Re: [Ilugc] help:suggest off line blog publishing software

[sankarshan]

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:17 PM, aadhil  wrote:
> i need off line blog publishing for ubuntu 9.4 it wold full futures compare
> to windows live writer and the software want to support blogger platform

I don't really know what Windows Live Writer provides as features
(and, it would help if you pointed to some URL/text about it), but how
about  ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 11 Leonidas Release Party @ Chennai

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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Aanjhan R  wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Rahul Sundaram
>  wrote:
>> If there is interest in organizing a activity day, there are a bunch of
>> things that can be done to encourage contributions including organizing
>> a packaging workshop/ documentation/ bug triaging etc.
>
> Like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD

and, 

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Re: [Ilugc] accounting software

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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM,  wrote:

> Is there a open source software available with respect to tally.

There has been a recent thread on the LUG-Bombay list about GNUKhata


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Re: [Ilugc] Brainstorm for OpenOffice

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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
> Friends.
>
> Today, had a discussion with MS Office Lovers to test OpenOffice.
>
> They had deep love over the UI and the fancy functions.
>
> They tried writer and spreadsheet.
>
> We compared with Word and excel 2007.
>
> Really, OO lacks in more usability points.
>
> We have to report it to the OO team.
>
> I wish that it will be nice if OO has a brainstorm site so that
> users can report their wishes and ideas.
>
> How to make this happen?

 and,

are possible starting points. With the Indic Regional Group now in
place, you could possibly follow up on
 too.

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Re: [Ilugc] NASSCOM trying to ruin Open standards adoption?

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On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Arun SAG wrote:
> It seems to be, one of the  microsoft's puppet is trying to ruin the open
> standards (ODF) adoption in india, by trying to *adjust* the draft in last
> minute.
> For those who believes in open standards, freedom are urged  <
> http://techfandu.blogspot.com/2009/07/urgent-action-needed-foss-india.html>
> to send their reviews on  " *National Policy on Open Standards for
> e-Governance*" before the dead line 07 July 2009.
>
> More details about the last minute drama: <
> http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/07/last-minute-dramas-around-around-open.html

It appears that NASSCOM did not engage in a conversation with the
industry before coming out with the statement. And, hence you'd notice
a lot of the industry participants within NASSCOM voicing their
concern.

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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] discussions on tamil translation

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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I could not find KBabel in Fedora 11 ;-). The good thing about launchpad is

Try <http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize> . There is Virtaal as well if
you like offline/desktop client based applications

> 1. it is online
> 2. anyone can translate as much as he feels like. And even if one does not
> feel like doing hard work, one can browse through various translations and
> just select the suggested strings and add them if they are appropriate, thus
> doing the basic work and leaving advanced strings to the experts.

Indeed. There are other online translation toolkits as well. Namely,
Transifex (with Lotte enabled) and, Pootle. Both are extensively used
in several high profile FOSS projects.

Both online and offline tools use elements of translation memory
(searching through file-stores and providing suggestions) fairly
accurately.


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Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] discussions on tamil translation

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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> will look at that - btw, since you are here could you tell me how to get tamil
> fonts to show in a java app on fedora 11. I have JOSM running but only get
> little boxen when typing tamil - although it shows up properly after upload. I
> presume it is a question of compiling the app with indic support? How does one
> do that with java?

I haven't tried doing that and, I have no idea (the limited knowledge
of java and i18n that I have just indicates that i18n has been one of
the strong points of java for a while) . I could ask around to see if
someone has pointers or, perhaps the JOSM developers could provide
some inputs if asked. The observation that it does show up properly
indicates that the storage of the input is happening correctly, as to
why the display/rendering within the application itself does not
happen is something I don't have an idea about.

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Re: [Ilugc] LaTeX

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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Asokan Pichai  wrote:
> I have a DVD distributed by CDEEP, IITB, that has a large collection
> of TeX/LaTeX installables and tutorials. Please mail me off-list if
> you are interested in getting a copy

Does CDEEP, IITB also host the DVD ISO somewhere ?


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Re: [Ilugc] LaTeX

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Asokan Pichai  wrote:
> You can write to CDEEP and ask them for the DVD. I am trying to
> circulate a local copy.

Would it be possible for you to share off-list perhaps, a contact to
whom I should write ? An email address, preferably, would be most
helpful.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ANN] tamil fonts

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> hi,
>
> as you may know development of open source tamil fonts has been going on at
> NRC-FOSS AU. They have now decided to make the process of development also
> open. The work may be seen here:
>
> http://bitbucket.org/malathisuji/nrcfoss-au-tamil-computing-activities/
>
> all are welcome to contribute

An aspect of font development that would be most welcome is the
addition of font test cases. I would exhort that this area be also
looked into when developing and releasing fonts. Building up a
comprehensive test case suite for fonts is required at this stage.


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Re: [Ilugc] [ANN] tamil fonts

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 11:50:53 am sankarshan wrote:
>> > http://bitbucket.org/malathisuji/nrcfoss-au-tamil-computing-activities/
>> >
>> > all are welcome to contribute
>>
>> An aspect of font development that would be most welcome is the
>> addition of font test cases. I would exhort that this area be also
>> looked into when developing and releasing fonts. Building up a
>> comprehensive test case suite for fonts is required at this stage.
>>
>
> could you file a ticket, with some details of what they have to do?

Can you please point me to the URL to the ticket-tracking bits ?

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Re: [Ilugc] gnome and projectors.

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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Monday 22 Mar 2010 4:18:09 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> I have an acer aspire 4720z. This has fn+f6 hot key that displays either
>>  only  projector, both laptop and projector and only laptop. This works
>>  perfectly in kde. In gnome on the other hand, Everything appears on the
>>  projector screen, but on the laptop only the top bar and bottom bar are
>>  available. The rest of the screen is blank. The hot key has no effect. Any
>>  clues?
>>
>
> forgot to add that this is fedora 11.

Can you check if you have gnome-display-properties available as a
command to run which pops up the multiple screen configuration GUI ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Query on CentOS

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On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Gowriishankar Raju
 wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I have installed CentOS 5.4v in my pc. ( Along with Windows XP - Dual Boot )
> After installation i cant access internet, even an ethernet card is
> available.
> I dont know to do to make internet connection.(Same problem i had faced
> while i installed RedHat)
> Please give me suggestions to overcome this problem.
> Waiting for your valuable reply.

Does the installed Operating System see your network card ? What does
a lspci -vv say ?

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Re: [Ilugc] SchoolOS beta1 - Available for Download

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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Ravi Jaya  wrote:

> I feel its kind of Ubuntu remastering with the Custom packages for the
> educational applications for various subjects.

It does have books pertaining to the curriculum if I understand it
correctly. Which is a good thing to have.

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Re: [Ilugc] (Shankari.ttf) Tamil Unicode Font with Tamil Numerals

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:36 AM, suji A  wrote:

> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tamilfontsteam/freetamilfonts/tamil-fonts/download/suji87.msc%40gmail.com-20100513050351-0qmttrawpyygik0x/shankari.ttf-20100513050320-v2circcmufuaqik4-1/Shankari.ttf

You'd need to consider a license for the font to enable it to be
packaged for distributions.

$ fontaine Shankari.ttf
{
"fonts":[
  {
"commonName":"Shankari",
"nativeName":"",
"subFamily":"Medium",
"style":"normal",
"weight":"normal",
"fixedWidth":"no",
"fixedSizes":"no",
"copyright":"Fonts are drawn by Shankari, Created by suji and
malathi with FontForge 2.0 (http://fontforge.sf.";,
"license":"Unknown or Proprietary License",
"glyphCount":"281",
"characterCount":"164",
"orthographies":[
  {
"commonName":"Basic Latin",
"nativeName":"Basic Latin",
"supportLevel":"full"
  },
  {
"commonName":"Tamil",
"nativeName":"தமிழ் அரிச்சுவடி ",
"supportLevel":"partial",
"percentCoverage":"97",
"missingValues":"U+0b82 (ஂ), U+0bd0 (ௐ)"
  }
]
  }
]}

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Re: [Ilugc] Request for non-native language speakers in any LUG's mailing list

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2010/7/16 ஆமாச்சு :

> We swear to do that, in case of Marati in ILUG Mumbai's list, Hindi in ILUGC
> Delhi's list, Telugu in case a Hyderabad list, Kannada in case of Bangalore
> list.

Marathi ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: Blog release from OLPC-India

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On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:

>  3.  This is my personal blog. This is not an official blog of OLPC India.
> I have expressed my own view and should not be considered as official
> statement from OLPC-India Or  OLPC.

The first line in your blog reads -

I (on behalf of OLPC-India) just want to give another proof where the
current system of Governance in India is NOT supporting OLPC.

: and that is somewhat orthogonal to point #3 above.


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Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan
 wrote:

>  As part of NRCFOSS project CDAC Chennai had brought out Bharat Operating
> System Solutions (BOSS),-- BOSS GNU/Linux -- derived from Debian with some
> add on packages such as Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, apart
> from a suitable version of grub installer.

Thanks for the note, would it be possible for you to provide the
specific URLs to the source code for the above 3 items  - the Bulk
Document Converter, Presentation Tool and, the grub ?


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Re: [Ilugc] remington keyboard for ubuntu

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

>  We are in search of remington key board to be used on Ubuntu. The key
>  board available in Ubuntu like scim and ibus does not have the same
>  layout like Microsoft office remington keyboard layout.In the
> Microsoft
>  office there are many remington keyboard types like CBI, SBI etc. any
> one
>  type is OK. But the default keyboard layout in Ubuntu as explained
> above
>  is not satisfactory for our hindi users.
>
>  Can you help?

If the layout that is expected is provided or, details provided, an
additional keyboard layout could perhaps be created. There is indeed a
proliferation of typewriter keyboard(s) which is what I think is meant
by "there are many remington keyboard types".

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Re: [Ilugc] alternative to poedit

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> will try it - and poedit is also stupid - it is supposed to learn as it
> goes, but fails miserably and gives moronic suggestions.

You can also have a look at virtaal
<http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/virtaal/index>. The team that
develops Pootle also develop virtaal among other translation tools and
widgets.


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Re: [Ilugc] alternative to poedit

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> am trying to use it right now - localize is not in the fedora repo. But
> my question remains unanswered - what do you people use?

Lokalize is probably supplied by the kdesdk package (yum whatprovides
*/lokalize) . Personally I use virtaal when doing offline or,
pootle/transifex when doing online.

<http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2009/08/19/tools-of-the-translation-trade/>
and, 
<http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2009/11/28/pleasant-experiences-and-project-loyalty/>
were two blogs I wrote around a year back on the various tools I tried
before settling down.


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Re: [Ilugc] Free/Open Source machine translation

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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
> Just now found a Free/Open Source machine translation tool.
>
> https://www.apertium.org
>
> Wikipedia started to use this.
> http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/01/12/wikipedia-expands-auto-translate-feature/
>
>
> Can anyone explore this and check the possibilities of adding tamil to this?

<http://www.ldcil.org/up/conferences/morph/presentations/CIIL-Paramesh-paper1%20[Compatibility%20Mode].pdf>
and further context (somewhat dated)
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.nlp.apertium/2368>


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Re: [Ilugc] Are Indian FOSS communities closed-source ?

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On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:41 PM, pavithran  wrote:
> Here are some points about community problems
> a. Factionalism
> b. Cabalism (or simply Cabals)
> As have been part of both parts do understand that both factions and
> cabals start with good intentions but sometimes later warp beyond
> recognition.
> Next he goes on to say
>
> c. No communication, Mis-communication
> d. Fragmented content with contradictory messages.
> The above two I have also seen time and again as a ‘feature’ of the
> Indian FOSS community at large where most communities in India don’t
> really communicate to other FOSS communities or world at large or are
> pretty bad at things.

At the time this post was originally circulated on a list I had
reached out to the author with a request to provide a set of examples
which illustrate the problems he perceives. The pair of instances
cited in the post [(a) no calendaring and (b) not enough developer
interest in defect reports] do not seem to add up to the specific
problems that are being drawn. In fact, it is egregious to pass off an
anecdote_of_one as a general perception.

The author has been a participant in various communities over a period
of time. And is well aware that the question of "calendar for FOSS
events" comes up in a cyclical manner. However, it is also somewhat
painfully obvious that no one has taken the time to publish a set of
requirements such a calendar/system would have. That single act (of
'product management') would have provided the jump-off point for
college students or, similar (recall that PLUG generally organizes the
monthly meetings at SICSR) to consider a prototype implementation.
Having said that, the author also chooses to ignore that across Pune
and other cities, the general purpose (user) groups viz. LUGs and like
are being supplanted by niche/specialized meetups. One can see this
trend in the increasing number of groups being lit up on services like
meetup.com. An oft quoted statement around the FOSS model of software
development is "scratch your own itch". I am somewhat bewildered that
the author has chosen to not consider putting the absence of a
calendar in that context and attempted to devise an understanding of
what it means in terms of a "maker approach".

Without specific example of "cabals", it would be somewhat difficult
to paint an entire generation/group of participants to be prolific
members of secret coteries. To the last point of "no communication" I
would put forward that this is an orthogonal comprehension of
community growth and the model around community formation. Communities
do not talk with communities, people do. And across India there are
enough examples of individuals (participants and contributors) who
work within the upstreams of their projects, laterally across projects
of their own interest and within their own community around the
geographical location.

This discussion can be of material interest only if there is enough
specific examples discussed (with names redacted, if required) and
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Re: [Ilugc] Are Indian FOSS communities closed-source ?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

es. At other instances you prefer a "for India"
implementation. LWN.net would not be averse to listing the events. It
requires actual people to do the listing. They do not happen by
sprinkling magic pixie dust in air. The catch is that there aren't
actual people willing to do this.

> I was not talking about the upstreams of projects, I was talking more of
> lateral integration as in getting more people in your community as well
> as talking to other communities per-se.

Please provide an example to demonstrate what is it that you see as a gap.

>
>> This discussion can be of material interest only if there is enough
>> specific examples discussed (with names redacted, if required) and
>> thereafter conclusions drawn.
>>
>
> I don't want to go there as this will just in-flame the issue more.

Then don't make statements which you don't want to back up with
citations. It would help in more ways than you can imagine.


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Re: [Ilugc] Question about. Fedora

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Sankara Mahadevan
 wrote:
>
> I have installed Fedora 22. Whenever I play audios and videos it throughs
> an error. The player not supported this files.
> I try to install players. But it has a same error. It tries from both GUI
> and command line , but seems error.
> I try to update the fedora 22. It also seems error .how I fix this issue.
> Please help with this.

Your original email does not provide much detail about the file types
which invoke the error as well as the player(s) you are using. I am
guessing <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems>
is the page you should read

<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/23/html/Installation_Guide/chap-preparing-for-installation.html#sect-preparing-upgrade-or-install>
provides some detail around the upgrade paths and methods.

Also, the <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/india> is
a mailing list to subscribe to if you'd like to participate in the
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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 9 (Sulphur) Released

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

Gowthaman Basuvaraj wrote:


the mirror list returned by
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os/
gives
ftp://mirror.wbut.ac.in/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os
as first mirror and is dead jigdo fails repeatedly...


Putting the admin of the WBUT mirror (which would be straining by now) 
in cc:


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Re: [Ilugc] resize / (ext3) with no LVM(2) - using fdisk and ext2online - possible?

[Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)]

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Balu manyam wrote:

| heh - good one on the parted - I havent tried that - and about the
resizing
| partitions on the fly

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-parted-resize-part.html
(URL might wrap around)

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Re: [Ilugc] which Linux distros are dying?

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Aditya M wrote:

| 2) Ubuntu now manages all its own packages. If debian shuts down (and
| I agree thats its rather unlikely), Ubuntu will manage. In any case,
| Ubuntu now contributes quite a lot back to the debian project.

When you use the term 'manage' what do you refer to ?

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Re: [Ilugc] which Linux distros are dying?

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| On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:14 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)"
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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|> Aditya M wrote:
|>
|> | 2) Ubuntu now manages all its own packages. If debian shuts down (and
|> | I agree thats its rather unlikely), Ubuntu will manage. In any case,
|> | Ubuntu now contributes quite a lot back to the debian project.
|>
|> When you use the term 'manage' what do you refer to ?
|>
|
| I mean that Ubuntu capable of holding its own, regardless of Debian
| disappearing all of a sudden.

Err... sorry I should have been more specific. The part where you say
"Ubuntu now manages all its own packages" is something that leapt out.
It would be nice if you could provide some explanation about that.




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Re: [Ilugc] which Linux distros are dying?

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Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:

| IIT appears to be moving towards Debian...The DCF of my department
(computer
| science) shifted all desktops from Suse to Debian Etch recently. My lab
| (RISE) shifted all desktops from RHEL/Fedora to Debian Lenny recently.

Would it be possible for you to share as to what were the factors that
went with RISE move from RHEL to Debian ?


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Re: [Ilugc] which Linux distros are dying?

[Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)]

Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:

> WHY I RECOMMEND DEBIAN:
>
> 1. It is not controlled by any company
> 2. Superior design (Ex: /usr/sbin/update-alternatives)
> 3. Stability (Ex: Used on the space shuttle mission STS-83)
> 4. APT
> 5. FAI (Fully Automatic Installation)
>

Santhosh Kumar J wrote:


First of all, our lab badly needed a revamp. Lots of systems just
weren't working and there were some three NIS domains( for 35-40
systems ), some ppl had account in just one domain and couldn't login
is some machines and so on.. The task of doing this revamp was given
to me. And i like debian :)  The fact that we had the debian
repository next building(IITM ftp) also helped. I setup a FAI(Fully
automatic installation) server and did all the client configurations
in that (I setup ldap for authentication, which reqd editing 4-5 files
on the clients). After that all the 40 machines installation happened
in some 3 hours without any intervention and the systems were ready
for use right away!


Thank you (both of you) for taking time to respond. You do bring up 
interesting points. Just another question - what RHEL were you running 
earlier ? ie what variant of RHEL ?



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Re: [Ilugc] Re: which Linux distros are dying?

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sriram wrote:

it is news to me that the server does not
| have latest content; server seems to have gone down now, i will have
to get
| someone to get it back up and see if there is any problem.

It would be nice to have the server up. With the IIT-M server in place,
it does make a significant difference to the mirror coverage in India.

~sankarshan



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Re: [Ilugc] Firefox 3 performance

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Arun Khan wrote:

Desktop: Ubuntu 8.04 (32bit)
Firefox: v3.0 (ubuntu package)

I have 10 tabs open in FF, in top it comes out with the highest CPU 
(avg. 29%) and mem (avg. 8.0%) usage.  This is not much different from 
what I was seeing in FF 2.0.


Others getting better numbers?


Someone on planet.mozilla.org blogs about FF3 performance (the name 
escapes me) - perhaps you can start off a mail trail with that person.


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Re: [Ilugc] Acer server problem

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indianathan n wrote:

|  In my office, Acer altos G540 Server was purchased. specification is,
| processor: Intel Dual-Core Xeon 5110 / 1.6 GHz, Dual-Core, 64 bit
computing,
| RAM: 1 GB, DDR II SDRAM, 1 x Serial Attached SCSI - integrated HHD.
|
| I tried to install RHEL4 for making Oracle Database server. but RHEL4 will
| not detect SCSI HHD.

Is this RHEL 4 base or updates ? In case it is anything above RHEL4
Update 3 please raise a support ticket with Red Hat.

Additionally, you may also want to check up hardware.redhat.com to see
if there are any special notes associated with this particular hardware
certification.


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Re: [Ilugc] Tool for analyzing SVN Log

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Thanigairajan murugan wrote:

> Is there any tool  for analyzing SVN Log  through Apache?
> (Like SARG which generates report of squidlog through Apache) 

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/avuori/projects/svnloganal/ worked for
whatever limited requirements i had

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Re: [Ilugc] kmail and mail merge

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Atanu Datta wrote:

> What about the mail merge feature in OOo?

Not the same thing, he is looking at something like
http://mailtweak.mozdev.org/ but for KMail.

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Re: [Ilugc] kmail and mail merge

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Atanu Datta wrote:
> 
>> What about the mail merge feature in OOo?
> 
> Not the same thing, he is looking at something like
> http://mailtweak.mozdev.org/ but for KMail.

Just to clarify - you can use OO.o Writer MailMerge to compose the
messages for a list of addresses and push it to an SMTP server directly,
but it doesn't allow personalization.


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Re: [Ilugc] multilingual terminals?

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varadarajan narayanan wrote:

> I use Ubuntu with SCIM (Smart Common Input Method package). SCIM supports
> many Indian languages and with a patch from CDAC you can use it for Open
> Office also. Of course you need to know the key mappings and there are
> phonetic system also (when you type
>  angrezee and it types अन्ग्रेज़ी ).

SCIM is supposed to work with OO.o out of the box in most distributions
(I haven't tested it with Ubuntu), is there a specific need that is met
by the patch ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd : Is Open Source Software a Race To Zero?

[sankarshan . mukhopadhyay]

sivaji j.g wrote:
> forward message from my friend .
> 
> 
> Is Open Source Software a Race To Zero?
> 
> gozunda writes "My company is an open source software
> vendor/developer. We maintain a popular open source project and keep
> ourselves afloat by producing commercial products derived from or
> extending the value of the core project. Over time we've seen our
> business model eroding as other open source projects produce free
> versions of the same extensions and utilities that are our bread and
> butter. 

Depends on how your friend sees 'software' and how it reflects as a line
item in the books of accounts.

A commonly (mis)used way to view software is as a commodity and hence
living in fear of the next competitor who undercuts your price is a
norm. With the passage of time, software bits would cease to have a
price and the business model around software would have to morph into
something that makes sense socially and economically while being
profitable enough to be sustaining a community. However, that would also
require some overloading of meaning to the term 'software'.

Software businesses based on loss leader model won't work out precisely
because software is not a commodity.

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Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

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ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:

> How would an Employee Agreement of a FOSS company differ from a
> Proprietary Company? While its total surrender of everything at
> Proprietary Companies for a monthly salary how are FOSS comapanies
> different in this regard?

Since it is a 'Company' it would include some of the stuff that is
standard fare. As regards the 'FOSS' part of it, it generally includes
clauses that mandate the release of components under appropriate FOSS
licenses.


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Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

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ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote:

> What would you say on talks and sessions organised by people around at
> various Conferences on "FOSS business models"? I was thinking those
> invited to talk at those sessions are such people who run business
> with FOSS. Shouldn't theirs be called a FOSS company? or is all of
> those a hype?

Diverging a bit from the thread, 'FOSS Business Model' is probably an
overloaded term. Interpretation range from discussions around doing
business with FOSS tools and services to doing business in a
collaborative fashion with artifacts of the business in the open (as
much as legally possible).

Running a business with FOSS does not make one a FOSS company
automagically. There are umpteen examples of such PSUs and private
enterprises in India who would not fit into a 'FOSS Company' tag.

Besides the socio-political bits (and hence the economic
interpretations) intrinsic to FOSS, a 'FOSS model' does base itself upon
 concepts like collaboration, adherence to open standards, communication
and so forth. Looking at FOSS companies primarily from the point of view
of employee agreements or NDA may be limiting the scope of comprehending
the actual model.

On a side note, take an example of a FOSS company developing a set of
tools and services for a deployment which has been tagged by the
appropriate authorities as 'secret' and hence nothing can be shared or,
re-used. Would that make such a deployment or, the developer or, the
consumer non FOSS ?


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Re: [Ilugc] NRC-FOSS Wiki Page Vandalized

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> it was vandalised and fixed also thanks to Koushik Narayanan - and I will
> disable anonymous editing when wikipedia does.

A small request is to periodically review the speaker list so as to
keep in updated.



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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:
> 2) As in any SDLC workflow (carried out in formal Software Engineering 
> practices),
> a) is there any well-defined documentation available at each stage of 
> project progress, so that
> those documentation would serve for future reference & revisiting 
> at any future point of time.
> b) by the term "documentation" i mean the documents of SRS, Design 
> Specification, Project Plan, Cost-Estimation, Execution 
> Plan, Contingency Plan and so like.
> c) so the point is, when such things get documented, the process by 
> itself would render a blue-print before
> hand the solution is implemented and for this same reason only 
> any formal Engineering level work
> is carried out in that way.

Say, something like : https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox ?

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Re: [Ilugc] is FOSS methodology structured ?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
 wrote:

> Fundamentally is FOSS development methodolgy analytically structured ?
> As we see, almost any FOSS s/w development activity is caried out in an adhoc 
> manner and most of the decisions are made out of human instincts.

http://opensource.mit.edu/online_papers.php?lim=1000 would be having
some papers that would be of help. The perception of 'ad-hoc' manner
and "development driven by gut instinct" points to a need to read up a
bit on the papers :)


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Re: [Ilugc] RE: Axis Bank webpage

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On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Parthan SR  wrote:

[snip]

> If the web designers keep KISS in mind and create web sites which are simple
> and clean, they can very well create things which work fairly well on most
> browsers (at least Firefox, Opera and Safari in addition to IE).

Not to mention being a11y nicer.

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Re: [Ilugc] VPN in FC10

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Ashish Verma  wrote:

>> Can you install NetworkManager-vpnc and check if you can add this VPN
>> connection using the .pcf file and the wizard within NetworkManager ?
>>
> NetworkManager-vpnc has been installed, however how do I load the .pcf file
> to it. There is no utility by that name.

If NetworkManager is running, then a left-click should allow you to do
VPN Connections -> Configure VPN and, thereon Add a configuration
file.


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Re: [Ilugc] VPN in FC10

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Ashish Verma  wrote:

> I want to make a connection from a FC10 machine to a vpn box. I currently
> connect to the box from a Windows Machine using "VPN Client" (this is the
> name of the software). However now since I want to do the same from FC
> machine, I installed pptp-client referring to the below:
>
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-ubuntu-fedora-linux-pptp-client.html
>
> Now I am unable to decide on what values go where. I got a .pcf file for
> windows with the following parameters:

Can you install NetworkManager-vpnc and check if you can add this VPN
connection using the .pcf file and the wizard within NetworkManager ?

By the way, it is Fedora10 and not FedoraCore/FC10 :)

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Re: [Ilugc] VPN in FC10

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ashish Verma
 wrote:

> I was able to load the pcf file. However, how do I start the communication
> to the vpn server. I mean in Windows, there is another device created for
> the VPN connection. How does it work here. How do I route traffic for the
> specific IP addresses to the VPN box.

Did you click on the VPN Connection as seen from the VPN Connections
and check if it asks you for details that will enable you to connect
to the vpn server ?




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Re: [Ilugc] Fate of MySQL, the fate of Open Source?

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ashok Gautham  wrote:

[snip]

> Also OpenOffice, JBoss, Java, Virtualbox, Glassfish and Netbeans are safe.

JBoss ?


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[Ilugc] [Cross-Posted] [Commercial] Quality Assurance Engineer openings at Red Hat, Pune

[sankarshan . mukhopadhyay]

The following Quality Assurance Engineer roles are in the process of 
being hired at Red Hat (Pune). Interested candidates may send in their 
resumes to careers-in at redhat dot com. Please mention the role in the 
subject line of the mail.


*Quality Assurance Engineer*

As a Quality Assurance Engineer you are expected to set the quality 
standards for a small product or, for a significant area of large 
product. You are expected to develop test cases and test plans for areas 
of ownership and, would be capable of directing the efforts of 3 to 4 
quality engineers. You should be able to effectively and accurately 
communicate testing status to management and other interested parties. 
You should be able to interface with customer and partner quality 
organizations and, can be relied on to exercise good judgment around 
critical issues. You should be able to work with developers to resolve 
issues and analyze data in a timely manner. You are expected to process 
in-depth understanding of the testing processes and standards. Primary 
focus is on API, WebUI, and client tool testing.


Job Requirements:

Test Automation and Development Job Requirements:

* Knowledge of how to use a defect tracking system (JIRA or 
Bugzilla preferred).
* Knowledge of how to use a revision control system (Git, 
Subversion,or CVS preferred).

* Good skills in at least three of: Java, Python, Perl, BASH, or Ruby.
* Previous experience with automated testing tools.
* Expertise in Selenium and/or JUnit a major plus.
* Demonstrated skills in Linux systems administration.
* Basic knowledge of database usage and ability to write SQL.

*JBoss Operations Network Quality Assurance Engineer*

JON Essential Duties and Responsibilities: As a Quality Assurance 
Engineer for JBoss Operations Network, you will be responsible for 
expanding our existing test automation framework, as well as evaluating 
and implementing new Open Source tools to verify the quality of the 
product. The job will have you working with an international team of 
Software Developers and fellow QA Engineers. Primary focus is on WebUI 
automation and agent testing. Will be responsible for writing test plans 
and test cases for assigned functional areas. Will then be responsible 
for running manual tests, writing automated tests, and running automated 
tests. Also responsible for writing, verifying, and closing bugs on each 
version of the product.


JON Job Requirements:

* Knowledge of how to use a defect tracking system (JIRA or 
Bugzilla preferred).
* Knowledge of how to use a revision control system (Subversion 
preferred).

* Ability to read and write Java code.
* Previous experience with automated testing tools.
* Expertise in Selenium a major plus.
* Demonstrated skills in Middleware and/or application servers.
* Basic knowledge of database usage and ability to write SQL.

*Satellite and Proxy Quality Assurance Engineer*

Satellite/Proxy Essential Duties and Responsibilities: As a Quality 
Assurance Engineer for the Red Hat Network Satellite and Proxy products, 
you will be responsible for expanding our existing test automation 
frameworks, as well as evaluating and implementing new Open Source tools 
to verify the quality of the product. The job will have you working with 
an international team of Software Developers and fellow QA Engineers. 
Primary focus is on API, WebUI, and client tool testing. Will be 
responsible for writing test plans and test cases for assigned 
functional areas. Will then be responsible for running manual tests, 
writing automated tests, and running automated tests. Also responsible 
for writing, verifying, and closing bugs on each version of the product.


Satellite/Proxy Job Requirements:

* Knowledge of how to use a defect tracking system (Bugzilla 
preferred).
* Knowledge of how to use a revision control system (Git, 
Subversion,or CVS preferred).

* Good skills in at least two of: Java, Python, Perl, BASH, or Ruby.
* Previous experience with automated testing tools.
* Expertise in Selenium and/or JUnit a major plus.
* Excellent skills in reading and writing technical documentation 
in English.

* Demonstrated skills in Linux systems administration.
* Basic knowledge of database usage and ability to write SQL.
* Basic previous experience in Solaris administration a plus.

*Test Automation and Development Quality Assurance Engineer*

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[OFF-TOPIC] Re: [Ilugc] [Final Year Project Idea] Creating a STL like library for C

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

[snip]

> Then of course you need to consider the fact that there is a cultural
> issue here.

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Re: [Ilugc] blocked websites - BSNL DNS

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ma Sivakumar  wrote:
> I have BSNL broadband and use 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8 as DNS servers. Face
> no problems as you describe.

You may not want to use 4.2.2.2 as your primary DNS

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Re: [Ilugc] blocked websites - BSNL DNS

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> 4.2.2.2 is the default secondary dns that bsnl provides - doesn't work.
> As for 8.8.8.x, rms would not approve.

There are ISPs other than BSNL who suggest the same. 4.2.2.2 is a good
one to "test" a DNS setup. But it wouldn't be a good idea to use it on
a regular basis given that it is most likely a feature for customers
of Level3.

There are other public DNS available and, if recalling them is an
issue, they can always be noted down using the cellphone or, any other
conventional method.

I've been a reasonably happy (registered) user of OpenDNS on one of my
routers and, of Google's DNS on another. I do run a nameserver
(djbdns) for myself but not when I am using connections like
Netconnect from Reliance or, Photon as they seem to dislike such bits.

Having said that, I am not a general user. My network access points
are fairly well defined and, are in most cases configured by me. By
which I mean that I don't need to face the name resolution issues
Kenneth mentions related to using computers when on the move.


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Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Dr. N.G.P. Institute of Technology, Coimbatore district

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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Baskar Selvaraj  wrote:

> Today, myself and Mr. Sivabalan setup a 60 seat FOSS lab in Dr. N.G.P.
> Institute of Technology, Coimbatore district, (http://www.drngpit.ac.in/)
> for the department of CSE.

I've read a lot of mails about the labs being set up at various
colleges and, I've wanted to know about what happens next ? Does there
exist a system by which the colleges keep track of how the labs are
being used or, report issues with the setup ?

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Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I have an extra monitor plugged into my laptop. Resolution in both are
> set to 1024X800. The laptop screen always has the correct resolution,
> but the external monitor (samtron 45BN) sometimes gives the correct
> resolution and sometimes is at 800X600 - any ideas about the cause and
> remedy? Fedora 12.

If you are using GNOME, would it be possible for you to use
gnome-display-properties to define the resolutions of the
monitors/display devices attached to your laptop ?


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Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above.
> The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it
> on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution.

I can say that I can reproduce the issue infrequently with my set up.
So far I haven't found the cause and I end up using the g-d-p to
reconfigure.


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Re: [Ilugc] Mentoring students for Projects

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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Aanjhan R  wrote:

> Reading through the suggestions, an idea that popped up was to deploy
> FSOC (Four Seasons of Code) [1] and register people as
> mentors/students. For a sample deployment one can check out the dgplug
> website [2].
>
> [1] https://github.com/shreyankg/fsoc
> [2] http://fsoc.dgplug.org/

Shakthi, who is on the list, had worked with Kushal to come up with a
preliminary set of tasks which would do two things : [1] gauge the
level of understanding of the student and, [2] allow a potential
mentor to begin a conversation with the student.

Setting preliminary tasks also help a bit in breaking the ice and
forming good habits. Along with the ability to think smartly the
capability to be able to think in steps, sequentially with tests for
each step is a big thing to coach.

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Re: [Ilugc] zimbra and exchange

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> a large company in Coimbatore recently migrated from microsoft
> outlook/exchange to zimbra. And within a month they migrated back. The
> top management is very much pro open source (their CMD attends LUG
> meetings). The reason for going back is
>
> 1. zimbra is too slow
> 2. search feature is missing - or does not cut it.

I am assuming that they have been using the Open Source edition of the
product <http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-collaboration-suite.html>

When they state that Zimbra is too slow, what do they mean - does the
application take time to parse mailstores ? They may need help in
sizing the hardware

It is a good idea to use a traditional mail client or, even the Zimbra
desktop edition with the Zimbra backend server


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Re: [Ilugc] zimbra and exchange

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

>> It is a good idea to use a traditional mail client or, even the Zimbra
>> desktop edition with the Zimbra backend server
>
> I do not understand this point

In basic terms, an installation of Zimbra will provide you with a
mailstore against which accounts can be configured and, a
calendaring/collaboration system.

Zimbra also provides a desktop client
<http://www.zimbra.com/products/desktop.html> that you can use with
the Zimbra installation (or, any other mail/collaboration server)

Using standard mail clients (mutt, alpine, Thunderbird, Evolution,
Sylpheed, Kmail etc) to access IMAP/POP accounts serviced by the
installation of a Zimbra server can work out faster in terms of
searching mails.


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Re: [Ilugc] zimbra and exchange

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> the MD of the company has 10 GB of stored mails - what about the point
> that database storage is faster searched than filesystem storage?

I have 28 GB of mails on which I receive faster results when I search
them locally using a mail client.

A mail client like Thunderbird for example will index the offline
emails. If you are looking at performance improvements (for which
there has to be performance data from previous and current system to
enable benchmarks) you are basically looking at hardware sizing,
filesystem tuning and handling of locks on the files.


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Re: [Ilugc] graphical view of postgresql database

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> can anyone suggest a neat tool for a graphical view of a postgresql
> database?

For schema and relationships you may want to try
<http://schemaspy.sourceforge.net/>


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Re: [Ilugc] graphical view of postgresql database

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 12:05 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
>> For schema and relationships you may want to try
>> <http://schemaspy.sourceforge.net/>
>
> it rocks - just what I wanted.

I am glad that you found the tool useful.

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Re: [Ilugc] xmind

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I want to install the xmind application in fedora. There are debs for
> ubuntu, but nothing in the fedora repo. Any clues? I also downloaded the
> source, but have not a clue how to install a java app. And there does
> not seem to be any documentation for the same.

Is there a specific reason you'd want to use XMind ? Fedora has Vym
and Freemind packaged.

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I am looking for a standards based open source document management
> system. The last time (in 2004) that I looked it was railroad vs dspace.
> What is recommended now? The criteria: uses an open source rdbms and is
> a genuinely open source application (not one with all the goodies in the
> closed version and a token 'community' version).

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems> is a
reasonably updated list of Content Management (and I realize that
you've specifically asked for Document Management) systems. The tables
show the licenses as well. The other option is to look at
<http://www.cmsmatrix.org/> and arrive at a reasonable set of choices.

While you specify two criteria - are there more ? For example,
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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> I *had* heard of these two sources, but why I asked on this list is for
> practical experiences - what are you people using and what is your
> experience

On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS - Wordpress,
Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc

> the more features the better - but these two are the main ones. The
> first because it makes it easier for other applications to talk to the
> system and the second because it ensures that the devels are working on
> the version we are using.

These are perfectly nice things to have since it would, which I
believe you are hinting at, allow you and the developers to build
applications around the base product.


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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

>> On any given day I access a myriad variety of CMS/DocMS - Wordpress,
>> Drupal, Jive/Clearspace, Trac, Mediawiki, Alfresco etc
>
> what does Redhat use for DMS?

There isn't a single answer to that question :) Hence I listed out all
the ones I end up accessing during the course of a day. The variety is
driven by differing requirements and needs of each deployment.

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Re: [Ilugc] document management system

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> does that mean that redhat does not have a centralised DMS? Or is it a
> bad idea for a company to have one?

To answer the second question first.

I think that the idea that a company should have a single set of
application stack is a good one. It enables and empowers the IT
department. However, the agility that is provided by a set of systems
within a variety is also something that teams benefit from. As long as
data is not kept within silos making it difficult to cross-talk,
variety could probably be encouraged.

The answer to the first part of the question, like I mentioned
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[Ilugc] [OT] Re: Linux Journal DVD -> 1994-2010

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:

> I was a subscriber right from it's inception.    I stopped subsribing
> because of the time delays plus cost for overseas delivery to India
> [1].

You could opt for the digital subscription. It does tend to put out
nice articles coupled with a few remaining columns which are better
than the norm. In a way I find it interesting to see how LJ has
managed to ensure some sanity in the age of
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[Ilugc] [Commercial] [Cross-posted] Sr. QE/ QE Team Lead position at Red Hat

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

The position is currently based out of Pune. Please send the CVs to
jeetendra at redhat dot com with "Sr. QE / QE Team Lead" in the
subject line.

Red Hat is seeking a QE team lead to join its QE organization. Red
Hat's QE group ensures the quality of Red Hat's products, by
performing comprehensive testing to the entire product features and
providing up-to-date, accurate and complete view on the product's
quality to R&D, product management and company executives.

Quality Assurance Engineers maintain close working relationships with
developers and architects and assist in developing high quality
features with the most complex and challenging issues.

Primary Responsibilities:

* Act as a subject matter expert in the design, implementation and
execution of tests in the various aspects of application compatibility
* Provide timely, complete and accurate testing status report
* Use available tools to investigate and troubleshoot issues.
* Accurately record issues found during tests, including
investigation, troubleshooting, & the resolution of issues
* Work closely with Red Hat's development engineering
* Manage a team of QE engineers, assigning tasks, monitoring
progress, resolving bottlenecks, collecting status and raising issues.
* Mentoring new team members,servicing as technical knowledge
focal point for the team.

Required Skills & Experience:

* University degree, Computer Science or equivalent work experience.
* Minimum 5 years of related experience
* Experience in building testing frameworks and in test automation.
* Scripting experience in languages like Perl, shell, and Python
* Strong operating system knowledge - Unix/Linux
* Programming skills in C and Java are a major plus
* Exposure to POSIX and LSB testing frameworks are a major plus
* Strong inter-personal communication skills

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Re: [Ilugc] Redhat Vs Suse

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:27 PM, narendra babu  wrote:

> Could you please let me know what are the major differences on the 
> application tools and admin side, pkg management , ease of installation , 
> patch management  support and maintenance for RHEL and SUSE .

If you are looking to deploy either of the platforms you should
perhaps be looking at certified hardware, certified software and so
forth.

<http://www.redhat.com/support/> and,
<https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/>
<http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/> are the URLs that are start off
points in understanding support and maintenance.

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Re: [Ilugc] Kohacon Registration page - Co-presenter anybody?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
 wrote:

> Please note that there are participants from at least 14 countries
> apart from India that too within few weeks of announcement.
>
> http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11/schedConf/registration

The site seems to be a bit difficult to navigate - what are the dates
for the conference ?

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Re: [Ilugc] Kohacon Registration page - Co-presenter anybody?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
 wrote:

> Timeline of Koha conference:
> http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11/schedConf/timeline

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Re: [Ilugc] Syllabus for 1 month = 25x5 = 125 Hour Training on Introduction to FOSS and Open Technology

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:

> Please comment on syllabus.. What should be done for 1 month training of
> Engineering students..
> I am thinking to start a training batch from 1st June so creating syllabus
> collaboratively will help us all.

I don't see the lessons being linked with a project as an exercise. Is
that something you'll be considering during your training ?

For example, at the end of the following section, how do they learn to
apply what they learn on actual stuff ? Kenneth and NRCFOSS had some
ideas around it, I guess this is as good a list as any to ask about
that.

== Code ==
How to compile and Debug C++ programs using, gcc and eclipse. How to use
makefile.
Introduction to jQuery, day 1
Introduction to XML, How to use XML in jQuery, python.
Introduction to jQuery, day 2
Install Drupal and customising , adding themes..
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Re: [Ilugc] Creating live graphs for system parameters

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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Rajapandi  wrote:

> I want to implement a web page (namely dashboard) which includes
> various parameters (CPU usage, Network usage, Memory usage, etc ) from
> different systems and those parameters will be shown in graphs in the
> web page at server side. This will be like system
> monitoring graphs. So i need to fetch the informations from different
> systems and then have to show them in graphs.

If your end objective is achieving something like
<http://munin.sugarlabs.org/index.html>, you could perhaps try out
munin.


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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [ilugd] [commercial] Quotes required

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Shrinivasan T  wrote:

>   1. Upgrading charge Joomla 1.0 to 1.6
>   2. Charge of AMC for per year(may include upgrading Joomla versions)
>   3. Migration charges for current Joomla 1.0 to Drupal current version
>   including AMC for one year.

This is a strange way to call for commercial vendors. Especially since
the points, in sequence, are completely off. And, if there is indeed a
migration planned, the parameters, SLA etc go un-mentioned.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Low battery power management problem in Laptop

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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Yogesh  wrote:

> Here are my power settings while on battery:
>
> * Never put computer to sleep
> * When battery is low, hibernate.
> * When lid is closed, suspend.
>
> Is this a Gnome problem or an Ubuntu problem? Any clues??

While it may not be the direct solution to your problem, can you try
and install powertop <http://lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/> (should
be available as an Ubuntu package) and check what are the tunables
that seem to be causing battery drain. ?

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Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says "No" to Linux - issues new tender

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Raman.P  wrote:
>
> Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has 
> clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think 
> all of us should be happy.

<http://www.thehindu.com/education/issues/article2423376.ece>


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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Tablet suggestion

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Mehul Ved  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Raman.P  wrote:
>> Dear luggies
>>
>> I am doing some serious studies in Archeology,history and temple 
>> architecture. I have to read books/articles which runs to about 1 lakh pages 
>> - in standard format like pdf, html and text. I seek your opinion on 
>> appropriate tablet/e-book reader. My needs are
>
> Kindle is what best fits the above requirements.

Not if the PDF is the most read format or, the books have lots of
images. And, would the documents/articles have Indic ?

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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM, diksha gupta
 wrote:
> HP has rolled out ultra-low-power servers designed for large Web
> applications, search engines, and social networking firms. The project is
> termed as Project Moonshot. These tiny servers from HP make use of cell
> phone-type components in a server architecture. The company claims that
> they consume 89 per cent less power than conventional servers. The servers
> will run only Canonical and Red Hat Linux, and not Windows.
>
> http://www.efytimes.com/e1/72443/fullnews.htm

"Red Hat Linux" was discontinued around 2004. EFYTimes might like to
get the proper distribution names. For example, I assume that the
article meant Ubuntu and not Canonical.


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Re: [Ilugc] Need Advice, Linux/FOSS Gurus from India

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On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
 wrote:

> Linus' interview made me think if there really is lack of Linux gurus?

The guru shishya mode of teaching worked out when the materials to
learn were scarce and it was politically volatile to have them spread.
Now, Linux or, any FOSS structure mandates collaboration and sharing.
Shouldn't you be looking away from the single "guru" idea ? As it
stands, available source code+documentation+IRC+UGs etc do make it
easier for a willing participant to acquire knowledge and demonstrate
enough caliber to be known as an expert/architect/name_what_you_want.

(I know this is OT, but just wanted to point out the down side of
fixating on gurus rather than working on a larger group of talented
individuals)

> So, I am thinking of a sub-section in Muktware where we profile/feature
> one Linux/FOSS expert from India every week.
>
> What's your opinion?

You will run into the age old squabble of "how do you arrive at who is
an expert"


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Re: [Ilugc] Need Advice, Linux/FOSS Gurus from India

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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
 wrote:

> Ts'o to me is a filesystem expert/ Greg a device driver expert. I thinks
> let's start. There is no end to things stopping us from trying something.

It is fine if you put it that way. However, in your original post you
mentioned :

"So, I am thinking of a sub-section in Muktware where we profile/feature
one Linux/FOSS expert *from India* every week."

(the emphasis added is mine and is absent in the original)

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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora Sanskrit Locale

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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

> Does anybody know how to get sa_IN (Sanskrit) locale support in Fedora .
> I got hyphenation etc .. but sa_IN locale file is not there .
> Is there any locale information available for Sanskrit.

<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria> should be
a page to start with.

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Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Senthil Nathan  wrote:

> They have a section for technical architecture here.
>
> http://uidai.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=153&Itemid=13
>
> We can request them to publish another diagram with product and vendor
> label for each component.

The section on the tender(s) is the one where reading time could be
spent. 
<http://www.uidai.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=144&Itemid=162>

A search for "UID RFP" should also provide links to the multi-volume
PDF document providing architecture details, message protocols and so
forth.

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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora Sanskrit Locale

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:04 PM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

> I think Sanskrit is qualified as per the documentation given above.
> When I tried to install sa_IN locale in Ubuntu (10.04) it is there .



> But it is not there in Fedora

The folks who work on i18n for Fedora have a channel (#fedora-i18n I
think) and a mailing list. I'd request you to pop the query on those.


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Re: [Ilugc] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
 wrote:

> I contacted most of the executive on the contact list before filing the
> story; none replied. Indian Babus are above the law and they don't have
> time from accepting bribes that they will reply to journalists mails.

To take nothing away from the effort you are putting in but can we
tone down the gross generalizations and unsubtle ad-hominems please ?
A few officers and bureaucrats do not make a government and for
someone who wants to publish things generalizations are a bit of a
stretch.

This isn't specific to you, I've noticed this from the recent posts
here as well as on the Mumbai LUG lists.

> I will continue to cover the story in Muktware. I am happy that after TN
> case this is our second imp story.



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Re: [Ilugc] Hi Arun! I need to know where can I get Fedora 8 dump

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Pradheep Kumar
 wrote:

> I am working with a software SESC which works on Fedora 8. I need to know
> from where can I get Fedora 8 dump.

Hmm... that's a very bad scenario you are going into.

<http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/>
for reference.


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Re: [Ilugc] FOSS for Organization chart

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:19 PM, freeos  wrote:

>   Is there any FOSS to prepare organization chart? I checked many
> softwares. But all are having 30 days trial.

Isn't any svg editor good enough ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Phonetic Typing in Fedora

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Arun SAG  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Dwaraka Nath  wrote:

>> >Where am I missing out ?
>>
>>
> What about ibus-m17n and some tamil fonts?

Can I request that a bug be filed or, a discussion be done on the
#fedora-i18n channel ? Ask Fedora is another option.

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Re: [Ilugc] About GPL Licensing on a plugin

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:50 AM, David  wrote:

> I just have a question on GPL Licensing. We are planning to develop a product 
> which will be used to control multiple wordpress sites (Like updating, 
> installing, posting) across multiple wordpress sites at once. But we found 
> that there is already a service (SaaS) doing that. They install a plugin on 
> the required wordpress sites and that plugin is used to do all the process. 
> They control that plugin from their panel. That plugin is released under GPL 
> license (since its a wordpress plugin).
>
> We feel we can add more improvements to that product. My question is can we 
> use that plugin for our own SaaS service? Would that be legally fine?

Would you like to ask the question at
<http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss>
? More information at <http://www.opensource.org/lists>

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Source code for "Leave"

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh
 wrote:

> One of my friend read the Kaniyam -2 magazine and tried the Leave command,
> which will make a alarm to indicate in terminal that its time to leave.
> This package is only available for Ubuntu, i hope.
>
> When i tried to search via yum in fedora 16 i could not find that package,
> so now am in need of source of it so that i could compile myself and
> install it.

<https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/leave> If you are packaging it,
it would be nice to have it Fedora. I'm sure someone would be able to
point you towards how to get it packaged, reviewed and available from
the repos.

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Re: [Ilugc] Lecture capture software in Linux...

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Sundaram Ramachandran
 wrote:
> Is there any decent lecture capture software in Linux? I am teaching some 
> subjects - Microprocessors, Open Source Tools and Components etc. I want to 
> prepare video lectures incorporating ppt slides, class notes, questions, and 
> of course my own audio and if possible, a small video of my face as well.

Would <http://www.kaltura.org/> meet your requirements ?


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Re: [Ilugc] Lecture capture software in Linux...

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
 wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Sundaram Ramachandran
>  wrote:
>> Is there any decent lecture capture software in Linux? I am teaching some 
>> subjects - Microprocessors, Open Source Tools and Components etc. I want to 
>> prepare video lectures incorporating ppt slides, class notes, questions, and 
>> of course my own audio and if possible, a small video of my face as well.
>
> Would <http://www.kaltura.org/> meet your requirements ?

Also, do take a look at <http://www.bigbluebutton.org/> as well.


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Re: [Ilugc] Lecture capture software in Linux...

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Sundaram Ramachandran
 wrote:

> I will,  thanks. However, I would prefer to get some  recommendations from 
> people who have actually used the tools to create a lecture. It is a fairly 
> complex requirement and use case scenario.

You could get in touch with the Pune LUG folks or,
<http://www.sudhanwa.com/>. <http://bprim.org/> have used
bigbluebutton for a while.


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Re: [Ilugc] Help with GUI for project work required!

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On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, benedict nicholas
 wrote:

> Some of our  B.E students are doing project on Network monitoring in fedora 
> 16. They have done most of the coding using shell script and python. They 
> want to put  GUI and have asked for my help. I request you all to suggest 
> suitable solution.

A bit tangential to your query but if a non-GUI/CLI version is
available for use and functional, it would be a nice idea to package
it and make available via the repositories.

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Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review

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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Kumaran R  wrote:

>     On the whole the laptop doesn't feel cheap. Its light in weight
> thanks to the absence of a DVD drive and Wifi. The keyboard is not
> upto Lenovo standards, but it is still much better than most laptop
> keyboards. I'm typing this email in this keyboard, and it offers good
> feedback.. The display is a 14" 1366x768. It has good brightness but
> poor viewing angles and lots of glare, thanks to the glossy finish.
> The lack of wifi is a huge disappointment. The battery lasted just
> under 3 hours (2:58) while doing light web-browsing and playing music
> (max. brightness and max. volume). Overall, the design is good with a
> good textured feel. It feels solid to hold, and doesn't have lots of
> flex.

Do use powertop to see if you can configure some of the tunables.

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Re: [Ilugc] shows how popular ilug is

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:

> please see the footer on this page
>
> http://www.linux.ie/index.php

Do you mean the link to <http://www.ilug-cal.org/> ? Indranil (cc: ed)
can perhaps clarify.


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] general advice

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

[snip]

> Unfortunately this problem seems very characteristic of LUG since it
> is not endemic.

[snip]

Well written if a bit emotional. However you do injustice to the LUG
if you limit the attitude to the LUG and perhaps this specific LUG
(because of your experience) :)


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Re: [Ilugc] IDEs for PHP

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Vinodh Rajan  wrote:

> Currently, I am using Eclipse as the IDE for PHP. Its Works good AFAIK
>
> Are there any other good IDEs for PHP, which I can give a try ?

Although not specifically aimed for PHP, you could give geany a try.


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Re: [Ilugc] PG Diploma in Language Technology and Localization [Commercial][OT][X]

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JAGANADH G  wrote:

> STDC training division of CDAC Trivandrum is conducting one year PG Diploma
> Course in Localization and Language Technology .
> Anybody who is interested can contact
> Course Co-ordinator
> STDC
> C-DAC Vellayambalam
> Trivandrum - 33
> PH - +91 471 272 6531

Are there more details about the course viz. eligibility, fees
structure, course content that are available online ?

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Re: [Ilugc] Open source and business

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Arun Venkataswamy  wrote:

> Has anybody in this list or people you know - have made money by creating
> open source products? I am not talking about people who earn money by
> providing services around someone else's effort of creating the primary,
> core product (say the LAMP stack).

A significant part of the 'open source' is the concept of "open a
restaurant but give away the menu". In effect, the availability of the
source code of the product enables two distinct streams of revenue -
feature driven and support/services driven. And, in either case you
are helping to increase the share of the product.


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