Re: [ilugd] (Fw) FOSS.IN agenda for this year

2008-10-03 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 much recognition we get from gora's.

  Recognition from Gora Mohanty is a cool thing, imho. No idea
what grudge you have against him. You even wanted to add Gulabjaamun
syrup in his beer can, iirc. ;) .

  Cheers!

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Re: [ilugd] (Fw) FOSS.IN agenda for this year

2008-10-03 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:09:54 +0530
Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 So fsck you India, FOSS.in is not concerned about anything except how 
 much recognition we get from gora's.
[...]

I wish to go on record that no one is getting any recognition
from me, unless there is mucho moolah involved.

Regards,
Gora

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[ilugd] G.I.S.S. multimedia workshop at Sarai, Sat., 11 Oct., 11am onwards

2008-10-03 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hello all,
  So, the multimedia workshop is finally confirmed. Please
see the outline on the Wiki page at
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GISSMultimediaWorkshop. 
Directions to Sarai, CSDS, are also
available there.

  This will be more in the nature of an informal discussion,
rather than a formal workshop, though people are invited to
give presentations on any FOSS multimedia tools that they have
a familiarity. If interested in doing this, please drop me a
note, or edit the Wiki directly.

Regards,
Gora

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[ilugd] [Commercial] Software Support Engineer - Level 3 opening at Red Hat, Pune

2008-10-03 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
The role expects the Engineer to resolve complex customer problems on
Red Hat Enterprise Linux and related Red Hat products.

The Engineer is expected to work closely with the Development
Engineering Team and the Support Organizations. In this role, the
Engineer will analyze upstream development against current reported
defects and develop patches to resolve the issues.

The role expects the Software Support Engineer to

* Develop and recommend corrective workarounds.
* Use skills as a seasoned, experienced professional with a full
understanding of industry practices and company policies and procedures;
resolves a wide range of issues in imaginative as well as practical ways.
* Demonstrate considerable judgment in selecting methods and techniques
for obtaining solutions.
* Interacts with senior internal and upstream communities
* Participate in customer facing activities like customer calls and/or
customer visits to present the technical details of a technical support
issue
* Works independently on tasks with minimal guidance on complex issues.

Job Requirements :

* 5 or more years related experience, BS or MS in engineering field
* Excellent understanding of Linux kernel, virtual memory, networking
and NFS concepts and protocols.
* Upstream Linux Kernel engagement (patches submitted for upstream
inclusion) preferred
* Familiar with other operating systems including Linux, Solaris, AIX,
Tru64 and Microsoft Windows Server desirable
* Good understanding of hardware and computer architecture
* Senior development level experience with C, be comfortable to write
kernel patches
* Good communication skills in English


CVs to be sent to careers-in at redhat dot com


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Re: [ilugd] G.I.S.S. multimedia workshop at Sarai, Sat., 11 Oct., 11am onwards

2008-10-03 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
I will be attending the workshop.

Swapnil


On 10/3/08, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
   So, the multimedia workshop is finally confirmed. Please
 see the outline on the Wiki page at
 http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GISSMultimediaWorkshop.
 Directions to Sarai, CSDS, are also
 available there.

   This will be more in the nature of an informal discussion,
 rather than a formal workshop, though people are invited to
 give presentations on any FOSS multimedia tools that they have
 a familiarity. If interested in doing this, please drop me a
 note, or edit the Wiki directly.

 Regards,
 Gora

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Re: [ilugd] G.I.S.S. multimedia workshop at Sarai, Sat., 11 Oct., 11am onwards

2008-10-03 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya

 On 10/3/08, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
So, the multimedia workshop is finally confirmed. Please
  see the outline on the Wiki page at
  http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GISSMultimedia
 Workshop. Directions to Sarai, CSDS, are also
  available there.
 
This will be more in the nature of an informal discussion,
  rather than a formal workshop, though people are invited to
  give presentations on any FOSS multimedia tools that they have
  a familiarity. If interested in doing this, please drop me a
  note, or edit the Wiki directly.
 

Especially since the topic of this workshop is multimedia and there will 
probably be quite some equipment around, can someone take videos of the 
talks?

On a general basis, can ILUGD establish some sort of process to capture 
talks in all its events? I think equipment, bandwidth, etc. are much 
cheaper now than earlier. We can use any of the available video sharing 
services to offer CC based content for the benefit of others. What do 
you think? Is it too much to volunteer/organize?

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India print Magzine India

2008-10-03 Thread M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
Dear Praveen,

Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
one Mega software collection under one umbrella using anaconda or Yum
which is also GPL and make non-free commercial software=RHEL .  Still
simple club all GPL = non free commercial .Please educate me .Is it for this 
day Foss was born .Community make GPL Software and commercial entities take 
benefit with simple trick .This
debate shall continue until, we have clear idea how to defeat GPL
violators.

M.S.Yatnatti        



KPN UNLIMITED Corporate Office:No.18/6, Executive chambers, Cunningham Road, 
Bangalore – 560052. WEBSITE WWW.KPNUNLIMITED.ORG

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux 
For You India print Magzine India
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 9:56 AM

2008/9/30 Sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It is really unfortunate to know that people of CEO level are not able
 to understand the Trade Marks and Licenses.

I believe what you meant was Trademarks and Copyrights. You can have
Copyright License (GPL is one such) and Trademark License (what RHEL
has).

Copyrights are used to protect software and a copyright license is
considered Free (as in Freedom) if it allows everyone who receive a
copy of the program to use, study, change and distribute (modified or
unmodified) copies of that program. All the components of RHEL is Free
Software.

But the collection distributed by Red Hat in CDs or DVDs also have a
license. You can think of it as a collection of poems in the public
domain. Even though individual poems remain in the public domain the
collector has a copyright over the collection.

Now trademarks are something different. It is used to protect brands.
It ensures that you get what you think you are getting.

RHEL name and logos are trademarked by Red Hat. That means if you see
RHEL with Red Hat logos you can be sure it is from Red Hat. In the
same way Mozilla Corporation own trademarks to Firefox. You need a
license from the owner of the trademark (in the same way as copyright)
to use that brand. CentOS removed the name and logos from RHEL and is
distributing the same collection. In the same way Debian changed
Firefox name to Iceweasel.

Trademarks does not restricts the Freedoms mentioned in the Free
Software definition.


Btw please avoid using the term ipr.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html

It implies either you are confused or you want to confuse everyone.

Cheers
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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India print Magzine India

2008-10-03 Thread Mehul Ved
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Praveen,

Dear Sir,

 Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
 FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
 one Mega software collection under one umbrella using anaconda or Yum
 which is also GPL and make non-free commercial software=RHEL .  Still
 simple club all GPL = non free commercial .Please educate me .Is it for this 
 day Foss was born .Community make GPL Software and commercial entities take 
 benefit with simple trick .This
 debate shall continue until, we have clear idea how to defeat GPL
 violators.

Please tell me, where does CentOS come from?

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Re: [ilugd] Cross compile for 32 bit, missing libdbus-glib-1.so

2008-10-03 Thread shantanu goel
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM, shantanu goel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 I'm cross-compiling an application to 32 bit arch. My app uses
 dbus-glib bindings. My base system is Ubuntu Hardy 64, so I use the
 -m32 flag with gcc to compile but it gives me an error of missing
 libdbus-glib-1.so. All other libs are present as I've already
 installed gcc-multilib, ia32libs etc packages and am also able to
 cross compile other applications that don't depend on this particular
 library. Any suggestions which package to install to get this 32 bit
 lib onto my system?


Got the solution to it on ubuntuforums, thought of posting it here as
well if someone finds it useful. getlibs did it for me. It
automatically downloaded and installed the required i386 package. (On
second thoughts I could have done the same by downloading that package
manually and opening it up and hand copying the required .so to
/usr/lib32 as default install directly would have overwritten the 64
bit version in /usr/lib, but getlibs does it automatically saving a
bit of time plus it can do this for all the needed libraries for a
particular executable, probably by discovering using ldd)

Linky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
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Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India print Magzine India

2008-10-03 Thread shantanu goel
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM, M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Praveen,

 Thank you for participating in the debate.Are you educating the open
 FOSS community that any body can club all individual GPL software into
 one Mega software collection under one umbrella using anaconda or Yum
 which is also GPL and make non-free commercial software=RHEL .  Still
 simple club all GPL = non free commercial .Please educate me .Is it for this 
 day Foss was born .Community make GPL Software and commercial entities take 
 benefit with simple trick .This
 debate shall continue until, we have clear idea how to defeat GPL
 violators.

 M.S.Yatnatti

MSY,
Well, only thing RH stops you from doing is that if you copy and
distribute RHEL then your copied CDs/DVDs should not bear RHEL name or
logo, which is understandable IMHO.
And I think in that interview which you are pointing out, the RHEL
spokesperson had clearly said the exact same thing that you can freely
copy and redistribute but just need to remove the RHEL name and logo.
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Re: [ilugd] Cross compile for 32 bit, missing libdbus-glib-1.so

2008-10-03 Thread Nalin Savara
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:38 AM, shantanu goel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM, shantanu goel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi
 
  I'm cross-compiling an application to 32 bit arch. My app uses
  dbus-glib bindings. My base system is Ubuntu Hardy 64, so I use the
 snip
 Got the solution to it on ubuntuforums, thought of posting it here as
 well if someone finds it useful. getlibs did it for me. It


Hi Buddy Shantz,

Thanks a ton for taking the effort of posting this snippet here.
I was tempted to dig around for a solution when you originally asked the
question-- but you've saved us all that effort.

Thanks and Regards,

NS
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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-10-03 Thread Vikas Rawal
 Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :)
 
[snipped]
 
 -- Raju

I actually took Raju's bait and installed debian testing on the
laptop. And this mail is to thank him and record the preliminary
results of the shift.

1. Debian (testing/lenny) installed without any issue.

2. As Raj had pointed out, the ethernet card worked once the latest
kernel was used.

3. Wireless card worked with ndiswrapper. I had only the first dvd of
the lenny distribution. Thoughtfully, ndiswrapper was provided on it
so I did not have to connect to the internet to install it.

4. Interestingly, the internal mic did not work with ubuntu despite
all sorts of tweaking. The webcam worked after some work. Quite a few
people have written on the internet about problems with getting ubuntu
to use internal mic on Del vostro laptops. These did not work with
even the latest (2.6.27) kernel on ubuntu. With debian lenny (2.6.26
kernel), internal mic and the webcam worked straight out of box!!

5. I have both ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny installed on the
system. They share /home, and therefore, much of the gnome
configuration files. With the same configuration, Debian's default
appearance seems ugly in comparison with ubuntu. In particular, the
fonts are too large and made the desktop and some applications look
ugly. Both ubuntu and debian have the same screen resolution
(1280x800) and it does not look like either has a problem with my
graphics card (intel). My present solution is to shift to a smaller
size, but that does not solve all the problems. For example, emacs
still has HUGE fonts.

6. Running compiz on debian required some tweaking of xorg.conf.

To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine
than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian
installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than
ubuntu did.

Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] RMS Says Cloud Computing Is Trap

2008-10-03 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Sandip Bhattacharya spoke thus  On 10/02/2008 12:14 AM:

 
 Well, I have been waiting to see the FOSS response to this for a while 
 now. It is an interesting problem to solve. Of course, just calling it 
 a trap doesn't suffice. You have to provide an alternative.

Check the essay Rick Moen  .   .   .  INOLJ-OOW2.0C (Is Not On 
LiveJournal Or Other Web 2.0 Cults) 
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/winolj.html by Rick Moen.  The guy 
suggests a number of alternatives to cloud computing websites.


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