Re: [ilugd] A idea can change our Life..... --Important

2005-04-28 Thread Raj shekhar
in infinite wisdom Gaurav Mishra spoke thus on 04/28/05 05:43:
 Hi all,
   When i say to someone about the LUG or meeting , a common
 windows user or  Layman who just used linux for sake of trying, say`s
 what will happen at LUG meeting. if u tell him about the talk  he will
 say  are yaar net pe saab milta hai. We should give them strong
 reason to come to LUG and Supprt Linux.And Job is the Golden Word for a 
 Student.

Evolution of a Linux User 
http://humorix.org/articles/1999/11/user-evolution/ I would say you are 
at stage 7.  :-)

Why are you worried that there are fewer users of Linux ?  Quite a lot 
of clueful people have migrated to Linux, those who have not, well they 
are paying the price in terms of loss of productivity.


 Why really we are not having the support from the guys who
 are most experimenting, the college students. Because in today
 scenario, It is really difficult to get his own living. And from my
 past experience i was not fully able to convince them to bet their
 future on open source.

As far as supporting the student community goes,  Delhi LUG held a Linux 
demo day in Jamia Hamdard --- if you are so inclined maybe you can 
volunteer to organize another one at some other college ?


-- 
Raj Shekhar  Y! : Operations Engineer
MySQL DBA, programmer and  slacker   Y!IM : lunatech3007
home : http://rajshekhar.net blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog/

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Re: [ilugd] A idea can change our Life..... --Important

2005-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Raj shekhar wrote:

 Quite a lot  of clueful people have migrated to Linux, those who have not, 
 well they 
are paying the price in terms of loss of productivity.

  

Well there are some clueless people too who changed to linux :-D

regards
ram

  

Why really we are not having the support from the guys who
are most experimenting, the college students. Because in today
scenario, It is really difficult to get his own living. And from my
past experience i was not fully able to convince them to bet their
future on open source.



As far as supporting the student community goes,  Delhi LUG held a Linux 
demo day in Jamia Hamdard --- if you are so inclined maybe you can 
volunteer to organize another one at some other college ?


  

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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread Animesh Singh
Evening Ram,

Its easy. Check with these  fileds in header of email.

Message-ID, References, In-Reply-To.

Regards,
Animesh.

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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread Ajay Mulwani
Sounds like a spam!

The spammer initiates this and the mail tells to forward it to 10
people... All these 10 will again forward it causing a chain reaction.

Ajay

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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread vivek
On Thu, April 28, 2005 15:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


 Hi
 I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer child, Forwarded by
 her Doc. After the poem is a statement that says all the mails forwarded
 are tracked and for every new receipient 3 cents is added towards the
 treatment of cancer.

 The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and if someone
 decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be tracked - ??


it can't be tracked. just a normal forward similar to those which say - if
yu don't forward it to 20 people then yu'll lose your job or anything
unpleasant.

otherwise there's no way of tracking the emails like this, specially if
Bcc:ed except if the mail is an html mail and using web beacons which is
highly unlikely

o--o
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[ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread thomas
query about monitor horizontal  vertical frequencies 
Dear All
I have a BPL monitor.
This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose
800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with
fedora core 3 installation where Compaq  HP monitor are being auto
detected  working fine.
As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency.
There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client.
Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one
suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose?
Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor
(ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)?
Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived
with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc.  Please
suggest way to do so.

Any advice  url pointer will be ppreciated.

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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread Subhasis Ray
Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync values. 
Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is named 
as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory.

-Subhasis

On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 query about monitor horizontal  vertical frequencies
 Dear All
 I have a BPL monitor.
 This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose
 800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with
 fedora core 3 installation where Compaq  HP monitor are being auto
 detected  working fine.
 As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency.
 There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client.
 Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one
 suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose?
 Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor
 (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)?
 Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived
 with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please
 suggest way to do so.
 
 Any advice  url pointer will be ppreciated.
 
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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes thats what I though -
I tried seeing the headers but am not really confident of understanding 
everything written there

anyway it was a poem written by a terminally ill patient - and they were 
not asking for much ?

thanks
ram

vivek wrote:

On Thu, April 28, 2005 15:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  

Hi
I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer child, Forwarded by
her Doc. After the poem is a statement that says all the mails forwarded
are tracked and for every new receipient 3 cents is added towards the
treatment of cancer.

The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and if someone
decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be tracked - ??




it can't be tracked. just a normal forward similar to those which say - if
yu don't forward it to 20 people then yu'll lose your job or anything
unpleasant.

otherwise there's no way of tracking the emails like this, specially if
Bcc:ed except if the mail is an html mail and using web beacons which is
highly unlikely

o--o
| vivek  *  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *  http://exain.net |
|Registered Linux User: #305493|
o--o


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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread thomas
Thanks Subhasis
Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu
store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or
frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15  monitors.
May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can
be configured.

On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync values.
 Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is named
 as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory.
  
  -Subhasis
 
 
 On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  query about monitor horizontal  vertical frequencies
  Dear All
  I have a BPL monitor.
  This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose
  800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with 
  fedora core 3 installation where Compaq  HP monitor are being auto
  detected  working fine.
  As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency.
  There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client. 
  Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one
  suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose?
  Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor
  (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)? 
  Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived
  with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc.  Please
  suggest way to do so.
  
  Any advice  url pointer will be ppreciated. 
  
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[ilugd] Anyone has RHEL4?

2005-04-28 Thread John Marder
Hi!

Does anyone staying in/around Delhi have RHEL 4 WS/ES/AS? If so, may I
make a copy of it?

Thx in advance

John

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[ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530

2005-04-28 Thread Anand Kapoor
Hello, 

I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop
(D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro);
XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything
alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the
right drivers/pointers for this?

I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-(
please help !

Thanks, 

Andy

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Re: [ilugd] Anyone has RHEL4?

2005-04-28 Thread vivek v
AFAIK you cannot make copies of RHEL operating systems.. for all most
cases for RHEL and compatible systems you can use centos( 
http://www.centos.org/ )
cheers 
vivek

On 4/28/05, John Marder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Does anyone staying in/around Delhi have RHEL 4 WS/ES/AS? If so, may I
 make a copy of it?
 
 Thx in advance
 
 John
 
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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread Subhasis Ray
Hi Thomas,

I am not infront of a FC3 install. but what i can remember, if u type 
setup at the # prompt, u will see a X Configuration menu.. try that... 
in the mean time lemme reach home and send u the exact command.

Cheers

Subhasis

On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks Subhasis
 Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu
 store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or
 frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15 monitors.
 May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can
 be configured.
 
 On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Check the manual for the monitor, u will find the HSync and VSync 
 values.
  Further in FC3, XF86Config is no longer available. The config file is 
 named
  as xorg.conf and resides in the same /etc/X11 directory.
 
  -Subhasis
 
 
  On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   query about monitor horizontal  vertical frequencies
   Dear All
   I have a BPL monitor.
   This monitor work fine with a ready made thin client when I choose
   800x600-60 monitor setting. But same monitor is not working with
   fedora core 3 installation where Compaq  HP monitor are being auto
   detected  working fine.
   As I know here 60 means 60 Hz vertical frequency.
   There is no setting to choose vertical frequency in this thin-client.
   Q1- Since I have to make this monitor work with FC3, may any one
   suggest what horizontal frequency I have to choose?
   Q2- Any generic type of setting that can work for any monitor
   (ofcourse it will not utilize maximum of monitor)?
   Q3- We are not able to find any configuration utility in FC3 (recived
   with LFY magz) for X Server e.g XFree86Setop, XF86Config etc. Please
   suggest way to do so.
  
   Any advice  url pointer will be ppreciated.
  
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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread Ankit Malik
What is the make/model of the BPL monitor... I think you can find the Hsync 
and Vsync after some googling... also post your Xorg.conf here...?
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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread Ajay Mulwani
On 4/28/05, thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Subhasis
 Unfortunately I am not able to trace out manual of monitor from mu
 store. Thats why I wish to know any generic type of frequency (or
 frequence range) for horizontal and vertical refresh of 15  monitors.
 May you suggest any utility available in FC3 thru which X Server can
 be configured.
 

/usr/bin/system-config-display

Ajay

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Re: [ilugd] query about monitor horizontal vertical frequencies

2005-04-28 Thread Mayank Jain
Hi,

On 4/28/05, Subhasis Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not infront of a FC3 install. but what i can remember, if u type
 setup at the # prompt, u will see a X Configuration menu.. try that...
 in the mean time lemme reach home and send u the exact command.

On my Gentoo, i have the following packages to configure Xorg
xorgcfg
xorgconfig

BTW, try searching google, i'm sure, u'll get all the pointers you may need.

-- 
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Re: [ilugd] Debian Unstable CD

2005-04-28 Thread M.Balakrishna Pillai
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:36:34AM +0530, gaurav wrote:
 Hi Guys,
   I am planning to migrate my comp at home to debian 
 Unstable (from fedora) and latter on all my development servers in 
 office (to Debian Testing)
  if anybody has Debian Unstable cd's or dvd and is willing lend it  (or 
 even sell them) pl let me know :-)

I am having testing version 14 CDS 
ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Official Snapshot i386
Generated on April 19 2005


With regards

M.Balakrishna Pillai



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Re: [ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530

2005-04-28 Thread George Joseph
Andy,

FC3 is recognizing the card correctly as Analog Devices AC97 because
the card on ur system is SoundMax Digital AC97.

Do the following:

In /etc/modprobe.conf load the snd-intel8x0 alsa module. 
In /etc/hotplug/blacklist add snd-intel8x0 to the list of drivers to
not hotplug.

Save the changes, reboot, and then turn up the volume in the Gnome
volume control and you should hear the soundcard working.

Regards

George Joseph



On 4/28/05, Anand Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop
 (D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro);
 XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything
 alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the
 right drivers/pointers for this?
 
 I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-(
 please help !
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andy
 
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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

 Ram == ramnarayan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ram Hi I received a mail today from a terminally ill cancer
Ram child, Forwarded by her Doc. After the poem is a statement
Ram that says all the mails forwarded are tracked and for every
Ram new receipient 3 cents is added towards the treatment of
Ram cancer.

Ram The question I have is - how can the mails be tracked ?? and
Ram if someone decides to forward copies as BCC how would they be
Ram tracked - ??

Ram I guess this question is not pure linux but decided to pose
Ram it anyway.

1. The e-mails can't be tracked.

2. Ignore the message.  This mail is a really, really old rip-off.
There's no child dying of cancer (well, at least, not the putative one
referred to in the e-mail) and no one's paying money to save her.

3. In general, ignore messages that:

- - Purport to be from Mrs Mariam Abacha or one of her clones that need
to transfer funds out of Korea/Nigeria/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc.

- - Tell you that you have won the lotto.

- - Ask you to confirm your online banking details.

- - Offer Winduhs software or Viagra clones at low rates.

- - Offer millions of e-mail addresses for marketing.

- - Contain ``Microsoft patches''.

In a nutshell, ignore everything that isn't PGP-signed by me ;-)

Regards,

- -- Raju
- -- 
Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://kandalaya.org/
   GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5  0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F
  It is the mind that moves
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Re: [ilugd] Get the sound card right on a HP-Compaq D530

2005-04-28 Thread Anand Kapoor
Boss,

You remain as awesome as ever :-) .. twas the volume settings that
needed tweaking.

Thanks 

On 4/28/05, George Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andy,
 
 FC3 is recognizing the card correctly as Analog Devices AC97 because
 the card on ur system is SoundMax Digital AC97.
 
 Do the following:
 
 In /etc/modprobe.conf load the snd-intel8x0 alsa module.
 In /etc/hotplug/blacklist add snd-intel8x0 to the list of drivers to
 not hotplug.
 
 Save the changes, reboot, and then turn up the volume in the Gnome
 volume control and you should hear the soundcard working.
 
 Regards
 
 George Joseph
 
 
 On 4/28/05, Anand Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have a HP-Compaq Business Desktop d530 Ultra-slim Desktop
  (D530U/P2.8/40bn/256D/4) running Fedora Core 3 (and Windows XP Pro);
  XP recognises the sound card chip as SoundMax and plays everything
  alright; however FC3 reads it as an ADI AC97 ; does anybody have the
  right drivers/pointers for this?
 
  I need to stick to FC3 but i can't focus on work without music :-(
  please help !
 
  Thanks,
 
  Andy
 
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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread Ajay Mulwani
Know thy spammers:
http://www.iimcal.ac.in/imz/article.asp?code=mar_04_2

The lighter side of spam mail:
http://www.mail-archive.com/saligaonet@goacom.com/msg00587.html

Ajay

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Re: [ilugd] Mail Tracking

2005-04-28 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
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On 04/28/2005 10:40 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:
n general, ignore messages that:
|
| - Purport to be from Mrs Mariam Abacha or one of her clones that need
| to transfer funds out of Korea/Nigeria/Iraq/Afghanistan/etc.
|

Add another one, got an email this morning from the Yukos Oil company in
Russia, $450 million. Not worth the effort :).
- - Ankur.
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