Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-15 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Raja Subramanian wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
 Perl is extensively used for testing and automation. Two major domains
 that come to my mind are:

 * VLSI - test case implementation (verification and validation
 engineers), and in * Telecommunication systems.

 Chennai is a major hub for pre-press and publishing outsourcing
 in India.  The automation involved in this industry (XML/Word/Latex/etc
 conversion) is extensively built using Perl.  The demand for good
 Perl talent in this industry is ever growing over the past 10 years.

Many telecommunication companies, like Alcatel,  in Chennai are
extensively using Perl for their internal testing. I used Agilent
tester for our network router testing, in that, for some of the custom
test plans, I have to use Perl.

Bye :)
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:34 +0530, ravi jaya wrote:
  I am willing to organise one or two days event on perl. Can we?
 
  +1,
 
 Not only the  occassional events, but  if we can organize the
 periodical
 meet would be appreaciated, 

let us not go overboard ;-)
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[Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread jaya kumar
hi to all

anyone can tell is there any active meetups will be held to discussion about
perl ?

becuase for the last few months am seeing there is not even single person
posting the doubt about perl ?

i heard that Perl is toughest language and it take long time to understand
(Ex:some yrs) is it How far is it true ?

what about the current openings for perl programmers as a freshers ?
available or not ?

please suggest experts !


thank u bye take care
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread ravi jaya
hi to all

Hello..


 anyone can tell is there any active meetups will be held to discussion
 about
 perl ?

AFAIK their is no existing user groups or meetups  happening for Perl in
Chennai.

What you would say?,  if we could start one.


 becuase for the last few months am seeing there is not even single person
 posting the doubt about perl ?

could be.


 i heard that Perl is toughest language and it take long time to understand
 (Ex:some yrs) is it How far is it true ?

In that case the Chinese and the Japanese  are though. Until and unless
one's learn it.


 what about the current openings for perl programmers as a freshers ?
 available or not ?

a Skilled Programmers could sell  any where. Perl is no where lesser than
any thing in that case.



 please suggest experts !

Good luck to you,



 thank u bye take care

Thanks.



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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 22:28 +0530, jaya kumar wrote:
 anyone can tell is there any active meetups will be held to discussion
 about
 perl ?

I was a perl programmer for about 7 years - even then I was unable to
organise a single meet up although there were many perl people in those
days. I these days people have moved on - although we have a genuine
expert in Raman - any doubts posted will be clarified here

 
 becuase for the last few months am seeing there is not even single
 person
 posting the doubt about perl ?
 
 i heard that Perl is toughest language and it take long time to
 understand
 (Ex:some yrs) is it How far is it true ?

it is not tough - it it is a wonderful language - I love it, and the
further away I am from it, the more I love it ;-)
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 07:03 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
 Yes, Perl takes 4 years.
 
 It is meant for UNIX geeks. 

and top posters?
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 11:30 +0530, Raman.P wrote:
 Coming to the other part - I am willing to organise one or two days
 event on perl. Can we?

I hope I can attend. I remember a lot of fun using perl. Only I had to
move away because I found it difficult using it when collaborative
development - it is fine for individual work.
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Coming to the other part - I am willing to organise one or two days event on 
 perl. Can we?

+1

Count me in!

- Raja
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Rajkannan Rajan
 Coming to the other part - I am willing to organise one or two days event on 
 perl. Can we?

Thanks Raman...yes, please. Is it going to be classroom training? if
yes, I look forward to that and would like to enroll (and as a
separate note, event in saturday/sunday is preferred)
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Rajkannan Rajan
 I would think that's because nobody is learning perl anymore. These days
 only old perl programmmers exist. That's because in this age of quick cpus,
 fast net connections, and UIs for everything from network configuration to
 backup tools, there is no real reason to learn perl. Especially since the
 advent of easier and altogether more fun languages like python.


right but one must remember there are large number of systems still
very much has Perl dependency in many investment banks/financial
institutions (not sure about other verticals/businesses) since the
migration (for example, Perl to Python) would take it's own course of
time and folks who are driving/working on that must know Perl in
detail for code review etc, to put it simpler: I still want to learn
and looking forward Raman's session/training event :)

as a side note, I think Simon Cozens _beginning-perl_ is also good
place to get started: http://www.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/ if you
have basic programming skills
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote:
| disclaimer: highly opinionated answer follows
| ...
| I would think that's because nobody is learning perl anymore.
\--

Perl is extensively used for testing and automation. Two major domains
that come to my mind are:

* VLSI - test case implementation (verification and validation
engineers), and in
* Telecommunication systems.

SK

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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Perl is extensively used for testing and automation. Two major domains
 that come to my mind are:

 * VLSI - test case implementation (verification and validation
 engineers), and in
 * Telecommunication systems.

Chennai is a major hub for pre-press and publishing outsourcing
in India.  The automation involved in this industry (XML/Word/Latex/etc
conversion) is extensively built using Perl.  The demand for good
Perl talent in this industry is ever growing over the past 10 years.

- Raja
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:06 +0800, Rajkannan Rajan wrote:
 since the
 migration (for example, Perl to Python) would take it's own course of
 time 

I had an app that took me about 4 years to develop in perl. I learnt
python and migrated the app in 2 weeks.
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Re: [Ilugc] perl toughest language or easy ?

2010-11-14 Thread Raman.P
Perl is not dead. There is enough space for multiple languages to exist. Loot 
at http://search.cpan.org/recent to judge the number of modules created/updated 
every day. Certainly not all of them are written by old programmers. 
 Look at other projects like catalyst framework, webmin, bricolage, movabletype 
blog, mojolicious, foswiki,webgui cms etc., to see how alive it is.

Above all our KG's favourite search engine duckduckgo is also running on perl. 
I think another search engine blekko is also using perl.

Hopefully perl6 will come soon to set at rest all the doubts.

Raman.P
blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/





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