[ilugd] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,

am googling since two days, can't find a complete and/or comprehensive
list of foss or foss-related events scheduled for 2008.

i know the number of events are growing. we have:

1.mashups,
2.OSSCamps, and similar
3.CII-partnered events,
4.leading national events
5.LUG-created regional events
6.academia/college events
7.commercial events

but where's the list. or of tentative schedules. for example, some
random excess:

a) openitis.com mentions foss.in in december, and an event in florida.
wow! but no mention of their own event in delhi in feb 2k8.
http://www.openitis.com/openitis/events.php

b) neither does the other site mention this:
linuxasia.net

c) gnunify does not mention its tentative or finalized schedules on
its site or wiki:
http://gnunify.pbwiki.com/

d) the freed.in banner or site does not mention the tentative schedule
for feb-end 2008.

e) NRCFOSS website's forthcoming events sections mentions events past,
dead, and gone:
http://nrcfoss.org.in/index.php?option=com_contenttask=categorysectionid=1id=22Itemid=2
would expect more constructive effort from nrcfoss

f) ilug-d website, after it re-directs, mentions events held in sep07.

g) fsf website has no link on their homepage to events at all:
http://fsf.org.in/

h) CII ICT section has no list
http://cii.in/menu_content.php?menu_id=477

i) PLUG site mentions no list of events in india
http://plug.org.in/

j) redhat's events page spouts forth an error 404
http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/events/

k) all the colleges and academia across india which love to sport foss
events, can't find 'em either.



why list our schedules?
1.
we can better coordinate our events with no overlap. for example,
pune's mashup overlapped with mumbai's IIT weekend event. freed.in
just skirted overlapping with linuxasia2008 thanks to a random phone
call.

2. we can better use resources, since freed.in and pune's event, show
how different regional communities can come together to collaborate on
events. speakers, especially international speakers, could get to see
our sub-continent on a discount while event-hopping :-)


3. our community has become too big and diverse to be addressed by
just one event, or two. ;-)

4. placeholder for more


so resolution:
as a community, where do you figure we create a wiki, twiki, or
similar site, where we encourage everyone to publish their final or
tentative event schedules?

over to you guys.


:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Rahul Chopra
niyam/all: my 2-cents are in-line with ...


dear all,

am googling since two days, can't find a complete and/or comprehensive
list of foss or foss-related events scheduled for 2008.

 niyam: great suggestions. while the LFY team will start updating 
FOSS
events more aggressively on its event section, allow me to share the fact
that anyone can register their FOSS event on openITis.com, and there are no
costs involved.

i know the number of events are growing. we have:

1.mashups,
2.OSSCamps, and similar
3.CII-partnered events,
4.leading national events
5.LUG-created regional events
6.academia/college events
7.commercial events

but where's the list. or of tentative schedules. for example, some
random excess:

a) openitis.com mentions foss.in in december, and an event in florida.
wow! but no mention of their own event in delhi in feb 2k8.
http://www.openitis.com/openitis/events.php

 explained below

b) neither does the other site mention this:
linuxasia.net

 since linuxasia is being renamed to open source india week, the new
website is under construction right now. will be up and running within a
fortnight


why list our schedules?
1.
we can better coordinate our events with no overlap. for example,
pune's mashup overlapped with mumbai's IIT weekend event. freed.in
just skirted overlapping with linuxasia2008 thanks to a random phone
call.

2. we can better use resources, since freed.in and pune's event, show
how different regional communities can come together to collaborate on
events. speakers, especially international speakers, could get to see
our sub-continent on a discount while event-hopping :-)


3. our community has become too big and diverse to be addressed by just one
event, or two. ;-)

4. placeholder for more

so resolution: as a community, where do you figure we create a wiki, twiki,
or similar site, where we encourage everyone to publish their final or
tentative event schedules?

 well you could look at openITis.com's events section, or else a 
wiki on
creativedot or any of the LUG websites.

over to you guys.

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 am googling since two days, can't find a complete and/or comprehensive
 list of foss or foss-related events scheduled for 2008.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/community/events is one road to
take, upcoming and/or facebook is another. Point of course is that most
of the FOSS events in India don't have the time or energy to chalk out
a media/public face plan that would ensure greater and organised
participation from delegates and speakers

LFY had its moments to emerge as the consolidated calendar site, but I'd
daresay that they have lost it

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Re: [ilugd] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Linux Lingam

 http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/community/events is one road to
 take,

nah! too generic. would be great to have an india or india-centric
list to which ilnuxjournal could link.

upcoming and/or facebook is another.

facebook? i think they got bought over by microsoft. also wonder how
easy is it for people to view, add, edit, or comment *without*
registering to their service. nah! personally, i would not recommend
facebook to anyone serious about foss, but you can tar me for that
later. so far my opinion on this, for myself, still stands. sorry. so
no flames or whatever on this, let's stick to the topic at hand.


 Point of course is that most
 of the FOSS events in India don't have the time or energy to chalk out
 a media/public face plan that would ensure greater and organised
 participation from delegates and speakers

well let's try to actively solve this problem. here's what we could do:

a) figure out one central place where anyone anywhere can log in and
list an event. should this be a wiki/twiki site? please respond, and
let's try to finalize this within 2 or 3 days. this way, we don't have
to go through this awkward x-posted mailing thread.

b) every fortnight or month, we could send out an email reminder on
mailing lists to register events at this public repository. i
volunteer to do this to the few mailing lists am subscribed to, but
others interested could help and spread the word.

c) similarly, those who list out events, such as openitis or nrcfoss
or others, could be requested, nudged, prodded, or as a last resort
pushed :-) to list or link to this list, so everyone knows what's
happening where and when.

d) events that i attend, have decided to photo-document using a cc-by
or liberal license. this am doing at flickr. am doing this in the hope
of giving faces to names to so many many people quietly working and
doing valuable little things in the foss community of india. this
according to me, is the one solid way of correcting the
'reality-distortion' of having a handful of demonic-gods and
ego-maniacs tending to usurp the indian foss community. let the
community lead. let the community be known. let everyone in the
community be given their recognition.
of course, everyone else is also encouraged to give as many pixelled
faces to the indian foss community as possible.
i'd like to call this the 'fossbook' :-) and we could use flickr,
picasa, or whatever else you've got.


 LFY had its moments to emerge as the consolidated calendar site, but I'd
 daresay that they have lost it

LFY has lost *to some extent* on their initial credibility, goodwill,
and momentum, but so far, hope springs eternal. :-)
currently, they're great for spiking up responses on mailing lists ;-)
they also need a new direction beyond the 'linux' pond into the bigger
ocean of foss and beyond. rahul is trying that with LFY's new avatar.
unfortunately, it is still a long, slow, work-in-progress, which it
shouldn't be.

they seemed to have honed in on their positioning for their event,
but i wish they'd sharpen and focus more on the core essence of all
things foss and linux, the valuesystem. if they get that part right,
they'll rock in all dimensions, and also figure out how to squarely
and responsibly handle microsoft and other proprietary players without
allowing them to ride on LFY's shoulders to damage the foss community.
(drink-and-drive policy). okay enough said! back to the list.

if we decide where to host this list, we could get off this
mail-thread immediately.
the list must encourage and allow tentative schedules and 'to be
decided' entries, just so we have an early heads up. some suggested
fields:

event name.
dates/schedules
venue
contact people
website
mailing list/forum/wiki
past events links
target audience
expected numbers
objective
event-type: sponsored, or community-driven
entry: registration, paid, mixed, rent-a-crowd... :-)


:-)
niyam

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[ilugd] Ubuntu experience on Acer Aspire 4520

2007-10-29 Thread Subu_G
Has anyone used the Acer Aspire 4520 with Ubuntu Fiesty/Gusty? If so
please let me know and share your experience as I plan to go for it
and don't want to get stuck with issues of drivers etc.  I did search
the archive and it came up with one thread (Jun 2007) discussing it.
Anupam Jain had been positive about his experience with his Acer
notebook, but others had a different story. Any experience with this
particular model??

At a price of 34K it seems to be the best value for money. The basic
config is Athlon 64 X2 (1.7GHz, 512kB L2 Cache combined), Nvidia
nForce 610M chipset, Nvidia GeForce 7000M, Monitor 14.1-inch
WideScreen, 10/100/1000 Network Card, 56k Modem, 802.11 b/g Wireless
LAN, Bluetooth 2.0+.

Though google came up with some good reviews, I could not find much on
Linux experience on it (it comes with some Basic Linux - Linpus Linux
or something). The site at : http://priceguru.in/archives/features/895
mentions:
In other things, we tried to run select live distros (no need of
installation) of Linux including the popular Ubuntu 7.04.
Unfortunately, Ubuntu too didn't have the needed drivers built-in for
graphics, WiFi, LAN, etc. Without managing internet connectivity
through LAN/WiFi, finding a solution for Ubuntu was very remote.

Would be grateful for advise/feedback.

TIA

- Subash

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Re: [ilugd] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Kishore Bhargava
whats wrong with linux-india.org thats how the whole thing started off
anyways?

Cheers...Kishore
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at the steam fitters' picnic.

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Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Linux Lingam
we've got two shortlisted sites:


 http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/

 It might be best to keep add to it, than re-invent the wheel.
[snip]
 Kingsly

and linux-india.org recommended by kishore bhargava.


the nrcfosshelpline site is more populated but alas, no way for anyone
to log in and submit an event, or so it seems.
the linux-india events module seems to have a rather clunky interface,
and so far the only event it lists is foss.in. however, anyone can log
in to submit an event.

so which one, or which other, do you guys recommend?

:-)
n

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Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Linux Lingam
we've got two shortlisted sites:


 http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/

 It might be best to keep add to it, than re-invent the wheel.
[snip]
 Kingsly

and linux-india.org recommended by kishore bhargava.


the nrcfosshelpline site is more populated but alas, no way for anyone
to log in and submit an event, or so it seems.
the linux-india events module seems to have a rather clunky interface,
and so far the only event it lists is foss.in. however, anyone can log
in to submit an event.

so which one, or which other, do you guys recommend?

:-)
n

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Re: [ilugd] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 29-Oct-07, at 4:54 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 e) NRCFOSS website's forthcoming events sections mentions events past,
 dead, and gone:
 http://nrcfoss.org.in/index.php? 
 option=com_contenttask=categorysectionid=1id=22Itemid=2
 would expect more constructive effort from nrcfoss

we need a volunteer


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Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 29-Oct-07, at 12:29 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:

   One might argue that 2007 was distorted by that huge spike
 (probably the Microsoft at Linux-Asia thread),

 so, the 'Kenneth Gonsalves Award for Flamebait 2007' goes to EFY !

i hope you have made your will - you are toast (or rather karuvaad)


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Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 30-Oct-07, at 12:47 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 the nrcfosshelpline site is more populated but alas, no way for anyone
 to log in and submit an event, or so it seems.

try today evening


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Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-29 Thread Sudev Barar
On 29/10/2007, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  so, the 'Kenneth Gonsalves Award for Flamebait 2007' goes to EFY !

 i hope you have made your will - you are toast (or rather karuvaad)

 This does not make sense to me in any sense as a input or retort
or funny or flame.

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu experience on Acer Aspire 4520

2007-10-29 Thread Jasbir Khehra
On 10/29/07, Subu_G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would be grateful for advise/feedback.

 TIA

 - Subash
You can also try at Ubuntu-In mailing list , maybe someone there might
be using the same laptop.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
-- 
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[ilugd] Fwd: The KDE-SIG needs (your) help

2007-10-29 Thread Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray
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From: Sebastian Vahl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Oct 2007 03:45
Subject: The KDE-SIG needs (your) help
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This is a request for participation:
The KDE-SIG [1] is atm lacking active contributors. And we really need some
help in doing our job to provide a good KDE version in Fedora - especially
with the upcoming KDE 4.0 and the inclusion in Fedora 9.

If you don't know how you could help us here is a list (which is also in the
wiki):

* Packagers: There are so many interesting packages that are not yet packaged
for Fedora. Package it to improve the user experience.

* Reviewers: Only a few persons are doing the kde-related reviews. Help us
reviewing so that more packages could be included.

* Testers: If you love KDE use the development version or the updates-testing
repository and report bugs, bugs, bugs, request enhancements or features. We
need your feedback to improve KDE.

* Bugs: Become a BugZapper and help us with kde-related bugs.

* Documentation writers: The documentation (esp. the DesktopUserGuide) is
GNOME-centered. Help us to provide an equivalent for KDE.

* Release Notes: The few people that are working on the new KDE-Spin are quite
busy with development issues. If you want to help us in writing the release
notes for the next version of Fedora we would give you all the info you need.

* Wiki: Maintain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE and keep it updated with
end user information.

* Artists: To provide a matching theme for nodoka-metacity-theme and provide
an unified desktop experience.

But this is not a complete list. If you're interested in making KDE in Fedora
better, you're more than welcome.


The list of participants in the wiki is atm not a list of active contributors.
When setting up the wiki the only demand was an interest in KDE to be listed
on this page. This list would be changed in the future to be culled down to
the list of active (or reactivated) participants. This has become necessarely
because there are only (less or more) 3 active contributors atm (plus Than
Ngo). But the list indicates that there are enough people helping with KDE.


If you are interested in joining the KDE-SIG please add your name to this
list, answer to this mail, join us in #fedora-kde at freenode or attend the
weekly KDE-SIG-Meetings (every tuesday 17:00 UTC). I will also add a topic to
the agenda of the meeting next week to introduce new contributors. [2]
The attendance at the SIG-Meetings is of course not required. But this way we
would know of each other. And they are also the main place of discussing the
next steps in the development (besides fedora-devel-list).


If you have any further questions please answer to this mail or write me
directly. And be sure: If your are willing to help you're welcome (regardless
of your skills). :)

Sebastian


[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-11-06

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Re: [ilugd] [LIG] [PLUG] [x-post] foss events list in india 2008?

2007-10-29 Thread rahul


 we've got two shortlisted sites:


 http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/

 It might be best to keep add to it, than re-invent the wheel.
[snip]
 Kingsly

 and linux-india.org recommended by kishore bhargava.


 the nrcfosshelpline site is more populated but alas, no way for anyone
 to log in and submit an event, or so it seems.
 the linux-india events module seems to have a rather clunky interface,
 and so far the only event it lists is foss.in. however, anyone can log
 in to submit an event.

 so which one, or which other, do you guys recommend?

 err...my another 5 paise...let's go for the mother-ship for now...and
other websites can use it as a central resource to update their
events sections (if they want to)

 :-)
 n

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