Re: [Ilugc] nice to see some changes
Even I feel top posting is more useful and convenient as well. Perhaps Kenneth is a old man who doesn't like changes. Even bill gates doesn't like change. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Dell laptop (i7, 8GB RAM) with Ubuntu
I want to purchase a Dell laptop... I am a regular Ubuntu user. Recently Dell went private, and Microsoft is a major investor. I tried installing Linux on Dell Optiplex series and gave up after tearing my hair out. It is painful. Dell has discontinued Linux desktop offerings, so if you want a Linux desktop go to some other company brand or best assemble with Intel boards from the market. They are 25% cheaper and guaranteed to run Linux (all flavours) smoothly. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] [Job] Wanted: OpenERP, PHP, Drupal experienced candidates
The open source division of KGISL requires skilled, experienced candidates with minimum 1 year experience and 2 completed projects, in the above areas: 1. OpenERP - 4 engineers wanted urgently, minimum 1 year experience 2. PHP based website development and maintenance - experience in CakePHP or Frameworks will be an advantae 3. Drupal: Should have developed atleast 2 projects using Drupal Interested candidates please contact me offline. The jobs are based in Coimbatore, salary will be based on skill levels, will match the best in the Industry. Sundaram KR Director - Technology k...@kggroup.com 9487163035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] some common Linux commands
So let me focus on Linux. Ha ha... you have focused on GNU which is the operating system that contains all the nice programs you spoke about. Linux is just the kernel. Cheers ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [[Need Suggestion]] Want to buy a tablet
Kindly guide me which one should I go for: What do you want to do with the tablet? Without mentioning that, how can you ask for advice? Do you want to use it as a computer? For reading and replying to emails? Do you want a keyboard option? Or just to impress your girlfriend? ;-) I mean you attach importance to things like front camera and rear camera? Describe your requirement in detail when asking for advice. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [[Need Suggestion]] Want to buy a tablet
There are white box no brand tablets with calling option for 15000 Rs with 10 screen size and USB for kbd and mouse. Android is best except there are no good apps to create documents. Some tablets give you Linux OS as an option but no means to make calls. I will check that and update. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [[Need Suggestion]] Want to buy a tablet
Don't go for Samsung or Nexus or Asus Transformer tablets. You can get custom built tablets at ridiculously low prices from here: http://www.uplaytablet.com/product/uplay-tablet-t931-9-white-label-tablet-dual-core-1024x600-hd-screen-dual-cameras/ After all taxes and duties, you will get very good tablet for less than 12,000/- ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Raspberry Pi clones offering significantly improved specifications compared to the original
What is the approximate pricing for Banana Pi and HummingBoard systems? Cn we buy them in India? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Need help in configuring Asterisk and FreePBX
I have a server loaded with Asterisk and FreePBX. I need help in configuring the server. I need to configure 15 PC based IP extensions, and caller id integration with our software. We will pay for this support, Interested people kindly contact me offlist. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Need help in configuring Asterisk and FreePBX
ssh access and web access to the server will be provided. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [puduvailug] Time to celebrate
TamilNadu Government ordered state departments to switch to Free Software. - But I think many XP machines will not easily be able to work with Linux; unless the hardware was verified for Linux support during purchase. Things like ACPI, Graphics card, network card etc. have been known to misbehave in Linux while working perfectly fine under Windows XP. Also, to my knowledge there are some applications built in client-server model using .Net, how will these applications run under Linux? In our College, a batch of more than 300 Wipro machines are working only with CentOS, and network card is working only in 10Mbps mode; but in XP 10/100Mbps is supported. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [slightly OT] Plan of setting up 100+ FOSS Labs on April 8th, 2014 in Academic Institutions
Baskar: Congratulations; this is a wonderful initiative from your side. I have a thinking: Please go thru and send me your views: Can you draw up a user manual or tutorial so that the College can do thi migration by themselves? If so, we can make it a co-ordinated event and get publicity also. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Open source video streaming
I am looking to stream the graduation day event in my college; for parents to view over the internet. I have tried Googling; but I am only getting commercial and proprietary solutions. Can anyone please recommend open source video streaming code that takes video input from camera? I prefer tools on which you have worked actually. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Open source video streaming
a) Gstreamer b) VLC c) DVgrab d) Kaltura --- Thanks. Have you personally worked on them; and which one would you recommend on Linux? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] An overview and comparison of Single Board Microcomputers
My favourite SBC CubieTruck from CubieBoard is not in the list. It can found at CubieTruck http://cubieboard.org/2013/10/30/cubieboard3-cubietruck-is-all-ready/ Debian on CubieBoard www.cubian.org - I don't see why this is off-topic at all; Baskar, have you purchased this kit; and were you able to boot Linux on it? What was the price in Indian Rupees? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
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Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
If anyone interested in doing this, kindly reply me offlist. Are you doing this seminar on behalf of ilugc or on behalf of your company? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Very good Task Management Website...
https://en.azendoo.com/ login with google lets enjoy with your Team.. This apparently has nothing to do with FOSS; it appears to be a proprietary product. We should not be talking about or promoting such products on this list. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
If I do the program in my own capacity, I would simply put the tag [Event Report] and post it in the list, without mentioning about 'on behalf of'. --- That is not the question I asked - about how you are going to post, after the seminar. For this particular workshop, you asked for others to contact you off-list, without mentioning whether this particular workshop is being planned on behalf of ilugc or your company. Like Thyagarajan said, your emails are not clear about your intentions. So my question again: Is this particular seminar conducted on behalf of ilugc or your company? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
The problem arises when we start assuming things. The original email is addressed to Mr. Baskar in his Linuxpert Systems mailing list; not the ilugc mailing list. So when Baskar asks for help, one would normally assume he wants help to conduct on behalf of LinuxPert Systems only, not this list. There is nothing wrong in doing this, but clarity was missing. Now, in Baskar's reply he says ...cannot be handled by me or by my company,...If anyone does, it will be 'on behalf of ILUG-C' only. See? Our assumption was wrong. Why this restriction for anybody else to conduct only on behalf of ilugc? On what basis is Baskar placing this restriction on others in this list? ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: I couldn't figure how it can be construed as his Linuxpert Systems mailing list I read the Subject of the included original email reply: Subject: Re: [LinuXpert Systems] Software Freedom Day celebration in College of Engineering, Guindy (Anna University Campus) -- So Baskar has forwarded an email from his company mailing list to ilugc mailing list; because he cannot service the request. Fair enough. But he is placing a restriction that others should contact him off-list; and can conduct only on behalf of ilugc, whatever that means. Who has given the right to Baskar to decide how others on this list should do workshops? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Request for seminar on 'Free tools in Software Engineering'
Dear Fellow Luggies; I can sense many people will feel I am the reason for Baskar unsubscribing from this list. So far in this thread I asked a direct question and got vague replies. Now that this reply from Baskar has been posted, I want to clarify. 3 months back, Baskar asked me if I could help him in a 2-day workshop. I agreed, and in my slides, I displayed my company logo to which Baskar objected, and said only his company logo should be displayed. I then removed my company logo for the rest of the workshop, and politely declined to involve in any further of his requests to help. So in this thread when Baskar asked for help, again I asked for clarity; and after 3 emails, it has emerged Baskar cannot do the program with his company; but he is still insisting others to do only on behalf of ilugc, whatever that means. The aim of ilugc is to spread the knowledge, awareness and use of FOSS. I will do this to the best of my ability, and largely I will be charging some money for these activities. I do not feel guilty about it, since Free in FOSS stands for Freedom, not Gratis. Instead of arguing, I am going to post about the potential, skills available; projects needed, opportunities etc. revolving around FOSS. If needed, I will put [Commercial] tag to all such posts to satisfy the pedants. The growth of FOSS is more important than petty arguments in a mailing list. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Should FOSS discourage Intel and embrace ARM?
In this post, I want to outline my thoughts regarding Intel processors ; and why the FOSS community ought to distance itself from Intel and move towards ARM processors. In my view, FOSS is more a philosophy, and a way of life, and applies to many other aspects than mere software. Since Intel is part of the Trusted Computing Group which governs the specification of the TCPA; I think it is safe to assume that Intel has implemented TCPA in all their recent product lines, such as Haswell an Atom. ARM Holdings licenses the technology to several dozens of manufacturers; leading to the tremendous innovations we have seen in mobile devices, SoCs; SBCs such as Raspberry Pi and BeagleBone; which are unheard of in the Intel or x86 world. When Linus Torvalds was approached for introducing changes in the kernel to parse binaries as part of secure boot process, he reacted violently, and in a series of mailing list postings; lucidly explained the true meaning of 'security' and 'trust'. A college in Coimbatore has implemented Linux in about 650 out of 700 PCs. But still they are all Intel PCs. Now that the Raspberry Pi is a fairly decent PC capable of running 'Linux'; it's only drawback is slow GUI performance. I have searched in vain for readily available low cost ARM PCs or Server systems, capable of running Linux (not Android). If any one has any links to share, it would be useful to the community. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html http://www.cs.umd.edu/~waa/TCPA/TCPA-goodnbad.html ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
The objectives are different for a user group mailing list and a project list. They are not the same. --- Is it the objective of ilugc mailing list to prevent members from talking about Commercial activities on the list? Nobody is answering this simple question; Free Software means Freedom not Free of Cost. Talking about commercial activities related to Free Software is not a crime on this list. Why is this so hard to understand? Is there a single among the 3000 members in this list not interested in earning money to support their livelihood? Even Richard Stallman receives money from the McArthur Foundation to support his other activities. So many many many people think it is a crime to talk about activities around Free Software that involve monetary gains - this is silly. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
Iff the company has given permission to the employee to use his/her official e-mail address, can he/she use the same. Otherwise, a different account needs to be used. Whether the individual is authorized to speak for the organization or not doesn't matter. Any e-mail sent through the official e-mail address can be used against the employee. --- The employees of IBM and RedHat are not secretly working on the Linux kernel; they are working in official capacity only. Likewise on this list, many members are working on FOSS products and services; sometimes gratis, sometimes charging money. Nobody needs to feel guilty for charging money for offering products and services based on FOSS. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
There have been cases where groups, and conferences (in India) have been hijacked for personal or commercial interests. I have not seen anybody hijacking this list for personal interests which are not based around Free Software. If anybody tries to do that on this list, we can simply ban them. But banning any post on a FOSS activity such as workshop; just because it is commercial does not make sense to me. But, this list is quite considerate to allow people to post with a 'Commercial' tag. Otherwise, it wouldn't have survived this long So, how one balances the number of voluntary and commercial posts is crucial, just as maintaining the signal-to-noise ratio. Very true. Which is why I suggested a FOSS-AD tag, and limiting such tagged posts to 5 per month. Totally banning such FOSS-related posts entirely is not a good idea, IMHO. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
Do we need a clearance to conduct an event, I think the co-ordinator should take a call, My opinion is , it is better to have one. My opinion is; On Behalf Of is a meaningless term. There is no need for any clearance since this meaningless term On Behalf Of can be removed. Without that meaningless term; anybody can post anything related to FOSS on this list. ILUGC members do not have any authority to clear or reject any FOSS related event by any member. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C
I want to make several points on this topic: 1. The Free in FOSS stands for Freedom or Sudhandhiram; not Free as in Gratis or Ilavasam. As long as any of the 3000 members of this list post their thoughts, and those postings are related to Freedom providing software; I or nobody should have any objection. I argued this point with the late Kenneth Gonsalvez; and he suggested to put a Commercial tag; which in my opinion is redundant and nonsensical. 2. The Linux kernel is jointly developed by entities such as RedHat, IBM etc. all of which are commercial public companies, that exist to provide gains to shareholders. The employees from the companies routinely post on the Linux Kernel mailing list. They do not add [Commercial] tag to each and every post. I don't see why our Linux User Group mailing list should be any different. 3. The fact that Baskar is a long-time member of this list is not relevant to this discussion; the fact that he is talking about Freedom providing software is the only relevant point. 4 All postings in this list should serve a purpose to be relevant; sending reports of workshops 10 times a month, serves no useful purpose in my opinion. Rather, it can be posted that a workshop was conducted on so and so topic; and so and so were the agenda and activities therein. If somebody can conduct workshop on some relevant topics; they can post their capability even if they do or do not conduct workshops. Provided that this is done on occasion; this need not be construed as advertising. Evangelism is also advertising, and advertising skills on Freedom Software; even at a price; should be acceptable and encouraged on this list. The thread on a Facebook page for this list is also to advertise the existence of this list and its members; so advertising FOSS capabilities on this list is not evil. 5. If required, we can insist on Ad tag for such threads; and have a policy restricting the number of Ad posts to say 5 or 10 per month. In my opinion the Ad tag is not required; but if some people strongly feel; it can be insisted. There is no shame on posting Ads; in fact; only because of the postings I came to know of some people and their skills. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Raspberry Pi Workshop at Hindustan University -
I thank Dr. Rameshkumar - Professor, IT Dept; of Hindustan University Dr. Nagarajan - HoD - IT Dept Dr. Jesudas, and Dean for the wonderful arrangements, and motivating the students. I will be putting up the course material with useful links and distributing shortly to all. The Raspberry Pi is truly a watershed event in computing; specially in promoting open source ideals. As a community, we should promote the use and adoption of ARM processor technology, and low power computing to the Colleges, Schools and Industry users as well. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] Hackathon in Coimbatore - 24th, 25th Aug 2013
KGISL in partnership with Thought Works is arranging a 2 day hackathon on 24th and 25th of this month, at KGISL Campus Coimbatore. Participation in the event is free. Primarily, we encourage open source and free software enthusiasts to enroll for and participate in the same. The suggested themes are: Frugal solutions for local needs Data liberation Open hardware solutions that leverage platforms like Raspberry Pi Registration link for event : http://www.thoughtworks.com/events/coimbatore-hackathon Thanks Sundaram KR Director - Technology k...@kggroup.com 94871 63035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] jQuery UI effects explanation
Meaning of anterior: You could've just said 'earlier' and saved us another of your inane posts; filled with your opinions. Opinions are like a**holes; everyone has one; and it is located in the posterior which is the opposite of anterior. Your's my friend, seems to be overstated; and you insist on using this forum to voice your opinions on Sanskrit, death and your boss. Leave us in peace. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] Some more jquery blurb
Girish Venkatachalam said: Stay away from LUG discussions. LUG culture is negative. It is only talking and not doing. Anybody who does anything useful in life is not a LUG member... Admins: Please ban or delete this user from this LUG. I find his posts an insult on our collective common sense. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
Re: [Ilugc] some more blurb on UNIX and Linux
Linux is different from UNIX but Linux is not a form of UNIX. It was derived from UNIX. What? I mean, what?? When you write something or say something, it is supposed to explain your views and thoughts. When a person reads the above 2 sentences, how are they supposed to interpret what you said? You are saying UNIX is an OS, and Linux is just a kernel.How can Linux be derived from Unix? it is not popular amongst the LUG community because most people in LUG are beginners. People who only know popular software. You have successfully insulted many on this list, and yourself as well, with a single statement. Congratulations! Maybe you post here to get responses, rather than to enlighten. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Need a Linux Tablet
In India, Archos tablets - some models they are giving Linux boot option if you ask specifically. Nobody else is giving support to Linux on tablet form factor devices, with support for all components including WiFi and camera etc. Thanks ...KRS From: ThiaguWinId thiaguwi...@gmail.com To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:56:17 PM Subject: [Ilugc] [OT] Need a Linux Tablet Kindly help me on the following I need a low cost Linux Tablet. Where to buy ? [ kindly avoid web search results as answers , I desired to have suitable solution from people with hands-on experience on Linux Tabs ] Thiagu ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Job] Wanted - Rails experts
has said that it will pay 8 thousand per month and in addition of 2 year BOND. This happened about couple of years back. Yes. But there was no intention or attempt to deceive. It was the truth. The candidate you sent ran away when asked to write a simple report using Ruby on Rails. So before pointing fingers at others on a mailing list, think about yourself and the quality of the students you produce. If you have any grievance, send email to concrened person directly, instead of making a fool of yourself on the list. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Job] Wanted - Rails experts
The candidate whom I was talking about is completed his 1 year at a company with 16 thousand per month, with 3 increments. Good to hear. But he was useless when he met me 2 years back. IMO it is better to say NO to the person than throwing a peanut offer,. I make an offer. The person can say NO, if he feels it is peanuts. I have got 2 better candidates who started at 8K and earning 22K and 26K now after 2 years. I have great respects for my students and they are good, needless to prove them in this floor. But your student did not prove himself in my interview. That is important, not this mailing list. 2 year with 8 thousand each month (for 24 months , with out increment) is not a offer which is worth to discuss. Okay, don't discuss. No compulsion from anybody if you want to keep quiet. No need to lecture about Corporate Social Responsibility for a fresher in a recession market. You must understand how difficult it is to be an employer in today's market, no point thinking only from employee point of view. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Job] Wanted - Rails experts
Thyagarajan wrote: I was sharing my experience., okay let is be irrelevant for now!! Thyagarajan, you claim to be a trainer, and you are a senior and longtime member of this list; yet you cannot understand that this mailing list is not the relevant place to share your experiences. Not only that, you have mentioned a very specific experience with a specific company as well. Not only irrelevant, but highly indecent of you, and even now you fail to understand or even apologise, or move on in silence. - So now I will share my unfortunate experience of interviewing one of your trainees. I asked him to write a simple report to demonstrate the coding skills he claimed in the resume. Your trainee ran away. I hope this experience is useful to anyone in this mailing list - before recruiting, please check the skills mentioned in the resume. Do not believe whatever is written. Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Job] Wanted - Rails experts
Thyagarajan wrote: If those information which I sought from the poster, is given, It will be a great help. -- Shrinivasan T was the poster, and he made clear the name of the contact person and company also. Please read the email carefully before posting: You can send your profiles to vinaykrsing...@gmail.com So the original poster has kindly given a contact email address for getting more information as well. Sensible thing to do is to contact that person directly off-list. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux
Here goes a small para on Linux; (a) Linux is an ' Operating System' (OS) that is non-propreitary and falls under the Open Source category(OSS). Corrections: Linux is a kernel. GNU is the operating system. GNU/Linux is an operating system. It falls under the Free software category, additionally it is also Open Source. This has spawned a variety of versions Corrections : Distributions is a better word to use than Versions. (c) It was originall y conceptualised by Mr Linus Travos Corrections: Written, and continues to be maintained, instead of just conceptualised. Torvalds is correct, not Travos. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Jobs] Needed urgently - full time OpenERP engineers
We are planning to immediately build a team of 5 OpenERP consultants. Ideally, the job would involve working out of our Coimbatore office, but we are open to people working from homes as well. Salary: 2 to 5 lakhs per annum, based on experience and performance. Those interested, please contact me off-list. Thanks ...KRS 9487163035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Best first language
Any better choices? A language which will be a foundation for her to explore and make better choices later and a language which is not imposing and is fun? For my son who is in ICSE school, they taught him Scratch and Alice when he was 7. Both these 'free' software packages are very good first languages for kids - they are fun, easy to learn and very powerful programming concepts can be taught. After 8 to 9 years, I have started with BASIC and he is fascinated by what he can do with that. Although many people say Python is better than BASIC I am not convinced. Indentation is not for kids. Simple GOTO constructs are far more powerful for learning. YMMV ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how irctc works
IRCTC is not designed for high loads. It does not scale well. I guess there is no proper infrastructure. --- Thank God the counters in the station use dumb terminals and Unix (?). If Railways had chosen to go with DOS or Windows for the counters, it would've been a huge catastrophe. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How net banking works
Okay some crypto now. Cryptography is the art and science of concealing information in such a manner as to defeat compromise. Very poor post, very little use for other members. It is full of anecdotes and jokes(?) but little technical content. Please avoid such posts. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Low cost Linux tablet
So, can I summarise like this: 1. There are no low cost tablets pre-loaded with Linux. 2. 'Some' Android tablets can be tinkered with and one can load Linux on them - Ex: Archos tablets. But these are expensive, so it does not answer the original question. - In which case, let me rephrase the question: 3. I see Zync, Wespro and other companies giving away low cost Android tablets with 10 display at Rs. 7,000/- to Rs. 8,000/- Can anyone help me load Linux on these devices, so that I can connect a keyboard and mouse and use it as a low cost laptop? Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Low cost Linux tablet
Archos tablets are famous for Linux Support, even though by default it's coming with Android. Any sources for these tablets from Indian distributors? Thanks ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ilugd] Private IP in Public Network
What is an m/c ? I don't get an answer for that from Google :-( m/c stands for a machine. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Hope] it interests somebody
Thanks for sharing. Nice to see Pramode CE of Thrissur, a member of ilugc and ilugcbe is featured in the video. Awesome 17 minutes spent. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] wanted - php and Python trainers
I would like to add that in my interactions with Thyagarajan, he comes across as being very opinionated and self-centred. These are not good traits in a community. If Thyagarajan wants to compete with ilugc, nobody is stopping him from doing so. All the contact details are given and he can get in touch with the users directly if his ideologu differs from ilugc. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Awesome story of migration to open source in a hospital at coimbatore
Hospital Management Software Maintained by Software Vendor ? is it running on ubuntu setup? is this open source software? if so, please let us know which one. Actually, I spoke to the doctor this afternoon and asked the same question. The software itself is based on java I believe, but it is now completely deployed on servers and clients running open source operating systems. The source code is however been provided, but under NDA, so it is not open source. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Job] Needed: Developers with experience in PHP and Android / J2ME
Hello: KG Information Systems Ltd., Coimbatore is seeking 5 to 6 engineers with 1 to 4 years of experience in PHP, HTML5 and / or Android and J2ME. The job is based in Coimbatore and involves customising existing open source projects and developing new ones in mobile technologies. Salary commensurate with experience and talents, and will match the best in the Industry. Job entails teaching students to acquire skills in these areas as well. Those interested may contact me off-list. Sundaram KR Director - Technology k...@kggroup.com +91 94871 63035 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] A short bio of Kenneth Gonsalves
We could possibly revive -- have another this year. I hope some college could come up to provide the base. It may be ideal if some Coimbatore college (e.g. Sri Ramakrishna) takes the lead. I will ensure that our college and Group KGISL and KITE College will provide the base. Kenneth came here twice for the inaugural meet of ilugcbe and subsequent meets. ...KRS 9487163 zero three five ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] setting up dual boot
First, partition your hard disk with your existing system. Crate the necessary file systems. Then, boot with the Mint CD or DVD and you should be able to complete the installation. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Blog on Apple Products
lawgon said: I would say that the post under consideration falls fairly under points 2 and 6 above and is not OT. Objection sustained. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] 3 days FDP program at AMS college
I have been doing FDPs countrwide for the past 6-7 years, and the total number of staff members who have actively or passively joined LUG lists is precisely 0. -- Did u threaten them or something? ;-) ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu powered Laptops and Desktops
kenneth wrote: as is fedora, suse, mandriva, debian, mint ... you just antagonised a good part of the LUG community Speak for yourself. Why should anyone get antagonised that someone is offering Ubuntu PCs. If you dont use it or like it, dont buy. No need to kick up some havoc on the mailing list with assumed intentions of others. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu powered Laptops and Desktops
@Kenneth - Which distro you use often? And why? Strangely enough, I recall Kenneth using Ubuntu :) ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
