Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread vivek khurana

--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 suggestion: first convert them to open source and
 then give them the  
 philosophy. Conversion is not done by preaching, but
 by practical  
 examples in programming/useage/tricks and tips. And
 the, if needed, a  
 little bit of philosophy and idealogy. Better would
 be:
 
 Niyam - dazzling demo of the artist in open source
 Kishore - showing of the modern programming
 languages?
 Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open
 source - utube,  
 flicker, google,
 Sudev - Show off that new palm size thing client and
 what you can do  
 with it in open source
 Raj - Networking or Philosophy of GPL
 
 much better than a bunch of boring old slides.


 I agree with Kenneth here. NSIT students would have
listened to enough old monkeys. If you guys want to
project ilugd as another consortium for delivering
boring talks go ahead with the proposed schedule.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Deepank Gupta
Hi,

I think that this can be the final schedule :

Niyam - dazzling demo of the artist in open source and some motivational talk.
Kishore - showing of the modern programming languages
Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open source - utube,
flicker, google OR career opportunities in open-source and development
methodologies.
Sudev - Brief talk with NSITians ...

Raj, if you would be able to spare some time to come and interact with
NSITians, it will be great. Please tell if there are some more changes
in the schedule are to be done as we will be putting up posters and
all on Monday.

Thanks  Regards,
Deepank.


On 02/09/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  suggestion: first convert them to open source and
  then give them the
  philosophy. Conversion is not done by preaching, but
  by practical
  examples in programming/useage/tricks and tips. And
  the, if needed, a
  little bit of philosophy and idealogy. Better would
  be:
 
  Niyam - dazzling demo of the artist in open source
  Kishore - showing of the modern programming
  languages?
  Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open
  source - utube,
  flicker, google,
  Sudev - Show off that new palm size thing client and
  what you can do
  with it in open source
  Raj - Networking or Philosophy of GPL
 
  much better than a bunch of boring old slides.


  I agree with Kenneth here. NSIT students would have
 listened to enough old monkeys. If you guys want to
 project ilugd as another consortium for delivering
 boring talks go ahead with the proposed schedule.

 regards
 VK

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 solution in search of a problem.

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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 02 September 2007 12:57, Deepank Gupta wrote:
 Hi,

 I think that this can be the final schedule :

 Niyam - dazzling demo of the artist in open source and some
 motivational talk. Kishore - showing of the modern programming
 languages
 Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open source - utube,
 flicker, google OR career opportunities in open-source and
 development methodologies.

YouTube would be a bad idea -- you don't really want to start 
propagating proprietary software and closed specification to anyone, 
and Flash is both.

 Sudev - Brief talk with NSITians ...

 Raj, if you would be able to spare some time to come and interact
 with NSITians, it will be great. Please tell if there are some more
 changes in the schedule are to be done as we will be putting up
 posters and all on Monday.

Afraid I won't be able to make it, but hope things go fine.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 02-Sep-07, at 1:30 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open source - utube,
 flicker, google OR career opportunities in open-source and
 development methodologies.

 YouTube would be a bad idea -- you don't really want to start
 propagating proprietary software and closed specification to anyone,
 and Flash is both.

so open lazlo? or chuck it and have a long 2 hour lecture on the  
merits of gpl3 over gpl2


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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread vivek khurana

--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 so open lazlo? or chuck it and have a long 2 hour
 lecture on the  
 merits of gpl3 over gpl2

 Wow, i can foresee the NSIT canteen and sales for tea
and coffee shooting over the roof ;-)

 What happened to you after suggesting such good
topics? Look like too much of something is bad enough.

regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 02 September 2007 14:42, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 02-Sep-07, at 1:30 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:
  Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open source -
  utube, flicker, google OR career opportunities in open-source and
  development methodologies.
 
  YouTube would be a bad idea -- you don't really want to start
  propagating proprietary software and closed specification to
  anyone, and Flash is both.

 so open lazlo? or chuck it and have a long 2 hour lecture on the
 merits of gpl3 over gpl2

Oh, I didn't realise that those (Flash and GPLv3) were the only two 
items that we could discuss in the meeting.  Please go ahead with Flash 
then, since GPLv3 is obviously boring and meaningless to the audience, 
and not other topic is available ;)

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Gora Mohanty

On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 12:57 +0530, Deepank Gupta wrote:
[...]
 Gora - showcase web2.0 as cannot exist without open source - utube,
 flicker, google OR career opportunities in open-source and development
 methodologies.
[...]

I am far from being competent to talk about cutting-edge areas
in web-development, and detest the whole hype around Web 2.0.
If I had my druthers, anyone who says Web 2.0 in public, and
actually means it, would be up against a wall, facing a .22.

I would be glad to talk either about career opportunities in
open-source, or about Indian language computing. In the former
case, I am a little confused as to what you actually want.
Showing people how to join an open-source projects, and use
open-source development practices is quite a bit different
from showing them possible careers using open-source, and both
cannot be covered in a short talk.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Linux Lingam

 A (and many Free Software magazines) magazine (online)
 uses Open Source tools for publishing monthly issues.
 An example of that is

 http://fullcirclemagazine.org/

 The layouts in their (first two) issues weren't great,
 but they have improved comparatively.



fullcircle magazine rocks. do check it out and distribute via email
and urls to friends.
the magazine is designed with scribus, the desktop-publishing
software, and with gimp.
[i wrote a tutorial for scribus when it was a cuddly little baby 2
years ago.. :-)]

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread Deepank Gupta
@Gora
Please have a talk on how to join an open source project and talk
about the various development practices used in open-source. I am
saying this because most of the NSITians land in plush jobs after
graduation and also the fact that most of the attendees will be
looking forward to doing some good projects in open-source.

@Vivek
You are very right :). Nescafe will have lots of sales on Wednesday
and I am already having the feeling of deja vu as there was a lot of
heat generated in the August meeting of ILUG over the properiety
formats like Flash and other content generation tools.

@Linux-Lingam
Full circle magazine does rock. Its layout is really very very good
and even better than some of the other paid magazines.  Anyone can
visit the magazine at the url : http://fullcirclemagazine.org . I have
myself submitted 2 small snippets for the magazine and am hoping to
see atleast one of them published in the 5th issue. :)

On 02/09/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A (and many Free Software magazines) magazine (online)
  uses Open Source tools for publishing monthly issues.
  An example of that is
 
  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
 
  The layouts in their (first two) issues weren't great,
  but they have improved comparatively.
 
 

 fullcircle magazine rocks. do check it out and distribute via email
 and urls to friends.
 the magazine is designed with scribus, the desktop-publishing
 software, and with gimp.
 [i wrote a tutorial for scribus when it was a cuddly little baby 2
 years ago.. :-)]

 :-)
 niyam

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Re: [ilugd] List etiquette

2007-09-02 Thread Vishnu Gopal
Hi Raj,

On 8/27/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 A reminder about mailing list etiquette in general...
[..]

Could I also suggest keeping your signatures short and not polluting them with:


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1. Your name and email ID (redundant).

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2. Freed.in tag

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3. A GPG ID (?) and an epitaph

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Re: [ilugd] Shell script help

2007-09-02 Thread Jay
On 9/1/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 01 September 2007 09:57, Jay wrote:
  I am newbie to shell script programing. I was trying to write a
  script which will compile all the .cpp file in a folder as mention
  below:
 
  for f in *.cpp; do gc++ $f; done;
  mv *.cpp /data/jay/success
  mv *.out /data/jay/success
 
  And this is working fine, but the issue is, if any .cpp file is
  having compilation error, my batch execution getting stuck. Can
  anybody help me out to ignore the compilation error and jump to next
  file compilation? And also, how to move all the error files with log
  file to a different directory.

 Try something like:

 for i in *.cpp
 do
   out=`basename $i .cpp`.out
   g++ $i -o $out  ( mv $i /wherever ; mv $out /wherever )
 done  LOG 21

 The files remaining in the current directory are the ones that didn't
 get compiled.  LOG will contain the compilation log.

 The snippet above may not work exactly as advertised, so be sure to test
 and fix before running on live data.

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Thanks for your suggestion Raju,

It is working fine, but I want to know, how to pass ^z command to a
busy terminal. Suppose due to some compilation issue (infinite loop,
etc.) my terminal got blocked, how can I pass ^z command to a busy
terminal through shell script. Please suggest.

...Jay

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