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[ilugd] Minutes of Meeting ILUGD General May Meeting
After having located Maharaja TUX banner from afar I walked into a
jam-packed discussion room on what should be the most efficient way of
Distributing CDs of distributions and updates with Raj Mathur coordinating
the discussion.
(This was nowhere on agenda *but I wasn't surprised it happens* the speaker
who had to speak first hadn't yet landed) This discussion continued well
after the who had to speaker who had to speak first landed.
As usual the discussion ended without any formal decision on how the CD
distribution and update packages need to be distributed in this bandwidth
starved (rant: and clueless ISPs who don't run any local mirrors for ISO
downloads and bill bandwidth as a precious commodity) country.
Edwin and Azad Singh suggested that we co-opt the Nehru Place IT Hardware
Community into this mammoth(thus profitable by volumes task) of CD
distribution as Nehru Place is visited by a lot IT enthusiasts asking for
Linux CDs anyway. We will need to work out what should/can ILUGD members do
on that.
Akshay promised unlimited master ISO downloads at his facilities.
Other things discussed in this non-agenda item included where to spend the
potential monies from a sponsor ideas included
1. Buy a CD duplicator
(Certain issues need to be resolved related to efficient and cost effective
CD distribution and where the CD duplicator fits into this scheme)
2. Buy a couple of Wifi Cards and an Access Point for use in the future Wifi
Enabled ILUGD meetings.(Yes we would be the first ILUG in India if we do
that)
3. Buy cordless collar mike and 'surround' sound system for the benefit of
low volume speakers ( we have too many of them as well )
I shall start a separate thread for the above two discussions
1) Efficient CD distribution
2) Spending the potential sponsor money
Finally the originally planned speakers for the meet were allowed to speak
and discussion brought to an abrupt end (only to potentially brew into
flamewars on the list)
First speaker was Raj Shekhar who explained with the help of a live demo
installing emacs (oh that was easy #apt-get install emacs) and configuring
the Xresources file for PHP syntax recognition and integration of
online(locally installed) PHP help into the system.
The syntax Xresources resembled or was LISP so Pankaj readily suggested that
we would since in any case need to learn LISP lets give PHP a go by.
(Pankaj lives and will die by the maxim do perl || die and doesn't seem to
be in love with PHP)
The talk was over with a few helpful interruptions by another Raj present in
the meet.
Raj was followed by Akshay Lamba who almost made the audience drool on his
l33t hax0r sk1llz until he made it clear that he didn't understand the
shell code written in Hex. Akshay explained the use of nmap, ntop,
nessus... security tools with the help of the virtual LAN he carried on his
Laptop. Akshay also emphasized an integrated approach to security.
This was followed by an unusually long tea/coffee and cold-drink break
tempered with category killer samosas and Rasogullas (woe be those who
didn't attend the meet) peppered with varied discussions ranging from
socitification of ILUGD (Anand Shankar suggested that perhaps it maybe a
better idea to get ILUGD registered in Haryana), the futility of including
Visual Basic/ASP in IT syllabi of a seemingly enlightened university in
Delhi, A few rounds of Table Tennis, CD distribution.
Yashpal also the Meet Coordinator and co-host (along with Ajay Anand)
explained the setting up of a ipsec network and explained the difference
between a normal Gateway to Gateway VPN setup and Gateway to Roadwarrior
setup. He also explained rsync and its utility for backing things across
the VPN networks and helpfully interrupted by Raj Mathur explaining how he
used rsync over ssh tunnels in P2P mode of operation instead of the
client-server mode explained by Yashpal. Sandeep added his bit into the
discussion by explaining that once you get a non-pristine ISO whose md5sum
doesn't match you can rsync it with one of the rsync servers having the ISO
to get your pristine ISO back.
Eswar explaining sed and awk.
Eswar explained the benefits of sed and awk compared to badly coded
Perl(yes slurp the whole file into the memory and then operate on it
instead of line by line) and their historical roots from ed the command
line editor which he recalled nostalgically. Eshwar explained the basic
stream oriented nature of sed and awk. And the way awk is used to process
text through its implicit loop which acts on each line of the input.
Again Eswar was interrupted by Raj Mathur (who seemed to be in a very
helpful mood) on how regular expressions are used with some of the quirks
and tricks using a freshly installed vim('for wimps' *yours truly uses
vim+eclipse these days for writing perl*) highlighting matched expressions.
Since it became quite late and people had had enough grub courtsey eSys and
enough talks it was decided to call it a day and the last speaker Goldwyn
Rodrigues
Re: [ilugd] Minutes of Meeting ILUGD General May Meeting
Tarun, You missed the conclusion about the CD distribution. It was decided that 1. Akshay Lamba will download ISO and send to his office at Oklha. 2. YashPal Nagar will collect those ISO from Akshay's Office at Okhla and make CD's 3. Yashpal/Ajay will courier those CDs to the three main Distribution channels of ilugd (to be decided) and also make CDs available to the whoso ever wants. eSys office will be taking care of distribution in South Delhi. 4. Akshya proposed to take care of Gurgaon. Please feel to append. -Ajay Anand Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/2004 09:06 AM Please respond to The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject [ilugd] Minutes of Meeting ILUGD General May Meeting After having located Maharaja TUX banner from afar I walked into a jam-packed discussion room on what should be the most efficient way of Distributing CDs of distributions and updates with Raj Mathur coordinating the discussion. (This was nowhere on agenda *but I wasn't surprised it happens* the speaker who had to speak first hadn't yet landed) This discussion continued well after the who had to speaker who had to speak first landed. As usual the discussion ended without any formal decision on how the CD distribution and update packages need to be distributed in this bandwidth starved (rant: and clueless ISPs who don't run any local mirrors for ISO downloads and bill bandwidth as a precious commodity) country. Edwin and Azad Singh suggested that we co-opt the Nehru Place IT Hardware Community into this mammoth(thus profitable by volumes task) of CD distribution as Nehru Place is visited by a lot IT enthusiasts asking for Linux CDs anyway. We will need to work out what should/can ILUGD members do on that. Akshay promised unlimited master ISO downloads at his facilities. Other things discussed in this non-agenda item included where to spend the potential monies from a sponsor ideas included 1. Buy a CD duplicator (Certain issues need to be resolved related to efficient and cost effective CD distribution and where the CD duplicator fits into this scheme) 2. Buy a couple of Wifi Cards and an Access Point for use in the future Wifi Enabled ILUGD meetings.(Yes we would be the first ILUG in India if we do that) 3. Buy cordless collar mike and 'surround' sound system for the benefit of low volume speakers ( we have too many of them as well ) I shall start a separate thread for the above two discussions 1) Efficient CD distribution 2) Spending the potential sponsor money Finally the originally planned speakers for the meet were allowed to speak and discussion brought to an abrupt end (only to potentially brew into flamewars on the list) First speaker was Raj Shekhar who explained with the help of a live demo installing emacs (oh that was easy #apt-get install emacs) and configuring the Xresources file for PHP syntax recognition and integration of online(locally installed) PHP help into the system. The syntax Xresources resembled or was LISP so Pankaj readily suggested that we would since in any case need to learn LISP lets give PHP a go by. (Pankaj lives and will die by the maxim do perl || die and doesn't seem to be in love with PHP) The talk was over with a few helpful interruptions by another Raj present in the meet. Raj was followed by Akshay Lamba who almost made the audience drool on his l33t hax0r sk1llz until he made it clear that he didn't understand the shell code written in Hex. Akshay explained the use of nmap, ntop, nessus... security tools with the help of the virtual LAN he carried on his Laptop. Akshay also emphasized an integrated approach to security. This was followed by an unusually long tea/coffee and cold-drink break tempered with category killer samosas and Rasogullas (woe be those who didn't attend the meet) peppered with varied discussions ranging from socitification of ILUGD (Anand Shankar suggested that perhaps it maybe a better idea to get ILUGD registered in Haryana), the futility of including Visual Basic/ASP in IT syllabi of a seemingly enlightened university in Delhi, A few rounds of Table Tennis, CD distribution. Yashpal also the Meet Coordinator and co-host (along with Ajay Anand) explained the setting up of a ipsec network and explained the difference between a normal Gateway to Gateway VPN setup and Gateway to Roadwarrior setup. He also explained rsync and its utility for backing things across the VPN networks and helpfully interrupted by Raj Mathur explaining how he used rsync over ssh tunnels in P2P mode of operation instead of the client-server mode explained by Yashpal. Sandeep added his bit into the discussion by explaining that once you get a non-pristine ISO whose md5sum doesn't match you can rsync it with one of the rsync servers having the ISO to get your pristine ISO back. Eswar explaining sed and awk. Eswar explained the benefits of sed and awk compared to badly coded
[ilugd] List of Attendees at ILUGD general May Meeting
1. Yashpal Nager 2. Ajay Anand 3. Rahul Chopra 4. Akshay Lamba 5. Tarun Dua 6. Goldwyn Rorigues 7. Kishore Bhargawa 8. Anand Shankar 9. Navneet 10. Vaibhav Sharma 11. Edwin 12. Rajat Duggal 13. Nikhil Kaul 14. Ashim Kapoor 15. Ashish Shukla 16. Tirveni Yadav 17. Rantu Saikia 18. Swapan Deep 19. Azad Singh 20. Vinod Nayak 21. Sameer Batra 22. Sandip Bhattacharya 23. Balwan S. Yadav 24. Virender Sharma 25. Raj Mathur 26. Pankaj Kaushal 27. Eswar 28. Raj Shekhar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Minutes of Meeting ILUGD General May Meeting
Ajay Anand wrote: You missed the conclusion about the CD distribution. It was decided that 1. Akshay Lamba will download ISO and send to his office at Oklha. 2. YashPal Nagar will collect those ISO from Akshay's Office at Okhla and make CD's 3. Yashpal/Ajay will courier those CDs to the three main Distribution channels of ilugd (to be decided) and also make CDs available to the whoso ever wants. eSys office will be taking care of distribution in South Delhi. 4. Akshya proposed to take care of Gurgaon. Please don't comment on this thread for CD distribution discussion, starting a separate thread for CD Distribution discussion. Ajay, Please don't quote a full post when replying to e-mails on the list. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: Fwd: [ilugd] linux recompile error
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From: Eugene Teo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Manoj Thakkar (WT01 - EMBEDDED
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [ilugd] linux recompile error
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Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:35:55 +0530
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ilugd] linux recompile error
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was trying to recompile my kernel with some of my system calls
It was failing at make modules some atm drivers
I rebooted the machine but then it started giving abnormal behaviour
on
checking I found whole lot of files missing from /lib/modules/kernel
shouldn't it be /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel?
Manoj thts true its lib/modules/linu-2.4.2/kernel only sorry typo
error
I tried repairing/upgrading the OS using the cd but no luck . is there
any other way nfs is also not working so I can't copy the stuff from
anyother system.
Manoj
The Pc doesn't have the cd drive so can't copy the kernel tarball anyway
thts why I was looking for nfs to work so that I can copy it from any
other place infact mount is not working so not left with any choice what
if I try make -k maodules will it be of any help .
The kernel is as I said above 2.4.2 I just put a .c .h file with there
appropriate entries in entry.S unistd.h is there something I am doing
wrong Kindly suggest
is it possible for you to get a current/latest kernel tarball,
and do a recompilation this way? also, why is it failing to make
modules? are you using 2.4 or 2.6? could it be because you are
trying to install 2.6 kernel, and you don't have module-init-tools
installed? what is the kernel you are using? not very clear here.
settle your problem, before approaching to fix nfs.
Eugene
Kindly assist
Thanks Best Regards
Manoj Thakkar
Thanks Best Regards
Manoj Thakkar
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[ilugd] Fedora Bug
hi all, According to this[1] entry in the Fedora bugzilla, Fedora will not boot to windows partition using grub menu. 1 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 Cheers! Pankaj -- ( 2b || !2b) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: An invitation to blog
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: Interested persons can provide RSS feeds of their blogs. But please do use the ones on Rediff. You meant do not use rediff blogs or was it as above. -Tarun -- What!? Me worry? -- Alfred E. Newman ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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[ilugd] Developers meet (announcement)
Hi! Guyz, Developers meet was concluded successfully at sarai last sunday. Next developers meet will be conducted on 27th june 2004 at sarai from 2 pm onwards. The theme of the meet is Testing. Developers meet will be conducted on 4th sunday of the month for the foreseeable future. Regards VK PS: I expecting some one from the attendees to post the minutes of meetings ( u need of 20Gb of ram in you to remember all the discussions) = I was born Intelligent, but EDUCATION Ruined me. Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
