Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 02/02/2011 09:14 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> you are evading the point. First you say netbsd is in doldrums due to
> the BSD license where people are allowed to fork and not contribute
> back. 

> Then you quote a reference that has nothing to do with the license
> and attributes the problem to bad management - locking features so that
> only one person can work on it, and out of frustration people are
> forking or not contributing. When this is pointed out you say 'talk to
> NetBSD folk' - implying that they have told you that it is due to the
> license. Now you say license impact the nature of development among
> other things. Obviously it does - but in a minor way.

Yes, someone involved in NetBSD did tell me that the license impacted
their development and I think the license is a major attribute and not a
minor one.

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] grub problem error

[Elango Rangan]

Hi,
  I am using Ubuntu 10.4. I have two OS, when i updated ubuntu and 
later i restarted and faced the problem below:

 Error message:

Minimal BASH-like editing is supported. For the first word, TAB, lists possible 
command completions. Anywhere else 
TAB lines possible device or file completions.

grub:

How do i get the ubuntu desktop back?

Waiting for the solution!

Thanks & regards
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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Guruprasad]

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:45 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote:
>> > What are its disadvantages?
>>
>> You do not know what it leads you to, for one thing.
>
> in fact if you want to show off that you know how to make a url
> shortened link, the best practice is to put the full link first and then
> add the shortened link below.

Also the shortened URLs are susceptible to link rot. Imagine after a
couple of years some one searches for something in the mailing list
archive and finds a short URL which is broken because the service that
provided the shortening service has shortened down, though the actual
target URL might still exist.

Thanks & Regards,
Guruprasad
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[Ilugc] Fwd: Computer vision research internships at Google Bangalore (India)

[Venkatraman S]

Stumbled on this in one of the MLs. Hope it helps some of the students in
this list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: 
Date: Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Subject: Computer vision research internships at Google Bangalore (India)
To: ee-j...@mailman.stanford.edu


Jobs, Employment, and Career Opportunities in Engineering from Stanford.
---


Computer Vision Research Internships at Google Bangalore (India)

I have multiple openings available for summer internships at Google
Bangalore this year. The internships will be research oriented but with a
strong practical aspect to them. Projects will focus on problems relating
to image processing, pattern recognition and computer vision. Interns will
participate in cutting edge research and development in advanced video and
image processing systems, and the work will impact highly visible
Google products used by millions of people every day. Potential research
topics include image enhancement (super-resolution, de-blurring and
de-noising), image and video compression, temporal video analysis, 3D
reconstruction, segmentation and recognition.

Graduate students (PhD/MS/M.Tech) as well as strong undergraduates, with
a publication record and/or experience in computer vision, image processing
and pattern recognition areas, are preferred. Candidates must be passionate
and excited about their work, and eager to contribute to the state of the
art. Candidates must have strong programming skills, preferably using C/C++
on a Linux environment.

Interns placed in Google Bangalore get competitive compensation, free
furnished accommodation, and daily pick up and drop off service. Interested
students may directly contact me at kwa...@google.com.

Vivek Kwatra
Research Scientist
Google Research
Mountain View, CA (*visiting Google Bangalore in summer 2011)
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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:45 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote:
> >> > Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
> >> > links' ?
> >>
> >>
> > What are its disadvantages?
> 
> You do not know what it leads you to, for one thing. 

in fact if you want to show off that you know how to make a url
shortened link, the best practice is to put the full link first and then
add the shortened link below. 
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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:42 +0530, Manokaran K wrote:
> > > Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
> > > links' ?
> >
> >
> What are its disadvantages? 

url shortened links are evil - people should know what they are clicking
on.
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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Abishek Goda]

>> > Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
>> > links' ?
>>
>>
> What are its disadvantages?

You do not know what it leads you to, for one thing.

Abishek
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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Manokaran K]

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 00:28 +0530, akila...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM, ashwin kesavan
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We must use the above guidelines to maintain better
> > > readability, proper archives, efficient bandwidth
> > > usage, etc.
> > >
> >
> > Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
> > links' ?
>
>
What are its disadvantages?

regds,
mano
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[Ilugc] Nice wikipedia trick with perl

[Girish Venkatachalam]

Dear folks,

I have never cottoned on to command line browsing or even text mode
browsing with lynx.

I only use dict which is a command line app to look up meanings of
English words and even tech terms.

However here is a way to do a command line dump of Wikipedia pages.

First install WWW::Wikipedia perl module. How you do it is your
choice. One possibility is this:

# cpan WWW::Wikipedia

or

# perl -MCPAN -e 'install WWW::Wikipedia;'

Once you do that just run this:

--begin script--
  use WWW::Wikipedia;
$text = shift;
 my $wiki = WWW::Wikipedia->new();
   my $entry = $wiki->search( $text );
   print $entry->fulltext();

---end script---

Run it like this:


$ perl w.pl india

to find out about India.

In fact my favorite topic Hindu philosophy is brilliantly dealt with
in wikipedia.

-Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 00:28 +0530, akila...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM, ashwin kesavan
> wrote:
> 
> > We must use the above guidelines to maintain better
> > readability, proper archives, efficient bandwidth
> > usage, etc.
> >
> 
> Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
> links' ? 

+1
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Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 19:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 02/01/2011 03:26 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 14:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html 
> >>> this mail has nothing whatsoever to do with license or
> contributing
> >> back
> >>> or anything.
> >> I am not relying only on the mail.  Feel free to talk to the
> NetBSD 
> > they are saying that the failure of netbsd is due to the wrong
> license?
> 
> Not the wrong license but the license does impact the nature of
> development among other things.
> 
> 

you are evading the point. First you say netbsd is in doldrums due to
the BSD license where people are allowed to fork and not contribute
back. Then you quote a reference that has nothing to do with the license
and attributes the problem to bad management - locking features so that
only one person can work on it, and out of frustration people are
forking or not contributing. When this is pointed out you say 'talk to
NetBSD folk' - implying that they have told you that it is due to the
license. Now you say license impact the nature of development among
other things. Obviously it does - but in a minor way.

the key thing that impacts development is the number and quality of
developers. The more the developers or the better the developers, the
better the development - regardless of license. If you work well with
your developers and make them feel at home - and at the same time you
have strong vision and clear goals, you get a great project. We had a
discussion on the list some time back which showed that the development
of GCC etc was for a long time hindered by RMS's attitude and only took
off when he was kicked upstairs. 

Apache and it's family does great because they attract and keep
developers with apache license, python does the same with BSD license,
linux does the same with GPL.
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Re: [Ilugc] Reg: ONLINE

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, sathiya s  wrote:
> i have instaled debian linux in my pc .
> wher  its showing as network cable is wired  ...
> but i could not able to make use of it though i am fresher  for linux ...
> mine  is data one dsl moderm  can any one help me out  how to config it

dataone?

Good. I use that.

Just run

# dhclient eth0

as root on Linux. Also check if the MODEM datalink lights are glowing.

Then try,

# ping gmail.com

and see if you get replies.

Welcome to Linux!

-Girish


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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[akila...@gmail.com]

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM, ashwin kesavan wrote:

> We must use the above guidelines to maintain better
> readability, proper archives, efficient bandwidth
> usage, etc.
>

Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened links' ?

-- 
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(http://www.coding-aviator.blogspot.com)
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[Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

[ashwin kesavan]

MailingList Guidelines

1. English is the medium of communication in this mailing list, so use
only english in the mailing list. For people wanting to expressing
themselves in Tamil, ILUGC's Tamil mailing list exist. For joining ILUGC Tamil:
http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc.tamil

2. Use a proper subject line.

3. Do not troll in the mailing list

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

4. Use [OT] for off-topic, non-technical discussions.
But, don't misuse this to start flame wars or to troll
in the mailing list.

5. Do not top-post:

Because it messes up the order in which
people normally read text.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

Example of a top-post:

> > Why is top-posting
> > such a bad thing?
Top-posting.
> > What is the most
> > annoying thing in e-mail?

Use interleaved, trimmed posting

Hi,
--- Foo Bar wrote:
> could design good
> application forms using tex

Sure.

> CTAN doesn't seem to give me anything.

Check this example (Observing Time Application Form):
http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/observing/applicationForms.php

--
Bar Foo

6. Do not over-quote:

Example of an over-quote:

>>> On Friday you said
>>> blah blah blah
>> On Saturday you said
>> foo foo foo
> On Sunday you said
> foobar

7. Do not post HTML messages

8. Do not recycle messages

9. Do not send attachments

10. Do not attach obnoxious, nonsensical legal
disclaimers. If your company uses disclaimers, don't
use your company ID for the mailing list.

11. Do not reply to a digest. (If you are in digest
mode and want to reply to a post use ILUGC Gmane blog
interface.

Link:
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc

12. Search for answers for your questions/problems in
any search engine before posting
your query to the mailing list.

13. Do not post messages in all capital letters. Mails
in CAPS is considered rude and is similar to shouting
during a conversation.

14. Following these guidelines could be helpful
http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/

15. Don't send season's greetings or birthday or social networking site
invites to the group. Its not mailing list etiquette.

We must use the above guidelines to maintain better
readability, proper archives, efficient bandwidth
usage, etc.

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[Ilugc] Reg: ONLINE

[sathiya s]

i have instaled debian linux in my pc .
wher  its showing as network cable is wired  ...
but i could not able to make use of it though i am fresher  for linux ...
mine  is data one dsl moderm  can any one help me out  how to config it

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Re: [Ilugc] Web based office suite recommendation

[kish]

Thanks everyone.

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---
Esse Quam Videri
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Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 02/01/2011 03:26 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 14:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html 
>>> this mail has nothing whatsoever to do with license or contributing
>> back
>>> or anything.
>> I am not relying only on the mail.  Feel free to talk to the NetBSD 
> they are saying that the failure of netbsd is due to the wrong license?

Not the wrong license but the license does impact the nature of
development among other things.


Rahul

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[Ilugc] LINUX USERS GROUP at PUDUCHERRY

[Prasath Ramachandiran]

Hi Friends,

We are proud to announce that we, the FOSS lovers, started

*“LINUX USERS GROUP at PUDUCHERRY – PuduvaiLUG"*

http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/

on 30th January’2011 under the guidance by coordinator of ILUGC

*Mr. Shrinivasan T*

Shrini gave a wonderful presentation on
*“Introduction on FREE OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARES (FOSS)”*

at Puducherry.

Nearly 200 students registered, and almost 180 students attended this
seminar,

At the end of this great presentation by him,  we started PUDUVAILUG &
created PuduvaiLUG mailing lists.

*How to join in PuduvaiLUG mailing List?*

* *

http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/joining-the-mailing-list/



*How to send mail to PuduvaiLUG Mailing List?*



http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/how-to-post-your-queries-or-informations-in-mailing-list/



Join your hands with PuduvaiLUG, starts receiving mails



*“Share your knowledge about FOSS with US…”*

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[Ilugc] Have a plan to configure LVM on Amazon EBS

[Nirmalya Lahiri]

Hi everyone,
I have a plan to configure LVM on Amazon EBS. Elastic Block Store(EBS) is 
actually the disk drives of Amazon EC2 Instance.

I planed in this way because in future if I want to extend the size of disk 
size, I can do that..

I want to know, if anyone have any better idea than LVM on Amazon EC2 cloud 
environment. Because configuring LVM on physical server environment is a common 
option. But I want this on Amazon EC2 environment.

I am waiting for a better idea.

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[Ilugc] Reg: SVN_PREVENT

[Rajesh Kumar]

Hi all



  I am using Centos SVN 1.6.15.  I need to prevent *empty message comments* &
*extension* (.pdf, .doc, .exe) in my svn server. How to do work in
pre-commit. Please assist me.



Regards



B.Rajeshkumar

09894943041.
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Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 14:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html 
> > this mail has nothing whatsoever to do with license or contributing
> back
> > or anything.
> 
> I am not relying only on the mail.  Feel free to talk to the NetBSD 

they are saying that the failure of netbsd is due to the wrong license?
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Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 02/01/2011 11:03 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 21:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> what happened to netbsd? as far as I can see it is still alive and
>>> kicking. So what is the problem?
>> Alive, yes.  Kicking,  not really.  They had a big problem not too
>> long
>> ago where the organizations working with NetBSD were doing proprietary
>> forks without channelling those changes back and essentially stalling
>> the development almost entirely.   This mail was from one of the
>> founders of NetBSD btw. 
>>
>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html 
> this mail has nothing whatsoever to do with license or contributing back
> or anything.

I am not relying only on the mail.  Feel free to talk to the NetBSD
people. 

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] configuring proxy on yum.conf

[manoj kumar]

>On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Vikram Vincent wrote:

> >Hello,
> >I'm looking for docs where I can configure yum.conf to work behind a proxy
> >and I can't seem to find examples. Synaptic pkg manager has a easy GUI
> option.
> >Debian has an entry at /etc/apt/apt.conf
> >Acquire::http::Proxy "http://username:password@ip_address:port/";
>

This should work[1]. It worked for me.

[1] goo.gl/G0WYy
 
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Re: [Ilugc] configuring proxy on yum.conf

[Vikram Vincent]

On 1 February 2011 14:09, Raja Mahalingam  wrote:
> I think this may help
> it works for my fedora behind squid proxy

Thank you.  I'll pass this along to my students.
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Re: [Ilugc] configuring proxy on yum.conf

[Raja Mahalingam]

I think this may help u

it works for my fedora behind squid proxy

# The proxy server - proxy server ip or FQDN :port number
proxy=http://mycache.mydomain.com:3128
# The account details for yum connections if auth required else skip
below 2 lines
proxy_username=yum-user   //username
proxy_password=qwerty //password


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Vikram Vincent wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm looking for docs where I can configure yum.conf to work behind a proxy
> and I can't seem to find examples. Synaptic pkg manager has a easy GUI
> option.
> Debian has an entry at /etc/apt/apt.conf
> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://username:password@ip_address:port/";
> Current Fedora based pkg managers do not seem to have such an option or am
> I
> missing something?
> Thanks,
> --
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> 080 4012 9072
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