[ilugd] redhat 9.0 product key

2004-05-13 Thread pg smh
hi there,
i need to register my  redhat 9.0 with the redhat network in order to 
recieve updates thru their up2date option, but i got the redhat 9.0 cds 
from a frnd and was not given any product key.
so can anyone suggest me some other option or the way to get a product key 
so that i can use the up2date option .

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Re: [ilugd] redhat 9.0 product key

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
pg smh wrote:
hi there,
i need to register my  redhat 9.0 with the redhat network in order to 
recieve updates thru their up2date option, but i got the redhat 9.0 
cds from a frnd and was not given any product key.
so can anyone suggest me some other option or the way to get a product 
key so that i can use the up2date option .
Dont worry. Redhat 9 is no longer supported by Red Hat network. So you 
wont be able to register/update your system. They terminated my *paid* 
Red Hat Network subscription after they changed their Red Hat release 
policy.

If you want Red Hat Network support, upgrade to the paid Red Hat 
Enterprise Linux, and then join the paid RHN online support.

- Sandip

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[ilugd] Movable type licence changes

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Movable Type or MT, one of the most popular free (for personal use) 
blogging software, has come out with a new version of their software 
(v3.0) as well as a new licence.

Their new licence whose cost is pegged on the number of users using the 
installation (apart from type of use - personal and private) is raising 
hackles of many users around the world, and people are looking for 
alternates.

http://www.sixapart.com/corner/archives/2004/05/its_about_time.shtml#trackback

- Sandip

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[ilugd] #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread Bhaskar Dutta

Hi all,
 just a thought.
 how about having an IRC channel where we can have some discussions as well as 
help some newbies?
 is it a good idea? my apologies if it sounds stupid or lame. you can flame me 
on #ilugd at irc.freenode.net

regards,
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Re: [ilugd] #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Bhaskar Dutta wrote:
Hi all,
 just a thought.
 how about having an IRC channel where we can have some discussions as well as 
help some newbies?
 is it a good idea? my apologies if it sounds stupid or lame. you can flame me 
on #ilugd at irc.freenode.net

I was thinking of the same. :) I think it will be a good idea .

- Sandip

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[ilugd] disk partitioning

2004-05-13 Thread Mohan Cheema
Hi,

I have query is there any utility to partition a disk
from command line i.e. giving all option on commandline
for partition type, partition size and soon. Googlising
the didn't help much.

TIA

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Re: [ilugd] disk partitioning

2004-05-13 Thread Ish
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Mohan Cheema wrote:

 Hi,

 I have query is there any utility to partition a disk
 from command line i.e. giving all option on commandline
 for partition type, partition size and soon. Googlising
 the didn't help much.

 TIA

have a look at  ' man fdisk '

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Re: [ilugd] disk partitioning

2004-05-13 Thread Bhaskar Dutta
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   On Thursday 13 May 2004 17:34, MC Mohan Cheema said:
MC Hi,
MC
MC I have query is there any utility to partition a disk
MC from command line i.e. giving all option on commandline
MC for partition type, partition size and soon. Googlising
MC the didn't help much.
MC
MC TIA
MC

from the manpages of fdisk:

  There  are  several  *fdisk programs around.  Each has its problems and
   strengths.  Try them in the  order  cfdisk,  fdisk,  sfdisk.   (Indeed,
   cfdisk  is a beautiful program that has strict requirements on the par-
   tition tables it accepts, and produces high quality  partition  tables.
   Use  it  if you can.  fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things -
   usually it happens to produce reasonable results. Its single  advantage
   is  that it has some support for BSD disk labels and other non-DOS par-
   tition tables.  Avoid it if you can.  sfdisk is for hackers only -  the
   user  interface is terrible, but it is more correct than fdisk and more
   powerful than both fdisk and cfdisk.  Moreover, it can be  used  nonin-
   teractively.)

so what you probably need is sfdisk. also check out parted.
and dont forget to Read The Fine Manual.


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[ilugd] mails flushed but lost by fetchmail

2004-05-13 Thread anshul makkar
i have configured sendmail and fetchmail .
delivery of mails by sendmail is ok.
but when i fetch my mails through fetchmail it works
properly that  message flushed
but if , then i give the mail command it show  no
message for the user 
even if i check the /var/spool/mail/user name  file
it has no messages .
please help me
thanking you





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Re: [ilugd] mails flushed but lost by fetchmail

2004-05-13 Thread Ish
Hi,

I've done it with procmail ... just add
mda procmail -d user_name
at the end of your .fetchmailrc file
this will move the mails for a particular user to
/var/spool/mail/user_name
obviously you'll need to check if you have procmail installed. I havent
played a lot with it so cant give you more details but have a look at man
pages.
my .fetchmailrc :

set postmaster igill
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties 
poll mail.softhome.net with proto POP3
   user 'ishpreetgill' there with password 'x' is 'ishpreetgill'
here
mda procmail -d igill


suggestion: saving password in .fetchmailrc can be dangerous for health
:)

hth
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[ilugd] Re: ilugd Digest, Vol 14, Issue 17

2004-05-13 Thread Mayank Jain
hi sandip,
even i noticed that. i'll do somthng about this before my next post
(even this post :-))

Mayank Jain
 
 Message: 6
 Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:02:38 +0530
 From: Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ilugd] Automated Oracle Installer...
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
 
 Mayank Jain wrote:
  Hi Raj,
  Right now i'm thinking of just automating the
  file-copy process  starting installation. But
 
 Mayank, I really think you should work on your signature. IT is now
 almost 20 lines long! Your mails are dwarfed by the sign of your
 signature! Your last mail main body was 12 lines and your signature was
 20 lines!
 
 IF you have things to offer, put in a line in your sig with an URL to
 your home page.
 
 Lets help keeping the list and archives less cluttered, shall we? :)
 
 - Sandip
 
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Re: [ilugd] not recieving any mails

2004-05-13 Thread shshank jain
thanks sandip

problem solved

From: Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [ilugd] not recieving any mails
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:55:58 +0530
shshank jain wrote:
i have not been recieving any mails from the linux group .Some time back i 
got a mail that because of excessive bounces my membership has been 
temporarily put on hold . I was asked to reply to the mail or vist a URL I 
did both but i get an eror saying invalid string

Have you tried going to the List information place at 
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd, entering your email address 
in the last text field, and then logging in?

List bounces should disable your mail delivery by an admin privilege and 
may  not be enabled by you. You might have to mail the listadmins whose 
email addresses is given at the bottom of the URL I gave above. You should 
mail them about your problem.

- Sandip



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Re: [ilugd] #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread vivek khurana

--- Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Bhaskar Dutta wrote:
 
 I was thinking of the same. :) I think it will be a
 good idea .

 Ya a good idea like the idea of forum was ;-)

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[ilugd] [Fwd: [LIH]Printing mp3s]

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Got a good music system in the office where everybody can request mp3s 
to be played? Sitting from their own workstations? ;)

- Sandip

 Original Message 
Subject: [LIH]Printing mp3s
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:46:34 +0530
From: Devdas Bhagat
Newsgroups: gmane.user-groups.linux.india.help
Printing mp3s with LPR

http://patrick.wagstrom.net/old/weblog/archives/000128.html

Streaming audio :)

Devdas Bhagat

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[ilugd] Significant performance issues in RHL 8.0/9.0

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Have you seen updatdb freezing the machines on these RHL machines? I 
digged around a bit, and found this bug report.
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=69900

Basically check out this sample session.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time grep '^' /var/log/messages  /dev/null
real0m3.062s
user0m2.780s
sys 0m0.080s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_US

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# echo $LANG
en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time grep '^' /var/log/messages  /dev/null
real0m0.031s
user0m0.030s
sys 0m0.000s
===
Basically a lot of text related programs are slower by orders of 
magnitude because Red Hat Linux default to UTF-8 processing for its 
work. And UTF compliant programs like grep spend a lot of time looking 
for multibyte characters(as in UTF) where mostly there arent any. I am 
guessing here, but maybe updatedb can run faster too. Havent tested it yet.

If you are unlikely to work with UTF-8 based text(i guess on most 
servers as opposed to desktops which have a lot of UI dependent on it), 
you can change the value of LANG in /etc/sysconfig/i18n and speed up 
many applications on the machine.

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Significant performance issues in RHL 8.0/9.0

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
Basically a lot of text related programs are slower by orders of 
magnitude because Red Hat Linux default to UTF-8 processing for its 
work. And UTF compliant programs like grep spend a lot of time looking 
for multibyte characters(as in UTF) where mostly there arent any. I am 
guessing here, but maybe updatedb can run faster too. Havent tested it yet.

I checked further on this. I added LANG=en_US at the top of 
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron and ran it. The loadavg hardly ever went 
above 1.4, and the system was very usable. However, without this line 
(the default), the loadavg went through the roof (4.9+) and the system 
was actually unusable.

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Significant performance issues in RHL 8.0/9.0

2004-05-13 Thread Sudev Barar
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 12:36, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
  
  Basically a lot of text related programs are slower by orders of 
  magnitude because Red Hat Linux default to UTF-8 processing for its 
  work. And UTF compliant programs like grep spend a lot of time looking 
  for multibyte characters(as in UTF) where mostly there arent any. I am 
  guessing here, but maybe updatedb can run faster too. Havent tested it yet.
  
Interesting. SO I ran tests on two systems. RH9 and PCQ2004 (FedoraC1)
With RH9 base system running updatedb twice (to rule out spooling etc.)
in each setting gives following results:

START..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_IN.UTF-8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real0m10.167s
user0m1.410s
sys 0m1.820s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real0m8.610s
user0m1.230s
sys 0m2.020s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_IN.UTF-8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real0m14.286s
user0m1.300s
sys 0m2.020s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real0m6.589s
user0m1.210s
sys 0m1.970s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
END.

Same with PCQ2004 base system
START.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_IN.UTF-8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real1m23.953s
user0m2.130s
sys 0m3.910s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real2m18.792s
user0m2.200s
sys 0m4.040s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_IN.UTF-8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real1m31.651s
user0m2.130s
sys 0m4.030s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# export LANG=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# time updatedb

real2m51.618s
user0m2.440s
sys 0m4.220s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
END

Not much difference? Also Mozilla become slower with en_US in PCQ2004
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Re: [ilugd] disk partitioning

2004-05-13 Thread Ish
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Mohan Cheema wrote:

 Hi,

 I have query is there any utility to partition a disk
 from command line i.e. giving all option on commandline
 for partition type, partition size and soon. Googlising
 the didn't help much.

 TIA



have a look at this link: http://www.partimage.org/

-!sh

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[ilugd] Re: #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread jasmeet
Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  how about having an IRC channel where we can have some discussions as well as 
 help some newbies?
  is it a good idea? my apologies if it sounds stupid or lame. you can flame me 
 on #ilugd at irc.freenode.net

I am not sure if you know, there is already a #linux-help on Undernet where you
could get help.
Also there is #linux on Undernet, where linux users usually hang out, but this
one is strictly NON help channel, you can exchange ideas though.

-js


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Re: [ilugd] Re: #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread Bhaskar Dutta
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   On Friday 14 May 2004 8:54 am, ja jasmeet said:
ja Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ja   how about having an IRC channel where we can have some discussions
 as well as ja  help some newbies?
ja   is it a good idea? my apologies if it sounds stupid or lame. you
 can flame me ja  on #ilugd at irc.freenode.net
ja
ja I am not sure if you know, there is already a #linux-help on Undernet
 where you ja could get help.
ja Also there is #linux on Undernet, where linux users usually hang
 out, but this ja one is strictly NON help channel, you can exchange ideas
 though. ja

i know about that...there are of course hundreds of channels relating to 
linux. but what i was suggesting was an india-centric channel. 

We have already started #linux-india on irc.freenode.net 
do check it out!

regards,
bhaskar

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Re: [ilugd] Re: #ilugd on IRC?

2004-05-13 Thread Raj Mathur
 Jasmeet == jasmeet  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jasmeet Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 how about having an IRC channel where we can have some
 discussions as well as help some newbies?  is it a good idea? 
 my apologies if it sounds stupid or lame. you can flame me on
 #ilugd at irc.freenode.net

Jasmeet I am not sure if you know, there is already a #linux-help
Jasmeet on Undernet where you could get help.  Also there is
Jasmeet #linux on Undernet, where linux users usually hang out,
Jasmeet but this one is strictly NON help channel, you can
Jasmeet exchange ideas though.

It's #linuxhelp, and it's full of nice, kind people who will nicely
tell you to go to google first before disturbing their peace.  However
if you do demonstrate a clue they will be very glad to help you (clue
as in having read and imbibed
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ).

#linux on Undernet, OTOH, is completely insane.  It's full of gurus in
just about any field you could think of, but it's horribly elitist and
has zero tolerance for idiots.  If you manage to get someone's
interest there you will get better support than paying
$UMPTEEN_BILLIONS to $COMMERCIAL_ENTITY, but the chances are higher
that you'll get kicked out within 15 seconds of joining for having a
weird nick, sp34k1ng in l33t-sp33k, using junk like ``u r'' when you
mean ``you are'' or just because some chanop is in a bad mood due to
his/her coffee machine having broken down in the morning.

If you do dare to go there I'm sometimes online as OldMonk.  Don't
expect any favours, though -- when in #linux I forget all other
affiliations :)

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Re: [ilugd] Significant performance issues in RHL 8.0/9.0

2004-05-13 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Sudev Barar wrote:
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 12:36, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

Basically a lot of text related programs are slower by orders of 
magnitude because Red Hat Linux default to UTF-8 processing for its 
work. And UTF compliant programs like grep spend a lot of time looking 
for multibyte characters(as in UTF) where mostly there arent any. I am 
guessing here, but maybe updatedb can run faster too. Havent tested it yet.

Interesting. SO I ran tests on two systems. RH9 and PCQ2004 (FedoraC1)
With RH9 base system running updatedb twice (to rule out spooling etc.)
in each setting gives following results:
Weird. What exactly is your updatedb indexing? On my system it takes 
5+minutes to index the system, and in your system it is taking a few 
seconds!

I have a heavy loaded system. My df -h is thus:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sandip]$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 6.8G  6.3G  163M  98% /
/dev/hda1  99M   27M   68M  28% /boot
/dev/hda2  25G   20G  3.3G  86% /home
/dev/hda7 2.0G  693M  1.3G  36% /opt
none  251M 0  251M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda5 2.9G  1.8G  1.1G  63% /var
How much data do you have?

Also, can you give your figures of peak CPU usage during the runs?

- Sandip

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