Re: [ilugd] Skype Found Guilty of GPL Violations
Quoting Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/30/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30-Jul-07, at 1:55 PM, PJ wrote: Since the starcom UT modem I have at the office is redistributed without source access and GPL text, it seems to be the same kind of violation as skype's violation when skype distributed their voip set without source access and GPL text. if MTNL has not modified the code in the modem, it is under no obligation to provide the source or the GPL text Ok Lets look at it this way.. MTNL gets the right to distribute the modem from Starcom.. Starcom does not have the right to distribute the modem unless it complies with the GPL.. Starcom does not comply with the GPL.. Hence Starcom neither has the right to distribute nor the right to give the right to distribute the software to a third party.. Hence MTNL has no rights to distribute the tainted code.. I don't see where the confusion is.. right - somehow I had assumed that starcom had complied with the GPL. Although I dont think MTNL would have any contract with starcom. MTNL would be purchasing modems on the tender system from some dealer and would be passing the same as recieved to the customer after testing it. So the customer usually gets the modem with original packing and literature. Even then MTNL is guilty of violation of GPL. And so is every dealer/retailer who sells these modems. The obvious solution is to sue starcom. Given the success in the dlink case, I would assume that Harald welte has already issued notice to starcom - assuming that starcom is big enough to show up on his radar. In India, the easiest way of shaking up MTNL is to file an application under the RTI act seeking information as to who is responsible for MTNL getting involved in illegal deals like this. Any Indian citizen can file such an application - and such applications are extraordinarily effective. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 8:37 AM, vivek khurana wrote: For home use RAID 1 is enough. Nothing complicated. remember the KISS principle. I keep it very simple and use a Buffalo terrastation gigabit nas for my home storage needs. Its set for RAID 5. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsYdebR7mO5apBYARArgaAJ92Pv0jYreSRtT73tUebxYWyTraGACgwIZ8 OS6CMMSI1WOUo9A+nd+oi7Q= =sFKe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 2:13 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: www.sonos.com and you'll understand why people would need a wifi-NAS at home. great link for ankur rohtagi. ;-) Heheh, too slow my friend. I am an ex sonos user, i had it for about a month and then i gave it to my brother in law who loves it. I found that i preferred a complete unit with speakers et al when i want to stream music, thats why i got that soundbridge radio. If sonos makes the amps with speakers in the same unit, i will return to sonos. The remote though is amazing. And no i cant bring the Sonos to a meeting, its part of a very elaborate multi zone music setup now and is kind of fixed with concealed wiring etc. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGsYY7bR7mO5apBYARAnTpAJjoqzpyLdOaPKFoVhnBI1LH+IAfAJ9mEwIf Me5StqY3tPZml7Oapo9dOw== =kleZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
06. last week i discovered some companies have started shipping a Network-Attached-Storage with built-in wi-fi. i dunno if this is available in india, and at what price. what do you guys think? / hi, Check out a fork off the m0n0wall (www.m0n0.ch/wall) project called FreeNAS (www.freenas.org). In addition to other things that a NAS does, it will let you create a Wi-Fi NAS too! With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
On 8/2/07, Ankur Rohatgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 8:37 AM, vivek khurana wrote: For home use RAID 1 is enough. Nothing complicated. remember the KISS principle. I keep it very simple and use a Buffalo terrastation gigabit nas for my home storage needs. Its set for RAID 5. heheheee. life couldn't be simpler when it's ankur around town. :-) how much did that buffalo cost you? what's your storage capacity? must say, this discussion is so startling to me: terabytes at home served over sophisticated storage devices. w o w ! also, ankur, now i am surprised and not-surprised when you tell me you already kicked the tyres on that sonos. :-) am sure you must have also discovered that very high-end USD1000+ internet radio that has some very superior DACs and components, plugs into high-end home-theater systems, and yes, can pick up data from these kind of storage devices and storage networks as well. since you probably know about it, am not mentioning it here. you may of course share with us how was your experience of using it last year or whenever you bought it and checked it out already... :-) :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Linux makes inroads into Microsoft's domain
Linux makes inroads into Microsoft's domain Leslie D'Monte in Mumbai | August 02, 2007 03:14 IST http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/aug/02linux.htm The Penguin (named Tux) is finally making inroads as an operating system on desktops too. While it has an over 20 per cent market share when we speak of servers in India, the free OS called Linux has just around 5 per cent market share in the country when it comes to desktops -- the lion's share going to Microsoft Windows. The scenario is gradually changing, it appears. Novell along with the Electronics Corporation of Tamil Nadu is installing Suse Linux in around 40,000 desktops in the entire state. Over 50 per cent of the estimated Rs 200 crore project -- which has been put up on YouTube too -- has already been completed, according to C Umashankar, managing director, ELCOT. This is the second largest implementation of Linux on the desktop -- the biggest one being that of around 60,000 desktops in LIC [Get Quote] of India by Red Hat, which is estimated to have implemented over 200,000 desktop OS installations. Canara Bank [Get Quote] too has around 10,000 Linux OS desktops. ELCOT migrated its entire IT infrastructure from Windows to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and SUSE Linux Enterprise desktop. ELCOT is the implementing agency for the prestigious Tamil Nadu State Wide Area Network Project and is in the process of commissioning the state's data centre and disaster recovery centre too. We had to be sure that the Linux solution would meet all requirements. We decided to test it on our own internal systems and make an informed decision about whether it would be the right choice for schools and other government offices, said Umashankar, adding: With SUSE Linux Enterprise, we no longer have any worries about viruses. This aspect of security used to be a real concern because we know of other e-government systems, which have collapsed because of malicious attacks. Linux has over 300 variants, of which the offerings from Red Hat and Novell are the most popular because the firms provide support and maintenance -- the OS is free. The growth of Linux on the desktop, according to analysts, has been stymied by piracy. Many people prefer to use pirated Windows OS on their desktops. However, since Microsoft is hardening its coming down hard on piracy, more users may opt for Linux since it reduces the cost of the PC. The cost of the PCs is Rs 21,600 each (includes OS and a 19 TFT monitor). Linux, according to Umashakar, has helped ELCOT reduce general hardware costs by nearly 25 per cent. In the case of high-end servers, the savings could be as much as 80 per cent. With pre-built, virus-protected systems running open source software, Tamil Nadu's schools have a low-cost, highly reliable infrastructure that promises to deliver real savings in the years to come. Around 100 anti-virus licences have been rendered redundant. ELCOT has also set up its own software development centre. Another big advantage of Linux is that you can experiment with different applications without making big investments. We soon designed a suite of applications, which will deliver all the functionality the teachers will need. We also have a 28-seat software development wing supported by SUSE Linux Enterprise on the server and desktop, fully powered by open source tools, says Umashankar. http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/aug/02linux.htm Sudeep Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] urgent: help promote freed.in on your blog and site with buttons and banners
dear all, quote Help us promote freed.in We'd appreciate any assistance in promoting freed.in. To make things easier, we have created a bunch of buttons and banners. Please feel free to use any of these to spread the good word. http://freed.in/index.php/promote /quote thanks, and please forward this to other FOSS mailing lists across the sub-continent. :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
On 03-Aug-07, at 6:15 AM, Vikas Rawal wrote: and as for other mail, everyone else backs it up, so I just have to ask the relevant person for a copy when I want it. economists call it free riding :) this mania for backing up is much worse than the sin of not backing up at all. Usually when you lose data that has not been backed up, apart from the initial shock, it turns out to be a very good thing in the long run. So before spending that one lakh on multiTB Raid 15, just think: Is there no way I can replicate/reconstruct this data if it is lost? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
and as for other mail, everyone else backs it up, so I just have to ask the relevant person for a copy when I want it. economists call it free riding :) Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] urgent: help promote freed.in on your blog and site with buttons and banners
in infinite wisdom Linux Lingam spoke thus On 08/03/2007 01:27 AM: dear all, quote Help us promote freed.in http://linux-delhi.org/ takes you to India Linux Users Group - Delhi Due to some technical issues, you will now be re-directed to the new location of the web site. We are working on restoring the original location, and hope to be able to do it soon. Thank You. What is the technical issue facing linux-delhi's site ? -- raj shekhar facts: http://rajshekhar.net | opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] urgent: help promote freed.in on your blog and site with buttons and banners
On 03-Aug-07, at 10:37 AM, Raj Shekhar wrote: What is the technical issue facing linux-delhi's site ? maybe downgrading from perl to PHP? Actualy some issue regarding the version of mysql on ilugd server not being compatible with the new version of the site - there is a thread on that and I think they want some Mysql experts to help them out. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] learning alphabets
hi, there is a program called Klettres in KDE for teaching alphabets in any language. We have done the Tamil, Kannada and Telugu versions of this - details at http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/klettres hindi is already there - so just 18 languages to go -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
