[ilugd] orkut - Gaurav Mishra -- has sent you a friend request

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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-18 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Sunday 15 March 2009 09:35:54 Raj Mathur wrote:

 Great work, everyone who contributed and specially Venky for taking
 the initiative.  Everything else being equal, a clearly-articulated
 FOSS policy would definitely sway my vote towards the BJP.

Nothing specific against BJP, but do you really think that a policy 
intention has in the past ever worked against market forces in a 
government/economics setup which is market-driven?

Our past friends CPIM talked about FOSS on one hand and proudly 
announced strategic partnership with M$ for state education on the other 
hand.

We cannot rejoice/rely on support by political parties for pushing for 
FOSS.

I however do acknowledge that the Indian contingent in the recent ISO 
OpenXML saga did a very commendable job against very heavy odds. Of 
course the people involved weren't government officials, but at least it 
had the blessing in some way of the Indian government.

- Sandip


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Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution

2009-03-18 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday 16 March 2009 09:29:01 Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
 most of the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was
 detected only in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express
 email software was discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail.

I am more puzzled by this bit than anything else.

How much of the problem does replacing Outlook Express by Squirrelmail 
solve? 

- Is the IMAP server behind Squirrelmail an open source one? Or is it 
Exchange? 

- Is the machine on which Squirrelmail is accessed Windows or not? 

- Would downloading/executing attachments, which is the most likely 
cause of the virus attack, cause a similar attack on the host computer 
or not?

--
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Re: [ilugd] orkut - Gaurav Mishra -- has sent you a friend request

2009-03-18 Thread Gaurav Mishra
Ack, What's this ?, Someone used ilugd mailing list email id as the
orkut email registered id !

Apologies for this guys, It was supposed to be a friend finder script
for orkut !, Testing went wrong.

Thanks and Regards
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http://gmishra.com
When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can
crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward



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Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution

2009-03-18 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the
article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client. In
my views this is what might have happened

1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to switch
to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in the
RTI query.
2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to some
linux based solution.
3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or any
other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access
tool.
4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used, but
the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing
Squirrel Mail.

People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these dobuts.
But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway
connected to open source.

Regards
Dhiraj Gaur


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya li...@sandipb.netwrote:

 On Monday 16 March 2009 09:29:01 Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
  most of the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was
  detected only in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express
  email software was discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail.

 I am more puzzled by this bit than anything else.

 How much of the problem does replacing Outlook Express by Squirrelmail
 solve?

 - Is the IMAP server behind Squirrelmail an open source one? Or is it
 Exchange?

 - Is the machine on which Squirrelmail is accessed Windows or not?

 - Would downloading/executing attachments, which is the most likely
 cause of the virus attack, cause a similar attack on the host computer
 or not?

 --
  Sandip


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[ilugd] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread Arun SAG
Many people has admired on L.K Advani's IT vision.

It seems like Gujarat is making an U-Turn
.http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/project-on-it-upgradation-in-schools-makes-no-headway-in-gujarat/434979/
Conflicts of opinion between education department and IT department.

LOL MOU with Microsoft to aid teachers in teaching FOSS. (this shows
politicians dont know a heck about foss, or M$ might have bribed them (if u
sign MOU with software gaint you get publicity for sure ) )

ZD-net covers it extensively http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3718

Find out who are the enimies to BJP if they promote
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/MS-top-telcos-may-be-hit/articleshow/4266133.cms

Seems like microsoft is on FIRE
BizSparkhttp://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/incubator/archive/2008/12/17/microsoft-india-launches-bizspark-for-startups.aspx
,DreamSpark http://www.dreamsparkindia.com And Lot of Sparks to burn
competition !! :(

Just FYI

Regards
Arun SAG
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windows.
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Re: [ilugd] Personal invitation from pratipal singh

2009-03-18 Thread Tanveer Singh
2009/3/18 pratipal singh pratipalthesar...@gmail.com:
 Personal invitation from pratipal singh
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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 01:44:20 Arun SAG wrote:

 Seems like microsoft is on FIRE
 BizSparkhttp://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/incubator/archive/2008/12/17
/microsoft-india-launches-bizspark-for-startups.aspx ,DreamSpark

I saw a pitch for Bizmark in a blog meet sponsored my Microsoft 
recently. In all the gushing about the help they are providing to 
startups, they neglect talking too much about the strings attached.

The article you quote however mentions some:

 For signing up for the program, a start up needs to be engaged in the
 development of software-based product or service, that is core to
 their business model. It needs to be privately held, with lees than
 three years in business. Also, the firm should have less than $1
 million in annual revenue. Microsoft Corp (India) will take $100 from
 the startup when it (the startup) exits the program after three
 years.

In short, it is prisonerware.

- Sandip


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[ilugd] IBM 847872X with Centos

2009-03-18 Thread masatheesh
Hi,

   Did anyone install Centos 5.0 in IBM 847872X server? Before start it,I
expect your valuable suggestions.It will be act as a apache tomcat
application server for our internal users.Do I need to add any more details
to explain?

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-18 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya li...@sandipb.net wrote:
 On Sunday 15 March 2009 09:35:54 Raj Mathur wrote:

 Great work, everyone who contributed and specially Venky for taking
 the initiative.  Everything else being equal, a clearly-articulated
 FOSS policy would definitely sway my vote towards the BJP.

 Nothing specific against BJP, but do you really think that a policy
 intention has in the past ever worked against market forces in a
 government/economics setup which is market-driven?


As one of the many people from the FOSS community who worked on
localization and other issues that help bridge the digital divide, I
am happy that political parties are looking at FOSS more seriously
now. We need this support because proprietary software is so deeply
entrenched. For example, we have been trying to make the syllabus
remove the endorsement of proprietary software for so many years. I
guess most of us in the FOSS community believe that FOSS and open/free
content like Wikipedia can be powerful forces for development. The
fact that the top leaders of BJP and CPIM have acknowledged this in
their political manifesto/vision is a powerful coming of age for FOSS
in India, This is a very important milestone for all of us. We must
congratulate ourselves, but also realize that the real work of taking
FOSS to the grassroots level begins now.

 Our past friends CPIM talked about FOSS on one hand and proudly
 announced strategic partnership with M$ for state education on the other
 hand.


The CPIM's stand on software patents, open standards and FOSS is
driven by an anti-monopoly approach and also a respect for the growing
paradigm of the knowledge commons which benefits everybody. I may
have missed the news but I cannot recall reading any, strategic
partnership with M$ for state education. Would be interested in
knowing more.

 We cannot rejoice/rely on support by political parties for pushing for
 FOSS.


We should rejoice that they are publicly supporting FOSS. A few years
ago, many of the policy makers I met would privately criticize
proprietary software vendors and pay lip sympathy to open source.
However, in the presence of the proprietary software vendor, they
would turn into meek lambs. Some policy makers used to treat the
worlds open source like bad word. The fact that FOSS is now being
talked about in the highest political circles will definitely change
these mindsets and that is a powerful change in itself.

On the statement that, we should not rely on support by political
parties for pushing for
FOSS, I would heartily agree and add that we should build such a
vibrant FOSS community that no political party can ignore. We must now
focus on areas like FOSS open source in education, for the visually
handicapped etc where there are clear benefits to the country and
prove once and for all that FOSS is the best bet for India in the long
term.

 I however do acknowledge that the Indian contingent in the recent ISO
 OpenXML saga did a very commendable job against very heavy odds. Of
 course the people involved weren't government officials, but at least it
 had the blessing in some way of the Indian government.

There were six government organizations that voted against OOXML (I
don't think OpenXML is a good name for 6,000 pages of XML dump of a
legacy file format :-). All of them spent a lot of time reviewing one
of the most voluminous standards ever created. Also, way before the
OOXML saga, some key officials in the government have always said that
India will mandate open standards. The OOXML issue forced them to
finally come put with a clear policy on open standards and tame the
beast of proprietary standards. To give credit where it is due, some
of the bureaucrats within Department of IT and the Bureau of Indian
Standards did a tremendous job despite the immense pressure from all
sides, -- proprietary vendors, the media coverage of the issue, the
uncompromising stance taken by open standards supporters, the issue
being escalated to the Prime Minister's Office... See:

http://osindia.blogspot.com/2007/10/media-replies-on-ooxml-issue.html

Many of my friends have said that the OOXML saga was one of the most
brilliant lobbying efforts and also a great example of how the checks
and balances of a democratic country like India work. In our
neighboring countries, the negative vote against OOXML by technical
committees was overturned due to the pressure exerted on the
ministries that the standards bodies report to. Some of the committees
were plain rigged, as happened in Pakistan:

http://osindia.blogspot.com/2007/09/microsoft-certified-ballot-box.html

The heavy odds comment is spot on. When the whole issue started, Gora,
myself and others had attended a BIS meeting (see below) and we never
thought that we would be able to get India to vote against OOXML.

http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg16585.html

Miracles do happen!

Venky


[ilugd] CPI(M) manifesto calls for promotion of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS)

2009-03-18 Thread vinay ವಿನಯ್

Dear All,

The political support for Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) continues 
to increase.


The CPI(M) manifesto released on the 16th of March calls for the 
promotion of FOSS. The manifesto can be accessed at  
http://www.cpim.org/manifesto.pdf


Following are some of the highlights of the policy -
- Promoting FOSS and other such new technologies, which are free from 
monopoly ownership through copyrights or patents;
- Revamping the functioning of the Patent offices to ensure strict 
adherence to the Indian Patent Act; Stop training and orientation of 
Indian Patent office personnel by the US and European Patent offices


These above measures are critical to support the public education 
system, local economy and the knowledge commons and counter neo-liberal 
pressures that aim to privatize the public information/knowledge domain.


The CPI(M) has been a traditional supporter of free software, the 
comprehensive IT programs in Kerala, including in the public school 
system (http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6) is based on FOSS.  
With key parties from both the left and the right end of the political 
spectrum  endorsing FOSS, the Congress is left as the only major 
national party which is yet to formally take a position on FOSS. One 
hopes that the Congress too will soon extend its support for free 
software when it releases its own manifesto next week, and explicitly 
acknowledge the significant political, socio-cultural and economic 
advantages of FOSS over proprietary software platforms (see 
http://public-software.in/FOSS-manifesto for a call from the Network of 
the FOSS Community in India to the political parties, to recognise the 
advantages of FOSS in their election manifestos).


Thanks,
Vinay.

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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-18 Thread Mani A
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 200903181253.24166.li...@sandipb.net wrote:

 Nothing specific against BJP, but do you really think that a policy
 intention has in the past ever worked against market forces in a
 government/economics setup which is market-driven?

Not just that. Entire right-wing political politics is market driven
and their political parties are
made up of people 'essentially representing business houses'. M$ has
plenty of people in many of  these
parties and ...fraudulence of BJP's election promises is well known.

The recession has pauperised many and has been an excuse for trimming
down 'many excessively wealthy people '.
I think the 'lip-service for FOSS' is intended to play a buffer role
for the strategies for increasing rich-middle-class -poor divides.


 Our past friends CPIM talked about FOSS on one hand and proudly
 announced strategic partnership with M$ for state education on the other
 hand.

That is factually incorrect. No left-ruled state has a strategic
partnership with M$ for state education.
Or was the recent free h/w with M$ offer accepted?
The companies involved include some major IT companies excluding M$.
FOSS penetration is severe in Kerala with most departments and almost
all Left organisations have adopted FOSS.
FOSS penetration in education can be expected to be total within a few
years. In WB it is work in progress.
You should be also clear about differences between the IT policies of
the different Left ruled states.



Best

A. Mani


-- 
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Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution

2009-03-18 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dhiraj Gaur dhiraj.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the
 article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client. In
 my views this is what might have happened

 1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to switch
 to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in the
 RTI query.
 2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to some
 linux based solution.
 3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or any
 other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access
 tool.
 4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used, but
 the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing
 Squirrel Mail.

 People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these dobuts.
 But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway
 connected to open source.


Getting info from NIC or PMO office contacts is a good idea but may be
difficult one.
RTI application to get the answers could be a workable solution to get
the official answers.

-Sudhanwa

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[ilugd] IBM: I Believe in Mornings with the Sun

2009-03-18 Thread Linux Lingam
the web is suddenly ablaze with IBM's talks for acquiring Sun.
no one seems to be talking about the impact on openoffice.org, odf,
and sun's newer push into extending java further, especially with
stuff like javafx.

the good news everyone's missing: it's not microsoft in talks to buy sun. whew!
they're too busy waiting to pick up yahoo for a shammikapoor song in a meltdown?

regards
niyam
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Re: [ilugd] IBM: I Believe in Mornings with the Sun

2009-03-18 Thread Smruti
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.comwrote:

 the web is suddenly ablaze with IBM's talks for acquiring Sun.
 no one seems to be talking about the impact on openoffice.org, odf,
 and sun's newer push into extending java further, especially with
 stuff like javafx.


I think it's just Wall Street rumor...

-- 
Smruti
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Re: [ilugd] Personal invitation from pratipal singh

2009-03-18 Thread Smruti
2009/3/18 Tanveer Singh w...@tanveer.in

 2009/3/18 pratipal singh pratipalthesar...@gmail.com:
  Personal invitation from pratipal singh
  ___
 Sure we will all be there. Food is free, right?


And just to let you know I am a Non-Vegetarian...
-- 
Smruti
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Re: [ilugd] Personal invitation from pratipal singh

2009-03-18 Thread sarath babu.mg
Invitation for wat ?

Is it for 22nd meeting or else ?
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Re: [ilugd] CPI(M) manifesto calls for promotion of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS)

2009-03-18 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 18 Mar 2009, vinay ವಿನಯ್ wrote:
 The CPI(M) manifesto released on the 16th of March calls for the
 promotion of FOSS. The manifesto can be accessed at
 http://www.cpim.org/manifesto.pdf

 Following are some of the highlights of the policy -
 - Promoting FOSS and other such new technologies, which are free from
 monopoly ownership through copyrights or patents;
 - Revamping the functioning of the Patent offices to ensure strict
 adherence to the Indian Patent Act; Stop training and orientation of
 Indian Patent office personnel by the US and European Patent offices

I wish they'd also explicitly mentioned revamping the school IT 
syllabus.  OTOH, it's great we have at least one more party with a 
stated vision that encompasses FOSS -- now everything else being equal 
I'd toss a coin and vote for either BJP or CP/M ;)

Digression...

I don't recall the BJP stating a position on patents in agriculture and 
pharmaceuticals yet.  However, at the risk of being forever banned from 
this list, I believe that openness and transparency in those sectors is 
orders of magnitude more critical than some piddly little software 
patent and FOSS vs proprietary software debate that only affects a few 
of us elite types.

People dying because of lack of food, farmers unable to use the seeds of 
their crop for their next sowing, patients not receiving treatment 
since they cannot afford patent-encumbered medicines -- these are 
issues that make intellectual debates about software seem as relevant 
as a dispute in a kids games of marbles during all-out nuclear 
conflict.  From that point of view, thank you CP/M for at least 
mentioning patents in agriculture on page 16.

OldMonk's Thought of the Day: No one died because of proprietary 
software.

/digression

Regards,

-- Raju
-- 
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Re: [ilugd] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto

2009-03-18 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 18 Mar 2009, Mani A wrote:
 Not just that. Entire right-wing political politics is market driven
 and their political parties are
 made up of people 'essentially representing business houses'. M$ has
 plenty of people in many of  these
 parties and ...fraudulence of BJP's election promises is well known.

I vote we take this discussion of politics to some other forum, 
preferably the one locate at file:///dev/null.

Once again, this is /not/ a list for discussing politics except as far 
as it applies to Linux or FOSS.

Regards,

-- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution

2009-03-18 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
RTI surley seems to be a good bet. Well in that case why just PMO, lets
shoot and RTI query to major government establishments in our respective
regions, this would surely be an eye opener to the LUGs accross the country.
This way we ll have a decent idea about the actual adoption of open source
by the goverment enterprises and it would be an eye opener for most of the
goverment office.

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome.

Regards
Dhiraj Gaur


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dhiraj Gaur dhiraj.g...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the
  article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client.
 In
  my views this is what might have happened
 
  1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to
 switch
  to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in
 the
  RTI query.
  2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to
 some
  linux based solution.
  3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or
 any
  other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access
  tool.
  4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used,
 but
  the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing
  Squirrel Mail.
 
  People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these
 dobuts.
  But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway
  connected to open source.
 

 Getting info from NIC or PMO office contacts is a good idea but may be
 difficult one.
 RTI application to get the answers could be a workable solution to get
 the official answers.

 -Sudhanwa

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS GIS

2009-03-18 Thread sarath babu.mg
To

Gora sir

  I did my M.Sc. in Geography from Kerala University and GIS course from
Indian Institute of Information  Technology and Management, Kerala. Since
Feb 2008 iam working in the GIS Sphere with proprietary softwares like
ArcGIS and ArcView in various Research Organisations. Now I want migrate to
FOSSGIS. I need breif Introduction regarding basic operations and  Multiple
Analaysis (Like Network,3D). Can I know FOSSGIS activity in community.

Thanking in Advance

Sarath Babu.M.G
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Re: [ilugd] CPI(M) manifesto calls for promotion of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS)

2009-03-18 Thread sarath babu.mg
Hai friends,
 If we are speaking in the platform of free software
movement. *Inclusion of FOSS in the Election manifesto is Important. *
**
** To all of you dont use this platform for your political
ideology.* This is my sincere  appeal..!*
**
**
Sarath Babu
Junior Research Fellow,
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Re: [ilugd] IBM: I Believe in Mornings with the Sun

2009-03-18 Thread Arun Khan
On Thursday 19 Mar 2009, Linux Lingam wrote:
 the web is suddenly ablaze with IBM's talks for acquiring Sun.
 no one seems to be talking about the impact on openoffice.org, odf,

If the MA goes through, I think IBM will continue the support for 
whatever products Sun has open sourced.  Rescinding on the support will 
be much bad publicity, at least from the FOSS community.  IIRC, IBM was 
a strong supporter of ODF in the ODF v/s OOXML at the standards body.

Perhaps under one management, IBM's Symphony suite (based on OOo) will 
be current with the OOo versions.

 and sun's newer push into extending java further, especially with
 stuff like javafx.

Don't know much about javafx but my guess is that they will not change 
the set direction.

I am wondering about Sun's DB portfolio - MySQL; they will have DB2, 
Informix, and MySQL.

 the good news everyone's missing: it's not microsoft in talks to buy
 sun. whew! they're too busy waiting to pick up yahoo for a
 shammikapoor song in a meltdown?

Aamen :)

-- 
Arun Khan


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Re: [ilugd] IBM: I Believe in Mornings with the Sun

2009-03-18 Thread Arun Khan
On Thursday 19 Mar 2009, Smruti wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Linux Lingam 
linuxlin...@gmail.comwrote:
  the web is suddenly ablaze with IBM's talks for acquiring Sun.
  no one seems to be talking about the impact on openoffice.org, odf,
  and sun's newer push into extending java further, especially with
  stuff like javafx.

 I think it's just Wall Street rumor...

Sun's stock price is another indicator and they are struggling  ...

-- 
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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Fights back with FIRE

2009-03-18 Thread Sahil Dave
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya 
sand...@foss-community.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 18 March 2009 01:44:20 Arun SAG wrote:
 
  Seems like microsoft is on FIRE
  BizSparkhttp://blogs.livemint.com/blogs/incubator/archive/2008/12/17
 /microsoft-india-launches-bizspark-for-startups.aspx ,DreamSpark

 I saw a pitch for Bizmark in a blog meet sponsored my Microsoft
 recently. In all the gushing about the help they are providing to
 startups, they neglect talking too much about the strings attached.


 thats true, our college also got an offer from MS regarding dreamspark,
but didn't tell the students that the tools would be trial versions. LOL!


-- 
Sahil

MCA(SE)
USIT
GGSIPU, Kashmere Gate
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS GIS

2009-03-18 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:32:59 +0530
sarath babu.mg sarathbabu...@gmail.com wrote:

   I did my M.Sc. in Geography from Kerala University and GIS course from
 Indian Institute of Information  Technology and Management, Kerala. Since
 Feb 2008 iam working in the GIS Sphere with proprietary softwares like
 ArcGIS and ArcView in various Research Organisations.

Where are you based? If you are in Delhi, we can arrange to meet
up.

   Now I want migrate to
 FOSSGIS. I need breif Introduction regarding basic operations and  Multiple
 Analaysis (Like Network,3D). Can I know FOSSGIS activity in community.
[...]

As far as I know, the current interest in the community is
more focused on GPS, and projects like OpenStreetMap. However,
FOSS GIS is also of interest, and I believe that it has great
potential. My guess is that you are already ahead of me on the
score of using GRASS, but we can certainly discuss what work
can fruitfully be done together.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS GIS

2009-03-18 Thread sarath babu.mg
Thanks sir

When we can meet ?
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Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution

2009-03-18 Thread Sudev Barar
2009/3/19 Dhiraj Gaur dhiraj.g...@gmail.com:
 RTI surley seems to be a good bet. Well in that case why just PMO, lets
 shoot and RTI query to major government establishments in our respective
 regions, this would surely be an eye opener to the LUGs accross the country.
 This way we ll have a decent idea about the actual adoption of open source
 by the goverment enterprises and it would be an eye opener for most of the
 goverment office.

Can we have a format made online? Something like:

==
To
Principal Information officer
Ministry of XYZ
New Delhi.

Subject: Application under RTI Act for information on mailing solution
being used.

Dear Sir,
In view of recent news article (need cite here) about PMO loosing
vital information due to mailing software being beset with virus and
subsequent adoption of Open Source solution. I would like to request
the following information:
1. The software for emailing solution in use under your ministry is
proprietary or open source
2. No data/information has been lost in the ministry due to any virus
or similar malware attacks.
3. If there is loss of information then period for which records are lost.

Yours etc etc
=

Can other comment on this draft? All it takes is to attache a Rs10
postal order and send it away.

-- 
Regards,
Sudev Barar
Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there.

PS: I know most of people do not follow email niceties (mostly they
are not aware) but if you follow bottom post/in-line post style of
email conversations it becomes a whole lot easier to carry on
meaningful dialogue and you can snip out what is not meaningful too.
Most people just hit reply button and top post leaving prior message
appended uselessly at bottom. See if you can adopt this style and
persuade others. In case you are already doing this . great,
spread the message.

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