Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages

2013-06-11 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do not approach learning as an activity that is reactionary or only
 for solving a problem at hand.



Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do
things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper.
But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve -
then keep doing it. Achieving rewards our brain (dopamine circuitry
and such) in ways to reinforce learning way better than 'organized'
learning attempts. Thus, classrooms (and syllabuses and standardized
tests) are ineffective ways of learning (and here I agree completely
with you).


 Only open ended learning outside of the syllabus will help you.

 Life does not have a syllabus. Exams and grades do not help you after
 your first job.


Actually, nowadays, not even for the first job... and I HOPE the trend
continues and forces the system of education as it is practiced today
to become utterly useless and obsolete. Flipkart is probably going IPO
soon, this may be an interesting change to a long recurring trend
(where the only kind of IPOs that happened in India in the IT sector
were services companies which mostly sold indian labour, much like
what happened in the 19th century). The many emerging indian startups
are thinking radically different - for once, as I may have mentioned
here earlier, they are open to hiring anyone with any background,
irrespective of their academic performance, provided they can DO WORK
(read: solve problems, writes good code, understands fundamentals well
and can learn). Afterall, what's more to keeping pace with the world
of computers than constant self-learning?
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Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages

2013-06-11 Thread Karthikeyan A.K
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Suraj Kumar su...@careergear.in wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Do not approach learning as an activity that is reactionary or only
  for solving a problem at hand.



 Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do
 things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper.
 But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve -
 then keep doing it. Achieving rewards our brain (dopamine circuitry
 and such) in ways to reinforce learning way better than 'organized'
 learning attempts. Thus, classrooms (and syllabuses and standardized
 tests) are ineffective ways of learning (and here I agree completely
 with you).


  Only open ended learning outside of the syllabus will help you.
 
  Life does not have a syllabus. Exams and grades do not help you after
  your first job.


 Actually, nowadays, not even for the first job... and I HOPE the trend
 continues and forces the system of education as it is practiced today
 to become utterly useless and obsolete. Flipkart is probably going IPO
 soon, this may be an interesting change to a long recurring trend
 (where the only kind of IPOs that happened in India in the IT sector
 were services companies which mostly sold indian labour, much like
 what happened in the 19th century). The many emerging indian startups
 are thinking radically different - for once, as I may have mentioned
 here earlier, they are open to hiring anyone with any background,
 irrespective of their academic performance, provided they can DO WORK
 (read: solve problems, writes good code, understands fundamentals well
 and can learn). Afterall, what's more to keeping pace with the world
 of computers than constant self-learning?
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On the contrary, I agree with Girish 100%. I have seen people who learn for
pleasure and not forced upon  bya a goal seems to have true knowledge (but
not money :( )

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Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages

2013-06-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do

 things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper.
 But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve -
 then keep doing it.


Many times reaching a goal is the ultimate aim. Once the goal is met, the
tools and the path taken may seem irrelevant. At that moment, learning
ceases to happen. If I have a good enough internet connection, i can google
up or look up stackoverflow for references to solve the problem at hand.
Learning does not happen! Very few are actually inspired to go beyond the
problem they just solved.

Ok. I did not attempt to prove a point or disagree with you or others in
the thread. Its just a thought I felt a need to share!

Abishek
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[Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5

2013-06-11 Thread Shrinivasan T
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From: Arun Prakash arunprakash@gmail.com
Date: 11-Jun-2013 12:25 PM
Subject: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil
since Firefox 5
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From: Jeff Beatty jbea...@mozilla.com
Date: 2013/6/8
Subject: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5
To: dev-l10n...@lists.mozilla.org


Hi everyone!

I'm so very happy to send you this email. If you'll visit the Tamil
dashboard you'll notice something spectacular (https://l10n.mozilla.org/**
teams/ta https://l10n.mozilla.org/teams/ta). I have visited this
dashboard so much that when I begin typing in the URL for the l10n
dashboards, Tamil is the first autosuggest :-)

Congratulations Tamil team, you've produced the first up-to-date version of
Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5! In approximately 2.5 weeks, this release
will move from Beta to the more widely distributed Release channel.

Fantastic work everyone! You all deserve a celebration, and I certainly
hope that the local Mozilla Reps are currently working on one (if you need
any help with this, please let me know). Please keep up the fantastic work!
You all are astounding! The people of your country and region should be
very proud to know of all of your hard work in making the internet more
accessible by localizing Firefox into Tamil.

Thank you,
Jeff

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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5

2013-06-11 Thread ARUN PALANIAPPAN
 If you'll visit the Tamil
 dashboard you'll notice something spectacular (https://l10n.mozilla.org/**
 teams/ta https://l10n.mozilla.org/teams/ta). I have visited this
 dashboard so much that when I begin typing in the URL for the l10n
 dashboards, Tamil is the first autosuggest :-)


Nice to see that..
Thank you all and Congratulations

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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Fwd: [மொசில்லா தமிழ்] First update for Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5

2013-06-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congratulations Tamil team, you've produced the first up-to-date version of
 Firefox in Tamil since Firefox 5! In approximately 2.5 weeks, this release
 will move from Beta to the more widely distributed Release channel.

Nice. During the regular meetings of the LUG and, at other places
where it can be pitched, would you consider insisting that users give
the build a try? Feedback is essential to keep the process going.


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[Ilugc] M$ IIT KGP

2013-06-11 Thread A. Mani
http://iitkgp.ac.in/tenders/gate_online.pdf
(This was mentioned by Girish Ponkiya in Glug-Cal list )

M$ seems to be offering larger bribes to bureaucrats at IITs.
Only M$ products are mentioned in p14.

We really need to develop an automated activism system to handle all this.



Best

A. Mani


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