Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: Lawrence Lessig on How it All Began

[Sudev Barar]

On 10/14/05, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 14 Oct 2005 12:39 am, Linux Lingam wrote:
> > er.. that's a wrong statement. even western civilization did not
> > initially have a proprietary culture.
>
> ever heard of guilds? all specialised knowledge has all along been
> closed source proprietory knowledge of closed groups - penalty for
> transgression was usually death or worse.

Is it not utopian to expect that people in the past were all pure
hearted and shared everything (no evil thoughts...hehehe...)?
Knowledge is power and social relationships are defined by power.
Guilds, Rajahs, Mathematecian (read history of pythagorus), 
all indulged in power and control. Rebels through the history rose
against this (establishment) and forged new paths and thoughts. But
these breakaways also fell into the same trap sooner or later. Power
corrupted even the idealist society of Karl Marx dreams!
Having said that (and becoming self proclaimed rebel) there are large
tracts of knowledge that are now open and shared, more we can expand
this domian better the world shall be. Ideals need to be cherished.
Long live FLOSS!!
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Re: [ilugd] 17" plasma/lcd monitor recommendations

[Gora Mohanty]

--- Mithun Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Also fast moving images dont render too well on a
> TFT unless you are ready to sell your kingdom for it
> :).

Raj has a kingdom? Damn, I should have been nicer to
him.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: Lawrence Lessig on How it All Began

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 14 Oct 2005 12:39 am, Linux Lingam wrote:
> er.. that's a wrong statement. even western civilization did not
> initially have a proprietary culture.

ever heard of guilds? all specialised knowledge has all along been 
closed source proprietory knowledge of closed groups - penalty for 
transgression was usually death or worse.

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Re: [ilugd] Linux India Help

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 14 Oct 2005 12:36 am, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> I hope one among you is the moderator for Linux India Help ML.
>
> Why does it take too long for a message (at least for me) to get
> posted on the Linux India Help ML ?
> I've been noticing this for quite sometime. Is it a moderated list ?

i think it is a sourceforge list - in which case delays are common
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Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 14 Oct 2005 9:31 am, Subhasis Ray wrote:
> yes Komal, I did read the question, and thats the reason I said I am
> not sure.
>
> I do not know if SELinux is available for mandrake. Was just trying
> to relate my experiences.

selinux is not running - symlinks work fine outside apache on the 
mandrake box
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Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks

[Subhasis Ray]

yes Komal, I did read the question, and thats the reason I said I am not
sure.

I do not know if SELinux is available for mandrake. Was just trying to
relate my experiences.


Regards

Subhasis

On 10/13/05, Komal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Subhasis Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am not sure, but just check if you dont have SELinux running I
> had a
> > problem with symlinks and SELinux in FC3 Just guessing... :)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Subhasis
> >
>
> Subhasis, Did you read Kenneth question thoroughly? He made it amply
> clear that he is using Mandrake and FreeBSD. Tell me how your answer
> can remotely help him. SELinux is only available on RHEl 4.0 and FC 3
> and FC4.
>
> Regards,
>
> Komal
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Re: [ilugd] unable to connect to qmail smtp server

[Raj Shekhar]

in infinite wisdom loving linux spoke thus  On 10/13/2005 01:28 PM:
> 
> 192.168.1.XYZ is the internal IP of the machine.
> Now when i telnet the smtp i got this error:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# telnet localhost 25
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
> Escape character is '^]'.
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> 

I have not used qmail, but postfix.  Have you checked the log files ?
Increase the debugging level and then try running it.  Another option
would be to start it in non-daemon mode and then running the checks.

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Re: [ilugd] long ILUG meet in the Himalaya changed title

[Sudev Barar]

On 10/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux Lingam wrote:
>
> > er winters in himalayas is not a low-season but a high-season. lots of
> > folks wanna see and play with snow. most schools and colleges have a short
> > winter break. the tourists season is buzzing at that time. you need to plan
> > early, book early, and know your way around to get those exceptional
> > discounts.
> >
> > but then maybe i'm wrong. maybe not.
>
> In the context of the ILUG - D meet in the Himalaya - Novemeber is
> really not snow season - unless one goes high up. But it is still not
> low season - every   one seems to have holidays during those days.
> Reservations will need to be done *now*

The process of vote was for a week. In three (four?) days only three
four ppl have expressed interest. At this rate no booking in needed!
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[ilugd] long ILUG meet in the Himalaya changed title

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Linux Lingam wrote:

> er winters in himalayas is not a low-season but a high-season. lots of
> folks wanna see and play with snow. most schools and colleges have a short
> winter break. the tourists season is buzzing at that time. you need to plan
> early, book early, and know your way around to get those exceptional
> discounts.
> 
> but then maybe i'm wrong. maybe not.

In the context of the ILUG - D meet in the Himalaya - Novemeber is 
really not snow season - unless one goes high up. But it is still not 
low season - every   one seems to have holidays during those days. 
Reservations will need to be done *now*

ram
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Re: [ilugd] Linux India Help

[Raj Mathur]

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> "Ritesh" == Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ritesh> I hope one among you is the moderator for Linux India Help
Ritesh> ML.

Nope, LIH doesn't have moderators, only administrators.  I'm one of
them, Devdas Bhagat is the other.  And this question could easily have
been asked on the LIH list itself.

Ritesh> Why does it take too long for a message (at least for me)
Ritesh> to get posted on the Linux India Help ML ?  I've been
Ritesh> noticing this for quite sometime. Is it a moderated list ?

Message delivery times vary depending on any combination of:

- - The load at the sourceforge.net servers
- - Your own network
- - The load on and availability of your own mail server
- - Whether you're posting from a known address or not
- - Sheer bloody-mindedness of the Internet

The one thing delivery periods do NOT depend on is moderation,
since...

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Re: [ilugd] long BLUG meet outside Bangalore.

[Linux Lingam]

[snip]
>
>
> > But, the Himalayas in winter?
>
> Yep, that is when you get max discounts. And of course your fav brew
> to keep company sounds even more fun!!



er winters in himalayas is not a low-season but a high-season. lots of
folks wanna see and play with snow. most schools and colleges have a short
winter break. the tourists season is buzzing at that time. you need to plan
early, book early, and know your way around to get those exceptional
discounts.

but then maybe i'm wrong. maybe not.

:-)
niyam
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[ilugd] Linux India Help

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

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I hope one among you is the moderator for Linux India Help ML.

Why does it take too long for a message (at least for me) to get posted on
the Linux India Help ML ?
I've been noticing this for quite sometime. Is it a moderated list ?

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: Lawrence Lessig on How it All Began

[Linux Lingam]

[snip]
>
>
>
> Actually the culture was proprietary, not because of copyright but
> because of difficulty of reproduction. Books could not be copied (or
> only copied laboriously), music could not be taped and software didn't
> exist. The only thing that was ``non-proprietary'' earlier was the
> oral culture and better methods of growing wheat :)
>
> Regards,
>
> - -- Raju



er.. that's a wrong statement. even western civilization did not initially
have a proprietary culture. for instance, the phoenicians gave the greeks
the alphabet freely, even if for commerce. the romans took it further. the
greek, roman, and the post-roman empires such as the ottomon empire thrived
on cultural cross-pollination. the ottomon empire, founded circa at the fall
of constantinople, survived till the early part of the 20th century.

the great italian renaissance was greatly influenced by the influx of
fleeing greek and other scholars from constantinople, blending
middle-eastern knowledge, science, maths, arts and mysticism with western
traditions. newton did not have 'proprietory' rights over his laws and
equations. he published them to share them. even earlier, leonardo di vinci
did not have proprietory rights over his inventions and genius. the
gregorian chants also had a similar orientation.

move from western civilization to the far-east. in india you find a strong
culture of sharing, down from buddhism being shared across the far-east by
travelling monks and saints, to the precious knowledge of ayurveda shared
with the rising civilization of tibet, and allowed to fork into tibetan
buddhism.

vandana shiva would have a whole earful on how agricultural communities and
tribes through the centuries till modern-day have been non-proprietory.

i made a surprising discovery recently. while reading an insightful book on
mysticism and philosophy, i stumbled across a paragraph that mentioned that
the concept of 'ownership' itself, is a recent phenomenon in human society
and culture. the concept of ownership arose with the rising concept of
'fatherhood'. shocking as it may seem, tribal civilizations do not have a
socially-defined concept of fatherhood. only motherhood. plato and socrates
also mention this. even today you can find whole tribes in africa, and even
in india, where communities only have the concept of motherhood, and even
the biological father is often unknown. such tribal communities suffer less
from modern-day neurotic problems, and the concept of 'property' is
different from ours, where everything is shared by the community as a tribe.

sure, we can laugh at them. and they can laugh at us. maybe they are going
to have the last laugh.

imo, the current western civilization is at the other extreme. it would take
decades and possibly a whole century before the wheel turns again. by that
time we'd all be dead.

so while alive, in the meantime, i'm using gnulinux, supporting
creativecommons, and composing unplugged music on my guitar.

n
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Re: [ilugd] 17" plasma/lcd monitor recommendations

[Mithun Bhattacharya]

I have a DELL UltraSharp 1704 which gives me 1280x1024 @ 32 bit color
according to windows ..

I dont think you will find a 17" TFT which gives you 1400x1050
resolution.

Also this LG of yours is a TFT or a CRT ? I am surprised to hear you
are getting 1400x1050 on a 17"CRT - arent they equal to a 15" display
area ?

Do note a TFT will always give lesser resolution compared to a equal
viewable area CRT. Also fast moving images dont render too well on a
TFT unless you are ready to sell your kingdom for it :).


Mithun

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> 
> Was thinking of going in for a 17" plasma/lcd/tft monitor since my
> current 17" LG is about end of life, and worse, I can barely read
> what's on it :)
> 
> Any recommendations for one which isn't mind-blowingly expensive and
> gives a decent resolution?  I'm currently using 1400x1050 at 24bit
> colour, and would like to have at least that much resolution
> available
> in the new monitor too.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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[ilugd] (fwd) "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" in one PDF file

[Raj Mathur]

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[ilugd] Fwd: ILUG-D: Contact Us

[Nishikant Kapoor]

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Subject: ILUG-D: Contact Us
Date: Thursday 13 October 2005 02:39 am
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Message from Shekhar Juneja:

Hi,
I am big follower of open source community so much so I have started my own
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 Since I owe lots to open source community I would like to support the
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: Lawrence Lessig on How it All Began

[Raj Mathur]

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> "Niyam" == Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Niyam> [huge snip]

>> The story with culture is somewhat different. We didn't begin
>> with a world without proprietary culture. Instead, there has
>> always been proprietary culture �meaning work protected by an
>> exclusive right.  [huge snip]

Niyam> "there has always been proprietary culture" is TOTAL
Niyam> BULLSHIT.  not even in the west was this true in history.

Niyam> copyright is a recent phenomenon just a few centuries old.
Niyam> didn't expect lawrence lessig to make such a goof!

Actually the culture was proprietary, not because of copyright but
because of difficulty of reproduction.  Books could not be copied (or
only copied laboriously), music could not be taped and software didn't
exist.  The only thing that was ``non-proprietary'' earlier was the
oral culture and better methods of growing wheat :)

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Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks

[Komal]

- Original Message -
From: "Subhasis Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks


> Hi,
>
> I am not sure, but just check if you dont have SELinux running I
had a
> problem with symlinks and SELinux in FC3 Just guessing... :)
>
> Regards
>
> Subhasis
>

Subhasis, Did you read Kenneth  question thoroughly? He made it amply
clear that he is using Mandrake and FreeBSD. Tell me how your answer
can remotely help him. SELinux is only available on RHEl 4.0 and FC 3
and FC4.

Regards,

Komal


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Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks

[Subhasis Ray]

Hi,

I am not sure, but just check if you dont have SELinux running I had a
problem with symlinks and SELinux in FC3 Just guessing... :)

Regards

Subhasis

On 10/12/05, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi,
> i am running django on two boxen, one mandrake10 and the other freebsd.
> Both run on apache2+mod_python. The media for the web app (css, images,
> js) is served from a directory on /home. This directory is symlinked to
> the main python site-packages directory. The freebsd install runs
> perfectly. On mandrake, apache2 cant access the media saying 'symlinks
> not allowed'. The httpd.conf files are identical in the the two
> installs. In the mandrake install, when the real path is given there is
> no problem. Even if i put 'Options +FollowSymLinks' in the mandrake
> install the same problem arises. Cannot find anything in httpd2.conf or
> httpdcommon.conf which is barring symlinks. Any clues?
> --
> regards
> kg
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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Nishant Sharma]

--- Nishant Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> By the way, what is SDL?

It is Simple DirectMedia Layer :-)

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Nishant Sharma]

Hi Gora,

--- Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   From the looks of it, the font is not being
> rendered correctly, i.e., the renderer lacks Unicode
> or OpenType support.

> the UI needs to support Unicode and OpenType. From
> the list of dependencies you had for tuxpaint, I
> cannot figure out what is actually doing the
> on-screen
> rendering of the interface. SDL? In that case, it
> would boil down to Unicode support in SDL. Didn't


I am not sure whether it used to work properly with
older versions or not. I think Ankit/Bill should be
able to let us know that. 

By the way, what is SDL?

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[ilugd] More Hindi Translations!!!

[Ankit Malik]

Hi

The other day TUX PAINT Hindi Translations wanted volunteer(s) and ILUGD
came to the rescue. So if the volunteers are game for some more
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/hi

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 13 Oct 2005 1:39 pm, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> > http://nishants.net/hindi/tuxpaint.html
>
> [...]
>
> link.broken
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Re: [ilugd] long BLUG meet outside Bangalore.

[Sudev Barar]

On 10/13/05, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2B (Himalayas) sounds good. Where is da Pole on the
> linux-delhi site? Is vote-rigging allowed? Encouraged?
> But, the Himalayas in winter?

Yep, that is when you get max discounts. And of course your fav brew
to keep company sounds even more fun!!

Rig away.

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Nishant Sharma]

--- Guntupalli Karunakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ya its using Raghu, try with Gargi 

I don't have Raghu on my machine but Gargi and Lohit.
This snap is from Bill's machine.

> seems there is problem with conjuncts, will have to
> see what toolkit
> tuxpaint is using.  gtk2.x & qt 3.2.x or above work
Following is from apt-cache show tuxpaint:

Depends: tuxpaint-data (>= 1:0.9.14), libc6 (>=
2.3.2.ds1-4), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel),
libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.3), libsdl-mixer1.2 (>=
1.2.6), libsdl-ttf2.0-0, libsdl1.2debian (>>
1.2.7+1.2.8), libvorbis0a (>= 1.0.0-2), libvorbisfile3
(>= 1.0.0-2), netpbm

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Guntupalli Karunakar]

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:55:46 +0100 (BST)
Nishant Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I've translated some strings for Tuxpaint. I am
> running Debian Sarge updated till date with
> ttf-devanagari-fonts and kde-i18n-hi packages
> installed. 
> 
> Here is the screenshot of the interface:
> 
> http://nishants.net/hindi/tuxpaint.html
> 
> As you can see, fonts are not being rendered correctly
> in case of "Matra" and "ardha-akshar". Where could be
> the issue?
> 
> According to Bill Kendrick, who wrote the software:
> 
> 
> Hrm, FYI the font we're using right now is:
> "Raghu" (also called "Raghindi"),
>   a Hindi TrueType font ("raghu.ttf"):
> 
>   Designed by Prof. R. K. Joshi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   with with the help of Vinay Sayanekar.
> 
> 
Ya its using Raghu, try with Gargi 
http://www.indictrans.org/src/fonts/Gargi_1.7.ttf

seems there is problem with conjuncts, will have to see what toolkit
tuxpaint is using.  gtk2.x & qt 3.2.x or above work well with Hindi.
if its not using them then some library like m17n
( http://www.m17n.org ) could be used.

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Re: [ilugd] Hello

[Nishant Sharma]

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> ps - where is the half akshar key in this keymap -

Type the "Akshar" then press "D", it will put a
"Halant" to that "Akshar" and when you type further,
automatically it puts it correctly :-)

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Nishant Sharma]

--- Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > http://nishants.net/hindi/tuxpaint.html
> [...]
> 
> link.broken

Works from here :-/. Shall I send you the image as
attachment?

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Re: [ilugd] Hello

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote:
> Ram, there is the this default gnome keyboard applet with devnagari
> support for it. and You can also use Bolnagri which is an input method
> too.
> links below
> cheers
> vivek

Hi
I got what everyone was saying - hindi was already installed on my 
system - in fact all the indian languages which came with ubuntu - hoary 
- so I have added the applet to the task bar and can switch between 
hindi and english as easy as a mouse key

कया आप यह पढ सकते हैं । मगर यह keymap बडा pain हैं ।

घन्यवाद
राम

ps - where is the half akshar key in this keymap - Bhasha - which seems 
to have been made by Microcost

ram

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Re: [ilugd] unable to connect to qmail smtp server

[loving linux]

--- Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- loving linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > 192.168.1.XYZ is the internal IP of the machine.
> > Now when i telnet the smtp i got this error:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# telnet localhost 25
> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> [...]
> 
> Is telnet enabled? Tried ssh?
Yes, when i nmap my server it list down the open
ports. Port 25 110 are open and there is no other smtp
server running except qmail. telnet to port 110 is
running fine:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Regards,
> Gora
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Re: [ilugd] unable to connect to qmail smtp server

[Gora Mohanty]

--- loving linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> 192.168.1.XYZ is the internal IP of the machine.
> Now when i telnet the smtp i got this error:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# telnet localhost 25
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
> Escape character is '^]'.
[...]

Is telnet enabled? Tried ssh?

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Re: [ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Gora Mohanty]

--- Nishant Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Here is the screenshot of the interface:
> 
> http://nishants.net/hindi/tuxpaint.html
[...]

link.broken

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[ilugd] unable to connect to qmail smtp server

[loving linux]

Dear All,
We are running FC4 with default kernel
2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 with qmail.
I am new to qmail and i didnt know the setup these
people have here, as there ex-employee has left the
organisation and he has made some chages to some
configuration files due to which the server is facing
some problems. One major problem is the mail server,
which is a qmail server.
I have checked the qmail how to at:
http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html and
accordingly i have checked /etc/tcp.smtp and this file
look like this:
127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
192.168.1.XYZ:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow

192.168.1.XYZ is the internal IP of the machine.
Now when i telnet the smtp i got this error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

Can someone please help, though i am getting help from
google :), but i would like someone to help me getting
started in quick time.

Thanks a lot
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[ilugd] Tuxpaint hindi translation woes

[Nishant Sharma]

Hello all,

I've translated some strings for Tuxpaint. I am
running Debian Sarge updated till date with
ttf-devanagari-fonts and kde-i18n-hi packages
installed. 

Here is the screenshot of the interface:

http://nishants.net/hindi/tuxpaint.html

As you can see, fonts are not being rendered correctly
in case of "Matra" and "ardha-akshar". Where could be
the issue?

According to Bill Kendrick, who wrote the software:


Hrm, FYI the font we're using right now is:
"Raghu" (also called "Raghindi"),
  a Hindi TrueType font ("raghu.ttf"):

  Designed by Prof. R. K. Joshi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  with with the help of Vinay Sayanekar.


I will be thankful for any pointers. Karunakar
listening? ;-)

regards,
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: Lawrence Lessig on How it All Began

[Linux Lingam]

[huge snip]

>
>
> The story with culture is somewhat different. We didn't begin with a
> world without proprietary culture. Instead, there has always been
> proprietary culture — meaning work protected by an exclusive right.
> [huge snip]



"there has always been proprietary culture" is TOTAL BULLSHIT.
not even in the west was this true in history.

copyright is a recent phenomenon just a few centuries old.
didn't expect lawrence lessig to make such a goof!

nevertheless, stuff like CC, FSF, brings a small ray of hope that the
problems of copyright, ownership, patents, may be removed.
maybe not.

who knows?

:-|
niyam
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