Re: [ilugd] Tally Alternatives - Gnucash , Homebank - India Localisation

[Nishant Prakash Kashyap]

Kalculate is the best. Made in India with complete feature of Commercial
Package available for reasonable cost.

Regards,
Nishant Kashyap

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM, vikram ranade wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:38 AM, vikram ranade  >wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:48 AM, vikram ranade  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I was looking at alternates to Tally and noticed that the currency
> setup
> >> in
> >> > GnuCash has INR as an option.
> >> > Does anyone know if the localization for India is complete in Gnucash
> or
> >> > HomeBank?
> >>
> >> There is also GNUKhata .
> >>
> >> -- Arun Khan
> >>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for this new  input!
> This is very interesting and looks promising.
> Best regards,
>  Vikram Ranade
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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Vivek Kapoor]

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:05:40 +0530, Anil Seth  wrote:
> On 23 July 2010 19:51, Vivek Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it create difficulty/corruption if two machines are trying to
>> download a package at the same time? I think the caching tools are
>> designed
>> to prevent that.
> 
> Yes, it can have issues. For small networks, it is more of an
> occasional/potential nuisance. For my personal home needs it was not
> an issue.

There's a minor inconvenience in this approach even if we ignore the
simultaneous downloading of files part. You would still have to update the
package information (apt-get update) from Ubuntu repositories on all the
machines as that data isn't in /var/cache/apt/archives :-) It's 6MB+ from
what I can recall (if I exclude the sources).

Regards
Vivek Kapoor
http://exain.com

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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Anil Seth]

On 23 July 2010 19:51, Vivek Kapoor  wrote:
> On 07/23/2010 07:23 PM, Anil Seth  wrote:
>>
>> I have used a simplistic approach by linking /var/cache/apt./archives
>> to a common NFS mounted directory. Only requirement is that no root
>> squash option is needed.
>>
>> It does not even matter which system is updated first as all
>> subsequent updates find the package in the common cache.
>
> Wouldn't it create difficulty/corruption if two machines are trying to
> download a package at the same time? I think the caching tools are designed
> to prevent that.
>
> Regards
> Vivek Kapoor
> http://exain.com
>

Yes, it can have issues. For small networks, it is more of an
occasional/potential nuisance. For my personal home needs it was not
an issue.

Anil

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Re: [ilugd] Tally Alternatives - Gnucash , Homebank - India Localisation

[vikram ranade]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:38 AM, vikram ranade wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:48 AM, vikram ranade 
>> wrote:
>> > I was looking at alternates to Tally and noticed that the currency setup
>> in
>> > GnuCash has INR as an option.
>> > Does anyone know if the localization for India is complete in Gnucash or
>> > HomeBank?
>>
>> There is also GNUKhata .
>>
>> -- Arun Khan
>>
>
>
> Thanks for this new  input!
This is very interesting and looks promising.
Best regards,
Vikram Ranade
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[ilugd] Tally Alternatives - Gnucash , Homebank - India Localisation

[vikram ranade]

I was looking at alternates to Tally and noticed that the currency setup in
GnuCash has INR as an option.
Does anyone know if the localization for India is complete in Gnucash or
HomeBank?
http://www.gnucash.org/

Some googling revealed that Kalculate may be a good fit as well.
Any experiences ,thoughts?

Thanks!
Vikram Ranade
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[ilugd] (OT) Nice comic strip on most of the FOSS top people

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice comic strip here:

http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eric-buys-an-ipod

Rather old but still enjoyable!!
-Sudhanwa
ps: nothing personal.. just fun!!

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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Vivek Kapoor]

On 07/23/2010 07:23 PM, Anil Seth  wrote:


I have used a simplistic approach by linking /var/cache/apt./archives
to a common NFS mounted directory. Only requirement is that no root
squash option is needed.

It does not even matter which system is updated first as all
subsequent updates find the package in the common cache.


Wouldn't it create difficulty/corruption if two machines are trying to 
download a package at the same time? I think the caching tools are 
designed to prevent that.


Regards
Vivek Kapoor
http://exain.com

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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Ashish SHUKLA]

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Vivek Kapoor writes:
> On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure  wrote:
>> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my requirement.
>> 
>> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network.
>> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be updated
>> and upgraded on daily basis.
>> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they go
>> online and check for new packages.

> From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download
> from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the
> task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the
> following

> apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx

> I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so
> I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a
> bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I
> moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some
> time now.

I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had some
issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box.

I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' (fedora/centos)
also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'.

References:
[1]  http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/

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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Anil Seth]

On 23 July 2010 18:57, Vivek Kapoor  wrote:
> On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure  wrote:
>>
>> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my requirement.
>>
>> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network.
>> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be updated
>> and upgraded on daily basis.
>> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they go
>> online and check for new packages.
>
> From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download from
> the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the task. It'll
> handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the following
>
> apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx
>
> I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so I
> moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a bit
> difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I moved onto
> apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some time now.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Regards
> Vivek Kapoor
> http://exain.com
>

I have used a simplistic approach by linking /var/cache/apt./archives
to a common NFS mounted directory. Only requirement is that no root
squash option is needed.

It does not even matter which system is updated first as all
subsequent updates find the package in the common cache.

Anil

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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Vivek Kapoor]

On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure  wrote:

Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my requirement.

There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network.
I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be updated
and upgraded on daily basis.
And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they go
online and check for new packages.


From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download 
from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the task. 
It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the following


apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx

I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so I 
moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a bit 
difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I moved 
onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some time now.


Hope it helps.

Regards
Vivek Kapoor
http://exain.com

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[ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu

[Sagar Belure]

Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my requirement.

There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network.
I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be updated
and upgraded on daily basis.
And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they go
online and check for new packages.

There is some vague idea in my mind to achieve this.
Check the 'master' systems /var/cache/apt/archives directory, list all deb
packages and install them accordingly.
Make one entry in source.list of each system to do the same.
But, I'm not sure how to achieve this.

Help is appreciable.

Thanks,
Sagar Belure
Security Analyst
Secfence Technologies
www.secfence.com
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