Re: [ilugd] should the licenses be trivialised?
On Friday 14 Dec 2007, shirish wrote: > [snip] > Its your view-point that I'm doing what you think I'm doing. For me > its not. While saying that whatever I say literature is far-fetched > whatever I say is a product > of years of trying to know & understand. So while it may not be > 'creative' but it surely > is 'original', > There is also some history behind this stand of mine. On a forum, I > had written some > stuff some years ago, then that content got published with somebody > else attributed to it. > That time I came to know about creative commons. I also did take help > of the creative commons > mailing list to understand the ramifications of this. SInce after > that for 3 years now, have been > using the license for all my posts in various forums as well as > mailing lists. The idea is to share > the thoughts the way I want them to be shared. Is this such a > criminal act? If Shirish wants to license his mails under a CC licence why should we have any issues? IMO anyone is welcome to continue posting his/her messages under any licence that permits free redistribution. What I do object to is meaningless legal disclaimers and conditions on mails posted to mailing lists. If you (or your company, or your cat, or the aliens who're remote-controlling you from mars) don't want your mails redistributed, don't post them to publicly archived mailing lists. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] should the licenses be trivialised?
> Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:44:33 +0530 > From: Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] should the licenses be trivialised? was My first > meetat ilug-d > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On 12-Dec-07, at 6:58 PM, shirish wrote: > > > It might seem silly but the idea behind it are few things :- > > it think it is silly - you are trivialising the license > > > > 1. To expand creative commons use beyond just images in other spheres > > of life. (as in writing) > > note the word 'creative' - this is meant to protect genuine works of > creation. Not run of the mill talk. Unless you are contending that > every post you make is literature. > > > 2. Not just cc but telling people about the non-commercial aspect > > as well. > > 3. Making sure whatever I say gets attributed to whatever I'm saying. > > which means that in this quote - I have to attribute the quoted > material to you. I don't have the time to do this, so sue me > > > This works for both ways. > > net result is that it will turn people off - I once blogged about this: > > http://lawgon.livejournal.com/30420.html > > > -- > regards > > Kenneth Gonsalves > Associate, NRC-FOSS > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > > Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ > -- Hi Kenneth, I disagree with some of the points. Its your view-point that I'm doing what you think I'm doing. For me its not. While saying that whatever I say literature is far-fetched whatever I say is a product of years of trying to know & understand. So while it may not be 'creative' but it surely is 'original', There is also some history behind this stand of mine. On a forum, I had written some stuff some years ago, then that content got published with somebody else attributed to it. That time I came to know about creative commons. I also did take help of the creative commons mailing list to understand the ramifications of this. SInce after that for 3 years now, have been using the license for all my posts in various forums as well as mailing lists. The idea is to share the thoughts the way I want them to be shared. Is this such a criminal act? -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
On Thursday 13 Dec 2007, Amit Sharma wrote: > Hi, > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install > RHEL and use it without paying for it? AFAIR the RHEL software is free, but RH does have trademarks on the branding, icons and logos in RHEL. So while you may not be violating copyright by using RHEL without a licence, you would definitely be violating trademarks. As someone else suggested, either go for a support contract or use CentOS. Or just use Debian and forget about keeping up with the Junejas altogether :) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 57, Issue 19
> Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:02 +0530 > From: Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] My first meet at ilug-d > To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > 3. Making sure whatever I say gets attributed to whatever I'm saying. > > This works for both ways. > > Since you are concerned about licensing of such content, can I ask you > how you are quoting others text in your mails? > > It is commonly accepted that mails in such mailing lists are in the > public domain. If you are licensing any text, make sure you are only > licensing your own. > > - Sandip Sandip, Point taken, is this ok :) ? -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG
> Now would you as an individual not use ICICI simply because its ATM > service is based on Microsoft's software? Incorrect analogy. You should not be comparing an individual's choice in selecting the bank. You should be comparing the banks choice in selecting the ATM vendor/technology. If the IT honchos at ICICI feel that end-to-end integration with their internal systems is best achieved if ATM services are outsourced to a vendor having ".Net technology" then they are free to choose any vendor. No one is forcing them to choose a vendor whose technology is based on Linux. OR they can use their clout and leverage their bargaining position to force a vendor to custom develop a technology for them in .Net, if one is not available already. If you *have* to compare in individuals choice in choosing a bank based on their IT infrastructure, then yes, I do select a bank whose net-banking works in Firefox -- because that matters to me. If tomorrow none of the banks' site works in Firefox then I don't have the negotiating power to force them to develop one. The same logic may apply if someone is so touchy about ATM software -- which IMHO is highly unlikely. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days
Fri 14-Dec-2007: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days: = New/recent events: 1 Total events: 71 - 1. ILUG-Delhi meeting on Tue., Dec., 11th, at 5.30 pm. When: Tue, Dec 11, 2007 Where: Room. 4, School of Information Technology, JNU Contact: Gora Mohanty (gora_mohanty|at|yahoo.co.in) Link: http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin//event.cgi?action=showItem&iId=106 Event: ILUG-Delhi meeting Date:Tue., Dec. 11th Time:17:30 (5.30pm) Agenda: - Presentation by Danese Cooper of Intel on the Open Source Initiative (OSI) - Discussion of happenings at foss.in 2007 - Freed 2008 plan - Appointment of members to ILUG-Delhi office Participants: All on this l... = New Discussion forum postings: 0 Total postings: 966 = New News items: 0 Total News items: 258 = New Resources: 0 Total Resources: 0 = New comments: 0Total comments: 217 = New pictures: 4Total pictures: 224 - 1. By: Kush Tiwari Nos. of pictures: 2 Posted on: Dec 13, 2007 Link: http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin//pics.cgi?action=picsDirProfile&pdId=108 dear seniors, i am on initiative stage of linux..how can i make my future in Linux admin..plz give me some sugessions for that...i will be highly great full for that... 2. By: Kush Tiwari Nos. of pictures: 2 Posted on: Dec 13, 2007 Link: http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin//pics.cgi?action=picsDirProfile&pdId=107 dear seniors, i am on initiative stage of linux..how can i make my future in Linux admin..plz give me some sugessions for that...i will be highly grat full for that... = New members: 2 Total members: 6136 - 1. Kush Tiwari, User, utterpradesh, India 2. Rudra , User, , India = Send your suggestions, comments or feedback to admin_at_linux-delhi_dot_org -- This email is brought to you by http://www.linux-delhi.org/ - India Linux Users Group - Delhi. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
On 13-Dec-07, at 10:12 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: > hardware devices that become software applications affect a gestalt > change, especially if copylefted. w00t -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
The only real downside is using commodity chips for specialized tasks. Back in the days of dial up we had "win modems" which were a physical interface to the pstn, but the cpu was in charge of the transmissions, which caused a lot of overhead. I wonder what the overhead will be like with this software. Justin (The Devil's Advocate) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
Hi, My thoughts below: - On Dec 13, 2007 11:15 PM, Smruti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Sounds interesting. But when you get down to ground reality it is still not | possible to make hardware gpl complaint. \-- Why not? - | Hardware is tangible and it costs. We can make the architecture open source | but the hardware itself can't be made for free. \-- Make the hardware design open, produce it, and sell it with a price ... (1) You can also pay for Free Software. - | You can make the software that runs a calculator free but you cannot make a | CRT monitor that can be give for free. \-- Same as (1). - | And hardware cannot be shared and | kept concurrently simply because you can't make copies of it for free. \-- Design of hardware and selling are two different things? You can design open hardware, produce it, and sell it at a price to customers, and still provide them GPL code of the hardware. Useful references: http://www.opencores.org/ http://opencollector.org/ http://www.opensparc.net/ http://www.srisc.com/ SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
On Dec 13, 2007 11:15 PM, Smruti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds interesting. But when you get down to ground reality it is still not > possible to make hardware gpl complaint. Simply, because of the fact that > Hardware is tangible and it costs. We can make the architecture open source > but the hardware itself can't be made for free. yup. which is exactly why manifesting it as software rocks! > > You can make the software that runs a calculator free but you cannot make a > CRT monitor that can be give for free. And hardware cannot be shared and > kept concurrently simply because you can't make copies of it for free. yup! you're reiterating my points. we're on the same side of the fence here. > Smruti > :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
Sounds interesting. But when you get down to ground reality it is still not possible to make hardware gpl complaint. Simply, because of the fact that Hardware is tangible and it costs. We can make the architecture open source but the hardware itself can't be made for free. You can make the software that runs a calculator free but you cannot make a CRT monitor that can be give for free. And hardware cannot be shared and kept concurrently simply because you can't make copies of it for free. Smruti On Dec 13, 2007 10:12 PM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dear all, > > this story picked off slashdot excites me: > > Intel targets WiMAX with software radio device > > http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2007/12/11/42781/intel+targets+wimax+with+software+radio+device.htm > > why? > > a) gpl or copyleft does not normally work on hardware. (tangible > versus intangible economy...) > > b) s tanenbaum asserts anything that exists in hardware can exist as > software. > > c) ergo: when wimax, dvb-h, etc become more software-driven than > hardware driven, then gpl or copyleft may come to play a role in it's > license. > > when i look at the cheap electronic calculators being sold on the > streets of nehruplace for rs 50 to rs 100, i still get to buy one > tangible, hardware, calculator that i own and can only give away if i > wish, but not share AND keep concurrently. > > when i click on the 'applications' menu under ubuntu or any other > distro, then goto 'accessories'>'calculator' i get a similar device as > software, muft and mukt, and can give it away to everyone and still > keep it concurrently, thanks to its gpl license. > > hardware devices that become software applications affect a gestalt > change, especially if copylefted. > > :-) > niyam > > > -- > niyam bhushan > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- "We expect our heroes to be flawed. Heroes without flaws would not be successful. Yet in the end, it's not the flaws we need to remember but the achievements." ~iCon ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
- Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:36:47 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ? >CentOS 4 == RHEL4 in terms of features compatibility etc. >Justin Rather you mean CentOS 5 == RHEL5. Sudeep Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] intel software radio for wimax, DVB-H, etc
dear all, this story picked off slashdot excites me: Intel targets WiMAX with software radio device http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2007/12/11/42781/intel+targets+wimax+with+software+radio+device.htm why? a) gpl or copyleft does not normally work on hardware. (tangible versus intangible economy...) b) s tanenbaum asserts anything that exists in hardware can exist as software. c) ergo: when wimax, dvb-h, etc become more software-driven than hardware driven, then gpl or copyleft may come to play a role in it's license. when i look at the cheap electronic calculators being sold on the streets of nehruplace for rs 50 to rs 100, i still get to buy one tangible, hardware, calculator that i own and can only give away if i wish, but not share AND keep concurrently. when i click on the 'applications' menu under ubuntu or any other distro, then goto 'accessories'>'calculator' i get a similar device as software, muft and mukt, and can give it away to everyone and still keep it concurrently, thanks to its gpl license. hardware devices that become software applications affect a gestalt change, especially if copylefted. :-) niyam -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
No, RHEL refers to the package of the binaries with the support contract. You do have free options however. Fedora Core is the upstream community driven Red Hat distribution which is usually 2 revs ahead of RHEL FC 5 refers to RHEL 3 IIRC. CentOS is a binary compatible distribution which tracks RHEL main, but strips out the Red Hat branding etc. CentOS 4 == RHEL4 in terms of features compatibility etc. Justin ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
On Dec 13, 2007 4:47 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 4:22 PM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL > and > > use it without paying for it? > > > > > >>Why not CentOS, like the link in my earlier mail suggests? > ___+1 > > > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- www.atuljha.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG
Vikas Rawal wrote: > It is obviously an incorrect analogy. First, you are comparing > decision-making of a corporation with that of an individual. Second, I > do not produce alternative solutions for running ATMs. If I did, I > would in fact want to work with a bank that ran it ATMs on my platform. os/2 ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
You can use CentOS. For self clarification for RHEL, do read online license on redhat.com ( product specific.) On Dec 13, 2007 4:47 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 4:22 PM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL and > > use it without paying for it? > > > > > Why not CentOS, like the link in my earlier mail suggests? > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
On Dec 13, 2007 4:22 PM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL and > use it without paying for it? > > Why not CentOS, like the link in my earlier mail suggests? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
No. On Dec 13, 2007 4:22 PM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL and > use it without paying for it? > > > regards, > amit > > > > > > - > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is RHEL free ?
On Dec 13, 2007 4:22 PM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL and > use it without paying for it? > > Looks like it. http://mandrivausers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t33788.html -- Manish ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] is RHEL free ?
Hi, Suppose if i don't want any support from Red Hat, can i install RHEL and use it without paying for it? regards, amit - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG
On Dec 13, 2007 10:15 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vikas Rawal wrote: > >>> After all, in principle, they could go to another vendor who will > >>> host their website on their platform!! > >> Would you stop using banks because their ATMs are based on Windows? > >> > > > > It is obviously an incorrect analogy. First, you are comparing > > decision-making of a corporation with that of an individual. > > Huh? > > Microsoft -> ICICI > > Akamai caching service -> ATM technology > > > Second, I > > do not produce alternative solutions for running ATMs. If I did, I > > would in fact want to work with a bank that ran it ATMs on my platform. > > Huh again? > > There are other ATM OSes, but the Microsoft based ones are more popular > ,current and featured. > > Now would you as an individual not use ICICI simply because its ATM > service is based on Microsoft's software? > Well unlike Microsoft, I am not in the business of selling a popular OS, the sales of which depend primarily on existing install base inertia and snazzy marketing; And consequently, it would not kill me to admit that one of the companies I deal with on a daily basis thinks that the 'alternative' is a better option than my OS offering for hosting important data. I mean - download.microsoft.com is running on Linux! Me and my Linux loving friends had a hearty laugh over it, much like Niyam's when he pointed out this thing in the beginning of this thread, and much to the chagrin of all the windows lovers around us. Let's not let this one go unnoticed.. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux & FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) & formation of College LUG
> > > Second, I > > do not produce alternative solutions for running ATMs. If I did, I > > would in fact want to work with a bank that ran it ATMs on my platform. > > Huh again? > > There are other ATM OSes, but the Microsoft based ones are more popular > ,current and featured. > > Now would you as an individual not use ICICI simply because its ATM > service is based on Microsoft's software? > > Anyway, if my analogy is not clear to you, we can stop here. > Such matters do affect decision making of individuals. And concerns are not merely about freedom in software technologies. There are other aspects of freedom that are important, and perhaps more so. I do not deal with ICICI bank for reasons very similar to my choice of using linux on my computer. But I want to reiterate, the issue here is not decision taken by an individual about using a service. We were talking about decision taken by a corporation to use service provided by another corporation using a rival software. The difference is vital. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
