Re: [Ilugc] Older PC's
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Jacob G Podipara podi...@gmail.com wrote: The biological equivalent our brain has not had a model upgrade for billions of years. It processes inputs of greater complexity, greater detail than at child stage without upgrades. The process is called `learning`. Also the brain grows and constantly upgrades itself with millions of new neural networks over it's life. In fact your brain is upgrading itself right now when it is consuming the information you are reading now. I know I am nitpicking and you used it in a figure of speech, but just to set the record straight - we are not a billion years old. The earliest humanoids are only 2.5 million years old. Modern humans (homo sapiens) are only 0.1 million years old! Rather than hardware we probabaly need less intensive software or require applications consuming less. This is an interesting point. It is a chicken-or-egg kind of a problem. But there are some limitations. We can trivialize the issue by saying that we wrote incredibly good code (remember the gpcar, digger, prince of persia?) which used to run on old 386 machines with monochrome displays. They had music playing out of the PC's speaker which could be controlled only in the notes. And this in a non multitasking dumb OS. But I I have also seen AutoCAD rendering the famous Columbia space shuttle (came as a example file) in an 80286 machine with no math co processor. It used to take 5 minutes to show the wire frame. The same file ships even now I think. This file took 3 seconds to render in a Pentium machine. No matter how good the software programmer is, they can't write code to render the space shuttle 3d image in a 80286 machine in 3 seconds. There are some limitations to which software can be written better. It is finally limited by clock cycle speed, RAM etc. But there is no end to human ingenuity. There is a famous Tamil proverb Vallavanukku Pullum Ayudham meaning Even a blade of Grass can become a weapon in the hands of a truly capable person. The Voyager space probes which are on the edge of the solar system, nearing interstellar space run with processor much less capable than the processor in the cheapest cell phone you can buy. They work with 8000 bytes of RAM. With this, the human `spirit` in them was capable of bringing voyager 2 on a grand tour of the planets keeping it's date with each planet and is currently `on course` at nearly 17 billion Km from home. Regards, Arun http://wondroussky.blogspot.in/ கற்றது கைமண் அளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு - ஔவையார் Known is a drop, Unknown is an ocean ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT] Evolution (was: Re: Older PC's)
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar benignb...@gmail.com wrote: Not really. Our brain has been having upgrades, may be every second, through the process of evolution :) I understand I'm taking the topic even more farther into the woods. Hence the edit to the subject to mark this OT :) What you say here is partially True and partially Untrue. True : We are being 'selected' continuously. It is not the same old design that was billions of years ago. Atleast, as recent as 2 million years ago the model changed significantly to introduce the Neo cortex, which is arguably humanity's boon (and IMHO bane). Given our brain is our main 'niche' tool for survival it is being rigorously tested and selected. So certainly, it is changing. But how much of the observable end results (intelligence, sympathy, cunningness, etc.,) is acquired and how much is naturally endowed is a topic of debate (ex: see the bit about natural history of Ashkenazi intelligence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence ). The maybe every second bit is untrue. Evolution does not happen in seconds (unless you are talking about those species whose life times are in the order of milli seconds... or Hulk ;) ). Individuals don't evolve, individuals have the choice to adapt to (or perish due to) an ever changing world. Those that remain 'carry forward' the process of evolution by passing on their special traits to their young ones. Also, acquired traits are not be passed on to the offsprings during evolution. The knowledge one learns (which may inturn cause physiological state changes in the brain) is not passed on genetically. So if you lost a limb in an accident, thank goodness, atleast your chlidren will have limbs ;) This website helped me learn the basics / validate my understanding of Evolution: http://talkorigins.org/ /off-topic cheers, -Suraj -- Career Gear - Industry Driven Talent Factory http://careergear.in/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Older PC's [OT]
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 12:06 +0530, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: கற்றது கைமண் அளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு - ஔவையார் Known is a drop, Unknown is an ocean should this not be: learned is a drop, not learned is an ocean even allowing for poetic license in substituting 'drop' for 'as big as a handful of earth' and ocean for 'as big as the planet/world' sorry - could not help the nitpick -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] IP address and netmask
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Suraj Kumar su...@careergear.in wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: We should learn 3 special network blocks , 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16 which are not globally unique. This is not technically mandatory anymore. CIDR replaced the class-based network addressing scheme a long time ago. AFAIK, CIDR only dispenses with the need to have rigid network address space and make it network admin definable for his/her convenience. The pvt network blocks still exist and packets meant for it are not allowed to enter the internet. Or am I wrong? You are right. classful addressing still exists in various parts of the Internet. CIDR is technically backwards compatible and hence allows this to exist. Hence I used the phrase this is not *technically mandatory* anymore (ie., the choice is upto you to implement CIDR / classful routing). This can be compared to IPv4 vs IPv6: even if IPv6 becomes widely used, it may still help to learn about our history by knowing about IPv4. Yet, if one is expected to setup a network, it would be short-sighted/foolish to setup an IPv4-only network. This is all I wanted to point out. cheers, -Suraj -- Career Gear - Industry Driven Talent Factory http://careergear.in/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Older PC's [OT]
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:17 PM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 12:06 +0530, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: கற்றது கைமண் அளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு - ஔவையார் Known is a drop, Unknown is an ocean should this not be: learned is a drop, not learned is an ocean You are probably right. But my context is based on the collective, human. I feel `known` as from `knowledge` was more appropriate than `learn` which seemed more individual. Might be wrong. My personal opinion. Who am I to interpret ஔவையார்? :) even allowing for poetic license in substituting 'drop' for 'as big as a handful of earth' and ocean for 'as big as the planet/world' sorry - could not help the nitpick :) Regards, Arun http://wondroussky.blogspot.in/ கற்றது கைமண் அளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு - ஔவையார் Known is a drop, Unknown is an ocean ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop DNS
From 12.04 desktop Ubuntu has dnsmasq as the default DNS caching resolver. This is right now not giving precedence or resolving hosts from my /etc/hosts file. Looking up output of ps shows dnsmasq has been started with the --no-hosts switch (did not seem like that was the defaults when I read up docs on the net on Pangolin). Any pointers on where the start up config for dnsmasq is taken from? I know I can disable dnsmasq in network-manager and go back to pre 12.04 resolution mode or install dnsmasq specifically for a custom config. To do so for just a switch makes me feel dumb. -- Mohan Sundaram ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop DNS
Hi Mohan, This is right now not giving precedence or resolving hosts from my /etc/hosts file. Looking up output of ps shows dnsmasq has been started with the --no-hosts switch (did not seem like that was the defaults when I read up docs on the net on Pangolin). Then what is the user of a hosts file ? if you added the line 8.8.8.8 abc and attempt to ping abc is it not working ? :-0 -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
Does any one know what is the best software for listing out Pros and Cons on Ubuntu. I not wise enough to make Google search understand that I am not looking for pros and cons of Ubuntu rather a software which I could use on Ubuntu to represent them :-( I know many are going to laugh at this post. Why am I ending up in this sort of trouble mostly ? -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 17:19 +0530, Balasubramaniam Natarajan wrote: Does any one know what is the best software for listing out Pros and Cons on Ubuntu. I not wise enough to make Google search understand that I am not looking for pros and cons of Ubuntu rather a software which I could use on Ubuntu to represent them :-( I know many are going to laugh at this post. Why am I ending up in this sort of trouble mostly ? I am laughing -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
I am laughing -- I have to probably settle down with either writer or impress :-( However if someone know a software which is best fit for the job do let me know. -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop DNS
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mohan, This is right now not giving precedence or resolving hosts from my /etc/hosts file. Looking up output of ps shows dnsmasq has been started with the --no-hosts switch (did not seem like that was the defaults when I read up docs on the net on Pangolin). Then what is the user of a hosts file ? if you added the line 8.8.8.8 abc and attempt to ping abc is it not working ? :-0 Does not resolve/ping a host given in /etc/hosts file. I know the problem is due to the --no-hosts switch in dnsmasq start up. It seems like NM is starting a dnsmas instance with a dynamically generated config file or switches from some NM config file. Unable to figure out where it picks it up from. Online docs have not been of much use either. Most of them talk of installing explicitly spawned dnsmasq or pre-12.04 type resolution by disabling dnsmasq in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf. - Mohan Sundaram ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com wrote: I am laughing -- I have to probably settle down with either writer or impress :-( However if someone know a software which is best fit for the job do let me know. well so sad its coming to end so soon , actually i started digginge for something i have seen in past the keyword is TCO , and this is a FOSS tool , it had certain metrics to measure TCO of free softwares , if that is what you meant by pros and cons ? -Satya fossevents.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
n Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com wrote: I am laughing -- I have to probably settle down with either writer or impress :-( However if someone know a software which is best fit for the job do let me know. well so sad its coming to end so soon , actually i started digginge for something i have seen in past the keyword is TCO , and this is a FOSS tool , it had certain metrics to measure TCO of free softwares , if that is what you meant by pros and cons ? ok found it http://www.tcotool.org/ , again i wanted to start by understanding what you meant by pros and cons ? like when you say pros and cons you try to compare it against something which is existing it may be proprietary ...i still do not get your question . lets make it simpler what is the end goal you want as in writing then may be we can work backwards. -Satya fossevents.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] OS Removal
HI Friends, Having an doubt. I am currently installed Ubuntu12.04 , Wins-7 , and Boss OS in my laptop as dual boot up. (i.e., During system startup, The grub will be loaded with menu and I use to select and the concern OS will be loaded.) Now there is in lack of disc space and in order to clean up again, I want to remove my Boss OS from the Laptop, without affecting other OS. And need to allocate that space to the Window and Ubuntu OS. As it is government provided laptop, there is no DVD drive in this Laptop. Can anyone help me out in this. -- regards, Muthukumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OS Removal
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Muthukumar S muthu31ku...@gmail.com wrote: As it is government provided laptop, there is no DVD drive in this Laptop. boot into *buntu sudo apt-get install gparted unmount what is to deleted/formatted use gparted Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OS Removal
Thanks Sir, Will try the same and confirm you. Muthu -Original Message- From: A. Mani Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:06 PM To: ILUG-C Subject: Re: [Ilugc] OS Removal On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Muthukumar S muthu31ku...@gmail.com wrote: As it is government provided laptop, there is no DVD drive in this Laptop. boot into *buntu sudo apt-get install gparted unmount what is to deleted/formatted use gparted Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Mailing List Rule Compliance and mail clients
The most common rule violations (on this list) relate to' trimming of replies' . Top posts happen less often (Should we impose the rule rigorously? as we have many Mods). Imposing this is a problem because of gmail nuisance settings. 'Way too OT' is less common. Recursively sustaining X-posts requires experience (I do it sometimes), but it should be possible for mailing clients to have built-in rules. There are no rule-sets for modern mail clients, suited for glug mailing lists. I think that will be useful. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Older PC's
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote: ... snip ... But there is no end to human ingenuity. There is a famous Tamil proverb Vallavanukku Pullum Ayudham meaning Even a blade of Grass can become a weapon in the hands of a truly capable person. The Voyager space probes which are on the edge of the solar system, nearing interstellar space run with processor much less capable than the processor in the cheapest cell phone you can buy. They work with 8000 bytes of RAM. With this, the human `spirit` in them was capable of bringing voyager 2 on a grand tour of the planets keeping it's date with each planet and is currently `on course` at nearly 17 billion Km from home. Well said - a beautiful perspective.Small is beautiful, Small is powerful, our imagination is the Limitation! -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OS Removal
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Muthukumar S muthu31ku...@gmail.com wrote: As it is government provided laptop, there is no DVD drive in this Laptop. Do you have USB ports and does the BIOS allow to boot from USB ports? Can anyone help me out in this. IMO, none of the hard disk partitions should be mounted when changes are made to it's partition table. I use System Rescue CD [1] (installed on a USB pen drive). It has gparted with which you can redistribute the free disk space. You may have to reinstall GRUB if BOSS was the last OS installed. [1] http://www.sysresccd.org -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT] Recommend vendor to recover data from LTO4 tapes
Tape back ups using FujiFilm LTO4 media (800/1600). Archives created using tar -cf /dev/nst0. The tapes were fine when the archives were created (tested by extracting random sample files from them) but something went wrong in storage (no physical damage). Now a few LTO4 tapes are giving I/O errors when I try to extract data from them. Tried dd_rescue and that too fails giving I/O errors. I am wondering if there is any service provider in India, to extract the data out of the magnetic tapes in a fashion similar to dead hard disks. Please share info if you know of any such provider in India. Thanks, -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
ok found it http://www.tcotool.org/ , again i wanted to start by understanding what you meant by pros and cons ? like when you say pros and cons you try to compare it against something which is existing it may be proprietary ...i still do not get your question . lets make it simpler what is the end goal you want as in writing then may be we can work backwards. I would like to give an eye cachy presentation which shows the pros and cons of using a particular tool. The tool may be any thing. However the open office track which I am currently following is lacking the punch which it needs :-( -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Pros and Cons representing Software
Hey, you can hack around impress.js for creating eye catching presentations. On 6/16/12, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com wrote: ok found it http://www.tcotool.org/ , again i wanted to start by understanding what you meant by pros and cons ? like when you say pros and cons you try to compare it against something which is existing it may be proprietary ...i still do not get your question . lets make it simpler what is the end goal you want as in writing then may be we can work backwards. I would like to give an eye cachy presentation which shows the pros and cons of using a particular tool. The tool may be any thing. However the open office track which I am currently following is lacking the punch which it needs :-( -- Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.etutorshop.com/moodle/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- With Regards, Gaurav Paliwal http://gauravpaliwal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT] what all can happen in a public list...
On Wednesday 06 June 2012 10:27 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: It is okay for people to have difference of opinion, or to disagree with each other, but, person name calling shouldn't happen on a forum or a mailing list. There is something called maintaining the sanctity of the forum or the group. All that a public mailing list requires to send and receive e-mails is a valid e-mail id. So it can never mean in a public list, if an e-mail is received from a e-mail id 'foo', a person exists in that name in reality. let us say, we have 'foo' subscribed to this list as 'foo' itself. we also have 'bar', an allakkai (அல்லக்கை) of 'foo', also subscribed to this list. that would mean, 'foo' can take control of the e-mail id of 'bar' send an e-mail id to the list creating an impression that 'bar' sent the e-mail. 'bar' don't have that much fluency in english as 'foo' has. now, 'foo' is also subscribed to this list as 'baz'. 'foo' 'baz' are the same. 'baz' doesn't exist in reality, but when ever people in the list receives an e-mail from 'baz' they tend to think, a person by name e-mail id 'baz' sent the e-mail. In the past, it is a habit of 'foo', to send e-mail to the list normally with id 'baz'. - 'foo' creates an enmity towards 'qux' who is also part of the list for reasons known only to it decides to flame 'qux' on the list. a mail to the list is sent as 'baz' starting the flame. 'foo' then responds to itself substantiating claims of 'baz'. The purpose of misleading/ deceiving the list members is served. then, as difference of opinion arises, 'foo' logs into allakkai 'bar''s account to send another mail, further solidifying the impression created among the list members. --- such things happen, more could be done but all the constructive work would get lost, getting into destructive mode. personally, the best way out is to ignore forgive 'foo' and move ahead. I wish 'foo' 'bar' comes forward to work for ILUGC, despite this, which is all that can be expected. The doors are still open to solve any issues personally, diplomatically or any other amicable means. Personal relationship helps ;-) but it has to be reminded to the list ids on the list that such acts as per IT Amendment act 2008, might come under section 66A(c) that reads, any electronic mail or electronic mail message for the purpose of causing annoyance or inconvenience or to deceive or to mislead the addressee or recipient about the origin of such messages, shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years and with fine. http://www.mit.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/downloads/itact2000/it_amendment_act2008.pdf - (page 9 10) -- no harm intended. :-) I have been part of several mailing list is also administrator of few. Am aware that such things are common, tolerance is the key. Hope I have avoided name calling as far as possible. :-) -- Amachu ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] what all can happen in a public list...
Hi, --- On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:12 AM, ஆமாச்சு ama...@amachu.net wrote: | So it can never mean in a public list, if an e-mail is received from a | e-mail id 'foo', a person exists in that name in reality. \-- You missed the point. It doesn't matter who it is. Name calling on a list or a forum is a definite no-no. Period. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] what all can happen in a public list...
no harm intended. :-) I have been part of several mailing list is also administrator of few. Am aware that such things are common, tolerance is the key. Hope I have avoided name calling as far as possible. :-) Yes i have seen these kind of people , just like you see different kinds of people in real life , my experience so far has been they live with alter ego's so this serves as a conduit to get it out , in one incident i have see a person being manipulative the way you have suggested , generally i am tolerant and in good mood and ignore all this. But looking back and thinking about it i think its time to mend this behavior by nailing them , again it has got nothing to do with IT act or Law simply they need to learn one more lesson in social behavior be it Mailing list or real world. Do you know how to do it i mean collect conclusive proof of identities , one way to enforce could be is to have gpg keys and everyone signs , the problem with this solution just like UID is it is exclusive in nature , what if someone is not interested , it is too painful in implementation it works just fine in one on one mode and what about groups , i still have to come across such a group which uses gpg for there communications in mailing lists. Other problem with this idea is we have to take pain to enforce it , like in start we would need key signing parties to begin with once the web of trust has been built then the communications part will come back to normal. but still our problem of multiple identities is not solved hopefully it will deter the kind of behavior we are talking about. are there any simpler ways like reading the headers .the way i have done it is by reading the word use pattern in mail , and identify the individual , then go and confront the individual in person then look for the clues in his voice tone , his denial mode his expression on face ...still this does not have the conclusive proof i am interested in. one more thing that can be done it publicly punching this other person so much that it becomes costly (time wise) to keep up with the multiple identities and ultimately he gives up his alter self. -Satya fossevents.in fossevents.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] OS Removal
Yes Arun, Yes, BIOS allows USB Bootable. Muthukumsr On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Muthukumar S muthu31ku...@gmail.com wrote: As it is government provided laptop, there is no DVD drive in this Laptop. Do you have USB ports and does the BIOS allow to boot from USB ports? Can anyone help me out in this. IMO, none of the hard disk partitions should be mounted when changes are made to it's partition table. I use System Rescue CD [1] (installed on a USB pen drive). It has gparted with which you can redistribute the free disk space. You may have to reinstall GRUB if BOSS was the last OS installed. [1] http://www.sysresccd.org -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- regards, Muthukumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] pv - progress bar for commands without progress indication
I wanted to write about this as I learnt it recently. But Bharathi has already done it. http://bharathi.posterous.com/one-day-one-gnulinux-command-pv simple usage: $ pv foo.iso | sha1sum It shows ETA, percentage and time elapsed and many other things. I use it in my ISO installer to show the progress of installation. Since I use Perl nCurses I wanted a tool to show progress with my own interface but data should come from elsewhere in the backend. pv has a -n switch which gave me just the percentage, so I used it and got my job done. I was very happy. ;) -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech http://gayatri-hitech.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
