Re: [ilugd] A idea can change our Life..... --Important
in infinite wisdom Gaurav Mishra spoke thus on 04/28/05 05:43: Hi all, When i say to someone about the LUG or meeting , a common windows user or Layman who just used linux for sake of trying, say`s what will happen at LUG meeting. if u tell him about the talk he will say are yaar net pe saab milta hai. We should give them strong reason to come to LUG and Supprt Linux.And Job is the Golden Word for a Student. Evolution of a Linux User http://humorix.org/articles/1999/11/user-evolution/ I would say you are at stage 7. :-) Why are you worried that there are fewer users of Linux ? Quite a lot of clueful people have migrated to Linux, those who have not, well they are paying the price in terms of loss of productivity. Why really we are not having the support from the guys who are most experimenting, the college students. Because in today scenario, It is really difficult to get his own living. And from my past experience i was not fully able to convince them to bet their future on open source. As far as supporting the student community goes, Delhi LUG held a Linux demo day in Jamia Hamdard --- if you are so inclined maybe you can volunteer to organize another one at some other college ? -- Raj Shekhar Y! : Operations Engineer MySQL DBA, programmer and slacker Y!IM : lunatech3007 home : http://rajshekhar.net blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] A idea can change our Life..... --Important
Raj shekhar wrote: Quite a lot of clueful people have migrated to Linux, those who have not, well they are paying the price in terms of loss of productivity. Well there are some clueless people too who changed to linux :-D regards ram Why really we are not having the support from the guys who are most experimenting, the college students. Because in today scenario, It is really difficult to get his own living. And from my past experience i was not fully able to convince them to bet their future on open source. As far as supporting the student community goes, Delhi LUG held a Linux demo day in Jamia Hamdard --- if you are so inclined maybe you can volunteer to organize another one at some other college ? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
Evening Ram, Its easy. Check with these fileds in header of email. Message-ID, References, In-Reply-To. Regards, Animesh. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
Sounds like a spam! The spammer initiates this and the mail tells to forward it to 10 people... All these 10 will again forward it causing a chain reaction. Ajay ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
On Thu, April 28, 2005 15:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer child, Forwarded by her Doc. After the poem is a statement that says all the mails forwarded are tracked and for every new receipient 3 cents is added towards the treatment of cancer. The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and if someone decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be tracked - ?? it can't be tracked. just a normal forward similar to those which say - if yu don't forward it to 20 people then yu'll lose your job or anything unpleasant. otherwise there's no way of tracking the emails like this, specially if Bcc:ed except if the mail is an html mail and using web beacons which is highly unlikely o--o | vivek * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://exain.net | |Registered Linux User: #305493| o--o ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies Dear All I have a BPL monitor. This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose 800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with fedora core 3 installation where Compaq HP monitor are being auto detected working fine. As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency. There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client. Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose? Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)? Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please suggest way to do so. Any advice url pointer will be ppreciated. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync values. Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is named as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory. -Subhasis On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies Dear All I have a BPL monitor. This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose 800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with fedora core 3 installation where Compaq HP monitor are being auto detected working fine. As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency. There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client. Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose? Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)? Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please suggest way to do so. Any advice url pointer will be ppreciated. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
Yes thats what I though - I tried seeing the headers but am not really confident of understanding everything written there anyway it was a poem written by a terminally ill patient - and they were not asking for much ? thanks ram vivek wrote: On Thu, April 28, 2005 15:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer child, Forwarded by her Doc. After the poem is a statement that says all the mails forwarded are tracked and for every new receipient 3 cents is added towards the treatment of cancer. The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and if someone decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be tracked - ?? it can't be tracked. just a normal forward similar to those which say - if yu don't forward it to 20 people then yu'll lose your job or anything unpleasant. otherwise there's no way of tracking the emails like this, specially if Bcc:ed except if the mail is an html mail and using web beacons which is highly unlikely o--o | vivek * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://exain.net | |Registered Linux User: #305493| o--o ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
Thanks Subhasis Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15 monitors. May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can be configured. On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync values. Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is named as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory. -Subhasis On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies Dear All I have a BPL monitor. This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose 800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with fedora core 3 installation where Compaq HP monitor are being auto detected working fine. As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency. There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client. Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose? Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)? Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please suggest way to do so. Any advice url pointer will be ppreciated. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Anyone has RHEL4?
Hi! Does anyone staying in/around Delhi have RHEL 4 WS/ES/AS? If so, may I make a copy of it? Thx in advance John ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530
Hello, I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop (D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro); XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the right drivers/pointers for this? I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-( please help ! Thanks, Andy ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Anyone has RHEL4?
AFAIK you cannot make copies of RHEL operating systems.. for all most cases for RHEL and compatible systems you can use centos( http://www.centos.org/ ) cheers vivek On 4/28/05, John Marder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Does anyone staying in/around Delhi have RHEL 4 WS/ES/AS? If so, may I make a copy of it? Thx in advance John ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
Hi Thomas, I am not infront of a FC3 install. but what i can remember, if u type setup at the # prompt, u will see a X Configuration menu.. try that... in the mean time lemme reach home and send u the exact command. Cheers Subhasis On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Subhasis Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15 monitors. May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can be configured. On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync values. Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is named as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory. -Subhasis On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies Dear All I have a BPL monitor. This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose 800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with fedora core 3 installation where Compaq HP monitor are being auto detected working fine. As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency. There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client. Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose? Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)? Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please suggest way to do so. Any advice url pointer will be ppreciated. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
What is the make/model of the BPL monitor... I think you can find the Hsync and Vsync after some googling... also post your Xorg.conf here...? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Subhasis Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15 monitors. May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can be configured. /usr/bin/system-config-display Ajay ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies
Hi, On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not infront of a FC3 install. but what i can remember, if u type setup at the # prompt, u will see a X Configuration menu.. try that... in the mean time lemme reach home and send u the exact command. On my Gentoo, i have the following packages to configure Xorg xorgcfg xorgconfig BTW, try searching google, i'm sure, u'll get all the pointers you may need. -- regards, makuchaku --- http://makuchaku.blogspot.com Linux... Life... Freedom... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Debian Unstable CD
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:36:34AM +0530, gaurav wrote: Hi Guys, I am planning to migrate my comp at home to debian Unstable (from fedora) and latter on all my development servers in office (to Debian Testing) if anybody has Debian Unstable cd's or dvd and is willing lend it (or even sell them) pl let me know :-) I am having testing version 14 CDS ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Official Snapshot i386 Generated on April 19 2005 With regards M.Balakrishna Pillai ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530
Andy, FC3 is recognizing the card correctly as Analog Devices AC97 because the card on ur system is SoundMax Digital AC97. Do the following: In /etc/modprobe.conf load the snd-intel8x0 alsa module. In /etc/hotplug/blacklist add snd-intel8x0 to the list of drivers to not hotplug. Save the changes, reboot, and then turn up the volume in the Gnome volume control and you should hear the soundcard working. Regards George Joseph On 4/28/05, Anand Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop (D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro); XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the right drivers/pointers for this? I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-( please help ! Thanks, Andy ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ram == ramnarayan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ram Hi I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer Ram child, Forwarded by her Doc. After the poem is a statement Ram that says all the mails forwarded are tracked and for every Ram new receipient 3 cents is added towards the treatment of Ram cancer. Ram The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and Ram if someone decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be Ram tracked - ?? Ram I guess this question is not pure linux but decided to pose Ram it anyway. 1. The e-mails can't be tracked. 2. Ignore the message. This mail is a really, really old rip-off. There's no child dying of cancer (well, at least, not the putative one referred to in the e-mail) and no one's paying money to save her. 3. In general, ignore messages that: - - Purport to be from Mrs Mariam Abacha or one of her clones that need to transfer funds out of Korea/Nigeria/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc. - - Tell you that you have won the lotto. - - Ask you to confirm your online banking details. - - Offer Winduhs software or Viagra clones at low rates. - - Offer millions of e-mail addresses for marketing. - - Contain ``Microsoft patches''. In a nutshell, ignore everything that isn't PGP-signed by me ;-) Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCcRkJyWjQ78xo0X8RAm8iAJ9XBzD9jGcKmtYgyXdROhlEIUoxNgCff873 CIHh4MLgKR5DXWJezbGfOeE= =Sl5L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530
Boss, You remain as awesome as ever :-) .. twas the volume settings that needed tweaking. Thanks On 4/28/05, George Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, FC3 is recognizing the card correctly as Analog Devices AC97 because the card on ur system is SoundMax Digital AC97. Do the following: In /etc/modprobe.conf load the snd-intel8x0 alsa module. In /etc/hotplug/blacklist add snd-intel8x0 to the list of drivers to not hotplug. Save the changes, reboot, and then turn up the volume in the Gnome volume control and you should hear the soundcard working. Regards George Joseph On 4/28/05, Anand Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop (D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro); XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the right drivers/pointers for this? I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-( please help ! Thanks, Andy ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
Know thy spammers: http://www.iimcal.ac.in/imz/article.asp?code=mar_04_2 The lighter side of spam mail: http://www.mail-archive.com/saligaonet@goacom.com/msg00587.html Ajay ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/28/2005 10:40 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: n general, ignore messages that: | | - Purport to be from Mrs Mariam Abacha or one of her clones that need | to transfer funds out of Korea/Nigeria/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc. | Add another one, got an email this morning from the Yukos Oil company in Russia, $450 million. Not worth the effort :). - - Ankur. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCcbTdbR7mO5apBYARAlkiAKDCmuys6cFJvQDVDVsfW8tjp9xwSwCgj4D2 dHcsgTUSDBEjhScIz4Vl+d8= =PYVy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/