set the following
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/opt/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export PATH=~/opt/bin:~/opt/usr/bin:$PATH

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Re: [Ilugc] How to bring more people to ilugc meets?

[Baskar Selvaraj]

>

> > Eppidi intha ideas? ;)
> >
> > Super but I am quite sure such ideas will do no good.
> >
>
> I do agree. But what happened to Bharathi's idea of Conducting Summer
> Workshop
>

Though my reply to this thread/discussion is not relevant to the subject, I
am sure that, this might help us to understand what students/staffs think
about Linux/FOSS in colleges.

Just I wanted to share my experiences I had during my visit to few districts
in Tamilnadu  in the past few days (Districts Visited: Namakkal, Erode,
Coimbatore, Thanjavur, Trichy)

A college in Namakkal decided to conduct summer courses on topics like J2EE,
.NET, Multimedia, Soft Skills and finally on Linux Administration too.

The no. of registrants were J2EE - above 90, .NET - around 55, multimedia -
around 45 and soft skills - around 70 and imagine for linux administration
it was just 14.

I was requested to take up the Linux administration course (7 full days
continously) and myself made a  request to the college/dept. authorities to
give complete control of the Lab for all sort of experiments by their
students who have taken up the Linux Administration course.

On the first day, I covered the Fedora-13 installation (via network and
kickstart) and asked all the students to install the same via network on
their PCs and everyone installed on their own without looking at others
(some students tried more than few times) and PULLED OUT all the multimedia
packages from the rpmfusion repository (which was part of my install box).
The next day, the strength was increased to 18 and many students notebooks
from hostel got into dept. lab and now students were busy installing
Fedora-13 in all their notebooks and took the complete Fedora-13 everything
repository (17,500+) packages and started distributing among themselves.

The feedback from a girl student was like this:  Sir, I feel working on
linux much easier than windows.

Second day, the feedback from Dept./Staffs was that, all further lab
practicals can be done using FOSS tools for CSE/IT/MCA/MSc.(SE) depts.

Next, I moved from Namakkal to Erode and met the principal Dr. Arun Parwate
of Erode Sengunthar Engineering College and discussed about Linux/FOSS and
he called up the HODs of CSE/MCA/MSc and we discussed about, doing a Faculty
Development Program for all dept. staffs.

Then, I moved to J.J. College of Engineering and Technology, Trichy and
discussed with Director in implementing FOSS in their institutions.  Myself,
sivabalan, Director, Principal, HODs of CSE/IT/MCA decided to implement FOSS
lab setup in all the dept. labs and also to conduct a FOSS awareness program
for all the students of CSE/IT/MCA in the next month.

Now, @ Periyar Centenary Polytechnic College (Autonomous), Thanjavur, where
I have setup a Fedora-13 Everything repository server for remote
installation in all client Desktops and the dept. of CT/IT have started
doing their practicals using FOSS tools and within a year, they would be
completely switching to FOSS environment (thanks to Mr. Karthick-IT/HOD for
his co-operation in implementing FOSS throughout the dept.) and also given a
talk to IT/CT students about the importance of using FOSS tools for their
practicals (as I am one of the Programme Advisory Committe member in this
institution for the dept. of CT/IT)

It is our strong commitment for education, ensuring that, no Proprietary
Softwares / Tools to be used in engineering / technical education and
everything need to be done using FOSOSS (Free / Open Source Operating System
/ Softwares) and we look forward everyone's help/support in conducting
FOSOSS workshops/awareness programmes/FDP in all colleges/institutions
throughout Tamilnadu.

Thanks and regards.

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CEO/LinuXpert Systems
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rajesh kumar]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Raja Subramanian wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Rajesh kumar
>  wrote:
> > is there any way to install packages using yum without root permission.
> as i
> > install using source packages in my local directory.
>
> I do this a lot of the time on my Debian shared hosting provider
> servers.  I've installed custom PHP, Python, and lot of other
> smaller binaries/applications from the deb binaries directly.
>
> I have absolutely no root access, so no chroot, sudo or
> other hacks.
>
> I have a ~/opt folder inside which I extract all my debs and
> manually move the the files into place.
>
> Set $PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (for the .so libraries), and
> set manually the config file path to your binaries eg.
> "-c ~/opt/etc/foo.conf".
>
> You'll have to manually resolve pkg dependencies, etc.
>
> The same method should work for any linux distro.
>
> What applications/packages are you wanting to install?
>
>
I have installed apt-rpm locally but

still it depends on root repos, where can i change this

[rkarthige...@pc176 ~]$ apt-get install zlib
E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
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Re: [Ilugc] hide a process

[Raja Subramanian]

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:51 PM, venkat raman  wrote:
>               if i am running a process in rhel5, i dont want the process
> should be monitor by top command.Is there any way,pls suggest me..

You may be interested in the grecurity kernel patch www.grsecurity.net.
It adds significant security, isolation and auditing features to the kernel.

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Re: [Ilugc] magic of qemu

[Saravanan S]

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

>
> Qemu without hardware acceleration is unusably slow as a virtualization
> solution.  It is a very flexible tool but performance is not a strong
> point.
>

+1, My first project officially was Safe Browsing Environment, that's
heavily on Virtualization.
We initially started with qemu for its light weight, but the performance was
way too slow without kQemu(the accelerator module for qemu).

Then we had to switch to VirtualBox for the only reason that kqemu doesnot
work on 64-bit :(

I accept qemu is good and we were surprised to see the snapshot feeature
working just fine, but the performance is little bad.

And also Qemu doesnot support Hardware virtualization, yes it is an
emulator. i know.

The safe browsing environment on QEMU was not safe from key loggers, but
virtualbox did that fine :)

For home users with 32-bit systems, QEMU is really good :)


Saravanan Sundaramoorthy
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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[Victor Johnson]

My son told that NRCFOSS organization
is in touch with many colleges and
it is doing may foss activities.

Hope NRCFOSS people are in this list.

Hope they can reply here.

I think I am not wrong.
I joined one month ago and
watching the list.

Thanks a lot for the wonderful services.

Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rajesh kumar]

This is what i am trying to do it now.

I have installed apt-rpm in my local directory, but still it needs etc and
var, just figuring how to change these root directory dependencies.

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:43 AM, sivakumar  wrote:

> Yep it is going to be a waste of space !!. +1 on the above.
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 06/17/2010 12:13 PM, sivakumar wrote:
>> Yum does support a --installroot option which you can use to install
>> packages into a chroot which might be some location under your home
>> folder.  Maintaining a clean chroot like that wastes a lot of space
>> however.  
>> 
> My guess one would not be able to use yum without root permissions. To
> my belief yum needs permissions to update the repo data, hence it might
> fail. which means we might need yum itself in a different location which
> will not depend on files which are on /etc, /var, etc.
>   

Err,  avoid guessing.  I know this method works because we use it
extensively in Fedora to actually build packages using a system called Mock

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Raja Subramanian]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Rajesh kumar
 wrote:
> is there any way to install packages using yum without root permission. as i
> install using source packages in my local directory.

I do this a lot of the time on my Debian shared hosting provider
servers.  I've installed custom PHP, Python, and lot of other
smaller binaries/applications from the deb binaries directly.

I have absolutely no root access, so no chroot, sudo or
other hacks.

I have a ~/opt folder inside which I extract all my debs and
manually move the the files into place.

Set $PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (for the .so libraries), and
set manually the config file path to your binaries eg.
"-c ~/opt/etc/foo.conf".

You'll have to manually resolve pkg dependencies, etc.

The same method should work for any linux distro.

What applications/packages are you wanting to install?

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 06/17/2010 12:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>
> not only in ubuntu - in any distro, the first user - they guy who installs 
> the 
> system gets the root password. And unless he gives it to anyone else, no one 
> else has it. Ubuntu just has a weird way of doing this.
>   

Traditionally, it isn't assumed that the first user is the same as the
administrator installing the system in the first place

> btw, I find that pressing 'reply' to any message from you to the list results 
> in a private message to you - can you not change that for list mail. I 
> remember once pressing reply, and you were not happy to have the discussion 
> offlist - and I never realised it had gone offlist.
>   

I don't control that.   Gmail does.

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[சிவகுமார் மா]

2010/6/17 Rahul Sundaram :
> On 06/17/2010 11:54 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>
>>> Fedora doesn't use sudo by default so no.  Unless he has root access in
>>> the first place, he wouldn't be allowed to configure sudo.
>>>
>>>
>> I seriously doubt whether any distro would allow it
>>
>
> Well on a Ubuntu system for example,  sudo  su -  and entering your own
> password would get your root access if you are first user in the
> system.  This would allow you to reconfigure sudo however you want.

In Ubuntu, the first user is root for all practical purposes. Any
privileged application can be launched by the first user by entering
their own password and getting sudo rights.

This just makes it easier for a single user to manage their system
without asking them to login as root.

Yes, Ubuntu also allows it only to the first user (who has root privileges).


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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 06/17/2010 12:00 PM, Rajesh kumar wrote:
>
>> This should not be a serious issue since why can a local user have
>> 
> permission to install a package locally.
>   

It is a more complex problem than it might seem at first glance but it
can be solved if someone motivated enough is wiling to step up and
contribute. 

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Re: [Ilugc] List of FOSS clubs

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Magesh S  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> > www.jayafossclub.org
>>
>> > www.avitfossclub.org
>>

GLUGOT from Thiagarajar college of Engineering,
Madurai. It's been conducting monthly meetings and organsing LDDs for
its students.

Website: http://glugot.tce.edu
Mailinlist archive: https://lists.tce.edu/pipermail/glugot/


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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 11:59:04 murali babu wrote:
> for fedora u have give
> -> su
>  -> give passwd
>   -> then yum list all
> 

why are you repeatedly top posting?? and this is what happens of fedora:
[law...@xlquest djangogolf]$ su
Password:
su: incorrect password

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 11:56:19 Rajesh kumar wrote:
> This should not be the case, if we can able to install pacakges from source
> method why cant we use yum to install it.
> 

please avoid top posting - the whole thread gets messed up
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[sivakumar]

> Yum does support a --installroot option which you can use to install
> packages into a chroot which might be some location under your home
> folder.  Maintaining a clean chroot like that wastes a lot of space
> however.  

My guess one would not be able to use yum without root permissions. To
my belief yum needs permissions to update the repo data, hence it might
fail. which means we might need yum itself in a different location which
will not depend on files which are on /etc, /var, etc.


> You might want to talk to your office sys admin instead. 

Yep it is going to be a waste of space !!. +1 on the above.



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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 17 June 2010 12:01:16 you wrote:
> On 06/17/2010 11:54 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> >> Fedora doesn't use sudo by default so no.  Unless he has root access in
> >> the first place, he wouldn't be allowed to configure sudo. 
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > I seriously doubt whether any distro would allow it
> >   
> 
> Well on a Ubuntu system for example,  sudo  su -  and entering your own
> password would get your root access if you are first user in the
> system.  This would allow you to reconfigure sudo however you want. 
> 

not only in ubuntu - in any distro, the first user - they guy who installs the 
system gets the root password. And unless he gives it to anyone else, no one 
else has it. Ubuntu just has a weird way of doing this.

btw, I find that pressing 'reply' to any message from you to the list results 
in a private message to you - can you not change that for list mail. I 
remember once pressing reply, and you were not happy to have the discussion 
offlist - and I never realised it had gone offlist.
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 06/17/2010 11:56 AM, Rajesh kumar wrote:
> This should not be the case, if we can able to install pacakges from source
> method why cant we use yum to install it.
>   

Essentially because RPM is designed for an user with root access.   One
could argue that needs to be changed and perhaps it can be. 
http://rpm.org if you are interested in sending patches :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Yum without Root Permission

[sivakumar]

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:58 +0530, sivakumar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 02:09 -0400, Rajesh kumar wrote:
> > My problem is that i dont have root permission in my system in office. I
> > need to install some packages for my development, usually i used to download
> > the source, install using ./configure --perfix=path to my local directory,
> > and use make and make install, i have added my local bin directory to
> > bash.rc file so that i can use all the installed commands.
> > 
> > Similar way i need to use YUM to install in my local repos, because its very
> > difficult to install a source having toomuch of dependencies .

Probably chroot, yum --installroot and rpm --root --initidb are the
search keywords for you.

I think this is what you need to do. [1]

1. chroot 
2. install yum in the local path (using src installation)
3. build rpm db for the new chroot using rpm --root 
--initidb
4. install the base packages yum –installroot= -y
groupinstall base 
5. install any package using yum install --installroot=


you can try google about the above steps. Below are few links which came
quite close.
http://www.crc.id.au/xen-performance-guide/
http://serverfault.com/questions/146483/yum-install-in-chroot-directory
http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=385

[1] Disclaimer: I have not tested the steps myself



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