Re: [ilugd] IPv6 internet (through tunnel) available in Sarai Lab

[Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल]

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Karanbir Singh writes:
> Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
>> References:
>> [0] - http://www.sarai.net/
>> [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6in4
>> [2] - http://www.tunnelbroker.net/

> ! www.sixxs.net ?

SixXS staff demands lesser latency, which won't be possible here, and
you won't be allocated a subnet if latency is this much. I've measured
latencies to SixXS PoPs[1], and I've not found any single PoP < 300ms.

References:
[1] - 
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/wanna-measure-latencies-to-different-servers-via-icmp/

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Re: [ilugd] IPv6 internet (through tunnel) available in Sarai Lab

[Gora Mohanty]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:43:43 +0530
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल) wrote:
[...]
> Today, I've connected Sarai[0] Lab to IPv6 internet through the IPv6
> tunnel (6in4[1]) provided by HE[2]. The setup was very easy, and I'm
> done in less than 20 minutes.
[...]

Thank you for setting all this up, and sorry about all
the hassles from our side.

> But after few minutes, we noticed it is not working. On investigation,
> we figured out that internet connection is not working :-D.
> I mentioned this to Shantanu who told me Internet Connections
> are not stable in Sarai, as in you can't rely on them,
> non-deterministic.
[...]

Yes, there have been horrendous network problems at
Sarai. I am told that we are getting a new physical
line Real Soon Now (TM), but cannot commit to when
it will be available.

Is anyone else ready to offer Ashish the possibility
of setting up a ipv6 test-bed? From what I understand,
this requires allowing Ashish temporary administrative
access to the gateway to setup the tunnel, and a static
IP.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

[linuxlingam]

You ask: "which software is best for video-editing" under foss and gnu/linux?

answer: video-edit software like kino, cinerella etc are not as
robust,mature,and friendly or professional like fcp, avids, etc.
Hence, a few people use the video-edit features of blender3d.but the
software looks intimidating.
Gaping-hole of pandav-foss: video-compositing, video-edit, non-linear
edit, and even dvd-authoring software, that are at par with their
proprietary kaurava-siblings.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Oper Source Day

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM, RHK HK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is the programme open Source Day on 20 Sep. 2008 is finalized.
> Please send the schedule and venue.
> Regards,
> Ramesh
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Yes it has been finalised. 20th Sept at Sarai. You may see a thread posted
by Mr Mohanti. We hope to see you and your buddies there :-)

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/9/16 Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> , or another distro made for multimedia.
> >
> > http://www.artistx.org/ might be worth a try
>
> that's a live dvd-distro, but it still peddles rosegarden...
>
>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Praveen
>
> Which software would you recommend for movie editing, I found Kino,
Kdenlive and Cinerella to be quite unstable to do some serious editing. Is
there anything as good as FCP, Avid, velocity or Media 100?

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Re: [ilugd] IPv6 internet (through tunnel) available in Sarai Lab

[Karanbir Singh]

Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
> References:
> [0] - http://www.sarai.net/
> [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6in4
> [2] - http://www.tunnelbroker.net/

! www.sixxs.net ?

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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Karanbir Singh]

Raj Mathur wrote:
> No issues with sendmail relaying (or any other SMTP-related activity) 
> using TLS.  For tips, HOWTOs and tricks try this on Google-ji:
> 
>   sendmail starttls howto

worth keeping in mind, that you cant *enforce* ssl/tls, if the remote 
smtp refuses to either verify your cert, or does not do ssl/tls at all, 
most people will fall back to clear text, since not delivering to non 
ssl/tls accepting hosts would mean a large part of the internet is not 
emailable from your site. Also same implications for inbound.


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Re: [ilugd] Need some good debian repos

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

>
> > >
> > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
> > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
> > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
> >
> >
> > >> why have you put redundant lines over here?
> >
>
> it a normal result of copy paste from multiple source. well repetition is
> not needed,


Correct. If you are using Lenny, just replace etch with lenny.
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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Raj Mathur]

On Wednesday 17 Sep 2008, Anand Kapoor wrote:
> I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
> like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
> traffic.  Does anybody have any pointers or location to someplace on
> the internet where I could know how to get started. AFAIK, the
> sendmail would issue a STARTTLS during EHLO. are there any
> cons/pitfalls in setting this up?

No issues with sendmail relaying (or any other SMTP-related activity) 
using TLS.  For tips, HOWTOs and tricks try this on Google-ji:

  sendmail starttls howto

Let us know if you face problems, since using TLS with sendmail is not 
tough yet still not trivial.

Regards,

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[ilugd] IPv6 internet (through tunnel) available in Sarai Lab

[Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल]

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Hi all,

Today, I've connected Sarai[0] Lab to IPv6 internet through the IPv6
tunnel (6in4[1]) provided by HE[2]. The setup was very easy, and I'm
done in less than 20 minutes. And, we (me and Shantanu
Choudhary, the *co-operating* fellow at Sarai Lab) connected to
Freenode IRC[3], Google IPv6[4] etc. The RTT is at least 230ms, since
the tunnel server is located in Frankfurt, Germany.

But after few minutes, we noticed it is not working. On investigation,
we figured out that internet connection is not working :-D. I mentioned
this to Shantanu who told me Internet Connections are not stable in
Sarai, as in you can't rely on them, non-deterministic.

So, while leaving the lab, I've to disable the tunnel :(.

I'm wondering if NIXI or anyone else has any comments/suggestions/flames
on this.

Thanks to Shantanu, and Gora for their co-operation :).

References:
[0] - http://www.sarai.net/
[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6in4
[2] - http://www.tunnelbroker.net/
[3] - irc://ipv6.chat.freenode.net/
[4] - http://ipv6.google.com/

Ashish
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

[Linux Lingam]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/16 Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> , or another distro made for multimedia.
>
> http://www.artistx.org/ might be worth a try

that's a live dvd-distro, but it still peddles rosegarden...


>
> Cheers
> Praveen


niyam

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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Anand Kapoor]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Arun Khan writes:
>> On Wednesday 17 Sep 2008, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
>>> Anand Kapoor writes:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
>>> > like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
>>> > traffic.
>>>
>>> I'm no sendmail expert, but if you want to do TLS while relaying
>>> outbound mails, then I don't think this is permissible with current
>>> standards of SMTP, where MX is expected to communicate in an
>>> unencrypted channel.
>>>
>
>> Does not STARTTLS do it?
>
> I think STARTTLS is only meant to be used between MUA and MTA, not
> between MTA and MX.
>
> Ashish
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Sorry I forgot to mention, the Sendmail box only takes care of the
egress of emails. Would it still be a problem? So essentials mails
flow from Exhchange to a Content Filter/Av appliance and then to the
SMTP g/w and then out to the internet.

Thanks,

Anand
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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल]

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Arun Khan writes:
> On Wednesday 17 Sep 2008, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
>> Anand Kapoor writes:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
>> > like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
>> > traffic.
>> 
>> I'm no sendmail expert, but if you want to do TLS while relaying
>> outbound mails, then I don't think this is permissible with current
>> standards of SMTP, where MX is expected to communicate in an
>> unencrypted channel.
>> 

> Does not STARTTLS do it?

I think STARTTLS is only meant to be used between MUA and MTA, not
between MTA and MX.

Ashish
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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Arun Khan]

On Wednesday 17 Sep 2008, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
> Anand Kapoor writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
> > like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
> > traffic.
>
> I'm no sendmail expert, but if you want to do TLS while relaying
> outbound mails, then I don't think this is permissible with current
> standards of SMTP, where MX is expected to communicate in an
> unencrypted channel.
>

Does not STARTTLS do it?

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Re: [ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल]

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Anand Kapoor writes:
> Hello,

> I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
> like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
> traffic.

I'm no sendmail expert, but if you want to do TLS while relaying
outbound mails, then I don't think this is permissible with current
standards of SMTP, where MX is expected to communicate in an unencrypted
channel.

Ashish
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल]

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Amit Karpe writes:

> I am downloading revolution os .
> Can you suggest any other video ?

The Code[1].

[1] -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Code_(film)

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[ilugd] Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security

[Anand Kapoor]

Hello,

I have an MS Exchange 2003 & Sendmail 8.13.x environment and would
like to use TLS at the SMTP perimeter to encyrpt outbound email
traffic.  Does anybody have any pointers or location to someplace on
the internet where I could know how to get started. AFAIK, the
sendmail would issue a STARTTLS during EHLO. are there any
cons/pitfalls in setting this up?

Any and all help appreciated.

Thanks,

Anand

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Re: [ilugd] Need some good debian repos

[narendra sisodiya]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Sahil Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Sahil Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > hi..
> > >
> > > i need some good and working debian repos. so, can someone post his/her
> > > sources.list over here?
> >
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
>
>
> >> why have you put redundant lines over here?
>

it a normal result of copy paste from multiple source. well repetition is
not needed,
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Re: [ilugd] Need some good debian repos

[Sahil Dave]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Sahil Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > hi..
> >
> > i need some good and working debian repos. so, can someone post his/her
> > sources.list over here?
>
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main


>> why have you put redundant lines over here?

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Amit Karpe]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello ,
>
>>   I want FOSS Documentary videos.
>> Which shows success stories or history or herros of FOSS / Linux/ Open
>> Source.
>>
>> Can you suggest me any url to download ?
>> Or
>> If any one had it, please share with me.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Amit.
>>
>
>
> I have a copy of OS Revolutions. A documentary film which feature Richard
> Stallman , Michael
> Tiemann,
> Linus Torvalds , Larry
> Augustin,
> Eric S. Raymond , Bruce
> Perens,
> Frank 
> Heckerand
> Brian
> Behlendorf .  If you wish I
> can send you a copy of the CD/DVD. I don't know if the director would be
> comfortable with this kind of distribution.
>
> Or you can buy a copy from: http://www.revolution-os.com/about.html

Thanks a lot.

I am downloading revolution os .
Can you suggest any other video ?


>
> Please let me know.
>
> Regards
> Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| please send me the copy of the "OS Revolutions" .
\--

It is not a freely distributable movie. You are to buy an original
copy from revolution-os.com or contact:
http://www.revolution-os.com/contact.html

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[gajendra khanna]

Hi mohit/amit
The said video (revolution OS) is available on google video here:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409

If you have a good net connection you could download it using a
downloader like clive (without troubling swapnil)
Regards
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> please send me the copy of the "OS Revolutions" .
>>
> By the way I apologize, the name of the movie is Revolution OS :-)

Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

>
> please send me the copy of the "OS Revolutions" .
> My mailing address  -
>
> C/o Sh. Ashok Kumar Yadav,
> B-18/E, Todarmal Marg, Bani park
> Jaipur [rajasthan]  - 302006
>
> Contact no - 9910221203
>
>
> Thanks. You may get your copy by next week :-)

Swapnil


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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Mohit Yadav]

> Hi swapnil !!



please send me the copy of the "OS Revolutions" .

My mailing address  -

C/o Sh. Ashok Kumar Yadav,
B-18/E, Todarmal Marg, Bani park
Jaipur [rajasthan]  - 302006

Contact no - 9910221203
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

Hello ,

>   I want FOSS Documentary videos.
> Which shows success stories or history or herros of FOSS / Linux/ Open
> Source.
>
> Can you suggest me any url to download ?
> Or
> If any one had it, please share with me.
>
> --
> Regards
> Amit.
>


I have a copy of OS Revolutions. A documentary film which feature Richard
Stallman , Michael
Tiemann,
Linus Torvalds , Larry
Augustin,
Eric S. Raymond , Bruce
Perens,
Frank 
Heckerand
Brian
Behlendorf .  If you wish I
can send you a copy of the CD/DVD. I don't know if the director would be
comfortable with this kind of distribution.

Or you can buy a copy from: http://www.revolution-os.com/about.html

Please let me know.

Regards
Swapnil
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[ilugd] FOSS Documentary

[Amit Karpe]

Hello ,
   I want FOSS Documentary videos.
Which shows success stories or history or herros of FOSS / Linux/ Open Source.

Can you suggest me any url to download ?
Or
If any one had it, please share with me.

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Re: [ilugd] Need some good debian repos

[Swapnil Bhartiya]

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Sahil Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi..
>
> i need some good and working debian repos. so, can someone post his/her
> sources.list over here?


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20070407-11:40]/ etch contrib main

# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

# deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib


This is mine for etch, I dont know if it would work for you.

Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] Realtime Virtual Classroom

[narendra sisodiya]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Arun Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is *private* message in response to your posting on ILUG-Delhi
> mailing list.  Please treat it as such.
>
> On Wednesday 17 Sep 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> > Thanks  a lot. You gave me a useful link !! From the past six month I
> > am earning/evaluating/developing e-learning platform.
> > But initial it give the wrong impression,, It is very similar to
> > slideshare.net so what is extra features??
> > second it use flash. we must not use flash/screen in education
> > content. Education has a deep philosophy for values with it. Any
> > ecosystem of education system without those values it waste of effort
> > and is a crap. Yes this provide some educational values like
> > "sharing", but i am not sure how much effective it will be !!
>
> Agree with the above philosophy but what is the alternative?  At the end
> of the day end users will go to what appeals to their eyes.  They don't
> care if it is Flash or OO slide presentation.
>
If you go to the my presentations, If have mentioned my definition of
"educational content".

We have to look from two aspects
* participation
* interactivity of content
See Wikipedia is best because is has high degree of participation but
interactivity is not much needed for participation,
If you increase the interactivity of content using video recording or flash
presentation the participation will be less. Like Google tech video,,,
Increasing the contents interactivity will reduce the target audience also..
as it need more bandwidth..lie video takes time of download..
the most biggest disadvantage is search engine cannot seach a text inside
the video or flash files.
So Inorder to make a big e-learning platform (which i am working and calling
it eduvid) we need to have a great participation and My system is best
suitable for educational content.
Always remember ,., at the end of the day "simplicity matter". Let wait for
some more time for Eduvid to complete.


>
> > Well there is a Indian effort also, you can read a similar stuff at -
> > (still incomplete)
> > http://www.slideshare.net/narendra.sisodiya/project-eduvid-presentati
> >on
>
> Wrap the URLs with a prefix < and suffix >  e.g. 
> Most MUA will pick up the URL string even if it spans multiple lines.
>
> > PS: Do anybody know how to get developers/funding  to work on "mukt"
> > educational project.
>
> You can approach NRC-FOSS for funding.  Suggest you contact the Director
> Dr. C. N. Krishnan directly.  They basically operate under Govt. of
> India/DIT funding and release of monies takes it's own due course :)
>

Thanks , I will contact him,


>
> HTH,
> -- Arun Khan
>
>


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