[Ilugc] More on freshers planning a startup
Hi all, One word of caution. I would recommend people sticking to facts rather than anecdotes. The golden image of college dropouts starting successful companies if the exception and not the rule. For every successful college dropout, there will be 200 failures. Do not compare yourselves to Bill Gates, Steve jobs, Dell etc. Bill Gates was from a VERY wealthy family with a LOT of connections. Steve Jobs had a team of experienced people from Xerox and stuff, Dell was running the business for some time as a student before he quit. Also US has way more opportunities in terms of funding and entrepreneur support. I would like to remind Karthik that these are really young and impressionable people and I would advise caution. I have built a sustainable business based on FOSS consulting. Been through a lot of ups and downs. Starting up sounds sexy but there is a lot of risk - it takes talent, a lot of hard work, adaptability, a very strong heart and most importantly dollops of luck. Yes. Luck plays a pretty important part. Also the potential entrepreneurs should understand the there will be a lot of advise on this forum but if your business fails, at the end of the day, you have to feed yourself and pay your own bills. If you try to go back to a job, it will be tougher both for you and potential employers. You will not have any hard skills and for the other skills, prospective employers will be under the impression that you will quit as soon as you have the next great idea. The thrill of entrepreneurship is that bottom-line responsibility rests with you and that exactly is the risk too. Be aware that you are risking your life. Better do it with more preparation. And maturity counts in biz more than anything else. Also working for companies will tell you what it takes to do biz. This is a myth. The history of startups shows us that the best entrepreneurs were neither mature nor experienced when they started out If anything, the history of college-dropout entrepreneurs shows us that understanding a specific customer need and build a kickass product to address it is the best way to build a startup. K. C. Ramakrishna www.rknowsys.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] drupal
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jai ganesh jaiganesh1...@gmail.com wrote: I am a newbie to drupal. I just want to know can i do any projects with this ( i know of creating a website other than this) A friend of mine has built a custom Manufacturing Resource Planning (MRP) system based on the Drupal engine and it has been in production since 2007. To go beyond building web sites, you need to have a fairly deep understanding of Drupal. Once you understand the architecture of Drupal (or any other) package then it is up to as to how you can extend it. HTH -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] drupal
Hi, I am a newbie to drupal. I just want to know can i do any projects with this ( i know of creating a website other than this) Drupal is best suited for content-driven websites and web applications. Doing anything other than this might involve deep diving into its internals. IMO, if your webapp is not going to be purely content-driven you might want to try out CodeIgniter or any other similar web application framework. Cheers! -- Chandrashekar Babu http://www.chandrashekar.info/ http://www.slashprog.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Commercial] Dell Mini Ubuntu Writing Contest
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Re: [Ilugc] More on freshers planning a startup
K C R. Pretty good advise, my 2 cents, when realty knocks on the door(cash flow, no marketing competency, not enough capital etc), a entrepreneurs who is built for it will evolve and adapt to the situation, those who don't will fade away. Don't get into it because of the glamorized anecdotes you read like Bill Gate, Steve Jobs are drop outs that's for sure. -Original Message- From: ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in [mailto:ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in] On Behalf Of K.C. Ramakrishna Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:35 PM To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Subject: [Ilugc] More on freshers planning a startup Hi all, One word of caution. I would recommend people sticking to facts rather than anecdotes. The golden image of college dropouts starting successful companies if the exception and not the rule. For every successful college dropout, there will be 200 failures. Do not compare yourselves to Bill Gates, Steve jobs, Dell etc. Bill Gates was from a VERY wealthy family with a LOT of connections. Steve Jobs had a team of experienced people from Xerox and stuff, Dell was running the business for some time as a student before he quit. Also US has way more opportunities in terms of funding and entrepreneur support. I would like to remind Karthik that these are really young and impressionable people and I would advise caution. I have built a sustainable business based on FOSS consulting. Been through a lot of ups and downs. Starting up sounds sexy but there is a lot of risk - it takes talent, a lot of hard work, adaptability, a very strong heart and most importantly dollops of luck. Yes. Luck plays a pretty important part. Also the potential entrepreneurs should understand the there will be a lot of advise on this forum but if your business fails, at the end of the day, you have to feed yourself and pay your own bills. If you try to go back to a job, it will be tougher both for you and potential employers. You will not have any hard skills and for the other skills, prospective employers will be under the impression that you will quit as soon as you have the next great idea. The thrill of entrepreneurship is that bottom-line responsibility rests with you and that exactly is the risk too. Be aware that you are risking your life. Better do it with more preparation. And maturity counts in biz more than anything else. Also working for companies will tell you what it takes to do biz. This is a myth. The history of startups shows us that the best entrepreneurs were neither mature nor experienced when they started out If anything, the history of college-dropout entrepreneurs shows us that understanding a specific customer need and build a kickass product to address it is the best way to build a startup. K. C. Ramakrishna www.rknowsys.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th
When you quote - please say so *or* simply forward the email. Most MUAs are smart and will put a FWD prefix (or something similar) on the subject line. unfortunately the OP keeps doing this even though he has been repeatedly reminded ;-) The real issue is I still can not understand this things. If I know somw event is happening about any Free Open Source Software, I just share the information here. I do not get them as forward mail. I get the information from various sites, mailing lists, irc etc. After some editing like adding links, formatting, I share it to the mailing list. I dont want to give just a single url and all to click to explore what it is, I give as much information as possible in the mail itself. Links are also being provided for further exploration. Those event information and content are to share with others and they dont request for any attribution. As I participate most of the event, I share the information to the list. Please advice me on how I have to change the voice or tone in the announcements. Give some examples on how we have to announce the event Ubuntu Developer Week and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek to the list. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Ubuntu and Upstream
Kenneth, As you told in the other thread like ubuntu is not giving back to upstream, please provide some examples for that. I am not aware of that so far. If ubuntu is denying developers for upstream contribution, we can take some serious actions and reporting about ubuntu. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SCILAB at university
Suraj, I havesome how persuaded my department (ECE) in college to conduct a lecture and/or workshop on SciLab as an alternative to MATLAB some time this march. I'd love it if someone could actually come and conduct this lecture. Today, I had a discussion with Mr.Dhanushkodi of www.techpassiontech.com. He is willing to provide workshop on Scilab. Please discuss with your college and update here with suitable dates. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Call for speakers - March meet
Friends. We have our monthly meet on March 12. Please reply here or offlist if you are interested in giving talk/demo. Here is the list of talks requested by our list members. http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Talk_Requests Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Mailing List Guidelines
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[Ilugc] requesting information about seminors
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[Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
Friends. We are discussing for preparing the LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus. Shall we start working on this? MIT Chrompet is accepted for providing a 40 seat lab for the community to gather and work on preparing the lab syllabus. The Lab is facilitated with linux machines and internet connection. Shall we meet there on coming saturday March 4 at MIT? The Lab Syllabus is here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/open-source-lab-syllabus-in-anna-university/ We can choose any topic, create documentations on introduction, create exercises and verify them. Please update here, if you wish to contribute for the LAB Manual. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
We are discussing for preparing the LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus. Shall we start working on this? Shall we meet there on coming saturday March 4 at MIT? @Shrini: i'm game, lets meet and discuss -- Regards, Magesh web: GeexHQ.com http://geexhq.com/ twitter: @iMagesh http://twitter.com/iMagesh ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
@Shrini: i'm game, lets meet and discuss Thanks Magesh, Please pick any topic from the syllabus and mention here. That will be easier for all of us to plan. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Netgear WG111v2
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 11:42 +0530, Arun Khan wrote: I have been tinkering with an unit that my brother does not use any more. It gets detected and is based on an Atheros chipset but the firmware is missing. Went to the Netgear Forums and did not find anything helpful either. Hmm, interesting. I do believe this is unrelated to my problem, though, which I managed to fix by upgrading the kernel to 2.6.35-27 using an Ethernet cable. I will post if I encounter any more trouble, but performance is definitely up as it has been up for 2-3 hours (during which I've transferred a few gigabytes to check) without any particular issues. While searching for information on my Realtek chipset based WG111v2 I came across some posts about Prism54-based USB wifi devices being misidentified as Atheros-based. It might be worth confirming whether your `lsusb` output matches anything on this page under '0846': http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids. -- Roshan George ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
Please pick any topic from the syllabus and mention here. That will be easier for all of us to plan. Shrini i don't get you, what are we supposed to do on that day? Are we planning for a seminar or discussion? explain! (btw, iam asking these questions in the list to let others know about this as well) -- Regards, Magesh web: GeexHQ.com http://geexhq.com/ twitter: @iMagesh http://twitter.com/iMagesh ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Friends. Shall we meet there on coming saturday March 4 at MIT? A small correction - It's March 5 (saturday). Thanks. -- விக்னேஷ். http://krvignesh.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.in wrote: The Lab is facilitated with linux machines and internet connection. The Linux distribution is Fedora-14 with 6400+ packages installed in each machine (i better suggest creating video screencast for some of the topics in the syllabus) The lab that you are talking about is the FOSS lab you set up the department of Computer Technology. We have planned to have this manual preparation work at Computer Center, which is a central facility of the college, common to students of all departments. This lab has 40 systems with CentOS-5 and only a few extra packages installed. Internet connection will be available, however. -- நன்றிகளுடன், விக்னேஷ். http://krvignesh.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: When you quote - please say so *or* simply forward the email. Most MUAs are smart and will put a FWD prefix (or something similar) on the subject line. unfortunately the OP keeps doing this even though he has been repeatedly reminded ;-) The real issue is I still can not understand this things. When you lift text verbatim from some one or site it is a common courtesy to acknowledge where you got the information from and include relevant text using some kind of notation. Example quote blah blah blah blah ... /quote Is that so difficult? If I know somw event is happening about any Free Open Source Software, I just share the information here. It is nice and welcome as long as you convey it in a proper manner. Till now such postings, from you, look as though you have composed them which is misleading. I do not get them as forward mail. I get the information from various sites, mailing lists, irc etc. Mailing lists announcements can be forwarded by clicking on the forward icon/link in your email client. IRC you can copy/paste and mention the source of your quotation. Ditto with web sites. After some editing like adding links, formatting, I share it to the mailing list. I dont want to give just a single url and all to click to explore what it is, I give as much information as possible in the mail itself. Those interested in your event will click on the URL. It does not matter IMO; the issue is proper quotation. Links are also being provided for further exploration. Those event information and content are to share with others and they dont request for any attribution. As I participate most of the event, I share the information to the list. Please advice me on how I have to change the voice or tone in the announcements. When you copy/paste it is not your voice/tone. It is the original authors voice/tone. With appropriate quote marks you do not have change the voice/tone at all. After all you are quoting. Give some examples on how we have to announce the event Ubuntu Developer Week and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek to the list. In this case it would have been sufficient to quote the first para of the announcement and then give the URL for further reference. HTH -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
what do you mean by open source languages? AFAIK the compilers or the IDE's can be open source for that matter but what are open source languages? btw, I am a regular reader :) Make a view into it http://www.linuxforu.com Thanks man for letting me to know it...i think that Phython,Perl,Php and Mysql are open source languages..then it called?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Need help regarding Umbrello
Hi friends, I tried to install Umbrello, A UML modeller in Ubuntu 10.04 using the following command: *apt-get install umbrello-kde4 *but it says:* E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? Is this uml modeller is only for kde desktop or it can also be used for Gnome? *Please help me friends.* * -- *PuduvaiLUG (puduvai Linux Users Group): http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/ Visit the Blog to know my experience with LINUX: http://prasopensource.wordpress.com/* ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc On 3/2/11, thoufi .racer46 thoufi.race...@gmail.com wrote: what do you mean by open source languages? AFAIK the compilers or the IDE's can be open source for that matter but what are open source languages? btw, I am a regular reader :) Make a view into it http://www.linuxforu.com Thanks man for letting me to know it...i think that Phython,Perl,Php and Mysql are open source languages..then it called?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Need help regarding Umbrello
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.comwrote: Hi friends, I tried to install Umbrello, A UML modeller in Ubuntu 10.04 using the following command: *apt-get install umbrello-kde4 *but it says:* E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and just apt-get install umbrello worked fine for me. Try apt-get update or --fix-missing as it suggests. Is this uml modeller is only for kde desktop or it can also be used for Gnome? Though it is a KDE based application, it can be used in Gnome very well (not only this, but many KDE based applications). -- நன்றிகளுடன், விக்னேஷ். http://krvignesh.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
Thanks man for letting me to know it...i think that Phython,Perl,Php and Mysql are open source languages..then it called?? how would C/C++ be categorized then? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Anuvrat Parashar 3rd Year Undergraduate, CSE ASET, Noida www.bhanuvrat.blogspot.com/p/about.html ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] FW: rsync download problem
rsync -avz rsync://rsync.mirrorservice.org/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Everything/i386/os/ /opt/f14/ i am all ways working in wifi only in my laptop flow error message rsync: failed to connect to rsync.mirrorservice.org: Connection timed out (110) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(122) [Receiver=3.0.7] please help ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc Friend ,then how these languages were developed by..though PYTHON provide a high level user experience ...so by programs does they hav developed?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu and Upstream
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: Kenneth, As you told in the other thread like ubuntu is not giving back to upstream, please provide some examples for that. I am not aware of that so far. If ubuntu is denying developers for upstream contribution, we can take some serious actions and reporting about ubuntu. Hi Shrinivasan, I work very closely with Ubuntu team, so I have nothing to comment on this, but read this [1] in slashdot. Thanks Nagappan [1] - http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3925641/Ubuntu-Where-Did-the-Love-Go.htm -- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org http://nagappanal.blogspot.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th
Dear Shrinivasan, Preemptive apology - sorry to jump on the bandwagon, but my 2 paise follow :) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: The real issue is I still can not understand this things. If I know somw event is happening about any Free Open Source Software, I just share the information here. I do not get them as forward mail. I get the information from various sites, mailing lists, irc etc. After some editing like adding links, formatting, I share it to the mailing list. It's as simple as this - if it's not content you came up with, use quotes (or anything that indicates that you've copied it from elsewhere, or are quoting someone). If possible, attribute. If you're unable to use quotes (for whatever reason), paraphrase. It's considered bad manners and (worse still) plagiarism to not indicate the portions you've borrowed from someone else. Moreover, just adding one line, link, comment, or any minor changes, do not justify using content as your own. And, I can't say it enough - attribute, attribute, attribute. For instance: You may be mashing up an announcement and have used a few lines from some event announcement on a developer list, a few lines from someone's blog post, and a couple of lines from a website. You may put your announcement together, but the content is still not yours - it's from 3 different places. Ideally, you should put them individually in quotes with corresponding attributions. eg. - ABC has a sprint happening at venue on date. xyz_name on the blah_name mailing list says the following about this. whatever you want to quote from xyz's email As MN, the author of insert package, says in her blog, quote insert snippet from blog /quote. For more information on this wonderful package refer website. - I dont want to give just a single url and all to click to explore what it is, I give as much information as possible in the mail itself. Links are also being provided for further exploration. Those event information and content are to share with others and they dont request for any attribution. Understood. I do remember sending you a bio/write up offlist for some talk and saw it sent verbatim to the list without quotes or attribution. While there was no attribution required, it was not content that you generated but it certainly looked like you did (likely unintentionally). Quotations to indicate that you didn't write the lines would be a graceful way of helping others realize who came up with what or at least in distinguishing between something authored by you and someone else. While I was not miffed, I do think it's not good practice to not quote, especially in open source circles and academia. Basically, while attribution is upto you, copying is not, i.e., 'tis not a sin to not attribute, but it's a serious one to not quote content that you did not come up with. Thumbrule - if you have pasted a line from somewhere, put it in quotes, and attribute the author (if content snipped is significant). If it's someone else's idea or if rephrasing it, mention that you're paraphrasing someone else. This applies almost everywhere - college projects, assignments, homework, writing research papers, articles, publishing *anything* anywhere ... You don't want to be stuck with a plagiarism tag! A better (and more objective/impersonal) explanation can be found under Notes on plagiarism at - http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/home/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=17Itemid=25 HTH :) Cheers, KD -- Webpage - http://kadambarid.in Weblog - http://kadambarid.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
I don't really think there is any such classification in the real world or at least not anything officially. What I am trying to put forth is just a line of differentiation that would help us to see a distinction between propertiery based languages and those languages that are open source based. As for the question of classifying c/c++, why go for such a high level language? you can take up assembly language or BASIC FORTRAN for that matter. The reason for them to not to be placed on either side is that they were the ones on the first placed which ushered the development of both open source and closed sourced systems. So there is nothing like a strict protocol that defines the distinction of languages. But rather the distinction is meant to help you chose between PHP and ASP or between visual studio based languages and Qt based ones. I hope I have justified the term open source languages. On 3/2/11, Thoufi Tiger thoufi...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc Friend ,then how these languages were developed by..though PYTHON provide a high level user experience ...so by programs does they hav developed?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:03 AM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.comwrote: I don't really think there is any such classification in the real world or at least not anything officially. What I am trying to put forth is just a line of differentiation that would help us to see a distinction between propertiery based languages and those languages that are open source based. As for the question of classifying c/c++, why go for such a high level language? you can take up assembly language or BASIC FORTRAN for that matter. The reason for them to not to be placed on either side is that they were the ones on the first placed which ushered the development of both open source and closed sourced systems. So there is nothing like a strict protocol that defines the distinction of languages. But rather the distinction is meant to help you chose between PHP and ASP or between visual studio based languages and Qt based ones. I hope I have justified the term open source languages. On 3/2/11, Thoufi Tiger thoufi...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc Friend ,then how these languages were developed by..though PYTHON provide a high level user experience ...so by programs does they hav developed?? yeah ... got it :) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Anuvrat Parashar 3rd Year Undergraduate, CSE ASET, Noida www.bhanuvrat.blogspot.com/p/about.html ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:03 AM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote: snip like a strict protocol that defines the distinction of languages. But rather the distinction is meant to help you chose between PHP and ASP or between visual studio based languages and Qt based ones. With Nokia moving go MS platform, what is the fate of Qt? -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Developer Week 2011: February 28th - March 4th
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 15:19 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: Give some examples on how we have to announce the event Ubuntu Developer Week and the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek to the list. like this: quoting from this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek [quote] Welcome to the Ubuntu Developer Week! We will have one week of action-packed sessions from February 28th 2011 to March 4th 2011! In just five years, Ubuntu has become the most popular Linux distribution in the world with millions of users. Ever wondered how Ubuntu development works? How to get involved yourself? Find out from February 28th 2011 to March 4th 2011! Ubuntu Developer Week is a series of online workshops where you can: * learn about different packaging techniques * find out more about different development teams * check out the efforts of the world-wide Development Community * participate in open QA sessions with Ubuntu developers * much more... * [end of quote] -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu and Upstream
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 15:29 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote: As you told in the other thread like ubuntu is not giving back to upstream, please provide some examples for that. I am not aware of that so far. If ubuntu is denying developers for upstream contribution, we can take some serious actions and reporting about ubuntu. there is a long thread on this in this list with lots of examples given by Steve. Search for 'african spaceman' in the list archives. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting
hai i have tried to convert the file type with highlight i want the color highlited in doc format ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 12:24 +0530, krishna kumar wrote: i want the color highlited in doc format what is doc format? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting
to take the printouts in color with syntax highlighting to edit in windows MS word / .doc On 3/3/11, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 12:24 +0530, krishna kumar wrote: i want the color highlited in doc format what is doc format? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- BY[E] KK ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for Volunteers - Preparing LAB Manual for Anna University Syllabus
Shrinivasan T tshrinivasan@... writes: We can choose any topic, create documentations on introduction, create exercises and verify them. Please update here, if you wish to contribute for the LAB Manual. I would like contribute to this. I can provide help in the areas of Python and GUI Programming. I have been doing GNU/Linux training for quite sometime and I think I can provide some useful inputs when it comes to doing a GNU/Linux lab. The syllabus also seems to have some issues, but I think it can been fixed up with a little bit or re-ordering and trimming. A few suggestions for the lab manual: * There seems to be too many languages: Python, Perl, PHP, Gambas ... I would suggest that one language be used through-out the lab exercises, and the others be just touched upon. * One of the problems with labs involving installation of kernel and software packages, is that the students have to be given root access. And there will be lot of maintenance overhead for restoring the system back to a sane state. This can be avoided by installing the packages within a VM. Within the VMs the students get complete root access, and even if things screw up, the VM's harddisk image can be restored from backup. * The better order would probably be: (I have choosen Python as the primary language, here. But other combinations are also imaginable.) - Running Python - GUI Programming (using Python) - Version control systems ... - Virtualisation - Setting up the complete network ... (using a virtual network formed by multiple VMs) - Installing various software pacakges (within VM) - Compiling from source (within VM) - Introduction to package management (within VM) - Writing user space drivers (using Python) - Kernel configuration, compilation and installation (within VM) - Running PHP - Running Perl Regards, Vijay ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] syntax highlighting
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 12:46 +0530, krishna kumar wrote: to take the printouts in color with syntax highlighting to edit in windows MS word / .doc what does the 'L' stand for in the name of this group? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
