[ilugd] microsoft educates children on copyright 'respect'. time for freed.in

2008-02-14 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,

microsoft's clever new project to teach children about copyright,
since some study shows them children respect it when told about the
threat of jail-term. the story's here:

http://informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206503467

and the clever new project is here:
http://www.mybytes.com/

all the more reason for all of you to come hoppin' and skippin' to
http://freed.in and breathe some free air while it lasts.

microsoft's initiative is a whole new twist the message of freed.in
into a new context:
knowledge shall set you free
implying ignorance of the law shall get you jail-term.

i'd love to discuss this vs free as in muft and mukt knowledge, at freed.in.
among several other subjects.

please register at freed.in and get started.



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niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] Creative Capitalism

2008-02-14 Thread Linux Lingam
  
   b) he's taking the most measured approach yet in recorded history, to
   bring principles of capitalism to charity.



  I have been thinking seriously about such issues, and feel that
  one could make a convincing case that Bill Gates, through the work
  of his foundation has done more tangible good than the free
  software movement. [snip]

this is true. sometimes i feel the historians of the future may just
label him the robin hood of the software industry, since history does
tend to gloss and distort facts over time.
in any case, the facts speak for themselves. the incredible wealth he
amassed is being distributed by his own hands into, and i repeat, the
most measured approached yet in recorded history, of capitalism for
sustainable development.


  While I do not at all accept Microsoft's predatory policies,
  nor the attempts of institutions like Microsoft India to
  claim that somehow the charity of the Bill and Melinda Gates
  Foundation means that governments should buy more Windows
  desktops, ...

oh! i'd love citations and references on this point. for a lot of
other stuff i tend to study.
do you have any?



   c) gautam buddha, mahavir, and a few saints who thought hard about the
   inequality of wealth always found an easy way to equality: donate
   wealth and become poor themselves. alas, all the wealth given away
   through thousands of years by hundreds of wealthy people has not
   eradicated poverty. yet. it has only made the wealthy poor by their
   own choice, and helped quite a few assuage their 'money guilt' perhaps
   because, as mario puzo once said 'behind every fortune there is a
   crime.'

  Double bah!

  Anybody who hides behind any kind of -ism, or resorts to invoking
  the names of great people, has already abdicated any personal
  responsibility.

not true. i mention *only* buddha and mahavir, as these were very very
rich and wealthy kings. buddha was like the billgates of his kingdom.
not only did he donate his wealth, he actually walked his own kingdom
as a beggar living in turn completely on the charity of his own former
people. that *is* awe-inspiring. buddha did not donate what he could
spare, he donated everything.

the other reason why i mention these two, is because in my personal
dignity and perspective of life, i find inspiration in the life and
works of enlightened people, just like you may find with the works of
richard stallman and gora. each to their own. we call it freedom, eh?
finally, inspiration does not mean we necessarily abdicate personal
responsibility, but i do understand that there could be cases where
this happens. let me clarify, not in my case. i cite them for their
approach to wealth and charity, to study and draw our conclusions.


It does not matter whether it is Hinduism,
  Buddhism, capitalism, Marxism, or even Gora-ism. Not that there
  weren't great people that did great things. However, the world is
  a living, breathing, dynamic, thing, and at every moment poses
  unique challenges. If your response is driven by any kind of
  ideology, it is bound to be inadequate. Gautam Buddha never had
  to contend with the Internet, though I would have liked to see
  his response to the ubiquitous availability of pr0n.


great question. the answer is simple.
the approach of buddhism, especially zen, is 'yes to everything'.
i presume buddha would have said if you find  a problem with poPcORN
on the internet,
then obviously the problem is not with the internet, it is with you.
use this as an opportunity to wake yourself up. or words to that effect.
Find Nirvana in poPcorn over the web. so Zen!

ok, we're so way off-topic, but gosh! this topic is fun.
so those interested to discuss this further, we should meet offline
over chai and coffee,
and also touch on a topic that i find equally fascinating:
what would have been the response of enlightened people to the world
of free software, copyrights, and DRM? this especially because such
individuals have almost always given birth to the publishing and
dissemination of scriptures and techniques and even medicine.

so, if buddha was alive today and contending with the internet,
i'd ask him to point his Inner Browser to http://freed.in, and submit a talk.


  Regards,
  Gora

regards
niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] Call For Volunteers Freed.in 2008

2008-02-14 Thread yogesh singh
hi buddy


i m sorry but where i m supposed to send my information regarding
registration.
i mean there shoul be some email id or i have to send this to the mailing
list


waiting for your response

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 7:51 PM, tirveni yadav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source India Week reach Delhi!

2008-02-14 Thread Shiv

Rahul Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Commercial]

Open Source India Week, earlier known as LinuxAsia, starts off tomorrow at 
Pragati Maidaan (Hall 5) with a keynote by Brian Behlendorf!

How ironic! The fiasco with Micro$oft last time has probably led EFY to rebrand 
 LinuxAsia as OSI Week. Wonder if I would still like to attend...




With Warm Regards, 
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Re: [ilugd] Call For Volunteers Freed.in 2008

2008-02-14 Thread tirveni yadav
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM, yogesh singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 hi buddy


 i m sorry but where i m supposed to send my information regarding
 registration.
 i mean there shoul be some email id or i have to send this to the mailing
 list

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Tirveni Yadav

Freed.in 2008 Knowledge Shall Set You Free
22 - 24 February 2008, JNU , New Delhi
http://freed.in Freedom in Technology  Software
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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-14 Thread PJ
आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 ,--[ On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 07:42:44AM +, pj wrote:
 
 [snipped]
 
 Within x I'd maybe mangle together xwd with -nobdrs,throwing in
 xwininfo (applied to firefox) to extract firefox's window id from
 it followed by convert
 
 I'll be glad if you post how to figure out, Firefox's web UI's window
 id using xwininfo, and obviously programatically :) .
 

Yeah, xlsclients -l -a is what I really meant. Though that doesn't list
the id of the window we want either. So beats me how you'd do it neatly
this relatively lightweight way. Though you can certainly copy the entire
display (with the -screen option of xwd), and crop the bits you want
in a rather lameass fashion.

PJ



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2008-02-14 Thread nkapoor
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