Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: Do not approach learning as an activity that is reactionary or only for solving a problem at hand. Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper. But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve - then keep doing it. Achieving rewards our brain (dopamine circuitry and such) in ways to reinforce learning way better than 'organized' learning attempts. Thus, classrooms (and syllabuses and standardized tests) are ineffective ways of learning (and here I agree completely with you). Only open ended learning outside of the syllabus will help you. Life does not have a syllabus. Exams and grades do not help you after your first job. Actually, nowadays, not even for the first job... and I HOPE the trend continues and forces the system of education as it is practiced today to become utterly useless and obsolete. Flipkart is probably going IPO soon, this may be an interesting change to a long recurring trend (where the only kind of IPOs that happened in India in the IT sector were services companies which mostly sold indian labour, much like what happened in the 19th century). The many emerging indian startups are thinking radically different - for once, as I may have mentioned here earlier, they are open to hiring anyone with any background, irrespective of their academic performance, provided they can DO WORK (read: solve problems, writes good code, understands fundamentals well and can learn). Afterall, what's more to keeping pace with the world of computers than constant self-learning? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Suraj Kumar su...@careergear.in wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: Do not approach learning as an activity that is reactionary or only for solving a problem at hand. Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper. But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve - then keep doing it. Achieving rewards our brain (dopamine circuitry and such) in ways to reinforce learning way better than 'organized' learning attempts. Thus, classrooms (and syllabuses and standardized tests) are ineffective ways of learning (and here I agree completely with you). Only open ended learning outside of the syllabus will help you. Life does not have a syllabus. Exams and grades do not help you after your first job. Actually, nowadays, not even for the first job... and I HOPE the trend continues and forces the system of education as it is practiced today to become utterly useless and obsolete. Flipkart is probably going IPO soon, this may be an interesting change to a long recurring trend (where the only kind of IPOs that happened in India in the IT sector were services companies which mostly sold indian labour, much like what happened in the 19th century). The many emerging indian startups are thinking radically different - for once, as I may have mentioned here earlier, they are open to hiring anyone with any background, irrespective of their academic performance, provided they can DO WORK (read: solve problems, writes good code, understands fundamentals well and can learn). Afterall, what's more to keeping pace with the world of computers than constant self-learning? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines On the contrary, I agree with Girish 100%. I have seen people who learn for pleasure and not forced upon bya a goal seems to have true knowledge (but not money :( ) -- Nothing is constant Regards A.K.Karthikeyan http://is.gd/kblogs ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages
Hi, Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper. But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve - then keep doing it. Many times reaching a goal is the ultimate aim. Once the goal is met, the tools and the path taken may seem irrelevant. At that moment, learning ceases to happen. If I have a good enough internet connection, i can google up or look up stackoverflow for references to solve the problem at hand. Learning does not happen! Very few are actually inspired to go beyond the problem they just solved. Ok. I did not attempt to prove a point or disagree with you or others in the thread. Its just a thought I felt a need to share! Abishek ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5
-- Forwarded message -- From: Arun Prakash arunprakash@gmail.com Date: 11-Jun-2013 12:25 PM Subject: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5 To: FSFTN mailingl...@fsftn.org Cc: -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff Beatty jbea...@mozilla.com Date: 2013/6/8 Subject: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5 To: dev-l10n...@lists.mozilla.org Hi everyone! I'm so very happy to send you this email. If you'll visit the Tamil dashboard you'll notice something spectacular (https://l10n.mozilla.org/** teams/ta https://l10n.mozilla.org/teams/ta). I have visited this dashboard so much that when I begin typing in the URL for the l10n dashboards, Tamil is the first autosuggest :-) Congratulations Tamil team, you've produced the first up-to-date version of Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5! In approximately 2.5 weeks, this release will move from Beta to the more widely distributed Release channel. Fantastic work everyone! You all deserve a celebration, and I certainly hope that the local Mozilla Reps are currently working on one (if you need any help with this, please let me know). Please keep up the fantastic work! You all are astounding! The people of your country and region should be very proud to know of all of your hard work in making the internet more accessible by localizing Firefox into Tamil. Thank you, Jeff -- *Jeff Beatty* L10n Program Manager @mozilla_l10n http://twitter.com/mozilla_**l10n http://twitter.com/mozilla_l10n 801.367.3763 __**_ dev-l10n-ta mailing list dev-l10n...@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/dev-l10n-ta https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n-ta -- Regards, Arun Prakash ___ Mailinglist mailing list mailingl...@fsftn.org http://fsftn.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_fsftn.org ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5
If you'll visit the Tamil dashboard you'll notice something spectacular (https://l10n.mozilla.org/** teams/ta https://l10n.mozilla.org/teams/ta). I have visited this dashboard so much that when I begin typing in the URL for the l10n dashboards, Tamil is the first autosuggest :-) Nice to see that.. Thank you all and Congratulations -- Regards, ARUN P A Tailor’s mistake is a Fashion But, An Engineer’s mistake is a Disaster. Preserve the earth; Else we will perish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Tamil team, you've produced the first up-to-date version of Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5! In approximately 2.5 weeks, this release will move from Beta to the more widely distributed Release channel. Nice. During the regular meetings of the LUG and, at other places where it can be pitched, would you consider insisting that users give the build a try? Feedback is essential to keep the process going. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] M$ IIT KGP
http://iitkgp.ac.in/tenders/gate_online.pdf (This was mentioned by Girish Ponkiya in Glug-Cal list ) M$ seems to be offering larger bribes to bureaucrats at IITs. Only M$ products are mentioned in p14. We really need to develop an automated activism system to handle all this. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS http://www.logicamani.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines