[Ilugc] RE: ILUG - Coimbatore

[பத்மநாதன்]

> hi ,
> i like the work of u guys towards open source by forming ILUG-Chennai. i
wish itwould be nice if there exists such a group in coimbatore too . me and
my friends are very much excited to have such group in our city . If such a
community doesnt exist in coimbatore we invite all linux users and
volunteers to start one

Already few peoples ( Kenneth, Jeganath, Naveen, Ramkumar etc) are also
interested to form ILUG-Coimbatore. But we need enough strength. Amachu
assured for mailing list too.


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[Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Anirudh Ranganath]

Kenneth Gonsalves  writes:

> 
> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 14:02 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote:
> > > cbe-linux exists on yahoogroups. This group has a steadily
> > increasing
> > > list of subscribers and occasional chatter. Unfortunately I have not
> > > seen anyone located physically in and around the area on the list,
> > so
> > > there are no regular meets.
> > >
> > If enough people are there and any body willing to give some space we
> > can
> > have mmonthly meeting 
> 
> +1


Hey 
I'm ganesh's friend Anirudh. We have a blogger page 
http://ilugcbe.blogspot.com. 
I'm going to create a web page and mailing list for us. There is a small 
mailing 
list we created using google friend connect but I'm not sure if it is 
sufficient. 

We have spoken to Aadhinaryanan Sir and there is an active foss club in our 
college, but we want to expand our horizons to the entire city. Ganesh and I 
will again meet him on Wednesday and ask if Amrita can be the backbone of the 
club and host the web infrastructure.

We also need suggestions for a meeting place. 

Im planning on a website, domain etc, and I have contacted balu at ilugc for 
the 
same. 

Anirudh R


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[Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Anirudh Ranganath]

Hey, 

Posted a message to the mailing list 2 days back, but for some reason, it didnt 
reach the mailing list. 

Heres the message:
Guys, 

Coming back to topic, Ganessh(FOSS club representative) and I went and met the 
CS
dept HOD who was receptive to this idea. For mail server infrastructure, we 
went 
and met the ICTS department, which manages computing infrastructure. They said 
they will get back to us after reviewing security concerns and feasibility.

As far as naming goes, i personally vouch for ilugcbe, but if a majority of 
contributors from Coimbatore want GLUG, we can review it. Valid arguments
for and against GNU/LINUX are given in many websites including wikipedia and 
gnu's 
website. However, i am personally neutral.

One question from me is that Android is uses linux kernel, but is not GNU. Nor 
is it 100% free. Are Android users/programmers a part of LUGs? What about 
Maemo/Meego? 

Also, I would like to stick to the naming convention we follow and try to make 
it
less complicated to newcomers. 

Anirudh Ranganath
Amrita University - Coimbatore



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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[prasath s]

Hi all,
  can anyone send coimbatore user group mailing list link...

On 10/5/10, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 18:15 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mr .Ramam  and Kenneth
>
> I am arranging a preliminary meeting on saturday - please come
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:08 PM, prasath s wrote:

> Hi all,
>  can anyone send coimbatore user group mailing list link...
>
> On 10/5/10, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 18:15 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Mr .Ramam  and Kenneth
> >
> > I am arranging a preliminary meeting on saturday - please come
> > --
> > regards
> > KG
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hi guys
i am really sorry . I had exams all these days so couldn't be active for the
past few days
So whats going on in our LUG . i cant see anyone in out irc channel
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:08 +0530, prasath s wrote:
> can anyone send coimbatore user group mailing list link...

1. please do not top post
2. ilug...@googlegroups.com
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 21:15 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> i am really sorry . I had exams all these days so couldn't be active
> for the
> past few days
> So whats going on in our LUG . i cant see anyone in out irc channel 

1. do not bottom post
2. which lug are you talking about

if ilugc
   3. do not recycle threads
endif
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 21:15 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> > i am really sorry . I had exams all these days so couldn't be active
> > for the
> > past few days
> > So whats going on in our LUG . i cant see anyone in out irc channel
>
> 1. do not bottom post
> 2. which lug are you talking about
>
> if ilugc
>   3. do not recycle threads
> endif
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 19:06 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> LUG-CBE

ilug...@googlegroups.com

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

Mr.Kenneth whats the problem with you . First you said do not top post .
Then you are
asking to avoid bottom post . So Where should we post ?

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 19:06 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> > LUG-CBE
>
> ilug...@googlegroups.com
>
> please avoid bottom posting
> --
> regards
> KG
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:07 PM, ganessh kumar rp
wrote:

> Mr.Kenneth whats the problem with you . First you said do not top post .
> Then you are
> asking to avoid bottom post . So Where should we post ?
>
>
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 19:06 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
>> > LUG-CBE
>>
>> ilug...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> please avoid bottom posting
>> --
>> regards
>> KG
>> http://lawgon.livejournal.com
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> http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-November/052634.html
have a look at the guidelines. They suggest bottom post. you better
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Raja Subramanian]

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM, ganessh kumar rp
 wrote:
> http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-November/052634.html
> have a look at the guidelines. They suggest bottom post. you better
> follow that .

The preferred quoting/posting style on this list is interleaved
posting.  It means that your reply is woven with the previous
post wherever appropriate, and not just bunching your entire
reply in the top or bottom.  It's also recommended that you
trim unwanted lines from your quote and use correct attribution.

Please read the Posting Style Wikipedia article fully, especially
the Interleaved Style, Attribution lines, and Trimming section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:07 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> Mr.Kenneth whats the problem with you .

there is no problem with me - the problem is with you.
>  First you said do not top post .
> Then you are
> asking to avoid bottom post . So Where should we post ? 

1. do not top post
2. do not bottom post
3. read the list guidelines to find out how to post
4. this may help:

http://ilugc.org.in/reportfull/5/
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:09 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-November/052634.html
> have a look at the guidelines. They suggest bottom post. you better
> follow that . 

the guideline is wrong on that point - I have repeatedly pointed this
out to the people who wrote that and who send it every month. The
correct method of posting is 'interleaved posting' and not bottom
posting. @shakthi+Srini - this has been there for several years and it
is misleading. Kindly remove the words 'bottom post'.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

1. do not top post
2. do not bottom post
Last but  not the least ..
3. Any one other than the person who framed the law - Please dont post:))
This is called as democracy , One person Dictates and all others listen to it 
...
> the guideline is wrong on that point
Or am i wrong in naming it ?
According to stringent LAW which is posted in 
http://ilugc.org.in/reportfull/5/
*Posted by: lawgon( not by a unanimous decision)  Dated: Sat 15 Aug 2009 *
Quote unquote : * I do not believe in interleaved posting - I want to top post, 
why stop me?We dont care what you believe. If you join the list, you *must* 
follow the list rules - or get them changed. You may believe that driving on 
the right side of the road is fine, but the rule says to drive on the left, so 
do it or leave the list. * I want the rules  to be democratized and not 
dictated to me  . According to the clause I want them   changed .I request the 
members to have a democratic debate on this and not allow autocratic or a 
dictator to rule over our thoughts and take away our freedom . Because , again 
quoting from http://ilugc.org.in/reportfull/5/Indian Linux Users Group - 
ChennaiFreedom Matters.My point here is when people top/bottom post please 
don't bring their morale down  them publicly .This would mount to flare mail 
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
| The
| correct method of posting is 'interleaved posting' and not bottom
| posting. @shakthi+Srini - this has been there for several years and it
| is misleading.
\--

I am not a moderator for this group. I had updated my presentation [1]
quite some time back to reflect the interleaved, trimmed posting. You
are welcome to refer it when needed.

SK

[1] Mailing list guidelines.
http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads.html#mailing-list-guidelines

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi Sibi,

I find difficult in reading your reply, Kindly consider to the interleaved
posting mechanism and  trimming unwanted lines out.
I think, interleaved posting makes life comfort for the readers.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

Hello Thyagarajan Shanmugham ,
That was an entirely new post. Just 2 lines were from the previous mail . 
I am fully supportive in case of interleaved posting . 
But when  some one new does a top or bottom posting why we need to be so harsh 
to him ?
That was my point over there .
Not being harsh isn't a strict rule written any where but a basic human nature .
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Yuva raj]

But when  some one new does a top or bottom posting why we need to be so
> harsh to him ?
> That was my point over there .
> Not being harsh isn't a strict rule written any where but a basic human
> nature .
>
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:03 +0530, sibi raj wrote:
> This is called as democracy , One person Dictates and all others
> listen to it ...

who is this one person who has dictated this? (it is not me as I only
joined this group in 2005 and the rules were already there). Let us find
this bad fellow and kick him out.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:53 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> --- On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>  wrote:
> | The
> | correct method of posting is 'interleaved posting' and not bottom
> | posting. @shakthi+Srini - this has been there for several years and
> it
> | is misleading.
> \--
> 
> I am not a moderator for this group. I had updated my presentation [1]
> quite some time back to reflect the interleaved, trimmed posting. You
> are welcome to refer it when needed. 

I did not realise that. Unfortunately an uncorrected copy is being sent
to the list every month.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 12:48 +0530, sibi raj wrote:
> Hello Thyagarajan Shanmugham ,
> That was an entirely new post. Just 2 lines were from the previous
> mail . 
> I am fully supportive in case of interleaved posting . 
> But when  some one new does a top or bottom posting why we need to be
> so harsh to him ?
> That was my point over there .
> Not being harsh isn't a strict rule written any where but a basic
> human nature . 

please do not top post
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[mohi]

Hello,

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:03 +0530, sibi raj wrote:
> > This is called as democracy , One person Dictates and all others
> > listen to it ...
>
> who is this one person who has dictated this? (it is not me as I only
> joined this group in 2005 and the rules were already there). Let us find
> this bad fellow and kick him out.
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When you think of kicking one out, then freedom fails. Plus there are lots
of issues regarding attacks targeted. If action has to be taken for what you
mentioned, the same action should be taken at all times.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 13:47 +0530, mohi wrote:
> When you think of kicking one out, then freedom fails. Plus there are
> lots
> of issues regarding attacks targeted. If action has to be taken for
> what you
> mentioned, the same action should be taken at all times. 

it was a joke ;-) (reminder to self next time put a smiley after a
joke). btw, please do not bottom post.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anirudh Ranganath
 wrote:
> As far as naming goes, i personally vouch for ilugcbe, but if a majority of
> contributors from Coimbatore want GLUG, we can review it. Valid arguments
> for and against GNU/LINUX are given in many websites including wikipedia and
> gnu's
> website. However, i am personally neutral.
>

Just a thought -- there are many arguments (flamewars) on Linux v/s
GNU/Linux, but I've never really found any published arguments
(wikipedia, gnu.org, etc.) on the subject of LUG v/s GLUG. It has
always been LUG.


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[விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்]

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar <
siddhesh.poyare...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Anirudh Ranganath
>  wrote:
> > As far as naming goes, i personally vouch for ilugcbe, but if a majority
> of
> > contributors from Coimbatore want GLUG, we can review it. Valid arguments
> > for and against GNU/LINUX are given in many websites including wikipedia
> and
> > gnu's
> > website. However, i am personally neutral.
> >
>
> Just a thought -- there are many arguments (flamewars) on Linux v/s
> GNU/Linux, but I've never really found any published arguments
> (wikipedia, gnu.org, etc.) on the subject of LUG v/s GLUG. It has
> always been LUG.
>
>
Not exactly. There are a few GLUGS too [1],[2]. We can say there are more
LUGs than GLUGs.
[1] http://www.gnu.org.in/glug-meet
[2] http://www.glugot/tce.edu

Anyway I don't want to involve in any more flame war here, just shared the
info.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

2010/10/2 விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் :
> Not exactly. There are a few GLUGS too [1],[2]. We can say there are more
> LUGs than GLUGs.
> [1] http://www.gnu.org.in/glug-meet
> [2] http://www.glugot/tce.edu

Yes, I was wrong about my observations. There does seem to be a page
about the FSF trying to hijack the idea of a Linux User Group and
'encouraging' people to register GNU/Linux User Groups:

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-user-groups.html

In any case, it is a problem that the Coimbatore [G]?LUG needs to worry about.

> Anyway I don't want to involve in any more flame war here, just shared the
> info.

Why not? Flamewars are good if you learn from them.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi,

I am registering my thoughts, feel free to fire me, if you disagree..

IMO, having it as LUG can give an accommodation to widest audience. I am
seeing an attrition[1] in bring a glug, for reasons of Anti-M$  and similar
ideas of FSF(which i learnt from Mr.Siddarth session which happened in the
Aug ilugc meet). I feel being spiritual is going to help us rather than
staying religious. We have to win the hearts of people by showing
technology, assist them in their learning execise  and the sort of
ANTI-SOMETHING preaching is not going to work any more.

regards,

Thyagarajan Shanmugham

[1]In science, attrition are ratios regarding the loss of participants
during an experiment. Attrition rates are values that indicate participant
drop out. Higher attrition rates are found in longitudinal studies.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Akilan R]

2010/10/2 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் 

> IMO, having it as LUG can give an accommodation to widest audience. I am
> seeing an attrition[1] in bring a glug, for reasons of Anti-M$  and similar
> ideas of FSF(which i learnt from Mr.Siddarth session which happened in the
> Aug ilugc meet). I feel being spiritual is going to help us rather than
> staying religious. We have to win the hearts of people by showing
> technology, assist them in their learning execise  and the sort of
> ANTI-SOMETHING preaching is not going to work any more
>

I agree with you completely except for one bit: I don't know if you can
relate GLUG and Anti- MS sentiments. I myself prefer to call it GNU/Linux
but never indulge in MS bashing or even call it M$. I don't think many
people passionate about software freedom agree with many of Mr.Siddarth's
views on that day. I certainly do not.

Calling it as GNU/Linux is just an acknowledgement that Linux is just a
kernel and not an Operating System and that GNU project has contributed a
lot to that OS. Its unfair for GNU guys(not only for RMS, but to all those
who works in that project) not call it that way.

That in no way is associated with MS bashing.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi,
  I agree with you completely except for one bit: I don't know if you can

> relate GLUG and Anti- MS sentiments. I myself prefer to call it GNU/Linux
> but never indulge in MS bashing or even call it M$. I don't think many
> people passionate about software freedom agree with many of Mr.Siddarth's
> views on that day. I certainly do not.
>
> Calling it as GNU/Linux is just an acknowledgement that Linux is just a
> kernel and not an Operating System and that GNU project has contributed a
> lot to that OS. Its unfair for GNU guys(not only for RMS, but to all those
> who works in that project) not call it that way.
>
> That in no way is associated with MS bashing.
>
> If I am GLUG user, kindly explain me can I

1) Practice what I preach by using a  Apple i book/mac variants, activities
like porting Linux to apple mac..
2) Can i build an web app using FOSS+ adobe flex platform

and these are the two points which flashes immediately in my head and I am
welcomed to do a presentation in LUG on the above points, How about if it is
GLUG?. If  'No'  is the answer, Kindly acknowledge that there is a
difference, not just in the name.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[balachandar muruganantham]

I humbly request everyone to STOP on this debate.

This thread have violated the guidelines
1. top posting by many people
2. personal attack on members
3. inappropriate subject
4.

I humbly request everyone to follow
1. Mailing List Etiquette
http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf

2. Guidelines
http://www.ilugc.in/content/mailinglist-guidelines

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார்]

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:28 AM, balachandar muruganantham <
mbchan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I humbly request everyone to STOP on this debate.
>
> This thread have violated the guidelines
> 1. top posting by many people
> 2. personal attack on members
> 3. inappropriate subject
> 4.
>
>
I agree that some mails in the middle of this thread caused such noise, but
the recent mails are not so AFAIK. Discussion on the pros and cons of naming
as GLUG is quite related to the subject IMHO. Let the relevant discussions
go ahead.


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> http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf
>
> 2. Guidelines
> http://www.ilugc.in/content/mailinglist-guidelines
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi,

Whether GLUG or LUG member, you will be passionate in driving (Gnu)Linux to
all categories of people,
As a glug member I  am not allowed to have a dual boot system (M$ windows
and Gnu Linux) as the gnu philosopher says

"The free software movement has campaigned for computer users' freedom since
1983. In 1984 we launched the development of the free operating system GNU,
so that we could avoid the nonfree operating systems that deny freedom to
their users. During the 1980s, we developed most of the essential components
of the system and designed the GNU General Public
License(GNU GPL) to release them
under—a license designed specifically to protect
freedom for all users of a program."

There are strong faith (some of us here, may call blind faith) M$windows
users, As a glug member, i cannot install a dual boot and  give an
experience to the user and allow him to decide which one of the OS is better
for his needs. If I am a Lug member I am perfectly welcomed to do this.
The amount of new users whom you will lose or get is also dependent on which
way you choose, glug! or lug.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Raman.P]

--- On Sun, 3/10/10, Akilan R  wrote:

> Calling it as GNU/Linux is just an acknowledgement that
> Linux is just a
> kernel and not an Operating System and that GNU project has
> contributed a
> lot to that OS. Its unfair for GNU guys(not only for RMS,
> but to all those
> who works in that project) not call it that way.

In todays context especially on desktops, GUI is most important part of OS, so 
it is unfair not mention X also.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Ravi Jaya]

seeing an attrition[1] in bring a glug, for reasons of Anti-M$  and similar
> ideas of FSF(which i learnt from Mr.Siddarth session which happened in the
> Aug ilugc meet).
>
We shouldn't forget, that we win our bread and butter though the proprietary
companies.

What we preach shouldn't differ from, what we practice, but look at us their
is huge difference in our practice.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Azhagu Selvan SP]

On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 22:12 +0530, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் wrote:

> Not exactly. There are a few GLUGS too [1],[2]. We can say there are more
> LUGs than GLUGs.
> [1] http://www.gnu.org.in/glug-meet
> [2] http://www.glugot/tce.edu

It is http://glugot.tce.edu and also there is
http://glug-madurai.org  :)


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Shrinivasan T]

Friends.

Shall we stop here on discussing how to call a FOSS user group in this thread?

Linux or GNU/Linux or GNU/Apache/Mozilla/BSD/X/Y/Z/A/B/C/D/Linux ?

It is coimbore friend's own wish to name their group.
We have given enough links from them to read and proceed.

It will be nice if we discuss on how can help for forming a FOSS user
group in coimbaore.

Thanks.





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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi,

Shall we stop here on discussing how to call a FOSS user group in this
> thread?
>
> Linux or GNU/Linux or GNU/Apache/Mozilla/BSD/X/Y/Z/A/B/C/D/Linux ?
>
> It is coimbore friend's own wish to name their group.
> We have given enough links from them to read and proceed.
>
> It will be nice if we discuss on how can help for forming a FOSS user
> group in coimbaore.
>

Shrini, I am recording what  I think these points that will help to
differentiate LUG with glug.
It is not just confined to coimbatore friends, this may help any set of
people who are willing to form lug and contemplating in naming it as a lug
versus glug. My personal opinion is that one needs to adopt homotopic[1]
approach between  lug and glug.
Hope I believe I am in the ambit of good discussion, Shrini, care to explain
why this thread should be stopped.

regards,
Thyagarajan Shanmugham

[1]In topology, two continuous functions from one topological space to
another are called homotopic (Greek ὁμός (homós) = same, similar, and τόπος
(tópos) = place) if one can be "continuously deformed" into the other, such
a deformation being called a homotopy between the two functions
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Shrinivasan T]

Fine.

It is an endless discussion.
It is their wish to name their group.

We have given enough links and points to think.
Let us leave it in their hands.

Instead of naming a group,
we have to think on how to help for their activities.

Still, if we want to discuss on the naming a group,
please start a new thread and discuss.

We have to remember that we are still "Indian Linux User Group, Chennai" :-)

Thanks.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்]

Hi,

>>It is an endless discussion.
It is their wish to name their group.

But one should draw the line between lug and glug. I am trying to add
something to it.

>>We have given enough links and points to think.
Let us leave it in their hands.

Ofcourse,it is in their hands.Advocating is our job, isnt it?. So arguments
and counter arguments (until stays in ambit of this mailing list
guidelines), should be welcomed. What is enough, how do we quantify it?.

>>Instead of naming a group,we have to think on how to help for their
activities.

Some of the points which I added is from the operational domain.So naming
something and operating away from the  named spirit will be a irony. So, the
first help what we can offer them is to distinguish in nuances of naming.


>>Still, if we want to discuss on the naming a group,please start a new
thread and discuss

I cannot understand this logic of breaking the discussion.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

2010/10/3 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் 

> Hi,
>
> >>It is an endless discussion.
> It is their wish to name their group.
>
> But one should draw the line between lug and glug. I am trying to add
> something to it.
>
> >>We have given enough links and points to think.
> Let us leave it in their hands.
>
> Ofcourse,it is in their hands.Advocating is our job, isnt it?. So arguments
> and counter arguments (until stays in ambit of this mailing list
> guidelines), should be welcomed. What is enough, how do we quantify it?.
>
> >>Instead of naming a group,we have to think on how to help for their
> activities.
>
> Some of the points which I added is from the operational domain.So naming
> something and operating away from the  named spirit will be a irony. So,
> the
> first help what we can offer them is to distinguish in nuances of naming.
>
>
> >>Still, if we want to discuss on the naming a group,please start a new
> thread and discuss
>
> I cannot understand this logic of breaking the discussion.
>
>
> regards,
> Thyagarajan Shanmugham.
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If you want to continue the discussion on the name issue .please start a new
thread
and discuss it there . We need some ideas to start the club . So please help
for that

thanks
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

Hello Ganesh , 
For starting a Glug/Lug  ( I dont want to debate on it anymore on this thread 
as told by Ganesh), target a single college , it would be good if its your 
college , then  speak with the students  . They would most probably be your 
friends or in worst case friends of friends . Then represent this matter to 
your HOD . If there is green signal from HOD we can conduct a session in your 
college and after that free software  would start to blossom in and around 
Coimbatore .The only problem is a good beginning . Hope you guys can deliver it 
with full force . Any help feel feel to mail us . 
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Raman.P]

--- On Sun, 3/10/10, ganessh kumar rp  wrote:

> If you want to continue the discussion on the name issue
> .please start a new
> thread
> and discuss it there . We need some ideas to start the club
> . So please help
> for that

Here are some effective tips (what I think)

a.You can start meeting any where - on the 'mottaimadi' of your house even, But 
please start. If I remember right, the first ILUGC ( or the chennailug) was 
held in one of the founding member's house. As the famous saying goes ' a 
thousand mile journey starts with single step'. Look at Kanchilug - they meet 
on the lawns of 1200 year old temple. Few mandapas on steps of Marudhumalai 
comes to my mind for you. It is will that is important.

b.There is no point in planning too much in this kind of activity. We are not  
going to send rocket to moon - where you have only one chance. Our activities 
can be corrected over a period of time. But there should be some activitiy.

c.In my humble (or perverted/irrational/arrogant) opinion mailing doesn't help 
in organisational matters - only personal rapport with others help. So don't 
discuss too much of time on ideas. Whatever you can start immediately start now 
- get people involved. 

d.Try to attract industry people - for sustaining. Do not just concentrate only 
on students. 

f.For God's sake do not ask question like - I want to start lug ,give me idea 
what to do?.  Instead putforth your plan and then ask for suggestion. You will 
get meaningful discussion.


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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Girish Venkatachalam]

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Raman.P  wrote:
> --- On Sun, 3/10/10, ganessh kumar rp  wrote:
>
>> If you want to continue the discussion on the name issue
>> .please start a new
>> thread
>> and discuss it there . We need some ideas to start the club
>> . So please help
>> for that
>
> Here are some effective tips (what I think)
>
> a.You can start meeting any where - on the 'mottaimadi' of your house even, 
> But please start. If I remember right, the first ILUGC ( or the chennailug) 
> was held in one of the founding member's house. As the famous saying goes ' a 
> thousand mile journey starts with single step'. Look at Kanchilug - they meet 
> on the lawns of 1200 year old temple. Few mandapas on steps of Marudhumalai 
> comes to my mind for you. It is will that is important.
>
> b.There is no point in planning too much in this kind of activity. We are not 
>  going to send rocket to moon - where you have only one chance. Our 
> activities can be corrected over a period of time. But there should be some 
> activitiy.
>
> c.In my humble (or perverted/irrational/arrogant) opinion mailing doesn't 
> help in organisational matters - only personal rapport with others help. So 
> don't discuss too much of time on ideas. Whatever you can start immediately 
> start now - get people involved.
>
> d.Try to attract industry people - for sustaining. Do not just concentrate 
> only on students.
>
> f.For God's sake do not ask question like - I want to start lug ,give me idea 
> what to do?.  Instead putforth your plan and then ask for suggestion. You 
> will get meaningful discussion.

This mail is fantastic.

The experience is obvious.

Only one joke. ;)

Motta madis are costly in Chennai. My office is in motta madi though
it is fully furnished.

;)

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 09:31 +0530, Ravi Jaya wrote:
> seeing an attrition[1] in bring a glug, for reasons of Anti-M$  and
> similar
> > ideas of FSF(which i learnt from Mr.Siddarth session which happened
> in the
> > Aug ilugc meet).
> >
> We shouldn't forget, that we win our bread and butter though the
> proprietary
> companies.

who is we? I do not.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:59 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> If you want to continue the discussion on the name issue .please start
> a new
> thread
> and discuss it there . We need some ideas to start the club . So
> please help
> for that 

I am in Ooty, but spend a lot of time in Coimbatore and have been trying
to form a LUG there for a long time. I will turn up for any meetings -
and also help to arrange for venues. (If it is a LUG)
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[ganessh kumar rp]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:59 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> > If you want to continue the discussion on the name issue .please start
> > a new
> > thread
> > and discuss it there . We need some ideas to start the club . So
> > please help
> > for that
>
> I am in Ooty, but spend a lot of time in Coimbatore and have been trying
> to form a LUG there for a long time. I will turn up for any meetings -
> and also help to arrange for venues. (If it is a LUG)
> --
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 18:15 +0530, ganessh kumar rp wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mr .Ramam  and Kenneth 

I am arranging a preliminary meeting on saturday - please come
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