Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL]: Require Python,html+forms developer
On Friday 04 Nov 2005 1:21 pm, Nitin Chandra wrote: --- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangly enough, Django was the only word u read. actualy i understood it as Django *with* mod_python (django can run on fastcgi also, but mod_python is recommended for production servers). And i wasnt trying to flame you - i am mighty pleased that ppl have started using django in production -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL]: Require Python,html+forms developer
Please accept my humble apologies, Kenneth. my mistake on assuming, you were flaming. Regards Nitin Chandra Srivastava actualy i understood it as Django *with* mod_python (django can run on fastcgi also, but mod_python is recommended for production servers). And i wasnt trying to flame you - i am mighty pleased that ppl have started using django in production -- regards kg __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Commercial] Positions open at Red Hat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Apologies for the cross post. The following positions are open at Red Hat to be based out of Pune. Those interested may please send in the CV in preferably OpenOffice.org format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the position code in the subject line within 12th November 2005 Regards Sankarshan Software Engineer - - [SWENGG] Designs, modifies, develops, writes software programming applications. Participates in the testing process through test review and analysis, test witnessing and certification of software. Works on moderately complex problems where analysis of situations or data requires a review of a variety of factors. Exercises good judgement and initiative to determine appropriate action. Has sufficient understanding of subject area to advise and provide guidance within area of expertise. Skillsets: GNOME, GTk, Pango, exposure to unit testing and regression testing, exposure to automated testing suites and writing test scripts, strong skills in C/C++ and GCC toolchain. Strong communication skills with an ability to adhere to established procedures, best known methods and guidelines. Relevant Experience: 2 years (Desirable) Quality Assurance Engineer - -- [QAENGG] Debugs software products through the use of systematic tests to develop, apply and maintain quality standards for the company products. Develops and executes software test plans. Analyses and writes test standards and procedures. Maintains documentation of test results to assist in debugging and modification of software. Analyses test results to ensure existing functionality and recommends corrective action. Consults with development engineers in resolution of problems. Has sufficient understanding of subject area to advise and provide guidance within area of expertise. Skillsets: Exposure to Unit Testing and Regression testing with strong skills in automated test suites and scripted testing methods. Capable of adapting Best Known Methods towards obtaining stated objectives. Strong documentation skills. Exposure to C/C++, GCC, CVS/SVN and strong communication skills Relevant Experience: 2 years (Desirable) Technical Writer - [TECHWRITER] Creates, develops, plans, writes and edits operational, instructional, maintenance or test procedures for paper, multimedia or web-based publication. Researches and translates technical information into manuals and/or web-based documents for nontechnical and technical users. May document engineering processes and specifications. Recommends formats responsive to technical and customer requirements. Produces products that conform to the company documentation and quality assurance standards. Follows standard practices and procedures in analyzing situations or data from which answers can be readily obtained. Skillsets: DocBook, XML, Authoring Tools, CVS/SVN, exposure to Style Manuals, strong communication skills Relevant Experience: 2 years (Desirable) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDazyy+g4kmZ76nyERAna7AKCAi8TtDx0FibyrZ9ya96j5CplijQCff+94 Th++G1lsK5QqFx8RHfB6XVU= =Twbo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development
On 11/4/05, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 Nov 2005 5:37 pm, Anupam Jain wrote: Hi everyone, I want to host an interactive (possibly database oriented) website from a spare PC over a dedicated broadband net connection.. In your opinion, which would be a better option to develop the server side program - Python or Java? Esp in terms of better (free) development tools and maintainability.. I just love python as a language but using Netbeans/Eclipse for java and the vast java libraries (maybe with Jython) seems to be a tempting possibility off late.. try django+postgresql. Django is the new python kid on the block. Hmm.. It's new alright.. Just checked out the Django homepage.. It's still in pre-release with no guarantee of backward compatibility and the code only available through subversion repositories.. Scary! I've used python on my projects before so I understand all the advantages in terms of ease and clarity.. But what about Using Jython from within Java? Seems like I'll get the best of both worlds.. Can anyone having used Jython in a web development scenario give me some idea about it's suitability? Thanks - AJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development
On Friday 04 Nov 2005 5:43 pm, Anupam Jain wrote: try django+postgresql. Django is the new python kid on the block. Hmm.. It's new alright.. Just checked out the Django homepage.. It's still in pre-release with no guarantee of backward compatibility and the code only available through subversion repositories.. Scary! i have two production sites under django - and i am not worried, even though i have limited programming skills. You want open source - stick to pure scripting languages. (i have also gone through two major non-backward-compatible upgrades of django without scars).Django rocks - bigtime -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days
Fri 4-Nov-2005 ILUG-D activity in last 7 days: = New/recent events: 0 Total events:48 = New Discussion forum postings: 5 Total postings: 747 - 1. Category: Desktop Linux Author: Rohit Subject: Firewall (firestarter) Date: Oct 28, 2005 Hi I am using the firewall, firestarter, on Fedora Core 4. The problem is that I want the firewall to start minimized in the tray on atrtup for all users (so that I can know if I am attacked and by whom!). The firewall website at http://www.fs-security... 2. Category: Networking Author: Rohit Subject: Cyberoam problem! Date: Oct 28, 2005 My ISP (read cablewallah) uses the Cyberoam software to manage internet access. However I have observed that I can't access the LAN without logging on to my ISP's server first. Whats more, I can download from other subscribers on the LAN only at the speed... 3. Category: Job Openings Author: Mukesh Bhanu Subject: Launch my career in Linux Date: Nov 02, 2005 Friends, I wish to launch my career in programming in linux environment. I felt my inclination towards programming only recently after leaving my previous job as Production Engineer. I have some knowledge of Shell programming (Bash, Tcsh), C and basics of... 4. Category: Desktop Linux Author: Karambir Rohilla Subject: RE:Fedora1.0 Date: Nov 03, 2005 dear ranjan i am a font developer . I have aprox 400 font in all indian language. i have also developed opentype (UNICODE) font indian language karambir 9313807014 delhi 110042... 5. Category: Job Openings Author: Ravi Chamria Subject: Linux and Open Source solutions at linux4india.com Date: Nov 03, 2005 Hi, we are dedicated team of professionals working in Linux and Open Source Solutions. Be it be installation, customisation or development of open source solutions like Ecommerce, Content Management Systems (Portals), Forums, Image Galleries etc, we ar... = New News items: 2 Total items:194 - 1. Category: Job Openings Author: Lakshmi Chirravuri Subject: Very Urgent Requirement for Senior J2EE Team Leads(3+ years)-Multiple Openings Date: Nov 04, 2005 ComCreation Technologies is a USA based ISO 9001 Certified IT Services Company. We have been in business for about Five years with our HQ in Dallas, TX. We have strong IT services practices in the areas of Bio-Informatics Wireless. We are now expanding ... 2. Category: -News/Announcements Author: Niraj Sahay Subject: LINUX For You [Commercial] Date: Oct 31, 2005 This communication aims to inform the Linux community about the information contained in the magazine, and we hope that it will be taken positively. Dear Linux enthusiasts, With the November issue of LINUX For You - Asia's only magazine on Linux and... = New comments:0Total comments:177 = New downloads:0 Total downloads:83 = New members:10 Total members:4585 - 1. Ashutosh Pradhan, Novice, India 2. Electron , Novice, India 3. Karambir Rohilla, Novice, new delhi, India 4. Kashyap sharma, Novice, punjab, India 5. Kuldeep sharma, User, m.p., India 6. Lakshmi Chirravuri, Novice, Karnataka, India 7. Rohit , Novice, India 8. S.Mahesh , Novice, Karnarataka, India 9. Shaji Joseph, Novice, India 10. Sunny ajmera, Novice, India = Send your suggestions, comments or feedback to admin_at_linux-delhi_dot_org -- This email is brought to you by http://www.linux-delhi.org/ - India Linux Users Group - Delhi. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] *nix Internals
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: At 2005-10-24 12:40:06 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody suggest a good reading/ decent book for UNIX Internals? The Design of the Unix Operating System, Maurice J. Bach. By far the best book I have read on the Unix System(s). And I have read quite a few in 2 decades. Please note that the book is dated, so do not use it to show off your knowledge of the Linux kernel. You can still win quizzes, because the quiz-master is probably getting the questions from it, too :-) -- Sanjeev ghane Gupta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: LawrenceLessig on How it All Began
Linux Lingam wrote: newton did not have 'proprietory' rights over his laws and equations. he published them to share them. No, he did not. He was so worried about others, often Hooke, stealing his ideas it took the Royal Society nearly 30 years to convince him to publish his second volume to the Principia. Notes to his first volume were published the year Hooke dies, despite being ready a decade earlier. Newton also refused to publish his calculus (he caled it fluxion) openly, only hinting at it in solved answers to problems. We know that he had worked out the basics by 1666 (he was solving problems for Halley which could only have been done with these tools), but he published the methods only in 1687. By that time, Liebniz had published his methods, and Newton spent the next 30 years hounding Liebniz for stealing his idea. Under pressure from its President, Newton, the Royal Society in 1714 declared that Liebniz had stolen Newton's work; and until 1820s refused to recognize foreign scientists. There were rumours of an additional volume of the Principia, lost in Manuscript, and never published because Newton did not want to share the glory. In short, Newton is a bad example to cite. Even his quotation, If I have seen farther than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants is a dig at Hooke, who was a short man. even earlier, leonardo di vinci did not have proprietory rights over his inventions and genius. da Vinci was so worried about stolen ideas, he used to write with mirror writing. This seems stupid to us, used to typeface, but the reflection of a page in cursive script, with abbreviations, can be non-intutive. -- Sanjeev ghane Gupta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 17 plasma/lcd monitor recommendations
Gora Mohanty wrote: --- Mithun Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Also fast moving images dont render too well on a TFT unless you are ready to sell your kingdom for it :). Raj has a kingdom? Damn, I should have been nicer to him. ... and a daughter, half of whose hand he is willing to give ... -- Sanjeev ghane Gupta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Acers laptop ads
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: I wonder how many folks here have read the fine print in the latest of Acer's Sub 40k notebook ads. They bundle Linux on them, and mention at the bottom in small print, something like this: The linux that is preloaded is a free version and would have limited functionality until another operating system is installed. Is this another way for these hardware vendors to appease Microsoft No while trying to sell budget notebooks bundled with Linux? Yes. -- Sanjeev ghane Gupta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 883-1] New thttpd packages fix insecure temporary file
[Please upgrade thttpd on all distributions -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org (Debian Security Announcements) Cc: Subject: [Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 883-1] New thttpd packages fix insecure temporary file Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:52:13 +0100 (CET) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA 883-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze November 4th, 2005 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - -- Package: thttpd Vulnerability : insecure temporary file Problem type : local Debian-specific: no CVE ID : CVE-2005-3124 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña from the Debian Security Audit team discovered that the syslogtocern script from thttpd, a tiny webserver, uses a temporary file insecurely, allowing a local attacker to craft a symlink attack to overwrite arbitrary files. For the old stable distribution (woody) this problem has been fixed in version 2.21b-11.3. For the stable distribution (sarge) this problem has been fixed in version 2.23beta1-3sarge1. For the unstable distribution (sid) this problem has been fixed in version 2.23beta1-4. We recommend that you upgrade your thttpd package. Upgrade Instructions - wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 alias woody - Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3.dsc Size/MD5 checksum: 545 ba3c0bb15f6212db97bcf6d6524d4780 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3.diff.gz Size/MD5 checksum:12672 47c8093a645102ea2f328455195e763c http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b.orig.tar.gz Size/MD5 checksum: 127157 9c1512664cf70c286331243ab622173e Alpha architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_alpha.deb Size/MD5 checksum:67624 465efe17c6bf662b1b191b91c8cd8491 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_alpha.deb Size/MD5 checksum:27940 3830272b2dae0993fa96b4bb014feb09 ARM architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum:54272 fd2de8fb819e11c5a0a91ad4546d3b07 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_arm.deb Size/MD5 checksum:23384 9a02e239a4d792547e088b2e7047d08a Intel IA-32 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum:51996 5c6c5f4bda6ecf89c095595ae7d47e0a http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum:23732 b86b4669f89ea162f965430181004097 Intel IA-64 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum:78060 ae4c37cfeb4bb00aabe86fb53ac8d320 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_ia64.deb Size/MD5 checksum:29732 3f7102053a50f0c67edc8d566e3707e8 HP Precision architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_hppa.deb Size/MD5 checksum:59244 1b007a6734c854b6a313e3a48c59b5d3 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_hppa.deb Size/MD5 checksum:25618 1c4087f8fa972c8ec9364fb422b1f399 Motorola 680x0 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_m68k.deb Size/MD5 checksum:49632 f1cc7d708bbcf9fc34fe5382b8370bd3 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_m68k.deb Size/MD5 checksum:23386 4b6af55203f640969e0ca8fadd3ebf7d Big endian MIPS architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd_2.21b-11.3_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum:58302 e6c7222513bd7b96a09fb53f16447552 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/t/thttpd/thttpd-util_2.21b-11.3_mips.deb Size/MD5 checksum:24670
[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] iDEFENSE Security Advisory 11.04.05: Clam AntiVirus Cabinet-file handling Denial of Service Vulnerability
[Please upgrade ClamAV on all distributions. Vendor packages should
be ready soon -- Raju]
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Subject: [Full-disclosure] iDEFENSE Security Advisory 11.04.05: Clam
AntiVirus Cabinet-file handling Denial of Service Vulnerability
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:16:13 -0500
Clam AntiVirus Cabinet-file handling Denial of Service Vulnerability
iDEFENSE Security Advisory 11.04.05
http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?type=vulnerabilities
November 4, 2005
I. BACKGROUND
Clam AntiVirus is a GPL anti-virus toolkit for Unix.
II. DESCRIPTION
Remote exploitation of a design error in Clam AntiVirus ClamAV allows
attackers to cause a denial of service (DoS) condition.
The vulnerability specifically exists with the libmspack library, which
is included in ClamAV. The vulnerability can be found in the cabd_find
function within mspack/cabd.c:
for (offset = 0; offset flen; offset += length) {
length = flen - offset;
[... read length from file ...]
for (p = buf[0], pend = buf[length]; p pend; ) {
switch (state) {
[ ... ]
case 19:
= header has been completely read, cablen has been read from bytes 8-11
[...]
/* likely cabinet found -- try reading it */
cab = sys-alloc(sys, sizeof(struct mscabd_cabinet_p); = an
mscabd_cabinet_p entry will be allocated each time
/* cabinet read correctly! */
offset = caboff + cablen;
= if cablen (and caboff) == 0, offset will be equal to 0
[...]
/* restart search */
[...]
length = 0;
p = pend;
state = 0;
= if offset == 0, we will restart at the beginning of the file =
(because length == 0, so offset will still be zero in the next
iteration)
break;
}
}
}
If this function is called with a length value of zero, an infinite loop
occurs. The comments above explain the scenario.
III. ANALYSIS
Successful exploitation requires an attacker to send a specially
constructed CAB file through a mail gateway or personal anti-virus
client utilizing the ClamAV scanning engine.
The infinite loop will cause the ClamAV software to use all available
processor resources, resulting in a denial of service or severe
degradation of system performance. Ultimately, the OOM handler will
terminate a task in order to alleviate the stress on the system.
IV. DETECTION
iDEFENSE has confirmed this vulnerability on ClamAV 0.86.1. All previous
versions are suspected vulnerable to this issue.
V. WORKAROUND
Archive file analysis can be disabled (--no-archive) but this can have
severe impacts on the virus detection functionality.
VI. VENDOR RESPONSE
The vendor has released clamav 0.87.1 to address this vulnerability. It
is available for download at:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/clamav/clamav-0.87.1.tar.gz?download
VII. CVE INFORMATION
A Mitre Corp. Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) number has not
been assigned yet.
VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE
10/07/2005 Initial vendor notification
10/12/2005 Initial vendor response
11/04/2005 Coordinated public disclosure
IX. CREDIT
The discoverer of this vulnerability wishes to remain anonymous.
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Copyright (c) 2005 iDEFENSE, Inc.
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of the information constitutes acceptance for use in an AS IS condition.
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or consequential loss or damage arising from use of, or reliance on,
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Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development
I will bite. On Friday, 4 Nov 2005 6:23 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 04 Nov 2005 5:43 pm, Anupam Jain wrote: try django+postgresql. Django is the new python kid on the block. Hmm.. It's new alright.. Just checked out the Django homepage.. It's still in pre-release with no guarantee of backward compatibility and the code only available through subversion repositories.. Scary! i have two production sites under django - and i am not worried, even though i have limited programming skills. Well, it seems that you would not be worried. But if you are involved in any corporate deployments, the clients and the managers would be worrying. Will any organizations which want to use the web app to manage their internal accounting use such a software? I dont think so. Maybe when you are running a non-critical web app, you can afford to be so short sighted. You want open source - stick to pure scripting languages. (i have also gone through two major non-backward-compatible upgrades of django without scars). You are using alpha software which is not even backward compatible among releases? That is reason enough to look elsewhere. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review: LawrenceLessig on How it All Began
[snip] sanjeev, thanks so much for these enlightening insights into newton and leonardo. these insights are too remarkable and make me wonder, are these the hallmarks of modern civilization, or just a particular civilization? for instance, the chinese are known to have invented several things in their civilization, you know the usual: gunpowder, sails, etc. what has been their attitude towards knowledge they discover or inventions they make? what about india, as in ancient india? i wonder what was the attitude towards knowledge of ancient indian scientists, whether in mathematics, or ayurveda, or whatever else? am trying to see this from a timeframe that precedes the arrival of the British to india. I do know that Jagdish Chandra Bose, for instance, refused to patent wireless, but that's one exception. what about brazilian ethnic knowledge, or of red-indians, or whoever else? what has been their attitudes towards knowledge and inventions? niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
