Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya

> Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning behind
> ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs, and all
> proposals can be questioned/modified etc.

I would attend it if it is possible. I realize I don't have the right to dispute
decisions if I had not been there when it was being discussed and made. But I 
hope
that *discussing* (I know a very thin line separates it from disputing) 
decisions 
is not too unfair, is it? Meeting minutes are sometimes too terse for non-Delhi 
residents to understand why a decision was taken. 

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 05-May-07, at 11:31 AM, PJ wrote:

> Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the  
> reasoning behind
> ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome  
> inputs, and all
> proposals can be questioned/modified etc.

what about those who object to the name GNU/Linux? are they not  
welcome? And the *bsd people? And those who write OSS on windoze? And  
mac users who write OSS?
>
> 3. we wanted to move on from the very localised regionalism of  
> Delhi embodied by
> the "del" part of "freedel". But still acknowledge our regional  
> bias loosely. So
> we could hold freed in Nepal, freed in Bangalore, freed in Thailand  
> etc. Don't
> forget, we have "Bangalore chapter" of ILUGD ;-)

this is not a good idea. The Indian foss community is very allergic  
to anything that aspires to All India Status. First establish freedel  
in Delhi - that has not been done yet, then worry about going all  
india. One thing we have learnt in the last 10 years is that the  
strength of the Indian foss community is in the regional bases. We  
must strengthen those.


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Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread PJ

> 
> Viksit Gaur wrote:
> > 
> > "Freed" elicits, atleast in me, notions of a bunch of
> > previously subjugated people now unshackled by
> > something.  Not necessarily with respect to FOSS. It
> > could be a revolt, a coup de etat or whatever. Freed
> > 2007 would make a great libertarian conference, going
> > by names alone. 

Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am interpreting this name in exactly the same way. If we(viksit and me) are
right,
> and that was the intention by the society, then the name is dangerously
deceptive. 
> We haven't achieved software freedom yet, and in any  case, we 
> should always emphasize that fighting for freedom is a lifelong process -
> as they say "Fighting to get freedom is not enough, we have to keep fighting
> forever to preserve it".
> 
> - Sandip

I am unsure of your objection. Logically, being freed doesn't mean that you
are forever free. You still run the risk of being enslaved again.

If your objection is that people take freedom for granted and won't keep
working  to safeguard it, well, that's certainly something we wish to spread
awareness about too. But is there a catchy name that embodies that concept
better than "freed"?

Maybe something like:

 sheeple-stay-free

Nah, I don't think has the same ring about it.

Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning behind
ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs, and all
proposals can be questioned/modified etc.

The reasoning behind using freed in particular was:

1. to promote the concept of people using GNU/Linux being freed from the chains
of proprietary lock-in. This was the main concept. Certainly some of the ideas
cross over into the ideas behind libertarianism/revolt, but it wasn't
intentional.

2. the domain freed.in was available.

3. we wanted to move on from the very localised regionalism of Delhi embodied by
the "del" part of "freedel". But still acknowledge our regional bias loosely. So
we could hold freed in Nepal, freed in Bangalore, freed in Thailand etc. Don't
forget, we have "Bangalore chapter" of ILUGD ;-)

4. we could keep the same logo as before (the FD style logo) - though this was a
relatively minor consideration

5. It was short (1 syllable!) and sweet.

6. The concept of freedom is bigger than that of Linux, or even GNU/Linux to
most of us. So we might push the creative commons concepts too (at least the
"free" CC licences that have resulted in sites like http://www.wikipedia.com for
knowledge, http://www.jamendo.com for music etc).

YMMV
PJ



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Re: [ilugd] [commercial] New Linux magazine

2007-05-04 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 5/4/07, Linux Magzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have started a monthly online linux magazine for Indians. It is totally
> free of cost with no advertisement or any commercial gains.

Good to know that , Could we know were are you located ?

>
> If anyone is interested in writing articles for the same please let me know.
> Your article will be published along with your name/email/website/contact.
> Everyone is welcomed from students to experienced developers.
>

ILUGD is starting a parallel project named e-zine , Why don`t you
collabate with it ?

> Please contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I also need tips on how to improve.
>
> Jai Hind.
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Re: [ilugd] [commercial] New Linux magazine

2007-05-04 Thread Ravi Shanker
Whats the URL to on-line magazine
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 21:44 +0530, Linux Magzen wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have started a monthly online linux magazine for Indians. It is totally
> free of cost with no advertisement or any commercial gains.
> 
> If anyone is interested in writing articles for the same please let me know.
> Your article will be published along with your name/email/website/contact.
> Everyone is welcomed from students to experienced developers.
> 
> Please contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I also need tips on how to improve.
> 
> Jai Hind.
> 


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[ilugd] [commercial] New Linux magazine

2007-05-04 Thread Linux Magzen
Hello all,

I have started a monthly online linux magazine for Indians. It is totally
free of cost with no advertisement or any commercial gains.

If anyone is interested in writing articles for the same please let me know.
Your article will be published along with your name/email/website/contact.
Everyone is welcomed from students to experienced developers.

Please contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I also need tips on how to improve.

Jai Hind.

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Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Viksit Gaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Freed" elicits, atleast in me, notions of a bunch of

How come nobody thought that this is a type for `Fred'?

 

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[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days

2007-05-04 Thread nkapoor
Fri 4-May-2007: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days:
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1. FEDORA LINUX AVAILABLE

Author: Naveen Nambiar
Posted on: Tue, May 01, 2007 - 03:07 AM
Link: http://www.webrachna.com/cgi-bin/ilugd/news.cgi?action=showItem&iId=263

Fedora Linux Core 4 ( 4 cd pack) is available for Rs. 100 only. Postage extra.

Contact Naveen Nambiar
Mob # 9868639623...

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1. By: Naveen Nambiar
Posted on: Tue, May 01, 2007
Link: http://www.webrachna.com/cgi-bin/ilugd/news.cgi?action=showItem&iId=254

Hello Sir. I have got UBUNTU with me. ...

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Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-04 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> we should always emphasize that fighting for freedom is a lifelong process
> -
> as they say "Fighting to get freedom is not enough, we have to keep
> fighting
> forever to preserve it".


that's why the name "Free-d" -- as in daemon (aka ftpd, telnetd, sshd). So
it keeps waking up in intervals, fights for freedom, and goes to sleep :)

Sorry. Couldn't stop myself :P

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[ilugd] Asterisk Installation(Commercial)

2007-05-04 Thread XpoSoft Systems
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