[ilugd] Sorry for the mail

2007-12-29 Thread hemant ritturaj
Dear All,

I am sorry to all those who got my abrupt mail. I was trying to reply to a
mail, by mistake it was cc to mailing list as well

Sorry for that

Wishes

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Re: [ilugd] Sorry for the mail

2007-12-29 Thread नोरत
no never mind


On 29/12/2007, hemant ritturaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear All,

 I am sorry to all those who got my abrupt mail. I was trying to reply to a
 mail, by mistake it was cc to mailing list as well

 Sorry for that

 Wishes

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 Hemant Ritturaj Kushwaha
 PhD Student
 Center for Computational Biology and Bioinformatics
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi-110067
 Phone: 09868801604
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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Linux Lingam
dear tirveni,

  SNIP
 
  once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
  snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
  patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?
[snip]

 Two hard disks with same specs,
a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
 one.Andformatted the partitions in same
 type.Set the bootable flag
b- Then because of the time consumed doing the dd , looked around and
 found partimage . It backs up the partition with the data and can restore
 the partition( bigger than the backed up partition).
c- After using the partimage, to copy and restore.
 Had to use the dd , dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd to copy the MBR.

 more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287522

 Tirveni

thanks for the info. this sounds like an adventurous and fun-filled
roll-your-own-rollback, and worth doing. am sure soon someone may
chime in with a RAID-based solution as well.

my point: all this is hindsight.
at this moment, when i start fresh, with an april 2007 feisty fawn,
how do i roll it forward so it stops at all updates and patches for
all main, restricted, universe, and third-party apps, till Oct 2007,
and does not install any software update beyond that cut-off time?

you see, i can't even roll back. if i install a fresh feisty and apply
all patches and updates, it will apply them at one shot from those at
the current date. in one giant leap. if i could hypothetically roll
back, it would roll back one giant step back, to my fresh install.
sigh!

the updates and patches on ubuntu feisty beyond oct 2007, makes it
unusable on my ageing hardware.

thanks for your assistance, and am still hopeful there could be a
possible solution somewhere, somehow


niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-29 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,
[snip]
 There was recently a
 sprint by the django community. About a 100 people all around the
 world participated. The main group was in Chicago, with other smaller
 groups in other cities and many individuals sitting in their homes.
 It was all done over IRC. IRC can be used in two ways:

 1. Projected on a screen where all the participants can see the
 progress. Incidentally the minutes can also be entered in real time
 on a wiki and projected on the screen. We have successfully
 demonstrated this at our meeting in Chennai (Gora had attended)

 2. If wifi is available, members with laptops can also use IRC.
[snip]


thanks kenneth for a constructive idea. i personally never approached
the idea of integrating IRC with a live group discussion in the way
you've mentioned. an overhead projector seems to be the key to this
riddle, while live IRC-ing by guys in the room makes it more
interactive. a blog could also work.
nevertheless, some inelegance still exists: what's being said in the
room needs to be typed live, and in realtime speed, so that those
reading the blog or the IRC posts can read and respond in realtime.
tough! inputting snippets or points does not really work too well and
has its own sets of problems.

perhaps integrating IRC with an overhead projector, having it blogged,
*and* having a live web-feed' for those who want to hear the words and
tone-of-voice rather than read the text and try to interpret the tone,
could work.

maybe not.

what are your views, everyone?

we do eventually need to solve this problem so we can always have more
active participation in our public meets, and less carbon-footprints
too.

regards
niyam


niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Jasbir Khehra
Hi Niyam,
I am also using Ubuntu Feisty on an old Cyrix-III box. If you are
worried about Ubuntu upgrading from Feisty to Gusty, well it wont
until unless you specifically  tell it to 'dist-upgrade' to the +1
version. So the updates you receive post Gusty launch are specific to
Feisty and are mostly security updates or backports,updates  (if you
have the these repositories enabled in the sources list). IIRC Ubuntu
will support Feisty security updates till April 08.
So in your case while updating your freshly installed  Feisty it will
update to the latest packages from the Feisty branch of the
repository.
Mostly its the kernel updates which may botch old h/w systems, in my
case mouse stop working so simply reverted back to the old kernel .
Niyam can you recall the specific package update which might have
caused your system to go into turbulent weather? ( /var/log/dpkg.log*
files might be of help).

To take a snapshot of the installed system you can try APTonCD [1] , I
havnt used it myself but all it will help is in saving you bandwidth.
Or you can just dump /var/cache/apt/archives/ from system to system

[1] http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net

Cheers,
Jasbir
P.S ubuntu-in Mailing list is also very active.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread linuxlingam
Dear jasbir,

thanks for your respone and taking your cue promptly subscribed to the
ubuntu-in mailing list.

i have not opted for dist-upgrade in feisty, just regular maintenance
updates. The ones post oct2007 demand more ram, so until then the
system is doing a swap dance.
I therefore dont want updates beyond oct2007.
How do i do that?
Niyam

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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
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 linuxlingam == linuxlingam  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
linuxlingam Dear jasbir,

linuxlingam thanks for your respone and taking your cue promptly 
subscribed to the
linuxlingam ubuntu-in mailing list.

linuxlingam i have not opted for dist-upgrade in feisty, just regular 
maintenance
linuxlingam updates. The ones post oct2007 demand more ram, so until then 
the
linuxlingam system is doing a swap dance.
linuxlingam I therefore dont want updates beyond oct2007.
linuxlingam How do i do that?

I hope your /var/log/dpkg.log from old box is still there. Following
'awk' script will output what all packages with their versions were
installed before a given date when your system broke. Set value of
BROKEDATE with the appropriate date:

- 88
# update.awk
BEGIN {
# date when stuff broke
BROKEDATE=2007-11-20
}
/status installed/ {
if($1  BROKEDATE) 
{
# $1 - data, $5 - pkg name, $6 - pkg version
# print $1 $5 $6
PKGS[$5] = $6;
}
}
/not-installed/ {
delete PKGS[$5];
}
END {
for(i in PKGS)
{
print i PKGS[i];
}
}
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Following is the usage:

$ awk -f update.awk /var/log/dpkg.log 
kgpg 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
libgail18 1.20.0-0ubuntu1
libxt6 1:1.0.5-3
kscd 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
...

Now once you've versions, you can 'wget' the respective packages from
repositories and install them using 'dpkg -i', hmm... ?

Post-installation, you can prevent any updates to desired packages
using apt pinning.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-29 Thread Linux Lingam
On Dec 30, 2007 12:39 AM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hope your /var/log/dpkg.log from old box is still there. Following
 'awk' script will output what all packages with their versions were
 installed before a given date when your system broke. Set value of
 BROKEDATE with the appropriate date:

 - 88
 # update.awk
 BEGIN {
 # date when stuff broke
 BROKEDATE=2007-11-20
[snip]
 - 88


this is brilliant. thanks ashish.

 Following is the usage:

 $ awk -f update.awk /var/log/dpkg.log
 kgpg 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
 libgail18 1.20.0-0ubuntu1
 libxt6 1:1.0.5-3
 kscd 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
 ...

 Now once you've versions, you can 'wget' the respective packages from
 repositories and install them using 'dpkg -i', hmm... ?

yyup!

 Post-installation, you can prevent any updates to desired packages
 using apt pinning.

 HTH

this is just what i needed. thanks so much!
just my bad that i received this in the morning,. yesterday evening i
reformatted the feisty partition and installed a fresh feisty. then
boldly decided to apply updates and patches to see what happens.
miraculously, everything works with no swap-dance or
gestating-whale-sluggishness.

am just installing what i feel might have been the cause of all this
heart-burn: audio and video codecs. will know by afternoon if the
dance starts again.

if all works okay, will use your tip for this roll-your-own-rollback
and hopefully live to tell the tale.


thanks, and hope to see you at JNU in a while for the freed.in sangatthan.

regards
niyam


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