Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-19 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar 
Hi,

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Joe Steeve  wrote:
> On Saturday 19 January 2013 12:34 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote:
>> I have worked in a big organisation that uses concepts of
>> Model-Driven-Engineering very effectively, and uses model-to-code in
>> production. And it has been quite successful.
>
> How does it work when you refactor your design?
>

   I am not sure if I got your question. You refactor your design,
run make build, you have code generated again. Run make, the code gets
compiled and the binaries are out. Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-19 Thread Joe Steeve 
On Saturday 19 January 2013 12:34 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote:
> I have worked in a big organisation that uses concepts of
> Model-Driven-Engineering very effectively, and uses model-to-code in
> production. And it has been quite successful.

How does it work when you refactor your design?

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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-18 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar 
Hi,

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Joe Steeve  wrote:
>
> I dont have suggestions to fix your problem. However, IMHO:
>
> On Saturday 12 January 2013 11:09 AM, சுதன் | suthan wrote:
>> The Code generation wizard window does not open properly in windows.
>
> UML is best when it is used to communicate a design idea to fellow
> peers. The usefulness of model-to-code practices/methods is debatable.
> In most cases, a white-board works better than the tools.
>

I have worked in a big organisation that uses concepts of
Model-Driven-Engineering very effectively, and uses model-to-code in
production. And it has been quite successful.

Not just that, UML, aided with U2TP covers your product and
test designs. And there are tools that take MSCs as inputs and
generate test cases. This way you get really nice path coverage for
testing.

> Students should be taught to design by modelling rather than using a
> tool to generate code.
>

  Agreed :) Unfortunately, students are not taught to design at
all. In most colleges, the "lab exercise" is an exercise in copying
the same code written by a senior and getting full score in for the
lab sessions. Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-18 Thread Arun Khan 
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Joe Steeve  wrote:
>
> UML is best when it is used to communicate a design idea to fellow
> peers. The usefulness of model-to-code practices/methods is debatable.
> In most cases, a white-board works better than the tools.
>
> Students should be taught to design by modelling rather than using a
> tool to generate code.

+1 Totally agree.   Students should be taught the fundamentals, when
they write their own code they will know where and what to look for,
to solve bugs in software (be it hand written or tool generated).

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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-18 Thread Joe Steeve 

I dont have suggestions to fix your problem. However, IMHO:

On Saturday 12 January 2013 11:09 AM, சுதன் | suthan wrote:
> The Code generation wizard window does not open properly in windows.

UML is best when it is used to communicate a design idea to fellow
peers. The usefulness of model-to-code practices/methods is debatable.
In most cases, a white-board works better than the tools.

Students should be taught to design by modelling rather than using a
tool to generate code.

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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-13 Thread சுதன் | suthan 
>
> Can you plan for a FOSS workshop in your college.  I can help in every
> possible way or even make it easier for your students to adapt to
> GNU/Linux platform.
> 
>


We are actually planning to do one. we have also considered calling you for
that baskar. Will sure get back to you off the list.
Thank you very much for responding.
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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-13 Thread Baskar Selvaraj 
 Also i asked
> for Windows since it deals with many students and making them all use linux
> at home will not be possible. they may be told to use linux at college
> systems not in their home pcs. I am also going to use linux in college if i
> am not able to solve the problem. But making the students to shift to free
> software will get difficult

Can you plan for a FOSS workshop in your college.  I can help in every
possible way or even make it easier for your students to adapt to
GNU/Linux platform.

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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-13 Thread prasannatsmkumar 
Compile the code yourself. Take all the executables and other
binaries, copy to other XP machines and use it. This should work if
Umbrello works after compiling.

On 13 January 2013 21:19, சுதன் | suthan <83su...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I am actually expecting help for Umbrello and not for winxp. Also i asked
> for Windows since it deals with many students and making them all use linux
> at home will not be possible. they may be told to use linux at college
> systems not in their home pcs. I am also going to use linux in college if i
> am not able to solve the problem. But making the students to shift to free
> software will get difficult
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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-13 Thread சுதன் | suthan 
 I am actually expecting help for Umbrello and not for winxp. Also i asked
for Windows since it deals with many students and making them all use linux
at home will not be possible. they may be told to use linux at college
systems not in their home pcs. I am also going to use linux in college if i
am not able to solve the problem. But making the students to shift to free
software will get difficult
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Re: [Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-11 Thread Asokan Pichai 
[Detailed description of problem snipped]


> Is there any other way with which i can correct the problem.

Yes


> I am using windows Xp.
>
Don't

Seriously, while ChennaiLUG is one of the most inclusive, I think
expecting a LUG to help in using WinXP is quite  hopeful?

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[Ilugc] problem with umbrello window

2013-01-11 Thread சுதன் | suthan 
Hi,

 I am facing a problem with Umbrello. The Code generation wizard window
does not open properly in windows. In windows i am unable to see the
buttons at the bottom of the page. I have tried changing the resolution.
But it does not solve the problem. But the same works fine in linux. I
googled and found similar complaints from other users. The solutions are to
compile from and source and other such. SInce i am suggesting my students
to use this, these solutions will not help as they would feel uncomfortable
with all the compilation process and will quit using Umbrello. Is there any
other way with which i can correct the problem. I am using windows Xp.

Suthan.A
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