[Ilugc] Kernel - power management sub system

2012-01-06 Thread Aravind Soundararajan
Dear Ones

Can anyone help in fixing bugs in the power management sub system of Linux
Kernel??

Aravind
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[Ilugc] 12 resolutions for programmers

2012-01-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Source: http://matt.might.net/articles/programmers-resolutions/

quote

It's important for programmers to challenge themselves.

Creative and technical stagnation is the only alternative.

In the spirit of the new year, I've compiled twelve month-sized resolutions.

Each month is an annually renewable technical or personal challenge:

Go analog.
Stay healthy.
Embrace the uncomfortable.
Learn a new programming language.
Automate.
Learn more mathematics.
Focus on security.
Back up your data.
Learn more theory.
Engage the arts and humanities.
Learn new software.
Complete a personal project.

Read on for my suggestions.

/quote

Read further here:
 http://matt.might.net/articles/programmers-resolutions/


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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - Jan 2012 Meet

2012-01-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Let us move our meeting to Jan 21, 2012.
The third saturday.

Thanks for your suggestions.


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Re: [Ilugc] 12 resolutions for programmers

2012-01-06 Thread g.t rao
Greetings all,
I am goning to conduct a Free/freedom Open
Source software  workshop  in jaipur ,rajasthan . Here in jaipur some
engineering colleges or educational institutes asking foss
certificate.Regarding this can any foss organization   provide a
certificate for whotake participate in the workshop .


On 1/6/12, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Source: http://matt.might.net/articles/programmers-resolutions/

 quote

 It's important for programmers to challenge themselves.

 Creative and technical stagnation is the only alternative.

 In the spirit of the new year, I've compiled twelve month-sized resolutions.

 Each month is an annually renewable technical or personal challenge:

 Go analog.
 Stay healthy.
 Embrace the uncomfortable.
 Learn a new programming language.
 Automate.
 Learn more mathematics.
 Focus on security.
 Back up your data.
 Learn more theory.
 Engage the arts and humanities.
 Learn new software.
 Complete a personal project.

 Read on for my suggestions.

 /quote

 Read further here:
  http://matt.might.net/articles/programmers-resolutions/


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Re: [Ilugc] 12 resolutions for programmers

2012-01-06 Thread 0

 Greetings all,
 I am goning to conduct a Free/freedom Open
 Source software  workshop  in jaipur ,rajasthan . Here in jaipur some
 engineering colleges or educational institutes asking foss
 certificate.Regarding this can any foss organization   provide a
 certificate for whotake participate in the workshop .


It is good to hear that you are going to conduct a FOSS workshop but you 
should not hijack an existing thread in the mailing list i.e, replying 
to a email in an intent to create a new topic.

Please resend your email with appropriate subject and create a new 
thread, ie., don't reply to an email and change subject but instead 
compose a new email.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OffTopic] Article comparing Hinduism with Open Source

2012-01-06 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, kenneth gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.comwrote:

 On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 19:26 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote:
  Indians cheating ? Nay sir, they are just damn too smart for rest of
  the world.
  Whoever said being competitive is directly proportional to working
  hard.

 cheating is smart?


Happened 3 days back:
Guy from reputed engineering college walks into my office. He actually
comes here with my friend's reference. He wants to do an internship. Asked
him about his project thinking he wants to do it here. He says it's being
done by HCL career development center. Rs6,500/- per person, 3 in a team.
They will explain the project and the project report to them too at the
same cost. Asked him why he wants to work here if he was not interested
even in doing his own project. He says that he is already 'campus selected'
by Infosys and Wipro. Then again I ask him why then he wants to do an
internship. He says his friends scared him saying that he will be kicked
out of Infosys and Wipro after training if he does not know about work
ethics and other stuff.

Awesomeness - The guy, HCL CDS, Infosys and Wipro.
India, the IT power house We will be the greatest.

Regards,
Arun





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Re: [Ilugc] [OffTopic] Article comparing Hinduism with Open Source

2012-01-06 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Happened 3 days back:
 Guy from reputed engineering college walks into my office. He actually
 comes here with my friend's reference. He wants to do an internship. Asked
 him about his project thinking he wants to do it here. He says it's being
 done by HCL career development center. Rs6,500/- per person, 3 in a team.
 They will explain the project and the project report to them too at the
 same cost. Asked him why he wants to work here if he was not interested
 even in doing his own project. He says that he is already 'campus selected'
 by Infosys and Wipro. Then again I ask him why then he wants to do an
 internship. He says his friends scared him saying that he will be kicked
 out of Infosys and Wipro after training if he does not know about work
 ethics and other stuff.

 Awesomeness - The guy, HCL CDS, Infosys and Wipro.
 India, the IT power house We will be the greatest.


I sympathize.

This narrow, skewed work-ethics is, IMO, due to something uniquely indian
by nature - one is perceived to be 'better off' by society if they're found
to be in a good position and it is also expected that people in good
positions 'know' what they're doing. Both combined, results in people not
accepting what they don't know and in racing to 'climb the ladder' for this
mysterious religion called 'growth', this strategy by itself is quite
harmful to one's career... above it, when we play out a game of such
similar strategies, there is a run away phenomenon that ends up lowering
the entire company's bar. The bad hire the worse and it quickly turns into
a hell hole.

... but nothing is black and white. I've found good people from
Infosys/TCS-types as well or even people with completely irrelevant
backgrounds shining. I guess the differentiating variable is Passion.

When we got 700,000 engineers graduating every year from India and
countless more other 'graduates', most of them confused because their view
of the world states that they must first get a well paying, dignified
job. With such a scenario, such sweat shops are but inevitable? It is
perhaps still cost effective to keep 4 guys to do each of coding, testiing,
documenting and releasing 3 lines of code per day. Money beats Logic.

A cousin of mine was happy because his BPO company offered him the title of
Executive Officer. Hmmm?

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[Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Dear all,

The entire ubuntu repository for 11.10 (i386 only) is available as 9
DVDs ISOs now. (total size: 37GB)

The complete ubuntu repository for the following versions are also available.

8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 (all i386 only)

All the main, universe, multiverse and restricted repositories are available.

Interested Colleges / Students can obtain the above ISOs for free of
cost in the below address.

I am also in the process of setting up Open Source Resource Centre for
all colleges in TN.  For details, contact me offlist.

Our address:

LinuXpert Systems
New No.1, Vembuliamman Koil Street,
Pazhavanthangal,
Chennai - 600 114.

With regards

S. Baskar
CEO/LinuXpert Systems
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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
 The entire ubuntu repository for 11.10 (i386 only) is available as 9 DVDs 
 ISOs now. (total size: 37GB)
This is fantastic. Can you share how you got that done ? If you think
sharing that information might hamper your business, excuse me for
asking the question.

I was excited because there are so many things we can do with such
a large collection of repositories.
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/5 Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com:

 I don't see point of pushing
 M$ office on Linux.

I'll give you four 'points':

1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)
2. Excel Macros
3. Powerpoint
4. Outlook + MS Exchange

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 Pratap Chakravarthy prata...@gmail.com:

 I was excited because there are so many things we can do with such
 a large collection of repositories.

I believe zyxware.com also provides these :)

http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi,

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)

It is more a case of having got used to MS Office. I find LibreOffice
to be quite easy to use and visually appealing as well.

 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint

 You have far better options than that. Read the thread on
Impress.js for an example. LaTeX beamer is another. And Lyx is a
WYSIWYG that supports beamer

 4. Outlook + MS Exchange


   MS Exchange is not part of the office suite. And so even if
Office is released for linux(We know that the story was fake), they
need not release MS Exchange. And taking just Outlook into
consideration, I find both Evolution and Thunderbird to be better.
Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] Mercurial server setting up

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
 afaik there is no such thing as a mercurial server. Every mercurial
 repository is independent and can be accessed as a file on a local
 machine, or over ssh/http/ etc on a remote machine.

I havn't setup up mercurial repositories to be accessed via http. So this
is my wild guess.

It is true that mercurial is a distributed VCS and that
all the version control information is stored inside the directory called
.hg/ under repository root, and the working tree is simply a checkout
of .hg/

Now to access mercurial repository it is enough to have the
file path or file url. And because of this ssh becomes quite convenient
to access remote file-paths, since ssh server naturally understands
unix file tree.

But HTTP server is a different beast. It requires configuration to map
HTTP urls to file path. And I guess OP is requesting information on
that.

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[Ilugc] Stall for FOSS at BookFair at chennai

2012-01-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
35th Chennai Book Fair started last tuesday.

Period : Jan 5 - Jan 17.

Is it possible to have a stall for FOSS there?
If not a stall, is it possible to give free pamphlets and CDs ?


Do anyone have the contact with the event organizer http://www.bapasi.com/ ?
I am calling them from morning. Can not reach anyone.


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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
I don't know whether I am alone here. I left M$ office or similar
tools five years back and never found a need for one.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar
benignb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)

 It is more a case of having got used to MS Office. I find LibreOffice
 to be quite easy to use and visually appealing as well.

 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint

         You have far better options than that. Read the thread on
 Impress.js for an example. LaTeX beamer is another. And Lyx is a
 WYSIWYG that supports beamer

 4. Outlook + MS Exchange


           MS Exchange is not part of the office suite. And so even if
 Office is released for linux(We know that the story was fake), they
 need not release MS Exchange. And taking just Outlook into
 consideration, I find both Evolution and Thunderbird to be better.
 Thanks


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[Ilugc] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Workshop: Preparing extensions for MediaWiki 1.19 - 1/13/2012 on #wikimedia-dev

2012-01-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
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From: Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:23 AM
Subject: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Workshop: Preparing extensions for
MediaWiki 1.19 - 1/13/2012 on #wikimedia-dev
To: mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org


Greetings!

Utilizing the model set by Wikimedia staff IRC office hours,
MediaWiki.org's WikiProject Extensions is presenting our first
MediaWiki Workshops for developers (volunteer and staff).  Preparing
extensions for MediaWiki 1.19 will be held on 13 January, 2012 at
19:00 UTC in IRC (#wikimedia-dev).

This IRC workshop will be an opportunity to find out about changes in
MediaWiki 1.19 that may require revisions to extensions or skins. Also
an opportunity to ask MediaWiki developers questions regarding
extension development.

Everyone is invited to attend.  Developers interested in serving as
extensions or MediaWiki 1.19 experts are encouraged to signup as
participants at:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions/MediaWiki_Workshops#MediaWiki_1.19_Experts

If there's continued interest / demand, MediaWiki Workshops will
typically last one hour, and happen no more than twice a month to
present trainings, hold discussions and collaborate on community or
WikiProject Extensions projects. Facilitators host the session to
introduce any presenters, determine the order of questions, and
generally helps to keep things going. Time of day will vary in order
to offer people in different parts of the world the opportunity to
participate. Future topics will likely include MediaWiki.org
documentation, ResourceLouder orientation and workshops similar to our
inaugural chat to prepare for each MediaWiki release.

More information:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions/MediaWiki_Workshops

MediaWiki.org's WikiProject SysAdmins will also likely host similar
MediaWiki Workshops to help third-party wiki system administrators.
Stay tuned for more information, and chime in at:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_SysAdmins/Ideas

Look forward to seeing folks next Friday!  Please feel free to forward
this along to any interested folks.

-greg aka varnent

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
I know. There is a url for everything in this world. Anyway thanks for
the pointer.

Cheers,

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/1/6 Pratap Chakravarthy prata...@gmail.com:

 I was excited because there are so many things we can do with such
 a large collection of repositories.

 I believe zyxware.com also provides these :)

 http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 Balachandran Sivakumar benignb...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)

 It is more a case of having got used to MS Office. I find LibreOffice
 to be quite easy to use and visually appealing as well.

I find it appealing too.. But those who have been using ribbons and
stuff on MS will not find it as appealing or easy to use.. I've tried
MS word and I must say most tools are handy. They are easier to access
than they are in LibreOffice. But I love LibreOffice for several other
reasons impertinent to a MS user.

 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint

         You have far better options than that. Read the thread on
 Impress.js for an example. LaTeX beamer is another. And Lyx is a
 WYSIWYG that supports beamer

Bad learning curve. No one wants to unlearn what they've already
learnt and learn something new. I'm sure many have neither the time
nor the inclination to do that. Beamer is brilliant I agree. But do
you really expect people to learn it and use it? People want to use
the mouse to click and move stuff and get their work done. Beamer is
for pros, mathematicians and enthusiasts. Atleast IMO.

 4. Outlook + MS Exchange


           MS Exchange is not part of the office suite. And so even if
 Office is released for linux(We know that the story was fake), they
 need not release MS Exchange. And taking just Outlook into
 consideration, I find both Evolution and Thunderbird to be better.

Yes. I meant that most enterprises use Exchange server and Outlook
does a good job of integrating with it. I know Thunderbird has a
plugin to do that and Evolution can handle it by default. But still,
I'm pointing out why MS Office in Linux might be exciting to some
people and enterprises.

That said, I really do hope LibreOffice (and LaTeX and Thunderbird) is
improved and people start using it big time. I do, really ! :)

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[Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Kartik Raj
Hi,

I'm building a language model for Tamil. Are there any text
corpus available for Tamil that i could download or get from any source?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Akilan R
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote:


 So, who knows, Now that MS Office is no longer shackled, maybe it'll earn
 them more money now.


I guess, in the course of many mails people didn't realise/forgot that the
original article linked to by OP is an April fools day joke. :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] [OffTopic] Article comparing Hinduism with Open Source

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
 cheating is smart?

I guess thats right. Except for those occasions where we cheat ourself.
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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
Pardon my ignorance. What do you mean by language model ? And by
Tamil-corpus do you mean a large collection of tamil text ?

Cheers,

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kartik Raj xia...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm building a language model for Tamil. Are there any text
 corpus available for Tamil that i could download or get from any source?

 Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT]small form factor device

2012-01-06 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am looking for a small form factor device which I plan to install in
 clients premises and maintain through SSH over the internet. It should have
 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD and a decent CPU.


You need to define Decent CPU. For what? Will people compile code and/or
run CPU heavy applications?  Are they just workers using web applications
and simple desktop applications (such as libreoffice) most of the time?




 Has anyone here bought / assembled a mini ITX based system? Are the
 components available in Chennai?


I just went through the exercise of setting up a lab infrastructure built
up of 15 thin clients and a decent server setup. I assembled my rig afer
evaluating ready-made alternatives in the market. The reason I chose my rig
was primarily limited by budget and the need to be low on power consumption
just so I save myself from rising energy prices.

I documented my experience at ILUGC here:

1. Initial email asking for suggestions from the list:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/73079
2. What I chose (and why) and associated experience:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/73548

I did not end up with a mini-ITX sized cabinet but it was atleast thin
and allows me to keep it horizontal and the display on top of it. If you're
willing to invest a bit more, check out http://www.disklessworkstations.com/

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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread JAGANADH G
Pardon my ignorance. What do you mean by language model ?



A language model is a statistical model which populate from a data set.
Here I think OP is taling about creating language model for Speech
Processing. N-Gram is a kind of language model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-gram

And by
 Tamil-corpus do you mean a large collection of tamil text ?


Corpus in the context of Natural Language Processing is:
A large collection of text .

There are different types of corpus such as Text Corpus, Speech Corpus,
Image corpus etc..

Here OP requires a text corpus. I think he can use the Tamil Wikipedia dump
as corpus for his research purpose. Or he can populate a corpus from
newspaper RSS feeds and Tamil blog feeds too.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Kartik Raj
Ya corpus is a large collection of Tamil text and language model is used to
train a system for the speech recognition.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Pratap Chakravarthy prata...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pardon my ignorance. What do you mean by language model ? And by
 Tamil-corpus do you mean a large collection of tamil text ?

 Cheers,

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kartik Raj xia...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm building a language model for Tamil. Are there any text
  corpus available for Tamil that i could download or get from any source?
 
  Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread JAGANADH G
I'll give you four 'points':


 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)
 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint
 4. Outlook + MS Exchange



All these facilities are available in OpenOffice.org/ LibreOffice.
If you want some thing more than that you can try Lotus Symphey from IBM
too .

The visual appeal VBA Macros, in Document, Spreadsheet etc are available in
OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice and Lotus Symphoney .
There are wonderful FOSS alternatives for Outlook like Thunderbird .

So there is no point in your four points
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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Kartik Raj
How to get those from wikimedia dump? Also i need speech corpus since just
started recording audio for my research.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance. What do you mean by language model ?



 A language model is a statistical model which populate from a data set.
 Here I think OP is taling about creating language model for Speech
 Processing. N-Gram is a kind of language model
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-gram

 And by
  Tamil-corpus do you mean a large collection of tamil text ?
 

 Corpus in the context of Natural Language Processing is:
 A large collection of text .

 There are different types of corpus such as Text Corpus, Speech Corpus,
 Image corpus etc..

 Here OP requires a text corpus. I think he can use the Tamil Wikipedia dump
 as corpus for his research purpose. Or he can populate a corpus from
 newspaper RSS feeds and Tamil blog feeds too.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread JAGANADH G
@karthik
You can use the Tamil Wikipedia dump as a corpus. Try it

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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Kartik Raj
ya sure i will try right away. THanks

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 @karthik
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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread JAGANADH G
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Kartik Raj xia...@gmail.com wrote:

 How to get those from wikimedia dump?


Find it from here http://static.wikipedia.org/ . Also u can populate corpus
using RSS feeds of new papers. Have to bit programming


 Also i need speech corpus since just
 started recording audio for my research.


I think as of now nobody is providing Speech corpus in Open Domain. There
was something available in this site http://www.nrcfosshelpline.in/. But is
it is not working now.
The better solution is Go to AIR website they may be publishing the daily
AIR Tamil news audio files. I am not sure . Just check . But there will be
lot of noise in those recording.


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[Ilugc] Wukan in Context

2012-01-06 Thread A. Mani
http://www.pragoti.in/node/4587
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Wukan in Context

 The Arab Spring...followed by the Bersih 2.0 movement in
Malaysia...followed by the Indignado movement in Spain.. followed by
the Occupy Protests in the United States... followed by the protests
against electoral malpractice and more in Russia ...and now protests
in the Wukan village in China? It is easy to make a comparative
assessment of the incidents in Wukan village in Guandong province in
China with the other protests against power in various parts of the
world and say that this is just a re-enactment against authority.
Authority could be differentiated - be it dictatorship in the Arab
world, oligarchy in Malaysia, two-party duopoly in Spain, financial
capital and plutocracy in the United States, atypical Kremlinology of
the Putin variety in Russia, but there are commonalities - the pursuit
of policies that are skewed in the interests of capitalists,
speculators, the rich and against common people. So is Wukan on
similar lines?

In the case of the Wukan protests - directed at local communist party
and government officials over a land deal - it seems that the higher
leadership of the Communist Party effected an immediate reprisal over
corrupt officials in accordance with the villagers’ wishes. The
controversial land deal has also been cancelled. It seems to be a case
of the ruling party pre-empting the burgeoning of the protests against
its authority in general. But questions arise if this can be
replicated elsewhere and whether the apparatuses of the Communist
Party ruled state are democratic and robust enough to address peoples'
concerns about displacement and loss of livelihoods.

This article in the Diplomat  has an interesting drift - the party’s
attempts to bring about a reasonable denouement in favour of the
aggrieved people in Wukan cannot be generalised, as the outcomes in
Wukan were more due to inner party dynamics. Wang Yang, the secretary
of the Guandong provincial committee of the CPC, played a vital role
in the peaceful outcome in Wukan, by sympathizing with the protesting
villagers. This solidified his claims to be incorporated in the CPC’s
politburo standing committee in the forthcoming Congress. Other high
profile CPC leaders like Chongqing party chief Bo Xilai have also
adopted a similar route towards acquiring popularity. He is credited
for launching a serious crackdown on organised crime in Chongqing in
2009, arresting over 2000 gangsters. Wang Yang was Bo Xilai’s
predecessor in Chongqing.

But protests in China are rising. There is a lot of discontent with
the model of growth in China, which while bringing economic prosperity
during the reform period, has also involved rising inequality among
social classes and between urban and rural areas. Thousands of popular
protests take place in China every year, mostly against land grab by
corrupted party officials. Real estate is a major component of China’s
growth story, and there is widespread apprehension about a real estate
bubble.

To maintain its legitimacy, the CPC often punishes its own party
officials in order to distance itself from corruption. For instance,
Chen Liangyu was dismissed as party secretary of the Shanghai
municipal committee in 2006 and jailed for his involvement in
siphoning off money from the social security fund. Xi Jinping, who
took over as the Shanghai party chief following the scandal, went on
to become a Politburo Standing Committee member and is expected to
succeed Hu Jintao as Party chief and head of state later this year.
Earlier, in 1995, Beijing mayor Chen Xitong was also dismissed and
jailed for corruption. But skeptics maintain that these punishments
merely amount to scratching the surface.

While the Communist Party seems to be cognisant about the problems of
corruption and rising discontent against land grab
(http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7693306.html ), it still
remains to be seen if there would be a definite shift in the policies
of the CPC and the Chinese government - from an export driven, state
capitalist model of growth to a truer socialist vision as its
Constitution claims. And whether indeed there is a truer
democratisation within the Communist party as it is besieged by
complaints of sleaze and graft at various levels of leadership.


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Re: [Ilugc] Kernel - power management sub system

2012-01-06 Thread prasannatsmkumar
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Aravind Soundararajan 
soundararajanarav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Ones

 Can anyone help in fixing bugs in the power management sub system of Linux
 Kernel??

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could help people get started many will come forward and do help in
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Re: [Ilugc] Kernel - power management sub system

2012-01-06 Thread velmurugan Moorthy
I'm an computer enginneering student and interested in contributing for
linux kernel but i don't know what to do for this.could any one tell me how
to do that?
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Re: [Ilugc] Wukan in Context

2012-01-06 Thread Guruprasad
Hi,

On 01/06/2012 08:46 PM, A. Mani wrote:
 http://www.pragoti.in/node/4587
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 Wukan in Context

How is this relevant to ILUGC? I believe it is out of place even with an
OT tag.

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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - Jan 2012 Meet

2012-01-06 Thread velmurugan Moorthy
Shall anyone who is not a member of ILUG-C but interested in FOSS can
participate?bcoz i'm interested to participate in it.Shall I?
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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - Jan 2012 Meet

2012-01-06 Thread Vignesh Nandha Kumar
Velmurugan,

Anyone who is interested in FOSS can participate. There is no official
membership in LUGs, at least in ILUGC. You are a member of ILUGC :)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:01 PM, velmurugan Moorthy 
velmurugan1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shall anyone who is not a member of ILUG-C but interested in FOSS can
 participate?bcoz i'm interested to participate in it.Shall I?



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[Ilugc] Opensource for Mechanical!!!

2012-01-06 Thread sag kavin
Long live CAElinux, for its service to mechanical engineering!!
http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/


With regards...
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Re: [Ilugc] Wukan in Context

2012-01-06 Thread G.R. Karthik
On 1/6/12, Guruprasad lgp171...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On 01/06/2012 08:46 PM, A. Mani wrote:
 http://www.pragoti.in/node/4587
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 Wukan in Context

 How is this relevant to ILUGC? I believe it is out of place even with an
 OT tag.

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Re: [Ilugc] Wukan in Context

2012-01-06 Thread 0

 http://www.pragoti.in/node/4587
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 Wukan in Context

   The Arab Spring...followed by the Bersih 2.0 movement in
 Malaysia...followed by the Indignado movement in Spain.. followed by
 the Occupy Protests in the United States... followed by the protests
 against electoral malpractice and more in Russia ...and now protests

got lost somewhere here... seems more like a spam to me, no spamming please.

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Re: [Ilugc] Wukan in Context

2012-01-06 Thread A. Mani
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Guruprasad lgp171...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wukan in Context

 How is this relevant to ILUGC? I believe it is out of place even with an
 OT tag.

OOPs sorry, I was posting it to some other list starts with i..

Best

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread A. Mani
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll give you four 'points':


 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)
 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint
 4. Outlook + MS Exchange

 So there is no point in your four points


All the posters missed a few words about M$ excel

http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/spreadsheet_addiction.html


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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Pratap Chakravarthy
 All the posters missed a few words about M$ excel

 http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/spreadsheet_addiction.html


I have heard pivot tables where fine inventions in computing
technology. And got its first application in spreadsheets.
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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
 I know. There is a url for everything in this world.

http://rangkiang.unand.ac.id/iso/UI/kambing/ubuntu-repository/11.10/.nganu/

S. Baskar
CEO/LinuXpert Systems
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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 18:21 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote:
 I know. There is a url for everything in this world. Anyway thanks for
 the pointer. 

there is also an url about the evils of topposting ;-)
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com:

 So there is no point in your four points


Prove it, sir !! You and me being Linux/FOSS enthusiasts does not mean
everyone would find LibreOffice appealing/easy to use. Please see my
reply to Mr. Balachandran Sivakumar.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread JAGANADH G
Prove it, sir !! You and me being Linux/FOSS enthusiasts does not mean

 everyone would find LibreOffice appealing/easy to use. Please see my
 reply to Mr. Balachandran Sivakumar.



I am using GNU/Linux  (fedora) for more than 7 years . Now I am working as
a Senior Staff to a Multinational Company. Handles lots of document than
code . Still I am using OpenOffice.org / LibreOffice and Lotus Symphony for
read write and send documents clients across the glob. Still I don't have
any issues with it. With this experience I dare put forward my argument .


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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com:
 @karthik
 You can use the Tamil Wikipedia dump as a corpus. Try it

IMHO building a language model out of Tamil Wikipedia is a bad idea..
It has lots of colloquial terms and modern/mixed words.. And sentences
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