Re: [Ilugc] Are we planning SFD for 2012.

2012-06-24 Thread ஆமாச்சு
On Saturday 23 June 2012 11:15 AM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote:
> Hi Guyz,
>
> Is there any preparation for Software Freedom Day this year?.

Srini,

has been asking for volunteers for a Ubuntu/ Fedora release party.

Very few turned out & that is not conducted yet.

We need to first raise hands here, if this has to happen.

I raise here.

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Re: [Ilugc] Are we planning SFD for 2012.

2012-06-24 Thread ஆமாச்சு
On Saturday 23 June 2012 11:44 PM, Vignesh Nandha Kumar wrote:
> I'm wondering how different is fossconf from SFD. As far as I remember,
> from the fossconf 08 at MIT (It was my first year of college at MIT and
> that's where I got introduced to FOSS, by working as a *non-tech* volunteer
> ;)), it was more like an SFD - demo stalls and some talks.

NRCFOSS & its members were there, We had ILUGC volunteers, MIT students 
& many more & that happened well.

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[Ilugc] Instrumental from MP3 using Audiocity ??

2012-06-24 Thread தங்கமணி அருண் || Thangamani Arun
Dear All,

Did any one tried extracting instrumental from MP3 song using Audiocity ??

If not is there any other opensource tool to do the same work??

Thanks
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Re: [Ilugc] Instrumental from MP3 using Audiocity ??

2012-06-24 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
2012/6/24 தங்கமணி அருண் || Thangamani Arun :
> Dear All,
>
> Did any one tried extracting instrumental from MP3 song using Audiocity ??
>
> If not is there any other opensource tool to do the same work??
>

Your Tamizh fonts display very beautifully in my OpenBSD.

Okay now audacity can only remove voice track if multiple tracks are
preserved in
the format.

I don't think mp3 has support for it.

Best of luck.

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[Ilugc] error while installing android in virtual box

2012-06-24 Thread prakash p
I tried to install android 4.0 icecream sandwich on my laptop,  but after
certain stage it getting error like following
( (Cannot mount /dev/sda1  - Do you want to format it?) if i give "y es" it
shows
it can't format it,  it doesn't work, drops back to the format screen,
and I get this error again, and the same happens.)
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Re: [Ilugc] error while installing android in virtual box

2012-06-24 Thread Prasanna Venkadesh
Hi prakash,

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:41 PM, prakash p  wrote:

> I tried to install android 4.0 icecream sandwich on my laptop,  but after
>

You didn't mention details about which GNU/Linux you are using. I hope its
LinuxMint as you are my friend, but others won't know it until you say for
them to help you.


> certain stage it getting error like following
> ( (Cannot mount /dev/sda1  - Do you want to format it?) if i give "y es" it
> shows
> it can't format it,  it doesn't work, drops back to the format screen,
> and I get this error again, and the same happens.)
>

Try these steps and tell me
http://www.billsdon.com/2011/12/setup-android-development-environment-linux-mint-12-lisa/


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Re: [Ilugc] Instrumental from MP3 using Audiocity ??

2012-06-24 Thread Roshan George
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 18:07 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> Your Tamizh fonts display very beautifully in my OpenBSD.

Ha ha. That's nice to hear.

> Okay now audacity can only remove voice track if multiple tracks are
> preserved in
> the format.

Girish is right, here. You can get a nice perfect result only if you
already have the tracks separately. However, there are things you can
try with Audacity, and they're listed on the [Audacity
Wiki](http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Vocal_Removal).

This sort of thing is usually used to get karaoke tracks, so that's a
keyword worth searching for if you want to try other methods as well.

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Re: [Ilugc] Instrumental from MP3 using Audiocity ??

2012-06-24 Thread Sunit Sivasankaran
For those interested in science, the process of obtaining different  sound
"streams"  from an audio such as instrumentals or vocals, is an active
research topic in the field of audio signal processing. You can use CASA
(computational auditory scene analysis) or blind source separation as
keywords to dig out more information.

Regards,
Sunit


On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Roshan George  wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 18:07 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> > Your Tamizh fonts display very beautifully in my OpenBSD.
>
> Ha ha. That's nice to hear.
>
> > Okay now audacity can only remove voice track if multiple tracks are
> > preserved in
> > the format.
>
> Girish is right, here. You can get a nice perfect result only if you
> already have the tracks separately. However, there are things you can
> try with Audacity, and they're listed on the [Audacity
> Wiki](http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Vocal_Removal).
>
> This sort of thing is usually used to get karaoke tracks, so that's a
> keyword worth searching for if you want to try other methods as well.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] Net Traffic Log

2012-06-24 Thread Arun Khan
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Harisankar P S  wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Is there a way to keep track of the network traffic through all the
> different interface devices in my system. Or a library to do so, I want to
> create a log that store the total size of file transfered since the script
> or program starts running.

bandwidthd  does this with nice graphics.Most tools measure the
traffic over and interface; on an individual file basis I don't know.
 It tracks the "total" data over an interface by protocol.

More details see 

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Re: [Ilugc] Free CAD/AUTOCAD Software

2012-06-24 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jacob G Podipara  wrote:

> Hi;
>  Would anyone be able to give some inputs regarding drawing software to
> generate architectural and
> structural drawings like AutoCAd and comparison thereof.
>

I've tried using some of the free alternatives and found them difficult to
use after having used Autocad. It had more to do with lack of features as
one is accustomed to think in terms of features that Autocad offers. I wish
some where good enough for simple drafting. QCAD is supposed to be good but
I still had difficulty using it.

Draftsight is not an open source but a free drafting software released by
Dassault Systemes which can read ACAD files and is pretty good for
drafting. Pure 2D.

Would like to hear experiences others have ahd with CAD packages.

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Re: [Ilugc] Free CAD/AUTOCAD Software

2012-06-24 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Mohan Sundaram  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jacob G Podipara 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi;
> >  Would anyone be able to give some inputs regarding drawing software to
> > generate architectural and
> > structural drawings like AutoCAd and comparison thereof.
> >
>
> I've tried using some of the free alternatives and found them difficult to
> use after having used Autocad. It had more to do with lack of features as
> one is accustomed to think in terms of features that Autocad offers. I wish
> some where good enough for simple drafting. QCAD is supposed to be good but
> I still had difficulty using it.
>
>



> Would like to hear experiences others have ahd with CAD packages.
>


My father's company had no choice but to stick to Autocad. There were a few
alternatives like Turbocad which was much cheaper and was good. The reason
why we had to stick to Autocad was because of employees. The existing
draftsmen (who call themselves design engineers) were not willing to learn
any new software. When we started to interview new people, some of them
 thought that we were weird  to use anything other than Autocad and a
majority thought that it would be a career disaster for them to work on a
non Autocad using company.

[rant]
That's the state of our nation. Draftsmen who think they are engineers and
engineers who forget that any software is a tool. At least this shallowness
is currently limited to the college educated lot in our country :) Wonder
when car drivers are going to demand a BMW  to get employed.

Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] Free CAD/AUTOCAD Software

2012-06-24 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Arun Venkataswamy  wrote:
>
> My father's company had no choice but to stick to Autocad. There were a few
> alternatives like Turbocad which was much cheaper and was good. The reason
> why we had to stick to Autocad was because of employees. The existing
> draftsmen (who call themselves design engineers) were not willing to learn
> any new software. When we started to interview new people, some of them
>  thought that we were weird  to use anything other than Autocad and a
> majority thought that it would be a career disaster for them to work on a
> non Autocad using company.

Although I know nothing about engineering drawing(save doing it in
college) or CAD,

I will pass general remarks.

Learning something new is hard.

It is hard for me, hard for you, hard for everyone.

Only that it is less hard for certain people as they have trained
their brains for that.

Whenever we learn something new, a new channel has to form in the
brain. It is like
a needle laid on top of a clay like matter. It has to slowly form its
impression.

So this resistance is not unusual or unacceptable.

>
> [rant]
> That's the state of our nation. Draftsmen who think they are engineers and
> engineers who forget that any software is a tool. At least this shallowness
> is currently limited to the college educated lot in our country :) Wonder
> when car drivers are going to demand a BMW  to get employed.

Well as long as there is poverty in our country, as long as we are not
as  well off as some
 Western nation people will always be available for work.

It is all about demand/supply.

In general I think if we pay good money you get good people and if
your company is
 known to be stable.

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[Ilugc] Tools for simulating network issues

2012-06-24 Thread Suraj Kumar
Hi,

I'm looking for ways to simulate network issues. Specifically, the
following scenarios:

IP
  - packet loss
TCP
  - connection establishment takes time
  - connection established, but server application is slow / unresponsive
  - piled up connections / running out of sockets

The end goal is to expose learners to these problems and be able to show
how tools like netstat or collectd's graphs will behave upon each scenario.

I don't have multiple real machines, I have 8 VMs running inside a
reasonably powerful quad core box. The box has only one network card. The
"learners" do a graphical login to the box over LTSP and ssh into the
various VMs.

Theoretically, I do see a way to achieve these by developing relevant
netfilter modules - however, I don't know if any ready made modules exist
or how easy/time consuming it may be to develop a netfilter module,
especially given I want the simulation to be highly controllable. Am I
right in my approach?

Any suggestions / pointers to tools will be helpful.

thanks,

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Re: [Ilugc] Net Traffic Log

2012-06-24 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Harisankar P S  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Is there a way to keep track of the network traffic through all the
> different interface devices in my system. Or a library to do so, I want to
> create a log that store the total size of file transfered since the script
> or program starts running.
>

Check out Collectd: http://collectd.org/

cheers,

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Re: [Ilugc] Tools for simulating network issues

2012-06-24 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi Suraj,

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Suraj Kumar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for ways to simulate network issues. Specifically, the
> following scenarios:
>
> IP
>  - packet loss
> TCP
>  - connection establishment takes time
>  - connection established, but server application is slow / unresponsive
>  - piled up connections / running out of sockets
>

I guess the tc tool would be of use to you. You can do
something like this:

# tc qdisc add dev eth0 root netem delay 100ms

for adding a 100ms delay to all packets. It can be deleted later. tc
lets us do a lot of things. This was just an example. A wrapper script
over tc should be able to do the job.

> The end goal is to expose learners to these problems and be able to show
> how tools like netstat or collectd's graphs will behave upon each scenario.
>

Nice way to teach :) Hope colleges do something like this. Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] Free CAD/AUTOCAD Software

2012-06-24 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Mohan Sundaram 
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jacob G Podipara 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi;
> > >  Would anyone be able to give some inputs regarding drawing software to
> > > generate architectural and
> > > structural drawings like AutoCAd and comparison thereof.
> > >
> >
> > I've tried using some of the free alternatives and found them difficult
> to
> > use after having used Autocad. It had more to do with lack of features as
> > one is accustomed to think in terms of features that Autocad offers. I
> wish
> > some where good enough for simple drafting. QCAD is supposed to be good
> but
> > I still had difficulty using it.> Would like to hear experiences others
> have ahd with CAD packages.
>
> If I was running a business needing drafting, I would have made sure I
learnt one of the free packages. It is just a hobby for me and I'm trying
to keep in touch with what I did more than 23 years ago. I found Draftsight
reasonably easy to use. Like I said before, it is free but not open source.

My father's company had no choice but to stick to Autocad. There were a few
> alternatives like Turbocad which was much cheaper and was good. The reason
> why we had to stick to Autocad was because of employees. The existing
> draftsmen (who call themselves design engineers) were not willing to learn
> any new software. When we started to interview new people, some of them
>  thought that we were weird  to use anything other than Autocad and a
> majority thought that it would be a career disaster for them to work on a
> non Autocad using company.
>

Normal issue with FOSS w.r.t career enhancement

>
> [rant]
> That's the state of our nation. Draftsmen who think they are engineers and
> engineers who forget that any software is a tool. At least this shallowness
> is currently limited to the college educated lot in our country :) Wonder
> when car drivers are going to demand a BMW  to get employed.
>

 It is pretty much a vicious cycle that needs to be broken. Businesses must
first adopt it, get their employees to learn it by investing in training
and insist no piracy will be entertained.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tools for simulating network issues

2012-06-24 Thread M K Saravanan
Usually for a quick testing, I use FreeBSD-based live CD Frenzy as a VM
(create a VM and assign the ISO image of the CD and boot directly from it
with out installing anything) and use "ipfw" to simulate bandwidth, latency
and packet loss.

http://frenzy.org.ua/eng/

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[Ilugc] Query: Tools for monitoring servers

2012-06-24 Thread K.C. Ramakrishna
Hi all,

We are trying to look into monitoring servers in Beta and Prod environments.

The stack:
a. 2(more in future) Front End apache httpd/tomcat/Liferay Servers
b. Independent CAS-SSO and SOLR servers.
c. standalone server running webservices (written in Java)
d. 2MySQL (Percona) servers 1 WRITE server and both READ.
e. Front end Hardware Load Balancers.

We want to monitor continuously:
a. All the Linux boxes and the services running on them,
b. The performance (and history) of the Java applications too.

We are exploring the best ways to monitor the whole setup including alerts and 
automated restarts etc. We are primarily from a development background with 
only basic admin experience (basic bash, installations, tuning etc).

I have researched all the usual suspects: Cacti, Nagios, ZenOSS, Zabix?..
JMX seems to be very popular for tomcat/Java.

What are your recommendations for handling this scenario? What are the pros and 
cons of various tools and approaches?
Please do share your thoughts on what will be a good solution. All live 
examples will be very welcome in educating us.

Thanks,
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[Ilugc] Image processing in 16 bit color depth?

2012-06-24 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
Hi,

Gimp is limited to handling 8 bit color depth only.
Any pointers to a good alternative in Linux to handle 16 bit color depth?
I use UFRaw to manage raw file from the camera and it handles all color
depths. But I need something interactive like Gimp for post processing.

Also, anybody else interested in long exposure photography and/or astro
photography? One tool which is an absolute must is a stacking software.
This seems non existent in the Linux world. My image processing / math
skills are not good enough to write one on my own. Anybody else having any
luck on this? I am forced to depend on my Windows box to do most of the
processing work. Writing a stacking software for Linux does seem inviting
as the monsoons have set in and our telescopes and cameras are locked in...

Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] Net Traffic Log

2012-06-24 Thread Balasubramaniam Natarajan
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Harisankar P S  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Is there a way to keep track of the network traffic through all the
> different interface devices in my system. Or a library to do so, I want to
> create a log that store the total size of file transfered since the script
> or program starts running.
>
>
vnstat is also good at it.

vnstat -i eth0 -d

 eth0  /  daily

 day rx  | tx  |total|   avg. rate
 +-+-+---
  05/27/12 28.17 MiB |5.02 MiB |   33.19 MiB |3.15 kbit/s
  05/28/12 0 KiB |   0 KiB |   0 KiB |0.00 kbit/s
  05/29/12 20.62 MiB |3.32 MiB |   23.94 MiB |2.27 kbit/s


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Re: [Ilugc] Image processing in 16 bit color depth?

2012-06-24 Thread Balasubramaniam Natarajan
I don't have much idea about this, How about imagemagick ?

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Re: [Ilugc] Tools for simulating network issues

2012-06-24 Thread Suraj Kumar
Hi Bala,

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar <
benignb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I guess the tc tool would be of use to you. You can do
> something like this:
>
> # tc qdisc add dev eth0 root netem delay 100ms
>
> for adding a 100ms delay to all packets. It can be deleted later. tc
> lets us do a lot of things. This was just an example. A wrapper script
> over tc should be able to do the job.
>

Thanks. didn't know about tc. Looks like this will be useful for part of my
needs (for atleast simulating latency).

cheers,

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Re: [Ilugc] Free CAD/AUTOCAD Software

2012-06-24 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Kingsley G. Morse Jr.
 wrote:
> Hi Jacob,
>
> I liked blender better than librecad.
>
> If I recall correctly, it has better
> documentation, and a more helpful IRC channel.
>
> I hope that helps,
> Kingsley
>

For drafting alone, IMHO, Autocad is an overkill.

And there is freecad.
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=Main_Page

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[Ilugc] Watermark using Composite, Python and Identify

2012-06-24 Thread Balasubramaniam Natarajan
A few days ago I wanted to watermark few of my images on command line and I
wrote this blog
http://bullet-bala.blogspot.in/2012/06/adding-watermark.htmland the
trouble which I had was that the Watermark was either very small or
very big and got out of the final image. The result of which I created a
small python script to extract the Dimension of an image and resize my
Watermarker so my water marker always looks okay on the final image.

Initial step create an watermark image and put in inside
/usr/local/src/watermark1.jpeg or whereever you desire and change the
script accordingly.

Next call my python script on command line like so

Process of Adding
WaterMark

Python 
Script


The text version of the python script is in
here

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Re: [Ilugc] Tools for simulating network issues

2012-06-24 Thread Balasubramaniam Natarajan
>
> Thanks. didn't know about tc. Looks like this will be useful for part of my
> needs (for atleast simulating latency).
>
>
Just had a look at its manpages, I am happy to learn that at least learned
that such a tool exists.

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/tc.8.html
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Re: [Ilugc] Query: Tools for monitoring servers

2012-06-24 Thread Balasubramaniam Natarajan
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:16 AM, K.C. Ramakrishna
wrote:

>
>
> I have researched all the usual suspects: Cacti, Nagios, ZenOSS, Zabix?..
> JMX seems to be very popular for tomcat/Java.
>
> What are your recommendations for handling this scenario? What are the
> pros and cons of various tools and approaches?
> Please do share your thoughts on what will be a good solution. All live
> examples will be very welcome in educating us.
>
>
I have used xymon before and it is really good.

http://www.xymon.com/


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Re: [Ilugc] Image processing in 16 bit color depth?

2012-06-24 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Arun Venkataswamy  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Gimp is limited to handling 8 bit color depth only.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

[quote]
GEGL
The Generic Graphics Library (GEGL) was first introduced as part of
GIMP on the 2.6 release of GIMP. This initial introduction does not
yet exploit all of the capabilities of GEGL; as of the 2.6 release,
GIMP can use GEGL to perform high bit-depth color operations; because
of this less information is lost when performing color operations.[33]
When fully integrated, GEGL will allow GIMP to have a higher color bit
depth and also a better non-destructive work-flow.
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