Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
> You probably mean to run "screen" in "ssh", i.e. screen on remote
> end? Otherwise with "screen to run your ssh in", instead of using
> GNOME terminal's pty, you're using screen's pty, with nothing
> changed at the network interface level.

Er, right!  Run screen on the ssh server, and login to it from any 
network.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Ashish SHUKLA
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Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) writes:
> On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Saurabh Sharma wrote:
>> I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
>> gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
>> along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a
>> descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections
>> there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN
>> when i try working on the server to which i was connected, the
>> server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke
>> and i have to make a new connection to the server in order to use it
>> in a new tab. The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after
>> some time, with a timeout message.

> If you want to continue using the same connection over LAN and WLAN, you 
> will have to either have the same IP address on both media, or use an 
> app like screen to run your ssh in.

You probably mean to run "screen" in "ssh", i.e. screen on remote end?
Otherwise with "screen to run your ssh in", instead of using GNOME terminal's
pty, you're using screen's pty, with nothing changed at the network interface
level.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
> > I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
> > gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
> > along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a
> > descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both
> > connections there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and
> > now on WLAN when i try working on the server to which i was
> > connected, the server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the
> > connection broke and i have to make a new connection to the server
> > in order to use it in a new tab. The old connection [the one over
> > LAN ] breaks after some time, with a timeout message.
> 
> Do you get the same IP address on both interfaces?

Actually, come to think of it even having the same IP address on both 
networks may not work.  Off the top of my head, it would depend on:

1. Whether your NAT provider sees LAN and WLAN packets coming over 
different interfaces or the same interface, and

2. Whether your NAT provider is interface-agnostic or not.

If your packets are coming over different interfaces, and the NAT box is 
storing the interface as part of the connection meta-data, then even 
having the same IP on different networks may not work.

Use screen, $deity's gift to system administrators all over the world!

Regards,

-- Raj
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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Saurabh Sharma wrote:
> I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
> gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
> along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a
> descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections
> there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN
> when i try working on the server to which i was connected, the
> server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke
> and i have to make a new connection to the server in order to use it
> in a new tab. The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after
> some time, with a timeout message.

If you want to continue using the same connection over LAN and WLAN, you 
will have to either have the same IP address on both media, or use an 
app like screen to run your ssh in.

Regards,

-- Raj
-- 
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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Saurabh Sharma wrote:

> Is there a way to overcome this situation.
>
> Situation :
> I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
> gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
> along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a descent
> 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections there as
> connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN when i try
> working on the server to which i was connected, the server is not
> responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke and i have to
> make a new connection to the server in order to use it in a new tab.
> The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after some time, with a
> timeout message.
>
> Configuration tried out :
> I have the settings done for keeping SSH session alive by adding entry
> 'ServerAliveInterval 30' to '/etc/ssh/ssh_config', but that fails to
> work in my case. It only supports in case e.g. i connect to a server
> over LAN [ have both LAN and WLAN active ]. I break the LAN
> connection, now over WLAN the server does NOT shows any response to my
> keystrokes [let it be ENTER key]. I connect back to the LAN, and it
> works, also all of my previous key strokes are responded to.
>
> Any help will be great.
>
> OS : Fedora 14
> OpenSSH_5.5p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0e-fips 6 Sep 2011
> NetworkManager Applet 0.8.4
>

try playing with the MTU settings my problem was solved by playing
with  it , try changing the device name accordingly

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:16:36:49:A5

  inet addr:XXX.XX.XXX.XX  Bcast:XXX.XX.XXX.XXX  Mask:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX

  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500   

An example command would be like:

# ifconfig eth0 mtu 1300

And, if this solves your problem, then set the appropriate MTU in your
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 as:

DEVICE=eth0
MTU=1250


-Satya
fossevents.in
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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Ashish SHUKLA
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Saurabh Sharma writes:
> Is there a way to overcome this situation.

> Situation :
> I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
> gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
> along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a descent
> 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections there as
> connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN when i try
> working on the server to which i was connected, the server is not
> responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke and i have to
> make a new connection to the server in order to use it in a new tab.
> The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after some time, with a
> timeout message.

> Configuration tried out :
> I have the settings done for keeping SSH session alive by adding entry
> 'ServerAliveInterval 30' to '/etc/ssh/ssh_config', but that fails to
> work in my case. It only supports in case e.g. i connect to a server
> over LAN [ have both LAN and WLAN active ]. I break the LAN
> connection, now over WLAN the server does NOT shows any response to my
> keystrokes [let it be ENTER key]. I connect back to the LAN, and it
> works, also all of my previous key strokes are responded to.

Do you get the same IP address on both interfaces?

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[ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Saurabh Sharma
Is there a way to overcome this situation.

Situation :
I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a descent
90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections there as
connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN when i try
working on the server to which i was connected, the server is not
responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke and i have to
make a new connection to the server in order to use it in a new tab.
The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after some time, with a
timeout message.

Configuration tried out :
I have the settings done for keeping SSH session alive by adding entry
'ServerAliveInterval 30' to '/etc/ssh/ssh_config', but that fails to
work in my case. It only supports in case e.g. i connect to a server
over LAN [ have both LAN and WLAN active ]. I break the LAN
connection, now over WLAN the server does NOT shows any response to my
keystrokes [let it be ENTER key]. I connect back to the LAN, and it
works, also all of my previous key strokes are responded to.

Any help will be great.

OS : Fedora 14
OpenSSH_5.5p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0e-fips 6 Sep 2011
NetworkManager Applet 0.8.4

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