Re: [ilugd] [Very-old-topic] Distro having best compatibility with MS related products

2009-01-16 Thread Amit Sharma
snipped

 So, below are some of the things that are done in the office in a regular
 office.

 ~Connect to Windows Terminal Server for remote operations
tsclient works well for Microsoft RDP.

 ~Mail Exchanging (Mail server is MS Exchange) and all other clients are
 Outlook
evolution with evolution-exchange

 ~Intranet website has issues with Firefox(Well, honestly doesn't work
on
 anything other then IE)
hmm, you are out of luck here.

 ~Extensive work in Office Suite, full compatibility with MS Office is a
high
 priority.
openoffice works good, if not fully compatible. If you are looking for
commercial support see
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/ooo.html


 And some more which I may not be able to recall right now. So, could you
 please recommend the best distro which is best for peaceful co-existence
in
 a M$ dominated environment.

 Just finished migrating about 150 desktop from M$ to openSUSE. Users simply 
loved it and feels comfortable. Few powerusers of MS-Office are not comfortable 
with openoffice but rest have no issues at all. In my opinion openSUSE should 
be given a try. openSUSE 11.0 with KDE 3.5 is recommended.My recommendation is 
based on practical testing of Fedora 10, Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 and openSUSE 11.0 
and 11.1 for a average office user.-- amit


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Re: [ilugd] [Very-old-topic] Distro having best compatibility with MS related products

2009-01-16 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 16 Jan 2009, Smruti wrote:
 [snip]
 So, below are some of the things that are done in the office in a
 regular office.

 ~Connect to Windows Terminal Server for remote operations
 ~Mail Exchanging (Mail server is MS Exchange) and all other clients
 are Outlook
 ~Intranet website has issues with Firefox(Well, honestly doesn't work
 on anything other then IE)

My strong recommendation would be to not switch to Linux.

 ~Extensive work in Office Suite, full compatibility with MS Office is
 a high priority.

Again, you're out of luck here.  Fonts get mangled, layouts change and 
with the new docx format, tables vanish.

 And some more which I may not be able to recall right now. So, could
 you please recommend the best distro which is best for peaceful
 co-existence in a M$ dominated environment.

If you move your manager to Linux, and she doesn't like it or can't use 
it fully, then you've not converted one user, you've alienated a whole 
office.  Most of the people I've seen who get pushed into Linux and 
then get frustrated with it end up becoming Linux haters, mostly vocal 
and fanatical Linux haters.  Since it's quite clear from your mail that 
full compatibility is required, and cannot be achieved, I'd recommend 
waiting for a while until you do have powerful enough tools on Linux to 
let your manager handle her day-to-day work and then converting her.

As for distributions, with KDE and Gnome there's very little to choose 
between them.  I personally prefer Debian on both desktops (with KDE) 
and servers because of its stability, but the choice is open.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] [Very-old-topic] Distro having best compati bility with MS related products

2009-01-16 Thread PJ
Smruti smrutiman...@... writes:

 
 Finally I managed to convince one of my managers to try Linux. She will
 probably start with a dual-boot setup. Now comes the time for the old
 questions. Which Distro to recommend. But this time the biggest criteria is
 compatibility.
 [snip requirements list]

Good thing you gave a fairly thorough idea about what was
needed. It looks like the lock-in is pretty strong with
your outfit.

yodaStrong, the dark side of the source with you is./yoda

I would suggest you don't try it - it really sounds like the
expectations of backwards compatibility are too high.

I would suggest that you bring in linux for new stuff which
doesn't have this backward compatiblity requirement.

PJ



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Re: [ilugd] dimdim anyone?

2009-01-16 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
Pretty good is what I would comment. A good and tough open source competitor
to Webex I must say.

I have tried doing conference with DIM DIM with quite a few of my friends
and everybody is impressed (including ardent fans of Webex).Though webex
boasts of its superior network and service uptime i never found problem with
DIM DIM network. The maximum number of participants being 20 in a web
conference for the community edition. But experience on similar products
tells me that 6 or 8 people in a web conference are more than enough else it
becomes more like a crowd.

I have plans to integrate DIM DIM with asterisk and jabber and create some
more magic. If anyone has attempted anything similar please share your
experiences. I also wonder how many enterprises are using DIM DIM coz many
are already using Jabber for instant messaging.

Niyam I went through your blog post on improving spoken and written english.
Thank you for the same.I am trying to follow some of the suggestions however
i may take time to achieve perfection.

Regards
Dhiraj Gaur

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote:

 dimdim is a sophisticated web-conferencing solution, under gpl, but
 also under various other licenses:
 http://www.dimdim.com/opensource/dimdim_gpl.html

 looks like it's geared to take on webex, adobe, and everybody else in
 the web-conf arena.

 what's your experience with dimdim?

 the 'about us' page reveals a whole bunch of indian-origin people:
 http://www.dimdim.com/aboutus/dimdim_managementteam.html

 i remember andrew mentioning dimdim several months ago.

 --
 niyam bhushan

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[ilugd] Samba, AD and Windows clients

2009-01-16 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi,

Is it possible to completely replace the active directory and primary 
and secondary domain controllers in a Winduhs network with one or more 
Linux boxes?

Excuse my vast ignorance of Winduhs, but do you need both a PDC and AD, 
or are they mutually exclusive?  How about encryption and stuff?  And 
integration with OpenLDAP?

Pointers, references welcome.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] dimdim anyone?

2009-01-16 Thread linuxlingam
Thanks Dhiraj, on sharing your experiences with dimdim. The tip on
managing better with around six people is good. I think will try it
soon for outstation foss-conferences and events to which i can't
travel. The ability to share my desktop and to whiteboard, makes
software hands-on seminars and demoes feasible.

regards
n

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Re: [ilugd] Samba, AD and Windows clients

2009-01-16 Thread Vivek Varghese Cherian
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Is it possible to completely replace the active directory and primary
 and secondary domain controllers in a Winduhs network with one or more
 Linux boxes?

 Excuse my vast ignorance of Winduhs, but do you need both a PDC and AD,
 or are they mutually exclusive?  How about encryption and stuff?  And
 integration with OpenLDAP?

 Pointers, references welcome.

 Regards,

 -- Raju



Siju George (Hifx IT and Media Services Private Limited, Cochin,
http://www.hifx.net) has implemented Samba based PDCs. Their network
consists of Microsoft Windows, GNU/linux and BSD boxes. Hifx also
sells Samba based Domain controller solutions.

 Siju would be the best person to guide you on this. I can pass you
his contact email address and phone number off list.

As far as I know once you configure Samba as a PDC, you don't need any
AD server.  I am not sure on the encryption part. Integration with
OpenLDAP is certainly possible.

Regards,
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