[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Immediate requirement of System Administrator at HCL

2007-11-21 Thread Atul Kumar

Designation: Linux Specialist.

Location: Noida, India.

Job Description / Responsibility

Should have around 5+ year of UNIX experience with 4+ years of
demonstrated experience and proficiency in managing and maintaining
Linux environment, will be responsible for 
-   Installation/Upgrade  Configuration of Servers - Network
Configuration, Firmware Install, OS Install, Filesystem Configuration.
-   User Admin on UNIX servers * Jumpstart Environment Management -
Develop Standards  Policies, Set Images, develop/Maintain scripts.
-   Patch implementation  maintenance * Licensing * Boot Prom
Management * Performance Management. 
-   Service Management - NIS/NIS+/DNS/NFS/Samba/Send Mail * Capacity
Planning. 
-   Security Administration - Add/remove/Troubleshoot Security
Policies. 
-   Tools Administration - Agent Installation * Device Management -
Installing  Configuring devices. 
-   Syslog  Log management * Documentation - Systems/tool/Service
management documents update. 
-   Process related activities * Scripts Maintenance. 
-   This role also needs the person to perform Webmaster / Admin
Activities on Apache / Tomcat or any other Webservers. 
-   Knowledge of Remedy ticketing will be a plus.
Qualifications:
Bachelors degree in Engineering (in Computer Science/ Electrical/
Electronic/ Communication) or Any Degree.

Key Skills:
1   Good Business Understanding
2   Problem solving and analysis
3   Global orientation
4   Good communication skills
5   Process oriented
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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Saleem Ansari

 From the man pages of uptime, you get

 Print the current time, the length of time the system has been up,
 the number of users on the system, and the average number of jobs
 in the run queue over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.


The  above does not seem to match on my system (Ubuntu Feisty).

$ man uptime
```
uptime gives a one line display of the following information.  The current
time, how long the system has been running,  how  many  users are currently
logged  on,  and the system load averages for the past 1, 5,and 15 minutes.
```

It gives no mention of run queue.


 But when actually you run uptime, you get load average instead
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/sa uptime
  12:36pm  up 223 days  3:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

 How does the jobs in the queue and load average relates to each other.
 could
 anybody help me to understand ?



Read here for detailed explanation of Load Averages.
http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/index.htm


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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
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,--[ On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:42:13PM +, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
| Hi All,
| 
| From the man pages of uptime, you get
| 
| Print the current time, the length of time the system has been up,
| the number of users on the system, and the average number of jobs
| in the run queue over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.
| 
| But when actually you run uptime, you get load average instead
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/sa uptime
|  12:36pm  up 223 days  3:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
| 
| How does the jobs in the queue and load average relates to each other. could
| anybody help me to understand ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)

| 
| Regards
| Yash

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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 21 Nov 2007, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 Hi All,

 From the man pages of uptime, you get

 Print the current time, the length of time the system has been up,
 the number of users on the system, and the average number of jobs
 in the run queue over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.

 But when actually you run uptime, you get load average instead
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/sa uptime
  12:36pm  up 223 days  3:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

 How does the jobs in the queue and load average relates to each
 other. could anybody help me to understand ?

This has been explained a number of times.  The last time was in 2004 :)

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi/7466/focus=7487

There was also a post on LIH in (yes!) 2001 by yours truly.  Enclosing 
that:

In Unix, a user process can be either ready to run or waiting for some
event (eg I/O completion, sleep, etc).  The system splits processor
time between ready-to-run processes through the scheduling algorithm
built into the kernel.  At any given time, then, one process is
running while other ready-to-run processes are waiting for their turn
on the processor(s).  (This is ignoring the kernel itself, which also
uses the processor.)

The three load average numbers are the average number of processes
which were ready to run and awaiting their turn on the processor in
the past 1, 5 and 15 minutes.  In other words, a first load average
number of 7 would mean that in the past minute, at any given time, on
the average there were 7 processes which were ready to run but not
running due to lack of processor time.

So in a sense the load average is a measure of the load on the system.
Higher load averages mean that the processor is unable to handle the
demands put onto it by the tasks running in the system.  However,
there are no fixed measures for defining what load average is high and
what is low.  I personally would start getting worried if a server
under my control was consistently showing load averages higher than,
say, 5; on the other hand, it all depends on what sort of tasks the
server is doing and how fast and often the kernel does context
switches.

Regards,

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[ilugd] [OT] Converting a non network printer to a network printer

2007-11-21 Thread Puneet Lakhina
Hi,
I have 2 computers at home, one desktop computer and a laptop. I share my
internet connection using a wireless router, hence have both my computers
are also on a network.I have printer(HP 5600 officejet all in 1) at home
which doesnt have an ethernet port for me connect it to a network. I was
thinking if its possible for me to connect my printer to the router by using
a USB to LAN converter.
So essentially what I mean is Printer's USB cord - USBtoLAN Converter(this
gives me an ethernet port) - router (using a cable)

Will this allow me to print from desktop and laptop?? or maybe my question
should be will my printer be able to accquire an ip address from the dhcp on
the router, and will this be accessible to me over the network for
printing??

Any other suggestions for converting the non network printer to a networked
one??

thanks
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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Yashpal Nagar
Saleem Ansari wrote:
 Read here for detailed explanation of Load Averages.
 http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/index.htm

   
Very interesting to know the difference between cpu utilization and 
load.

Do you also know where are the Dr. Gunther's Quiz answers?
http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/4/index.htm

Regards
Yash



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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Yashpal Nagar
Raj Mathur wrote:

 So in a sense the load average is a measure of the load on the system.
 Higher load averages mean that the processor is unable to handle the
 demands put onto it by the tasks running in the system.  However,
 there are no fixed measures for defining what load average is high and
 what is low.  I personally would start getting worried if a server
 under my control was consistently showing load averages higher than
 say, 5; on the other hand, it all depends on what sort of tasks the
 server is doing and how fast and often the kernel does context
 switches.

   
Apart from uptime, which tells about the load average in the form of 
average number of processes essentially in run_queue at a time, over 
last 1 minute, 5 minute and 15 minutes. There is another program called 
System Acitivty Report (SAR) which represents the CPU utilization in the 
form of percentages.

The CPU load monitored by SAR is shown in %

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/sa sar -f sa31|more
Linux 2.6.16.21-0.8-default (hostux2)   31/08/07

00:00:26CPU %user %nice   %system   %iowait
%steal %idle
00:01:26all  0.98  0.00  0.53  0.78  
0.00 97.70
00:02:26all  0.80  0.00  0.33  0.65  
0.00 98.22

How does this % relates to the uptime output? Does this % refers to the 
run_queue capacity? Is there any way we can modify run_queue.

In SAR's case, is it fair to sum the % of queues (excluding %idle) and 
conclude that as the total CPU load at that time?

Regards
Yash


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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Raj Mathur
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On Thursday 22 Nov 2007, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 Raj Mathur wrote:
  So in a sense the load average is a measure of the load on the
  system. Higher load averages mean that the processor is unable to
  handle the demands put onto it by the tasks running in the system. 
  However, there are no fixed measures for defining what load average
  is high and what is low.  I personally would start getting worried
  if a server under my control was consistently showing load averages
  higher than say, 5; on the other hand, it all depends on what sort
  of tasks the server is doing and how fast and often the kernel does
  context switches.

 Apart from uptime, which tells about the load average in the form of
 average number of processes essentially in run_queue at a time,
 over last 1 minute, 5 minute and 15 minutes. There is another program
 called System Acitivty Report (SAR) which represents the CPU
 utilization in the form of percentages.

 The CPU load monitored by SAR is shown in %

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/sa sar -f sa31|more
 Linux 2.6.16.21-0.8-default (hostux2)   31/08/07

 00:00:26CPU %user %nice   %system   %iowait
 %steal %idle
 00:01:26all  0.98  0.00  0.53  0.78
 0.00 97.70
 00:02:26all  0.80  0.00  0.33  0.65
 0.00 98.22

 How does this % relates to the uptime output? Does this % refers to
 the run_queue capacity? Is there any way we can modify run_queue.

No clue what run_queue is -- are you sure it's part of sar?

 In SAR's case, is it fair to sum the % of queues (excluding %idle)
 and conclude that as the total CPU load at that time?

The sar numbers are pretty straightforward if you have a grasp of the 
CPU states.  Imagine a system that runs just one program which does the 
following:

1. Calculate the inverse of a 100x100 matrix
2. Open a file on a floppy disk
3. Write the inverted matrix onto the floppy
4. Sleep for 30 seconds

When the program is calculating, the CPU is in user state.  When it's 
opening the file, it makes a call to the kernel and the kernel executes 
some code related to opening files.  At this time (when it's executing 
kernel code), the CPU is in system state.  When the program is writing 
the file, it's typically waiting for one write to complete (it is 
blocked) before issuing the next write command.  This is iowait state.

Idle state is self-explanatory -- the CPU is twiddling its thumbs 
waiting for someone to give it some work, like when the program above 
is sleeping.

So to sum up:

Times when the CPU is executing user code is counted in %user.
Times when the CPU is executing a system call (or running any other 
kernel code) is counted in %system.
Times when the CPU is waiting for some I/O to complete is counted 
in %iowait.
Times when the CPU is doing nothing is counted in %idle.

Since the CPU must be doing one of these things at any time, the sum of 
these percentages will always be 100.

If you find your CPU is spending a lot of time in iowait, it means your 
CPU is lying idle because one process (or possibly more) has issued a 
R/W call, and no other process is ready to run until that R/W 
completes.  You could probably add some comparatively CPU-intensive 
applications to that system and find little or no degradation in 
performance since the new applications will soak up CPU iowait time; in 
other words, the applications will be able to utilise the CPU while 
other processes are waiting for their R/W to complete.

Relationship between CPU states and load averages?  Just about the only 
one I can see is that if your CPU is 100% idle your load average should 
be 0 :)

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Kazim Zaidi
On 22/11/2007, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]

 So to sum up:

 Times when the CPU is executing user code is counted in %user.
 Times when the CPU is executing a system call (or running any other
 kernel code) is counted in %system.
 Times when the CPU is waiting for some I/O to complete is counted
 in %iowait.


I'm not sure I understand this. When a process requests I/O, it is blocked
(or removed from ready queue) and CPU moves on to execute next process
in the ready-to-run-queue. When the I/O completes, an event wakes up the
blocked process(es).
A process may be waiting for its I/O while CPU executing some user code.
Does this time counted in %user or %iowait?

Times when the CPU is doing nothing is counted in %idle.

 Since the CPU must be doing one of these things at any time, the sum of
 these percentages will always be 100.

 [snip]

If %user and %iowait overlap, then why is the sum 100?

Or, is %iowait the time when there are no processes in ready-queue
because all of them are waiting for I/O? I think that is idle time and not
iowait time.

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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Norat Saraswat
hi all
good day
i want to a  used(6 month)   laptop
if any one have and want to sell than tellme

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[ilugd] Thread Hijacking [was:Re: Uptime]

2007-11-21 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Norat Saraswat wrote:
 hi all
 good day
 i want to a  used(6 month)   laptop
 if any one have and want to sell than tellme

Now look here Norat, with whatever good intentions you may be having,
thread-hijacking [1] is really a bad way to go forward on a mailing list
(LUG list or any other). Take some time to compose a new mail and of
course try and be a bit polite :)

:sankarshan


[1] http://www.answers.com/topic/thread-hijacking
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[ilugd] some thing finding

2007-11-21 Thread Norat Saraswat
Hi all
i want a used and good condition laptop and not expencive
so plz if any one have it plz tell me

thanks and  warms regards


Norat Saraswat

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Re: [ilugd] Uptime

2007-11-21 Thread Raj Mathur
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On Thursday 22 Nov 2007, Kazim Zaidi wrote:
 On 22/11/2007, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip]

  So to sum up:
 
  Times when the CPU is executing user code is counted in %user.
  Times when the CPU is executing a system call (or running any other
  kernel code) is counted in %system.
  Times when the CPU is waiting for some I/O to complete is counted
  in %iowait.

 I'm not sure I understand this. When a process requests I/O, it is
 blocked (or removed from ready queue) and CPU moves on to execute
 next process in the ready-to-run-queue. When the I/O completes, an
 event wakes up the blocked process(es).
 A process may be waiting for its I/O while CPU executing some user
 code. Does this time counted in %user or %iowait?

When one process is waiting for I/O and another is running in (say) user 
state, the CPU is actually in user state.  That time will be accounted 
for in %user, not in %iowait.

 Times when the CPU is doing nothing is counted in %idle.

  Since the CPU must be doing one of these things at any time, the
  sum of these percentages will always be 100.

  [snip]

 If %user and %iowait overlap, then why is the sum 100?

 Or, is %iowait the time when there are no processes in ready-queue
 because all of them are waiting for I/O? I think that is idle time
 and not iowait time.

Nope, that is %iowait time.  Idle is when no process is doing anything.

If you want to see this in action, do the following on a relatively 
unloaded system:

- - Open up one terminal and run: sar -u 1 1
- - Open up another terminal and run: ls -lR /  /dev/null

Watch the %iowait times in the sar output go up as ls keeps waiting to 
read the disk.  Now start up some CPU-intensive process like glxgears 
(GNU Chess is even better) and watch the %iowait times go down.  This 
is because the time ls is spending waiting for I/O to complete is being 
soaked up by glxgears/gnuchess using up the CPU.

Regards,

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