Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Ramaswamy S]

>
> most of these 'community' editions are toys hung out to attract
> customers.
>

OT, but glad to know that people have caught on to 'opencore'.

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Re: [Ilugc] jquery vs ext core

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:00 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> jQuery does not suck.

I did not say Jquery sucks - I said the documentation sucks.
>  It requires genius to use it.

So my question is: what do ordinary mortals like me use?
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Re: [Ilugc] jquery vs ext core

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 12:37 +0530, Rajesh kumar wrote:
>> I have been using Jquery for the past two years and Ext Js for past 6
>> months. When compared to Extjs i feel jquery as my home.
>
> if you like jquery so much, why are you using ext js?

I dunno boys. What to say.

I am certainly not a web developer. I love jQuery and cannot think of
anything else in its place.

It is almost as sweet as Lord Murugan in the Hindu pantheon.

So you know what I mean.

I have not even heard of extjs.

jQuery does not suck. It requires genius to use it. Again just like Murugan who
stands for knowledge.

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Re: [Ilugc] jquery vs ext core

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 12:37 +0530, Rajesh kumar wrote:
> I have been using Jquery for the past two years and Ext Js for past 6
> months. When compared to Extjs i feel jquery as my home. 

if you like jquery so much, why are you using ext js?
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Re: [Ilugc] Script attack

[Rajesh kumar]

Try webscarab...

http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_WebScarab_Project



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> how to check my site to prevent it from the script attacks.any tool??
>
> 2010/12/8 Balaji Narayanan (பாலாஜி நாராயணன்) 
>
> > On 7 December 2010 17:57, sri vats  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >  > > height=1style='visibility:hidden;'>.
> > >
> > > This line of code got injected in my index.php files and affected my
> > > site.Have you experienced this kind of script attack?
> > >
> > > Did anybody know more information about this attack?Please share your
> > > thoughts.
> > > *FYI*:Please do not visit the visions7 url.It may affect you!
> >
> > If this code is on your server, the best way is to audit the entire
> > code or even better, wipe it off and restore from a backup or version
> > control. You will never know what other changes were done on the
> > server.
> >
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Re: [Ilugc] jquery vs ext core

[Rajesh kumar]

Kenneth,

Jquery is the most easiest javascript framework than others.
Ext Js is one of the best Javascript Framework,
When we are developing application say PHP application we can use jquery
with php. But if we are using Exj Js it will be PHP with Extjs.

Jquery is much faster than extjs. Extjs takes too much of time to load, but
works fast.

Jquery is also well documented.

I have been using Jquery for the past two years and Ext Js for past 6
months. When compared to Extjs i feel jquery as my home.

I can customize anyway i can.

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wrote:

> hi,
>
> I have been using jquery for some years now, but was always struggling
> with the documentation and understanding how to do things - I thought it
> was because I did not know javascript properly. Now a person who is a js
> expert told me that jquery documentation sucks and advised me to check
> out ext core which is very well documented. Any experiences and advice
> on this?
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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:59 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>  wrote:
> 
> > does that mean that redhat does not have a centralised DMS? Or is it
> a
> > bad idea for a company to have one?
> 
> To answer the second question first.
> 
> I think that the idea that a company should have a single set of
> application stack is a good one. It enables and empowers the IT
> department. However, the agility that is provided by a set of systems
> within a variety is also something that teams benefit from. As long as
> data is not kept within silos making it difficult to cross-talk,
> variety could probably be encouraged.
> 
> The answer to the first part of the question, like I mentioned
> earlier, is that there is no single system. 

this looks good:

http://www.openkm.com/Technology.html
pros:
1. no separate 'community' edition
2. supports postgresql
cons:
1. Java (but then the company that it is for is infested with java guys)
2. GPL (but then I will not be contributing code so it is not a real
issue)


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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Rajagopal Swaminathan]

Greetings,

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Gourav Shah  wrote:
>
> You may also want to look at Alfresco Community Edition
> http://www.alfresco.com/community/

+10

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> does that mean that redhat does not have a centralised DMS? Or is it a
> bad idea for a company to have one?

To answer the second question first.

I think that the idea that a company should have a single set of
application stack is a good one. It enables and empowers the IT
department. However, the agility that is provided by a set of systems
within a variety is also something that teams benefit from. As long as
data is not kept within silos making it difficult to cross-talk,
variety could probably be encouraged.

The answer to the first part of the question, like I mentioned
earlier, is that there is no single system.



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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:38 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>  wrote:
> 
> >> On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS -
> Wordpress,
> >> Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc
> >
> > what does Redhat use for DMS?
> 
> There isn't a single answer to that question :) Hence I listed out all
> the ones I end up accessing during the course of a day. The variety is
> driven by differing requirements and needs of each deployment.
> 
> 

does that mean that redhat does not have a centralised DMS? Or is it a
bad idea for a company to have one?
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[Ilugc] My ubuntu 10.X getting crash in my Laptop while installing the following jasper packages

[Arulalan T]

Dear All,

When I installed these packages alone and restarted my ubuntu os on Hp
Pavilion dv2700 laptop, ubuntu got crashed.

Its like, I can see only the tty1. but cant type anything to login.


   1. jasper
   2. libjasper-dev
   3. libjasper-java
   4. libjasper-runtime
   5. openjpeg-tools

My ubuntu got crashed more than 8 times, whenever I installed the above
packages.

Last time, I checked with Linux Mint distro on IBM Lennova laptop also. That
also crashed.

But last time, I recovered the Linux Mint back to normal, by removing those
packages completely
by using live cd.

I need to install jasper library for installing pygrib [1] & [2].

Do any one experienced like this problem.

Do any one know more about jasper ?

If anybody willing to install these packages and will try it means,
please post your experience too.

So that we can report about those packages to ubuntu development team.


[1] http://code.google.com/p/pygrib/
[2] http://code.google.com/p/pygrib/wiki/LinuxMacInstallation
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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

>> On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS - Wordpress,
>> Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc
>
> what does Redhat use for DMS?

There isn't a single answer to that question :) Hence I listed out all
the ones I end up accessing during the course of a day. The variety is
driven by differing requirements and needs of each deployment.

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:23 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> > I *had* heard of these two sources, but why I asked on this list is
> for
> > practical experiences - what are you people using and what is your
> > experience
> 
> On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS - Wordpress,
> Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc

what does Redhat use for DMS?
> 
> > the more features the better - but these two are the main ones. The
> > first because it makes it easier for other applications to talk to
> the
> > system and the second because it ensures that the devels are working
> on
> > the version we are using.
> 
> These are perfectly nice things to have since it would, which I
> believe you are hinting at, allow you and the developers to build
> applications around the base product. 

most of these 'community' editions are toys hung out to attract
customers.
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[JAGANADH G]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Venkatraman S  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:15 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:
>
> >
> > Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_search
> >
>
> Not sure whether you have heard of Powerset which was gulped by Microsoft.
> http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/powerset-mathematical-pun.html
>
> OTOH, word sense disambiguation is a NP-hard problem.
>
>
There are ways to obtain good results for Word Sense Disambiguation

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I *had* heard of these two sources, but why I asked on this list is for
> practical experiences - what are you people using and what is your
> experience

On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS - Wordpress,
Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc

> the more features the better - but these two are the main ones. The
> first because it makes it easier for other applications to talk to the
> system and the second because it ensures that the devels are working on
> the version we are using.

These are perfectly nice things to have since it would, which I
believe you are hinting at, allow you and the developers to build
applications around the base product.


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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[Venkatraman S]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:15 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

>
> Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_search
>

Not sure whether you have heard of Powerset which was gulped by Microsoft.
http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/powerset-mathematical-pun.html

OTOH, word sense disambiguation is a NP-hard problem.

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:11 +0530, Gourav Shah wrote:
> > I am looking for a standards based open source document management
> > system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs
> dspace.
> > What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and
> is
> > a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in
> the
> > closed version and a token 'community' version).
> >
> 
> I Suggest KnowledgeTree Community Edition
> http://www.knowledgetree.org/Main_Page
> 
> You may also want to look at Alfresco Community Edition
> http://www.alfresco.com/community/ 

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:07 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>  wrote:
> 
> > I am looking for a standards based open source document management
> > system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs
> dspace.
> > What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and
> is
> > a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in
> the
> > closed version and a token 'community' version).
> 
>  is a
> reasonably updated list of Content Management (and I realize that
> you've specifically asked for Document Management) systems. The tables
> show the licenses as well. The other option is to look at
>  and arrive at a reasonable set of choices.

I *had* heard of these two sources, but why I asked on this list is for
practical experiences - what are you people using and what is your
experience

> 
> While you specify two criteria - are there more ? For example,
> granular ACL based on roles, export of content and so forth.
> 
> 

the more features the better - but these two are the main ones. The
first because it makes it easier for other applications to talk to the
system and the second because it ensures that the devels are working on
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[JAGANADH G]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Venkatraman S  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:03 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:
>
> >
> > If somebody brings semantic search (fullfledged ) in to practice that
> will
> > be a Google Killer ;-)
> >
>
> Define 'semantic search' plz.
>
>

Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_search
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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Gourav Shah]

> I am looking for a standards based open source document management
> system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs dspace.
> What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and is
> a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in the
> closed version and a token 'community' version).
>

I Suggest KnowledgeTree Community Edition
http://www.knowledgetree.org/Main_Page

You may also want to look at Alfresco Community Edition
http://www.alfresco.com/community/


Thanks
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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I am looking for a standards based open source document management
> system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs dspace.
> What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and is
> a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in the
> closed version and a token 'community' version).

 is a
reasonably updated list of Content Management (and I realize that
you've specifically asked for Document Management) systems. The tables
show the licenses as well. The other option is to look at
 and arrive at a reasonable set of choices.

While you specify two criteria - are there more ? For example,
granular ACL based on roles, export of content and so forth.



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[Ilugc] document management system

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

hi,

I am looking for a standards based open source document management
system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs dspace.
What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and is
a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in the
closed version and a token 'community' version).
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[Ilugc] jquery vs ext core

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

hi,

I have been using jquery for some years now, but was always struggling
with the documentation and understanding how to do things - I thought it
was because I did not know javascript properly. Now a person who is a js
expert told me that jquery documentation sucks and advised me to check
out ext core which is very well documented. Any experiences and advice
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Re: [Ilugc] How to redirect the web site using "squid"

[karthick g]

Thanks your reply sir

But actually my need  how to redirect the website for www.google.com to
redirect www.yahoo.com using squid
whenever the client machine trying to  google.com its automatically goes to
yahoo.com.
which line need to add in squid.conf file plz give the some idea

Thanks lot



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> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:02 PM, karthick g 
> wrote:
> > Dear friends
> > How to redirect the web site using "squid" in redhat5.0
> >
>
> You can redirect your web traffic using the proxy settings in IE or FF.
>
> Point it to port 3128 and give the IP of the squid proxy machine.
>
> The other thing would be to do transparent proxying which will not
> need you to configure on every browser.
>
> For that you need to redirect outgoing web traffic to localhost 3128 if
>  the squid machine is the same as gateway router.
>
> -Girish
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[Venkatraman S]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:03 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

>
> If somebody brings semantic search (fullfledged ) in to practice that will
> be a Google Killer ;-)
>

Define 'semantic search' plz.
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[JAGANADH G]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Venkatraman S  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> wrote:
>
> > > Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
> > > difference !!
> >
> > excellent example
> >
>
> I do not think so; people do not generally search for single terms, and
> even
> if they do,
> how many times do you think people google for apple with the fruit in mind,
> most of the
> cases it is 'apple' as in a company.
>
>
No search Engine is capable enough to infer this . While throwing a keyword
or phrase to a search engine there is a "searchers/ users intention" .
Computer systems can't make any inference about the 'intention'.



> Cognitive sciences and psychology affect technology a lot; and companies
> which take
> advantage of this would be the winner.
>
>

I do agree . So why Search Engines like Google provides autosuggest and
related features


> Google is a verb now ;



It is more than a verb now . We can say there is a "googilization" (like
globalization ) and people  addicted to it.




Search Engines like DDG, Hakia, Blekko etc has considerable difference from
Google . Google respects all the SEO professionals and others considers the
real content in the webpage ;-) .

DDG tries to disambiguate the search term and try to classify it . The same
thing is applied in Hakia in a different way . All we follows a circular
search behaviour in Google . DDG and others tries to reduce the cycle in
obtaining the desired search result. There is an interesting book called
"Search Patterns" . Reading the book may give more insight to this .


If somebody brings semantic search (fullfledged ) in to practice that will
be a Google Killer ;-)


> DDG is good, but not great. Do I like it? Yes(esp the Duck).  Will I use
> it?
> No.
>
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[Venkatraman S]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> > Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
> > difference !!
>
> excellent example
>

I do not think so; people do not generally search for single terms, and even
if they do,
how many times do you think people google for apple with the fruit in mind,
most of the
cases it is 'apple' as in a company.

Cognitive sciences and psychology affect technology a lot; and companies
which take
advantage of this would be the winner.

Google is a verb now ; any search engine to enter into this space and gain
the marketshare has to have a
significant value add, and i do not see any of the existing ones to be
comparable with that
of Google. There can be search engines related to niche areas which present
data in a
different way - but note that here the stress would be more on the
'presentation layer' as the UI has to be
tweaked according to the audience's interest(for eg. patents, lawsuits,
genomes, census data)
(generation of suitable metadata for indexes etc is implied).

DDG is good, but not great. Do I like it? Yes(esp the Duck).  Will I use it?
No.

-V
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 19:14 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote:
> Google is not end of the Search Engine Technology. DuckDuckGo has its
> own
> unique features that Google will not provide.
> Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
> difference !! 

excellent example
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Re: [Ilugc] how to create custom os distribution

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Mohan R  wrote:

> Take a look at live-build,
>
>http://live.debian.net/devel/live-build/
>
>
SchoolOS aim to remix (ubuntu, debian and fedora)
while Fedora work is in progress. Currently it contains Ubuntu remix - I
have updated sections.

http://wiki.schoolos.org/index.php?title=Create_SchoolOS(Ubuntu_based)_using_UCK

Using this you will be able to cusromise almost everything in ubuntu. do let
me know if you need any help in "Linux Remixing" and your purpose of
remixing.
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Re: [Ilugc] how to create custom os distribution

[Mohan R]

Take a look at live-build,

http://live.debian.net/devel/live-build/

Thanks,
Mohan R

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[Ilugc] nosql api plugin for mysql

[Raja Subramanian]

Here's some very interesting work done on MySQL (not sure
if this is FOSS, but interesting nevertheless):

http://yoshinorimatsunobu.blogspot.com/2010/10/using-mysql-as-nosql-story-for.html

This author has supplemented the SQL interface to MySQL
with a light weight NoSQL flavor.  His solution is 2 x faster
than memcached, while retaining the ACID features of
traditional MySQL.  Benchmarks show 750k queries per
second on commodity server hardware.

Best of all, there's already a Perl module to play with this :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Good Django web hosting in India

[Arun SAG]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Arun SAG  wrote:

>
> >I am planning to host a django website in an Indian server. I am not
> looking for VPS or dedicated server as i believe it >must be costly. The
> hosting provider must be running nginx. He must support adding extra
> batteries to django on >request. The latency must be less to Indian users.
> Please help me in picking up the best.
>
>

I see, two django friendly webhoster's in India at
http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoFriendlyWebHosts
http://www.sgdnetworks.com/ and http://www.unichost.com/cpanel-hosting.php ,
any one has experience hosting django web portals with them?
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[கோபிநாத் சுப்ரமணியன ்]

its good one...

Thankz & Regards...
Gobinath.S



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM, karthick babu  wrote:

> i typed Apple, the result was terrific. Looks like DDG is good
>
> Regards,
> Karthick Babu
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:14 PM, JAGANADH G  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Parin Sharma  > >wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/19/10, karthick babu  wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > DuckDuckGo may be good in terms of privacy, Position your product as
> > > > security/privacy enabled Search engine
> > > It is not my product but ya it is takes care of security and privacy!
> > > > Dont position your product as another search engine like Google,
> which
> > > > doesnt make any sense
> > > It is what DDG people have written on their site may be to make people
> > > understand more easily because some people even don't know what is a
> > > search engine!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Google is not end of the Search Engine Technology. DuckDuckGo has its own
> > unique features that Google will not provide.
> > Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
> > difference !!
> >
> > --
> > **
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[karthick babu]

i typed Apple, the result was terrific. Looks like DDG is good

Regards,
Karthick Babu

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:14 PM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Parin Sharma  >wrote:
>
> > On 12/19/10, karthick babu  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > DuckDuckGo may be good in terms of privacy, Position your product as
> > > security/privacy enabled Search engine
> > It is not my product but ya it is takes care of security and privacy!
> > > Dont position your product as another search engine like Google, which
> > > doesnt make any sense
> > It is what DDG people have written on their site may be to make people
> > understand more easily because some people even don't know what is a
> > search engine!
> >
> >
>
> Google is not end of the Search Engine Technology. DuckDuckGo has its own
> unique features that Google will not provide.
> Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
> difference !!
>
> --
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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[JAGANADH G]

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Parin Sharma wrote:

> On 12/19/10, karthick babu  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > DuckDuckGo may be good in terms of privacy, Position your product as
> > security/privacy enabled Search engine
> It is not my product but ya it is takes care of security and privacy!
> > Dont position your product as another search engine like Google, which
> > doesnt make any sense
> It is what DDG people have written on their site may be to make people
> understand more easily because some people even don't know what is a
> search engine!
>
>

Google is not end of the Search Engine Technology. DuckDuckGo has its own
unique features that Google will not provide.
Try throwing the keyword "Apple" in Google and DuckDuckGo and feel the
difference !!

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Re: [Ilugc] Bid ByeBye to Google Search, say DuckDuckGo!

[Yogesh Girikumar]

2010/12/20 Roshan Mathews 

> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 19:28, Yogesh Girikumar 
> wrote:
> > Are you sure? I used to be as paranoid. What if I strongly encrypt  my
> data
> > using a secure public key crypto algorithm? (openssl? GPG?). Will it not
> > 'secure' my data?
> >
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462


Heard about that via slashdot. Paranoia hits the ceiling!! ;)

>
>
> You can 'trust' that your data is safe.  In which case you must read
> "Reflections on Trusting Trust":
> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html


Good read. Thanks. ( Paranoia hits the sky )

Yogesh. G
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Re: [Ilugc] How to redirect the web site using "squid"

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:02 PM, karthick g  wrote:
> Dear friends
>                 How to redirect the web site using "squid" in redhat5.0
>

You can redirect your web traffic using the proxy settings in IE or FF.

Point it to port 3128 and give the IP of the squid proxy machine.

The other thing would be to do transparent proxying which will not
need you to configure on every browser.

For that you need to redirect outgoing web traffic to localhost 3128 if
 the squid machine is the same as gateway router.

-Girish


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[Ilugc] How to redirect the web site using "squid"

[karthick g]

Dear friends
 How to redirect the web site using "squid" in redhat5.0

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[Ilugc] Conducted a Workshop on Python at Rajalakshmi Engg College Chennai

[Shrinivasan T]

Rajalakshmi Engineering College, Chennai is conducting a 3 day
workshop on Python Programming.

I handled the sessions on the Day 2  – Database Programming.
My friend Sriram handled Object Oriented Programming.

The college conducts a lot of open source workshops and the management
shows much interest on the FOSS advocacy through the students
community.

It is a good sign of change in the growth of FOSS in the academic
world in Tamilnadu.

The students were already trained in python shell, Vim editor, ipython
and other python basics.

I gave a small intro to python using this presentation.
http://www.slideshare.net/arulalan/python-an-intro

They wondered to know that python can do a lot of things including
game, AI, GUI and database programming.

Explained how to start mysql server, how to login to mysql shell, how
to create database, how to create table and view the data.

Then moved to ipython shell, import MySQLdb, create connection and
cursor, execute the SQL queries and the parse the results.

Sriram explored the Object Oriented Programming in Python.
He explained Classes, Objects, Private methods, constructor,
destructor and inheritance etc.

As the sessions were practical with handson, It is so good to see the
students learning Python very fast and they start to build small
applications with their own ideas.

Gave intro to Indian Linux Users Groups, Chennai [ http://ilugc.in ]  and
ChennaiPy  [ http://groups.google.com/group/chennaipy?pli=1 ]
Requested to join the mailing list and to attend the monthly meetings.

Thanks for the great initiative by the college management.
Thanks to Benetict Nicholas and Swaminathan for the arrangements.

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Re: [Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:58 +0530, vellingiri wrote:
>   I googled , not able to get the clear idea . Please anyone help me.

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=dbconfig-common  <--- this may help
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Re: [Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:18 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote:
> Is it me, or is there really no text in this email?

no text - only pictures
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[Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

[sasi]

hi,
Please anybody give me suitable direction how to create schema using
dbconfig-common module in debian packaging.  I found the way to execute
normal sql files, but I would not be able to create any schema.

I have gone through the following link.

http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbconfig-common-using.html/ch-develguide.html#s-import

I googled , not able to get the clear idea . Please anyone help me.


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Re: [Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

[Abishek Goda]

Hi,

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Re: [Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

[Roshan Mathews]

Maybe you're sending HTML mail which is getting eaten up.  See if you
can send a plain text email.

Roshan

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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan]

Sorry. If this is against the list's guidelines.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 14:33 +0530, Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan wrote:
>> → Knowledge of Flash, XML, Web Server,  CPanel , Photoshop, Front-page
>> and Dreamweaver would be an advantage.
>
> please avoid such things on this list - if necessary kindly put it on
> your web page and provide a link offlist to potential employees.
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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan]

You got me. Serves me right. :( I should have paid more attention.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 15:34 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
>> There is something wrong about the post for sure though I can't say
>> what...
>
> OOPS concepts?
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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 15:34 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> There is something wrong about the post for sure though I can't say
> what...

OOPS concepts?
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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Girish Venkatachalam]

There is something wrong about the post for sure though I can't say what...

-Girish

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have the following openings in our R&D department.
>
> If you are interested please send your resume to ilamparith...@vepl.com.
>
> If you know someone who might be interested, please forward this mail to them.
>
> --
> Regards,
> M.Ilamparithi
>
> About  the company:
> We are Valued Epistemics Pvt Ltd.  (www.vepl.com), providers of
> www.GREedge.com – an online academy that provides training for the GRE
> exam.
> Started in April 2005 by alumnus of IIT, IISc, Purdue and former
> employees of Motorola and Nokia R&D centers, we have a strong R&D
> culture.
> We have been pioneers in developing m-learning and online learning,
> especially ‘millisecond monitoring’ technology that enables us to
> personalize the online learning experience based on the student needs
> and capabilities.
> Read more at:  http://www.greedge.com/people-behind/?menu=about
> GREedge in the media: http://www.greedge.com/media-center/
>
> About the R&D department:
> The R&D department develops all the technical solutions for the online
> learning academy – right from the customer facing website, smart
> analytical algorithms to the core learning platform.
> We function in a product design startup atmosphere where the member
> R&D directly works with the Marketing and Teaching functions of the
> company, understand the end user needs and then design smart
> solutions.
> The role will appeal to those who want to work in fast paced product
> development environment,  interacting directly with the customer
> facing departments of the company in a proactive manner to identify
> opportunities and design smart solutions in a timely manner.
>
> What can you expect from R&d...@vepl ?
> You will be exposed to the entire lifecycle of product development
> from conceptualization, to actual implementation, to end user trials.
> Besides, you get to be valuable member of a team consisting of smart
> like minded people, solving  real life  problems using cutting-edge
> technologies.
> In short, R&d...@greedge can offer you an environment to learn and
> contribute fast,  freedom to design your own product solutions, work
> in a small but charged up technology team.
> Read more at :  http://www.vepl.com/careers-rd.html
>
> If this sounds like the kind of job you would be interested, we'd love
> to hear from you!
> Remember, we expect the member of R&D to be a Self motivated quick
> learner, Proactive problem solver, Collaborative and high on Self
> Initiative.
>
> The openings are for the following positions in R&D.
>
> 1. Role: Member, R&D  (Website development)
>
> This role will be responsible for development of the customer facing
> website (www.GREedge.com)
>
> → 1-2 years of experience in development of next generation Websites
> and web-based applications
> → Should be passionate about developing user Interface designs that
> create Wow feeling !!!
> → Should have ability to understand end user behavior and accordingly
> design, develop and implement high-quality front end code in a timely
> manner
> → Should have good communication skills and aptitude
> → Should have strong experience in web development and object oriented
> programming
> → Strong expertise in technologies like PHP, HTML, JavaScript, CSS,
> AJAX is required. Expertise in Drupal programming will be a strong
> value add.
> → Knowledge of Flash, XML, Web Server,  CPanel , Photoshop, Front-page
> and Dreamweaver would be an advantage.
> → Experience in developing social networking features on the website
> and integrating with popular social networking sites like Facebook,
> Twitter or developing Facebook application will be an added advantage
> o Language: PHP5
> o Front End: JavaScript, CSS, XHTML
> o Databases: MySQL
> o JavaScript frameworks e.g. jQuery, ExtJS etc.
> The candidate should have the ability to actively engage with the
> marketing function of the company, understand the end user
> requirements and able to translate them into web features that have
> powerful impact on the end user (customer).
> He/she should be able to work in a dynamic work environment and should
> possess strong team working and interpersonal skills.
>
> 2. Role: Member, R&D   (Smart applications and tools for delivery of
> online learning)
> The role is responsible for  creating smart, efficient and scalable
> software systems to address the online learning needs.
>
> → Candidate should be from an engineering background with  0 - 1
> years Experience
> → Should have good communication skills and aptitude
> → Should be strong in Logical and Analytical  skills
> → Should have strong expertise in programming in PHP, Java and MYSQL
> → Good knowledge of Linux, Apache and application servers such as
> Tomcat and JBoss.
>
> The candidate should be a quick learner, enthusiastic about creating
> smart solutions in an energetic team working en

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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 14:33 +0530, Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan wrote:
> → Knowledge of Flash, XML, Web Server,  CPanel , Photoshop, Front-page
> and Dreamweaver would be an advantage. 

please avoid such things on this list - if necessary kindly put it on
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Re: [Ilugc] Script attack

[dinesh kumar]

how to check my site to prevent it from the script attacks.any tool??

2010/12/8 Balaji Narayanan (பாலாஜி நாராயணன்) 

> On 7 December 2010 17:57, sri vats  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >  > height=1style='visibility:hidden;'>.
> >
> > This line of code got injected in my index.php files and affected my
> > site.Have you experienced this kind of script attack?
> >
> > Did anybody know more information about this attack?Please share your
> > thoughts.
> > *FYI*:Please do not visit the visions7 url.It may affect you!
>
> If this code is on your server, the best way is to audit the entire
> code or even better, wipe it off and restore from a backup or version
> control. You will never know what other changes were done on the
> server.
>
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[Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] - Programmers Required

[Ilamparithi Mathiyalagan]

Hi,

We have the following openings in our R&D department.

If you are interested please send your resume to ilamparith...@vepl.com.

If you know someone who might be interested, please forward this mail to them.

--
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M.Ilamparithi

About  the company:
We are Valued Epistemics Pvt Ltd.  (www.vepl.com), providers of
www.GREedge.com – an online academy that provides training for the GRE
exam.
Started in April 2005 by alumnus of IIT, IISc, Purdue and former
employees of Motorola and Nokia R&D centers, we have a strong R&D
culture.
We have been pioneers in developing m-learning and online learning,
especially ‘millisecond monitoring’ technology that enables us to
personalize the online learning experience based on the student needs
and capabilities.
Read more at:  http://www.greedge.com/people-behind/?menu=about
GREedge in the media: http://www.greedge.com/media-center/

About the R&D department:
The R&D department develops all the technical solutions for the online
learning academy – right from the customer facing website, smart
analytical algorithms to the core learning platform.
We function in a product design startup atmosphere where the member
R&D directly works with the Marketing and Teaching functions of the
company, understand the end user needs and then design smart
solutions.
The role will appeal to those who want to work in fast paced product
development environment,  interacting directly with the customer
facing departments of the company in a proactive manner to identify
opportunities and design smart solutions in a timely manner.

What can you expect from R&d...@vepl ?
You will be exposed to the entire lifecycle of product development
from conceptualization, to actual implementation, to end user trials.
Besides, you get to be valuable member of a team consisting of smart
like minded people, solving  real life  problems using cutting-edge
technologies.
In short, R&d...@greedge can offer you an environment to learn and
contribute fast,  freedom to design your own product solutions, work
in a small but charged up technology team.
Read more at :  http://www.vepl.com/careers-rd.html

If this sounds like the kind of job you would be interested, we'd love
to hear from you!
Remember, we expect the member of R&D to be a Self motivated quick
learner, Proactive problem solver, Collaborative and high on Self
Initiative.

The openings are for the following positions in R&D.

1. Role: Member, R&D  (Website development)

This role will be responsible for development of the customer facing
website (www.GREedge.com)

→ 1-2 years of experience in development of next generation Websites
and web-based applications
→ Should be passionate about developing user Interface designs that
create Wow feeling !!!
→ Should have ability to understand end user behavior and accordingly
design, develop and implement high-quality front end code in a timely
manner
→ Should have good communication skills and aptitude
→ Should have strong experience in web development and object oriented
programming
→ Strong expertise in technologies like PHP, HTML, JavaScript, CSS,
AJAX is required. Expertise in Drupal programming will be a strong
value add.
→ Knowledge of Flash, XML, Web Server,  CPanel , Photoshop, Front-page
and Dreamweaver would be an advantage.
→ Experience in developing social networking features on the website
and integrating with popular social networking sites like Facebook,
Twitter or developing Facebook application will be an added advantage
o Language: PHP5
o Front End: JavaScript, CSS, XHTML
o Databases: MySQL
o JavaScript frameworks e.g. jQuery, ExtJS etc.
The candidate should have the ability to actively engage with the
marketing function of the company, understand the end user
requirements and able to translate them into web features that have
powerful impact on the end user (customer).
He/she should be able to work in a dynamic work environment and should
possess strong team working and interpersonal skills.

2. Role: Member, R&D   (Smart applications and tools for delivery of
online learning)
The role is responsible for  creating smart, efficient and scalable
software systems to address the online learning needs.

→ Candidate should be from an engineering background with  0 - 1
years Experience
→ Should have good communication skills and aptitude
→ Should be strong in Logical and Analytical  skills
→ Should have strong expertise in programming in PHP, Java and MYSQL
→ Good knowledge of Linux, Apache and application servers such as
Tomcat and JBoss.

The candidate should be a quick learner, enthusiastic about creating
smart solutions in an energetic team working environment.
This role requires working with subject matter experts to understand
the learning needs of the students and the issues associated with
online learning delivery. The role requires creating smart, efficient
and scalable software systems to address the online learning needs.
Deep interest in developing software systems for online learning
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[Ilugc] Fwd: [BangPypers] PyCon India videos up

[Venkatraman S]

FYI:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Noufal Ibrahim 
Date: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Subject: [BangPypers] PyCon India videos up
To: Bangalore Python Users Group 



Thanks to Sriram and others, I've managed to get the videos up onto
blip.tv.

The videos are at

   http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/37-pycon-india-2010-videos-are-up.

Please spread the word.

Thanks!
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