Re: [ilugd] Linux for the geek gods?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Pratul Kalia wrote: Recently there was a thread about Mandriva being an easy to use, beginner distro. And, I remember lawgon writing its not much used by geeks, as it isn't hack friendly? :D In response, let me ask the list, what distros do you recommend for geeks then? Someone who likes to get his hands dirty, and feels happy to do so? What should he/she use? Troll trying to start a distro war? :) Just kidding. I think you can get your hands sufficiently dirty with LFS: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ -- Manish ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux for the geek gods?
thanks Manish for LFS first time i hear about LFS and verey much xcited to use it :) On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Pratul Kalia wrote: Recently there was a thread about Mandriva being an easy to use, beginner distro. And, I remember lawgon writing its not much used by geeks, as it isn't hack friendly? :D In response, let me ask the list, what distros do you recommend for geeks then? Someone who likes to get his hands dirty, and feels happy to do so? What should he/she use? Troll trying to start a distro war? :) Just kidding. I think you can get your hands sufficiently dirty with LFS: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ -- Manish ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ** Vinay Yadav B.tech(IT) , JSSATEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] del.icio.us/vinayrks *** ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux for the geek gods?
On 5/7/08, Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I would want a distro that has stupid support, incomplete repos etc, because that's nice for hackers? (Yeah, he will have to solve 12 problems just to boot, and compile everything from source, lol) Use gentoo, Once configured no distro can match robustness of gentoo -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog http://www.hostcurry.com -- We are back When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux for the geek gods?
meh... looks like Gentoo winning till now :) And no, I'm least interested in the OS wars, I have battled many wars already ( rather, sneakily exited them, like perl vs python, vim vs emacs ). This is just everyone's POV. cheers! Pratul ( PS: vim sucks, Perl sucks, muhaha!) -- dum vivimus, vivamus 70 72 61 74 75 6C http://pratul.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] SCIM and openoffice on Ubuntu hardy
abbe [~] chateau $ export |fgrep IM This is what I get. declare -x GTK_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge declare -x QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge declare -x XIM=SCIM declare -x XIM_ARGS=-d declare -x XIM_PROGRAM= declare -x XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] SCIM and openoffice on Ubuntu hardy
- 88 abbe [~] chateau $ export |fgrep IM - 88 Ashish, There seems to be some problem because of scim XIM support module does not get loaded. I was trying to follow instructions at http://www.scim-im.org/wiki/faq/general/why_xim_apps_does_not_work The output for the following command for me is 0. ps aux | grep scim-launcher.*-f x11 | grep -v grep | wc -l When I load scim with scim -d -c socket -f x11 -e socket, scim is loaded fine. But clicking on the scim icon in the system tray does not show me any languages. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scim -d -c socket -f x11 -e socket Smart Common Input Method 1.4.7 Launching a SCIM process with x11... Loading socket Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.7 Starting SCIM as daemon ... SCIM has been successfully launched. ** Thanks very much for your help, Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] SCIM and openoffice on Ubuntu hardy
- 88 abbe [~] chateau $ export |fgrep IM - 88 Perhaps one problem in my setup was that skim was also installed. I have not removed it. The output of your commands now is as follows. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ . /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim-bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export XIM XIM_PROGRAM GTK_IM_MODULE XIM_ARGS QT_IM_MODULE DEPENDS [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scim [1] 12689 Smart Common Input Method 1.4.7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd... Loading simple Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading socket FrontEnd module ... Starting SCIM as daemon ... Launching a SCIM process with x11... Loading socket Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.7 Starting SCIM ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ooffice javaldx failed! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export |fgrep IM declare -x GTK_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge declare -x QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge declare -x XIM=SCIM declare -x XIM_ARGS=-d declare -x XIM_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/scim declare -x XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM ** Note that when I load scim like this, I am unable to change languages even for the terminal from where it was launched. Right clicking the system icon does not work at all. If, however, I launch scim without your commands, I can change the language and use it in the terminal and applications like gedit. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Running scripts on interface activation
This might be an ubuntu specific query. I would like certain scripts to be run after an interface comes up(like tun0) and another to be run after the interface goes down. Now I am sure there is a mechanism to trap this, but for some frustating reason am unable to find it. I would appreciate a clue to go further on this. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Are there any Mandriva users in here?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: yes. Mandriva rocks big time in terms of hardware support, GUI tools and Newbie friendliness. Thanks for your feedback Kenneth. We have been discussing in ilug-tvm (http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm) to promote Mandriva among newbie users. There was nobody in our group who was a long term Mandriva user so we wanted to get some feedback from somebody who had been using it for a reasonably long period of time. Thank you once again. Cheers Anoop -- http://www.zyxware.com http://www.anoopjohn.com http://www.thondomraughts.com Be the change you wish to see in the world, M. K. Gandhi ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Running scripts on interface activation
On 5/7/08, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be an ubuntu specific query. I would like certain scripts to be run after an interface comes up(like tun0) and another to be run after the interface goes down. Now I am sure there is a mechanism to trap this, but for some frustating reason am unable to find it. I would appreciate a clue to go further on this. man interfaces ( search for iface options ) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] pvrcinemas.com: Hall of shame?
[snip]
Did you receive any response from their side?
nope.
I fear the same. They are going to go housefulls (as
long as {b,h,t,k}ollywood keeps churning out movies),
even if they miss a handful of Linux users.
well we are promoting open standards.
[snip]
Even when they don't have enough motivation to invest
in re-designing their website, we ought to bug them -
karmanye vaadhikaaraste maa phaleshu kadaachan :-)
nah! you want to be more successful? write to various hollywood
studios directly.
you see, hollywood is quite warm to gnulinux, and the idea that
cinemas can't promote
their films suitably through collatoral is enough for them to see
component-video-Red.
go figure.
regards
niyam
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Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Just wanted to share a quick update on my quest to reclaim M$ tax. I have been following up with Lenovo customer care for past few days (email and phone) and today I got a call from some executive from Lenovo Singapore. He wanted to ask why I disagreed with the license and told that this is unusual and there is no process/policy as of now. I told him that I felt more powerful, creative and in-control on my preferred OS and that I would have appreciated Lenovo much more if they gave customer wider choice including buying the machine with no OS. He assured me that he would follow it up and keep me posted. nope. it is your legal option to say no, so you did. m$ is legally bound to refund you. lenovo has to figure out how. did you have witnesses, and/or video-document the process with witnesses, when you clicked 'no' just so it is clear you never installed, copied, or ever used that bundled os, ever? you must carefully use the web to your advantage: 01. document, blog, video-document, everything. 02. post on websites, publicly-archived mailing lists. 03. especially any communication from their side. 04. keep noting the time-taken for each task. 05. fortify your case with precedents set elsewhere. yes, people have demanded and got back their money. regards niyam -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] SCIM and openoffice on Ubuntu hardy
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Vikas == Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Vikas Perhaps one problem in my setup was that skim was also installed. I
Vikas have not removed it. The output of your commands now is as
Vikas follows.
abbe [~] chateau $ dpkg -l |awk '/(s(c|k)im|m17n)/ ! /uim/ { print $2 }'
libm17n-0
libm17n-dev
libscim8c2a
libskim0
m17n-db
scim
scim-bridge-agent
scim-bridge-client-gtk
scim-bridge-client-qt
scim-gtk2-immodule
scim-modules-socket
scim-modules-table
scim-qtimm
scim-tables-additional
skim
Vikas
Vikas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ . /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim-bridge
Vikas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export XIM XIM_PROGRAM GTK_IM_MODULE XIM_ARGS
QT_IM_MODULE DEPENDS
Vikas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scim
You don't need to launch scim manually, that'll get launched by the
app, with the help of environment variables. Try running 'gedit' in
above terminal instead of scim.
Are you able to type in gedit ?
[snipped]
Vikas Note that when I load scim like this, I am unable to change languages
Vikas even for the terminal from where it was launched. Right clicking the
Vikas system icon does not work at all.
Well that is because, when you launch manually, scim is not
responsible for any text window, so thats why it is not display any
language menu.
Vikas If, however, I launch scim without your commands, I can change the
Vikas language and use it in the terminal and applications like gedit.
In above case scim is activated for the text window in gedit and other
apps, thats why you're getting menus.
HTH
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Re: [ilugd] SCIM and openoffice on Ubuntu hardy
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 02:48:52AM +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
abbe [~] chateau $ dpkg -l |awk '/(s(c|k)im|m17n)/ ! /uim/ { print $2 }'
libm17n-0
libm17n-dev
libscim8c2a
libskim0
m17n-db
scim
scim-bridge-agent
scim-bridge-client-gtk
scim-bridge-client-qt
scim-gtk2-immodule
scim-modules-socket
scim-modules-table
scim-qtimm
scim-tables-additional
skim
I have all of these except the m17n stuff. Am installing those just
now to see if they are the culprits.
You don't need to launch scim manually, that'll get launched by the
app, with the help of environment variables. Try running 'gedit' in
above terminal instead of scim.
Are you able to type in gedit ?
I got it.
Yes, I am able to launch gedit and type in gedit. But if I launch
ooffice, I can only type in Hindi. I get the scim icon in the system
tray, and I can choose the language. But even when I chose Hindi, I
get only english characters in ooffice.
Thanks very much for all your help.
Vikas
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Re: [ilugd] Are there any Mandriva users in here?
On 08-May-08, at 12:18 AM, Anoop John wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: yes. Mandriva rocks big time in terms of hardware support, GUI tools and Newbie friendliness. Thanks for your feedback Kenneth. We have been discussing in ilug-tvm (http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm) to promote Mandriva among newbie users. There was nobody in our group who was a long term Mandriva user so we wanted to get some feedback from somebody who had been using it for a reasonably long period of time. Thank you once again. PLUG - Pune LUG, has a large number of Mandriva users, and although they are distro neutral, in practice they are almost a Mandriva shop - you could contact them too in the unlikely event of having any problems. The ultimate test of any distro is if it can play the ogg files here: http://arichuvadi.nrcfosshelpline.in/web/displaylesson/3/14/ afaik only Mandriva and Suse do it out of the box -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Running scripts on interface activation
+++ Jasbir Khehra [08/05/08 00:30 +0530]: On 5/7/08, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be an ubuntu specific query. I would like certain scripts to be run after an interface comes up(like tun0) and another to be run after the interface goes down. Now I am sure there is a mechanism to trap this, but for some frustating reason am unable to find it. I would appreciate a clue to go further on this. man interfaces ( search for iface options ) I use NetworkManager. Doesn't it ignore /etc/network/interfaces? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Are there any Mandriva users in here?
2008/5/7 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The ultimate test of any distro is if it can play the ogg files here: http://arichuvadi.nrcfosshelpline.in/web/displaylesson/3/14/ afaik only Mandriva and Suse do it out of the box It did not work in Firefox 3, but epiphany played it correctly. I'm on Debian sid (I can't say it default though, it is a messy state with broken X and KDE 4). These days some stuff that does not work in Firefox like the vodafone account service, work in epiphany. It was just bug in the totem plugin and it is fixed now http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504795 Just that Mandriva and Suse had mplayer by default and others used totem. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
